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Author Topic: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?  (Read 14482 times)

tinu

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2019, 07:28:19 AM »
@Skywatcher

Some of the designs I have stumbled upon / invented, work.  They output substanceialy greater amounts of energy
than is input into them and cyclically. 

...

In short,  I have such a device / design. 

I have never self looped it.

Am I more afraid....  that it wont self loop, or that it will self loop ?
It will...
                   
@Floor,

A heat pump is doing exactly that. So is a solar panel, a wind turbine, a power plant and many more. None of those can be self looped...So, first thing first, one needs to be more explicit. Then you say it will self loop. I won't buy that based on your word alone.

 
@Eightman,

Back to the main question, I'd start publishing on-line my findings. Maybe not all findings but surely most of them, so as to be sure I cannot be latter deprived of certain privileges. We're talking here about a ground-breaking invention, a game-changer, the Holy Grail of actual science, an almost guaranteed Nobel-prize winner, right? So, I wouldn't worry much about the lack of future benefits once the proper recognition is ensured.
 
I wouldn't gift the product (if one would exist) because that could be too expensive and inefficient but maybe lend it as a black-box for experiments, OU measurements and confirmation, with a pretty hefty financial guarantee (escrow) in case the seals are broken (or the black-box' integrity is altered in any way).
 
Then there is development. It need to be financed, at least for the start.
I'd take the path of Dr. Poher - http://www.universons.com/, namely to use my own savings (as almost all members here do), then try to make partnership, find associates and/or develop proof of concept products or even small-scale commercial products to be sold at a premium. Continue to release info on public domain and keep on going.
 
Just my opinion. I surely don't have, at present time, the slightest hope for such an OU device. Maybe you and/or Floor can shed some light and make the hope reborn!


Best regards!

 

lancaIV

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2019, 10:12:21 AM »
The Nantenna is a 24/7 energy converting and electricity delivering device.
It is free energy !Is this a reazon to grant the inventor with an A.Nobel-Award  ?

                        Peace,Physics,Chemistry, Comedy( Literature)..... ?               ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                     positive R&D result example

2004: "Airpower" ,Israel Hirshberg, 24/7 commercialisation trial ,claim 3,4 US$cents/KWh
                              excluding high amortization tax ( 2004/2019 calculation)
                              excluding R&D R.O.I. margin -2/3 : 350 US$/KW selling price
                              energy commerce modernization : 1 US$cent/KWh electricity           
                              ~ 15 US$ barrel crude oil - future CO2 tax= 10 US$ barrel crude oil value
                             1 barrel/ barril/Fasz crude oil ~ theoretical 1600 KWh energy content
                           
                             aveurope.net( Russia) they built a similar energy conversion system
                   
                             prototype KW price : 350 US$ ( prototyping is ever more expensive than later mass production)
                             and calculated with 1 US$cent/KWh
                                             ------------------------------------------------------
                                   
                                              negative R&D result example

                               www.borderlands.de.    Technology of Free Energy Multiplier
                                                  f.e. Ucros ( Colombia) with C.O.P. 9 claim
                               only the 200 A relay costs > 350 US$ and working with batteries KWh > 10 US$ cents
                              total system electricity delivering price > 15 US$ cents/KWh

                                             -------------------------------------------------------
             The " free energy device" has to be cheap and relyable and maintenance- free/- less
             No batteries for storage but for the device start phase.
             No exotic parts , no rare elements
             ( 4 billion households x FE device material weight)/ industrial exploration capacity per annum
                                             -------------------------------------------------------

tinu

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2019, 10:22:26 AM »
The Nantenna is a 24/7 energy converting and electricity delivering device.It is free energy !Is this a reazon to grant the inventor with an A.Nobel-Award  ? Peace,Physics,Chemistry, Comedy( Literature)..... ?
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Yes, imho comedy prize is just fine for Nantenna! :)
Seriously speaking, it's an electricity collecting device. What's the new discovery besides that of Benjamin Franklin to deserve discussing the question of granting a prize?!

blueplanet

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2019, 01:20:25 PM »


If you ride an electric scooter in Vietnam or Cambodia, you will be outclassed or ridiculed. For exactly the same reason, if you post something important in this forum, you will definitely get rejected.


It is important to understand that some parts of the world are simply not ready to accept something unconventional.


Personally, I would publish all the important research findings in journals.





Suppose you actually built a free energy device.  What would you do with it?


You try to patent it but the US gov. classifies it as secret.


You approach academics and they refuse to even look at it.  Any paper you write about it is instantly denied as "a violation of physical law".


You try to give it away on line but individuals appear on line that deny that it works. You suspect this is deliberate.
 
You keep pushing it but end up mysteriously dead like Karen Silkwood. Or Seth Rich. Or Dr. Kelly.


How do you expose it to the world?

FatBird

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2019, 03:23:14 PM »
I think the smartest place would be on  YouTube.com
See below for an example:
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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2019, 06:48:51 PM »
Let me be blunt about something I fear:  active measures taken against any possibility of developing or exposing free energy on the internet.


