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Title: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
Post by: lancaIV on May 05, 2019, 02:06:31 PM: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNeusilber (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNeusilber)

http://www.looker.de/de/neusilber-hotelsilber-250 (http://www.looker.de/de/neusilber-hotelsilber-250)
https://www.gemmel-metalle.de/neusilber/1.html (https://www.gemmel-metalle.de/neusilber/1.html)

fil de Maillechort/ Cuivre blanc

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3#)
If the " second hand" buying price is in the 3 Euros/Kg range how many Euros are to calculated for these in the application given length and mm-diameter coils material , new product ?
ONLY UP TO THE 14 VOLTS AND 16 AMPERES STAGE ! = 1 serie of 3 couples of 2 coils

The use interest : IR heater input saver
A. https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=20&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110518&CC=CN&NR=201836980U&KC=U# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=20&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110518&CC=CN&NR=201836980U&KC=U#)
B. https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11044 (https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11044) the heater concept

So 50 Euros for the 224 Watt" ready to use"- device( amplifier) I see as maximal investment value.

1000 Watt caloric output and 2 or 1 Watt electric power input would change heating management for the E. U.
"Nearly Zero Energy Building"- program beginning 2020 for the private sector.

250 Euros for 2 heater a 500 Watt caloric output and amplifier are for 40 square-meters = starter family house
in the EU-south countries sufficient , financial and energetical.( with 0° winter ambient )
Title: Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
Post by: ramset on May 05, 2019, 03:02:08 PM: Lanca//quote..............,,,,,
....1000 Watt caloric output and 2 or 1 Watt electric power input would change heating management for the E. U. end quote ///
I don't understand this from your posted files ? where ?? would be a holy grail

respectfully
Chet
Title: Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
Post by: lancaIV on May 05, 2019, 03:09:14 PM: Combined heater + amplifier
C. O. P. : 500 ( 2 Watt input)
1000 ( 1 Watt input)

IR heater. C. O. P. : 5 ( up to 10 , design and concept dependant)
amplifier. C. O. P. 1 serie : 100 ( up to 200 , rotative generator efficiency)

Amplifier : each " new silver"- coil represents an electro-magnet ( + capacitor and effect)

new silver : resistance ? Later : graphene , resistance ?

From " Nearly Zero.... " over " Net Zero.... " to " Zero ( Grid) heat energy electricity source" :
https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2528257A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2528257A1/en) as one of many solutions

reactive to active power transformer : member Ionlady delivered this found video :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ybzLpOypSDs&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ybzLpOypSDs&feature=youtu.be)

Minute 8:40 : paper/ zinc.....

Trilles, Menzer, Imris,..... Electromagnetic field compression : EMD generator
Title: Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
Post by: ramset on May 05, 2019, 06:11:01 PM: Lanca
I have asked for some help in this thread to fully understand this discussion
And the possibility for replications
thankyou for your contributions
Respectfully

Chet
Title: Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
Post by: lancaIV on May 05, 2019, 08:17:47 PM: Hello Chet ,
two months before I went to the next greater town and asked for nichrome and the seller their price !?After several electric shops visits only one offered nichrome in his program: 89 Euros/ Kg
Net-visit: alibaba , nichrome price-average 25 US$/Kg

Without including transport costs : up to 400% price difference per Kg

Nichrome coils concept
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A#)

About the " ' new silver' amplifier"- development :

I do nore actually deliver a plan neither a ready to use concept. !

The question was and is :

how many bucks have I to to calculate/spent in average for new produced " new silver" per Kg ?
If the scratch market pays 3,5 US$/Kg for used metal, new : 7,5 US$ or 10 US$ ? Less/more ?
Next : mm diameter coil, elements copper-nickel-zinc ratio

Before I begin a new development I do a component price list for the later KWh-R. O. I. -calculation.

An 1 KW Imris generator ( C. O. P. 10 ) is in the 600 Euros/700 US$ range ,for me too expensive .

Have a nice Sunday and a progressive week wishing
OCWL
Title: Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
Post by: lancaIV on July 03, 2019, 08:24:42 PM: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=pt&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fpplware.sapo.pt%2Finformacao%2Fgrafeno-e-capaz-de-gerar-energia-electrica%2F
There is a project for energy harvester based by graphene, calculated R. O. I. : 36 months
Title: Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
Post by: livonor on July 05, 2019, 08:04:19 AM: If you need a lot of steel. What ever the types.You can also contact Songshun steel. They will try there best to help you and provide the best steel for you. ;) ;) Contact: https://steelpurchase.com/about/