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## Solid States Devices => Resonance Circuits and Systems => Topic started by: evostars on April 19, 2019, 03:55:08 PM

Title: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on April 19, 2019, 03:55:08 PM

It is based on a high side switched coil (L1) producing a negative back EMF impulse.
This impulse is injected into a series resonant bifilar pancake coil (L2).
The – BEMF impulse, replaces the sparkgap.

This L2 coil also has a positive DC offset, charged by the – back EMF.
The L2 coil equals the stout bars in the hairpin circuit.

L2 is loose coupled (4,5cm) to L3 (bigger bifilar pancake coil) that is parallel resonant. So both L2 and L3 resonate on the same frequency. L2 is series resonant (low impedance, so impulse can pass to positive of power suppy, giving the L2 a kick) and L3 is parallel resonant (high impedance).

L3 is parallel loaded with a 28W 230V light bulb, that lights up brightly.
The current and voltage of L3 are in phase. This is rather unique, as it is 4,5 cm distanced from the series resonant L2 (current and voltage 90 degrees out of phase). Radiant power is produced.

Here is the link to the video explaining it all. All info that is needed for replication is included.
https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8
(https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8)

Here is the link to the schematic:
https://imgur.com/a/sh1JOwE (https://imgur.com/a/sh1JOwE)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: benfr on April 24, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
This is worth good thoughts for you.
An good tool of learning about the said "tesla hairpin circuit", is the part from the Resonant Induction Coupling Kit "RICK" from Rick Friedrich.
This is a kit that shows how to produce overunity by 700 % in a couple of minutes. I may post about this later on this forum.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on April 24, 2019, 08:41:10 PM
That sounds interesting have you got a link so we can have a look, please

After looking at the said video, this one ?> https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=Rick+Friedrich+overunity+device#id=1&vid=9dded86be474335dd8c90584e4fe25ac&action=click

I think Don Smith published some info on a similar device. using the two MOSFETs RF heater circuit you can find any where on the internet you tube.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: benfr on April 25, 2019, 09:49:21 AM
hello,
the link is as follows :
No, no mosfets (I don't even know what a mosfet is !) , jusrt simple undangerous OU to multiply VOLTAGE, or AMPERAGE, or BOTH.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on April 25, 2019, 11:35:00 AM

It is based on a high side switched coil (L1) producing a negative back EMF impulse.
This impulse is injected into a series resonant bifilar pancake coil (L2).
The – BEMF impulse, replaces the sparkgap.

This L2 coil also has a positive DC offset, charged by the – back EMF.
The L2 coil equals the stout bars in the hairpin circuit.

L2 is loose coupled (4,5cm) to L3 (bigger bifilar pancake coil) that is parallel resonant. So both L2 and L3 resonate on the same frequency. L2 is series resonant (low impedance, so impulse can pass to positive of power suppy, giving the L2 a kick) and L3 is parallel resonant (high impedance).

L3 is parallel loaded with a 28W 230V light bulb, that lights up brightly.
The current and voltage of L3 are in phase. This is rather unique, as it is 4,5 cm distanced from the series resonant L2 (current and voltage 90 degrees out of phase). Radiant power is produced.

Here is the link to the video explaining it all. All info that is needed for replication is included.
https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8
(https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8)

Here is the link to the schematic:
https://imgur.com/a/sh1JOwE (https://imgur.com/a/sh1JOwE)

You should be ashamed, to promote, the information I shared with you, including details of the circuit, without giving the credits to who rightfully. Did you feel good to hear all those compliments, and did not even mention where you got the information?
Not even a single reference to me, you are a sad being.
It's people like you who do, I doubt about the real values of people.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on April 25, 2019, 01:45:07 PM

You should be ashamed, to promote, the information I shared with you, including details of the circuit, without giving the credits to who rightfully. Did you feel good to hear all those compliments, and did not even mention where you got the information?
Not even a single reference to me, you are a sad being.
It's people like you who do, I doubt about the real values of people.