Example: there is a certain popular conspiracy site ( filled with misspellings and hateful/racist comments) that some people have linked to Langely, Va.  ( hint, hint)
The hypothesis is that the website is used by an intelligence agency to "smoke out" troublemakers in US society to identify them by their comments.


In the military, this is similar to Special Forces tactics ( the SAS in Afghanistan) to attract insurgents to attack a seemingly weak position - and then wipe them out.  It isn't what it seems.


Another Example:  on a religious site about a cult, I offered a specific opinion about A Certain Attack Involving Aircraft On A Major US City - and........... was instantly inundated with a flood of contrary posts by persons I never heard of (on that site) and they actually steered the discussion into posting pictures of kittens !  This sort of thing happened again in regard to a post about "Cold Fusion".


I truly believe this Overunity site is full of good people who want a better future for us all.  However, i do wonder if it could be used by some very evil people for another purpose entirely.


And in case any of those people are reading this, i don't have a free energy device.  I'm just investigating.

profitis

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2019, 09:14:01 AM »
'How do you expose it to the world?'> u expose the world to it

Belfior

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2019, 09:44:52 AM »
Let me be blunt about something I fear:  active measures taken against any possibility of developing or exposing free energy on the internet.


Example: there is a certain popular conspiracy site ( filled with misspellings and hateful/racist comments) that some people have linked to Langely, Va.  ( hint, hint)
The hypothesis is that the website is used by an intelligence agency to "smoke out" troublemakers in US society to identify them by their comments.


In the military, this is similar to Special Forces tactics ( the SAS in Afghanistan) to attract insurgents to attack a seemingly weak position - and then wipe them out.  It isn't what it seems.


Another Example:  on a religious site about a cult, I offered a specific opinion about A Certain Attack Involving Aircraft On A Major US City - and........... was instantly inundated with a flood of contrary posts by persons I never heard of (on that site) and they actually steered the discussion into posting pictures of kittens !  This sort of thing happened again in regard to a post about "Cold Fusion".


I truly believe this Overunity site is full of good people who want a better future for us all.  However, i do wonder if it could be used by some very evil people for another purpose entirely.


And in case any of those people are reading this, i don't have a free energy device.  I'm just investigating.

Well you slowly migrate to a forum/group that is serious about this stuff. It might be a closed group, but you need this while developing. Then when you are done you post a YT video with a schematic and captions for Hindi and Chinese. You need to send information packages to universities and to parties that will at least read well prepared material.

We use free energy every day. That is the only way it can be hidden. In plain sight. Why is it hidden? Well 5 trillion dollars per year helps in world domination a lot! You might want to keep it that way. Also when you control money&energy and its usage, you control this planet. That is why the super powers do not sign any climate treaties and other nations cut down their production. Because CO2 has between very little and zero affect in climate, but everything to do with energy usage.

 

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2019, 07:42:18 AM »
That's easy just offer a $1,000,000 prize to anyone who can prove that it does not work. Every tom dick and harry will try to build it to win the prize.  ???

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2019, 09:27:57 AM »
Oh yes, post it here, the only way, and then no one will be interested. This forum is filled with things most of which have really nothing to do with overunity. Try to do a real research here, and it will be turned into nonsense, or replaced with nonsense, one may try to see how it happens.


Raycathode

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2019, 10:07:19 AM »
Free energy what about it, the one percent already has it!  If we look through history there are 'things' like the molded jigsaw puzzle walls that don't fit in this world since the great flood, that are all over the world, so there is proof a one-world government is must be self-destructive as they melted the polar ice caps at the end of the great ice age. If we don't get zero-point energy 'mucho pronto' the 1 percent will kill us all and themselves or do they have Mars to go to or the moon?

Wouldn't it be great if we had an alien device that could lock up 'guns' and other destructive weapons and made them FXXXXXXg useless?  ;D
and DYSFUNCTIONAL just like them!

ayeaye

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2019, 11:01:37 AM »
Oh yes, the free energy, there is no need for it, there is plenty of oil. But it's the human's natural desire to explore, we live for it. Something deeply human in it.

People, btw, not all are kind of governnment. It is like culture created, people go with it, work for it, people often with best intentions. Some others see it's ok, and use it for their benefit. It may be very difficult to differentiate.


Toolofcortex

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2019, 05:48:40 PM »
Money is a commodity, wich isnt special.

Can billionnaires or high millionnaires really get an OU device even if they tried? I bet not.

You are more special when you have this and they dont. They will simply take you over and everybody will be gods I dont like that.

They are not worthy is such technologies, it must be provided to them as chicken feed is.

sm0ky2

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2019, 05:55:51 PM »
There’s only one way to do it.
Release it free to everyone
In a way even a child could understand


So that anyone and everyone can build their own

Toolofcortex

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2019, 06:01:23 PM »
Too bad the inventors didnt think like that.

And they couldnt have been all stopped.