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Author Topic: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?  (Read 10067 times)

Offline Eighthman

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Suppose you actually built a free energy device.  What would you do with it?


You try to patent it but the US gov. classifies it as secret.


You approach academics and they refuse to even look at it.  Any paper you write about it is instantly denied as "a violation of physical law".


You try to give it away on line but individuals appear on line that deny that it works. You suspect this is deliberate.
 
You keep pushing it but end up mysteriously dead like Karen Silkwood. Or Seth Rich. Or Dr. Kelly.


How do you expose it to the world?

Offline forest

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2019, 07:59:39 AM »
Like all other great inventions. People must understand how it works and check themselves.

Offline Eighthman

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2019, 02:12:14 PM »
There was a reported incident in which a scientist refused to read evidence of "cold fusion" - saying that he wouldn't believe under any circumstance.


Would a person have to hand out working models to potential "believers"?

Offline forest

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2019, 07:55:51 PM »
Not a working models alone. Working practical models with tutorial and explanation ,safety precautions and normalization.  Make it like Arduino DYI. The same happened to radio in early years.

Offline skywatcher

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2019, 08:37:53 PM »
Open source is the only way which would work.
Patenting it will not work, because some big company would steal it anyway, if it works.
Building and selling devices would also work to some extent, but it works much better after it has been proven to work.

Offline Eighthman

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2019, 09:19:32 PM »
How about introducing it to a different culture?


Israelis?  (to wreck the whole Muslim/Arab world)


Iceland?  (because they are liberals with no fuel sources)


China?  (because they would like to get off oil and can defy the US)


Could it work out backwards - like Jesus reported miracles - "Don't tell anyone I did this" and the next thing you know it's all over the ancient world in Gospels. 

Offline conradelektro

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2019, 10:56:52 PM »
If I invented something extraordinary I would show a working version and let it be measured by independent experts. The rest is detail.


All the claims I have ever seen could never show something working and independently tested.


Greetings, Conrad

Offline Eighthman

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2019, 02:19:11 AM »
Actually, I recall a number of inventions that went to independent experts who offered favorable opinions............that were utterly ignored.
A couple cavitation devices, Depalma's Homopolar device, Werjefelt's Magnetic battery and so on.








Offline profitis

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2019, 09:25:54 AM »
'All the claims I have ever seen could never show
something working and independently tested.'> and thaire, dear wattson,is the prollem

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2019, 05:49:18 PM »
why do you bother taking on Satans flies in deep guv your opening a can of 'flea jumping maggots that can pierce your flesh with every disease going', forget that hair-brained idea and leave well alone. you answered your own question when you started
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Offline skywatcher

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2019, 10:57:13 PM »
Actually, I recall a number of inventions that went to independent experts who offered favorable opinions............that were utterly ignored.
A couple cavitation devices, Depalma's Homopolar device, Werjefelt's Magnetic battery and so on.
I'm not aware that any of these devices ever generated energy.
With 'generating energy' i mean that it's able to run in closed loop, without needing any (conventional) external energy input.

Offline Floor

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2019, 12:16:30 AM »
@Skywatcher

Some of the designs I have stumbled upon / invented, work.  They output substanceialy greater amounts of energy
than is input into them and cyclically. 

I have ask and still ask, my self, what were / are my motivations for embarking on this kind of quest.  The answer in many.

Experts frequently refused to look at the devices / drawings / explanations.  If any have looked they have not openly done so.
 
Others, expert or not, have demanded measurements, but With out giveing me any any indication that they in fact understood
the principles of the devices operations.  Neither have they been so clear in their demands as to specify what to and / or how to measure.

In short,  I have such a device / design. 

I have never self looped it.

Am I more afraid....  that it wont self loop, or that it will self loop ?
It will...

I have asked for and received, good counsel, as to what to do with it.  But found nothing I had not my self all ready considered.
My own, best advice to my self, has been to go ahead and self lop it, and not only that,  but also build a useful up scaled device
for my own energy needs.

Its principles / designs are all ready in the public domain and presented here at OU forum.

Your question /s ....
      Is /are, I think,  ones which the inventor / discoverer must answer for his / her self.   
                 best wishes
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Offline Eighthman

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2019, 12:55:11 AM »
Some cavitation devices appear to create more energy as heat than the input drive as electricity.  Can't loop that.


I think Werjefelt's device might have been more energy out than in but I think it was impractical to adjust and manage.


Homopolar generators may also be impractical because the voltages are so low and require complex slip ring type contacts.


Supposedly,  the Nelson Electron Trap was done by a real physicist but went nowhere.




Offline Eighthman

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2019, 12:58:34 AM »
I can only add that, if I found an electrical device that was overunity, I would modify it to only use and output strict DC current/voltage.


Absolutely no apparent/real power concerns or power factor bull sh*t.

Offline skywatcher

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Re: Seriously, How Would You Introduce A Real Free Energy Invention?
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2019, 01:28:02 AM »
Some of the designs I have stumbled upon / invented, work.  They output substanceialy greater amounts of energy
than is input into them and cyclically. 
If you know such designs which have been proven to work, please give me a hint where i can find them.   :)

So far i have only seen half-baked ideas (people who got 95% efficiency and they said with some little improvements it will go over 100% (which of course never happened)), wrong measurements of input/output power (and of course no closed loop operation) or all sorts of scam. Never seen anything which was able to operate without conventional power input, and successfully replicated by others.