Hmm! the way I see it is If information is shared to ask with the original  'design artist' if it's ok to republish or not and or credit, as some do others don't as one could get into disclosure and copyright problems with republishing other peoples work which can be self-destructive especially with the new laws.
AG
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: ramset on April 25, 2019, 02:17:39 PM
I think AG is saying he [EVO] thought Nelson could get in trouble or conflict ? so no mention at all ??

sometimes our language barrier makes it hard to understand even when we speak the same language ....
EVO is a teacher of young kids ,I would be very surprised if this was not some miscommunication.
Grateful for his sharing of Nelson's gift to the open source community .
//respectfully//Chet K
.................EdIT.........
I see AG comment below [we have read in the pages of this forum Nelson was limited in what he could share due to ??

sorry for assumptions on my part ..as I see EVO as a genuine good fellow that would not try to take credit   for the work of others ??
He only uses Master Evo tittle from his tittle with his kindergarten students ,not from arrogance in this field of study.

One way or the other its good to know Nelson shared this to a person who's heart is in the right place and   also a very good teacher and example ....
EDIT AGAIN,,,I see Nelson Reply below.....now I am confused ..........as well why remove from Russ's forum ?
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on April 25, 2019, 02:37:57 PM
Hmm! this reminds me of the UK woman on to her friend in the US somewhere in the conversation
woman in US asks what are you having for tea. UK woman says I'm just thawing out a couple of 'faggots'. ;D ;D
PS, now look up frozen faggots full of cholesterol deadly heart attack food.

where do I say that? come on Chet I can't disclose stuff like that mentioning any names.
I value both peoples input valuable assets. But as you say we need all the input we can get and i
thank them both we need it .

Amusement over, I too was looking for the EVO/IVO forum but found problems trying to look for updates, thoght it might have been, me, well that explains that part !
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on April 25, 2019, 02:59:02 PM
I think AG is saying he [EVO] thought Nelson could get in trouble or conflict ? so no mention at all ??

sometimes our language barrier makes it hard to understand even when we speak the same language ....
EVO is a teacher of young kids ,I would be very surprised if this was not some miscommunication.
Grateful for his sharing of Nelson's gift to the open source community .
//respectfully//Chet K

Hi Ramset,
The reality is that a few months ago, I agreed to share with Evo specific information about a certain circuit, with the condition of mentioning that the authorship of it, is me.
But it seems that he prefers, to collect the credits of something that was shared by me, as he was the author.
Worse than that, he removed from the open-source-energy.org forum all the information related to this topic.
I just want an public apology by him , and a replacement for the truth, nothing more .

Cheers
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on April 25, 2019, 03:36:39 PM
hello,
the link is as follows :
No, no MOSFETs (I don't even know what a MOSFET is !), just simple undangerous OU to multiply VOLTAGE, or AMPERAGE, or BOTH.
according to Nick Freidrich ex John Badini's assistant he says serial resonance does voltage and parallel does current or visa versa, I'm still a novice on this angle.

You might want to look him up on google  ???

PS who is master EVO is it a contact adhesive 'NO' is it lord 'Ivanhoe' the kid's TV hero from the 60s why NO it's Master IVO as in amps volts and ohms!  :o 8) ;D ;D
Title: mine yours ours
Post by: evostars on April 27, 2019, 11:29:25 AM
It has come to my attention, that I need to make a statement here, so I will.

In my Latest video (posted below) I presented a solid state tesla hairpin circuit.
I claimed it as my circuit.
What makes me claim it’s mine, is the fact I understand it into great detail, I explain it in great detail, and I show it working. It took me great effort to get it together.

I asked many people for help. There were many suggestions but they didn’t make any sense. So I finally decided to trust my own logic mind, and most of all, my intuitive heart.

I am proud to be the first to share all this information in great detail so you can replicate it, understand it and make it work yourself.
And by doing so, it becomes ours.

That gives this circuit its greatest potential. If we together research this radiant energy.

Nikola Tesla is the original inventor of the hairpin circuit. At that day and time, we did not have our modern technology. No diode’s no mosfets.
Just coils, capacitors and spark gaps and basically.
What a great accomplishment!
Tesla’s hairpin circuit is a learning tool for researching Radiant Energy, and he used this tool in his lectures. He explained it in great detail. But somehow. It was lost. Not understood. A mystery,
until now.

