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lancaIV

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cheap material supply source ( new, used)
« on: May 05, 2019, 02:06:31 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNeusilber


http://www.looker.de/de/neusilber-hotelsilber-250
https://www.gemmel-metalle.de/neusilber/1.html

                                 fil de  Maillechort/ Cuivre blanc

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3#
If the " second hand" buying price is in the 3 Euros/Kg range how many Euros are to calculated for these in the application given length and mm-diameter coils material , new product ?
ONLY UP TO THE 14 VOLTS AND 16 AMPERES STAGE  ! = 1 serie of 3 couples of 2 coils



The use interest : IR heater input saver
A. https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=20&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110518&CC=CN&NR=201836980U&KC=U#
B. https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11044 the heater concept

So 50 Euros for the 224  Watt" ready to use"- device( amplifier) I see as maximal investment value.

1000 Watt caloric output and 2 or 1 Watt electric power input would change heating management for the E. U.
"Nearly Zero Energy Building"- program beginning 2020 for the private sector.

250 Euros for 2 heater a 500 Watt caloric output and amplifier are for 40 square-meters = starter family house
    in the EU-south countries sufficient , financial and energetical.( with 0° winter ambient )

ramset

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Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 03:02:08 PM »
Lanca//quote..............,,,,, 
  ....1000 Watt caloric output and 2 or 1 Watt electric power input would change heating management for the E. U. end quote ///
 I don't understand this from your posted files ? where ?? would be a holy grail

 respectfully
  Chet

lancaIV

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Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 03:09:14 PM »
                                           Combined heater + amplifier
                                            C. O. P. :   500 ( 2 Watt input)                                             
                                                           1000 ( 1 Watt input)                     

           
                      IR  heater.     C. O. P. :                    5 ( up to 10 , design and concept dependant)
                       amplifier.     C. O. P. 1 serie :   100 ( up to 200 , rotative generator efficiency)


           Amplifier : each " new silver"- coil represents an electro-magnet ( + capacitor and effect)

                                          new silver : resistance ? Later : graphene , resistance ?

         From " Nearly Zero.... " over " Net Zero....  " to " Zero ( Grid)  heat energy electricity source" :
        https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2528257A1/en  as one of many solutions

         reactive to active power transformer : member Ionlady delivered this found video :       

                        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ybzLpOypSDs&feature=youtu.be     

                                                  Minute 8:40 : paper/ zinc.....



        Trilles,  Menzer,  Imris,.....  Electromagnetic field compression : EMD generator

ramset

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Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2019, 06:11:01 PM »
Lanca
 I have asked for some help in this thread to fully understand this discussion
And the possibility for replications
thankyou for your contributions
Respectfully


Chet

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Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2019, 08:17:47 PM »
Hello Chet ,
two months before I went to the next greater town and asked for nichrome and the seller their price !?After several electric shops visits only one offered nichrome in his program: 89 Euros/ Kg
        Net-visit: alibaba , nichrome price-average 25 US$/Kg
     
        Without including transport costs : up to 400% price difference per Kg

                                 Nichrome coils concept
 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A#





         About the " ' new silver' amplifier"- development :

I do nore actually deliver a plan neither a ready to use concept. !

                                                 The question was and is :

how many bucks have I to to calculate/spent in average for new produced " new silver" per Kg  ?
If the scratch market pays 3,5 US$/Kg for used metal,  new : 7,5 US$ or 10 US$  ? Less/more  ?
Next : mm diameter coil,  elements copper-nickel-zinc ratio


Before I begin a new development I do a component price list for the later KWh-R. O. I. -calculation.


An 1 KW Imris generator ( C. O. P.  10 ) is in the 600 Euros/700 US$ range ,for me too expensive .

 
Have a nice Sunday and a progressive week wishing
OCWL

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Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2019, 08:24:42 PM »

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Re: cheap material supply source ( new, used)
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2019, 08:04:19 AM »
If you need a lot of steel. What ever the types.You can also contact Songshun steel. They will try there best to help you and provide the best steel for you. ;) ;)   Contact: https://steelpurchase.com/about/