It holds the key to a revolution, and I invite you all to join it, by replicating the circuit, and research it, so we can build a better future together.

https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8 (https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8)
Title: Re: mine yours ours
Post by: nelsonrochaa on April 27, 2019, 01:44:38 PM
It has come to my attention, that I need to make a statement here, so I will.

In my Latest video (posted below) I presented a solid state tesla hairpin circuit.
I claimed it as my circuit.
What makes me claim it’s mine, is the fact I understand it into great detail, I explain it in great detail, and I show it working. It took me great effort to get it together.

I asked many people for help. There were many suggestions but they didn’t make any sense. So I finally decided to trust my own logic mind, and most of all, my intuitive heart.

I am proud to be the first to share all this information in great detail so you can replicate it, understand it and make it work yourself.
And by doing so, it becomes ours.

That gives this circuit its greatest potential. If we together research this radiant energy.

Nikola Tesla is the original inventor of the hairpin circuit. At that day and time, we did not have our modern technology. No diode’s no mosfets.
Just coils, capacitors and spark gaps and basically.
What a great accomplishment!
Tesla’s hairpin circuit is a learning tool for researching Radiant Energy, and he used this tool in his lectures. He explained it in great detail. But somehow. It was lost. Not understood. A mystery,
until now.

It holds the key to a revolution, and I invite you all to join it, by replicating the circuit, and research it, so we can build a better future together.

https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8 (https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8)

All your words do not erase the black cloud that hangs over you, the lie has a short leg.
Is this the reason you deleted all the data related to the forum open-source-energy.org circuit?
I have all e-mails you exchange with me and other persons on that fórum know’s de true .
But well go on , you show to be a person without character, and without principles otherwise you would not have acted this way.

You can have good intentions, but you used the worst methods to reach the end. Out of my mouth no more a word about anything related with this theme or the circuit .
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on April 27, 2019, 03:39:43 PM
peace be with you

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on April 27, 2019, 04:57:36 PM
Oh dear the 7th day of the week as well, who am I to comment here it's true, but i'm sorry  always becomes the hardest words to say. because we are all implicated, but Nelson thank you so much for your input and help, and you too Ivo who ever you are for explaining it all I doubt many of us could have figured any of it out with out both of your inputs. Thank you both.

AG
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Hoppy on April 27, 2019, 06:25:14 PM
Hi Evostars,
Have you attempted to measure and compare the energy levels in the BEMF spikes compared with input energy for the coupled and non-coupled L2 / L3 coils experiments?
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on April 27, 2019, 07:10:19 PM
peace be with you

Ivo , you need peace , not me , and after read the thread that you removed , i  have more sure about what i say .
What we agreed upon was that regardless of what happened, you would refer to the authorship of the information I made available to you, including the oscillator circuit , not the justification that you gave .

If I had lied to you, tell me the reason, why do you use almost all the information I have made available to you including some of your explanations given in your vídeos and the circuit diagram and their modus operandus ?

Just be honest and answer if you have a  such pure “heart “ like you say ;
You just can not.

Why do not you assume, that you relied on the information I gave you instead of inventing justifications that stain your image?

This is the reason why I registered all my vídeos in youtube as if it were a netbook, you can not make these videos disappear ,  ether all the information registered in e-mails and in this fórum  ... and and you accuse me of lying?

Well …. go forward  you are the STAR !! Enjoy you little moment of glory  and peace be with you.

I prefer to live a simple life with honor, without harming absolutely nobody to my benefit.

Nelson Rocha

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: itsu on April 27, 2019, 09:49:50 PM

It is based on a high side switched coil (L1) producing a negative back EMF impulse.
This impulse is injected into a series resonant bifilar pancake coil (L2).
The – BEMF impulse, replaces the sparkgap.

This L2 coil also has a positive DC offset, charged by the – back EMF.
The L2 coil equals the stout bars in the hairpin circuit.

L2 is loose coupled (4,5cm) to L3 (bigger bifilar pancake coil) that is parallel resonant. So both L2 and L3 resonate on the same frequency. L2 is series resonant (low impedance, so impulse can pass to positive of power suppy, giving the L2 a kick) and L3 is parallel resonant (high impedance).

L3 is parallel loaded with a 28W 230V light bulb, that lights up brightly.
The current and voltage of L3 are in phase. This is rather unique, as it is 4,5 cm distanced from the series resonant L2 (current and voltage 90 degrees out of phase). Radiant power is produced.

Here is the link to the video explaining it all. All info that is needed for replication is included.
https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8
(https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8)

Here is the link to the schematic:
https://imgur.com/a/sh1JOwE (https://imgur.com/a/sh1JOwE)

Evo,

i went as far as about 18 minutes into your video with a replication (L1 and L2 coils coupled) and have had
similar results / signals as you have shown.

The latest signal shown below in the screenshot is the voltage across the L2 coil with L1 and L2 coupled (5mm seperated).
The resonance sine wave is almost gone and the negative spike (-400V) is still there like shown by you.

The 1st picture shows the voltage / current on the drain of the MOSFET (16.7v @ 20mA very roughly).
The 2th picture shows the overall setup.

Need to build myself an L3 coil now and complete the circuit with the diodes etc.

Why does the L3 coil needs to be different as L1/L2?
I think its hard to get the same amount of copper (weight) with L3 compared to L1/L2 as you f.i. need to know the
weight of the isolation used.

Would it not be better to use a similar coil as L1/L2?  The up tranformation of the voltage should not make the difference.

Anyway, a tricky circuit as you have to watch out where to plug your probe grounds etc.

Itsu

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on April 28, 2019, 12:13:33 AM
Itsu what did you use as the Mos-Fet driver ? as the IXDN604 is listed as obsolete and no longer available
and also a low sided device. Confused or what.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on April 28, 2019, 05:05:19 AM
Itsu what did you use as the Mos-Fet driver ? as the IXDN604 is listed as obsolete and no longer available
and also a low sided device. Confused or what.
hi AlienGrey,
There is no need to stick with expensive was expensive IXDN604 Or ixdi614(inverted) which can handle up to 2Mhz and 20volts supply only for silicon carbide mosfet.
TC4452(Non inverted) or TC4451 is good enough on condition you are not going to need greater than 200khz or more than 16.5volts or 17voltssupply as tested.
Other older TC version will do as well.Found the hard way don't trust datasheet too much. :D
------------------------
Nelson Rocha ,credits to him.I now do believe BEMF recovery is indeed possible only after evo master post with very very good explanation.My frst current probe for scope is now on the way.(Aliexpress).
-----------------------------
Many people still living happily like nothing is happening to Earth climate our only true home.Food will become a primary valuable commodity in the near future.After bees is gone which insect does the pollination for us? Example coffee a fruit and etc.Imagine life without coffee. :D

We ever thought of complex circuit can be kick started by a mere 9volts battery. :)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: itsu on April 28, 2019, 11:03:53 AM
Itsu what did you use as the Mos-Fet driver ? as the IXDN604 is listed as obsolete and no longer available
and also a low sided device. Confused or what.
AG,

i use a IXDD614PI which i had.
Buy them from respectable electric component sellers as i had many useless fake/crap components via other channels.

Itsu
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on April 28, 2019, 12:34:46 PM
great work Itzu.
keep in mind the copper mass has to be equal, not the insulation. just weigh a part of  stripped coil lenght and compare it.

by making L3 larger, it steps up the voltage, and also the power. It does work with an equal coil, but it will give less power.

Didn't know the gate driver is obsolete, luckily there are other  available. the high side switching module (hsm) makes it possible to use a low side gate driver IC.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on April 28, 2019, 01:51:38 PM
Hi there, there are a lot of outlets for the speaker wire, (louder-scoper wire) ;D one thing to be aware of is what it says on the drum and the cable on it, I got a drum from Wicks store 1.5x2 with just a ruler I get it to 0.75 per copper inner dia. I also found in my junk pile while 'getting space back' some twin I got from Maplin 1.5x2 that has an inner of 1mm  ;D >:( ;D >:( Fun aint it!

I also recovered some old To3 MOSFETs 500v 24 amp IXTM24N50's think I might try one see how far I get.

There is also a 12 to 13v dc to dc 1000volt separation insulation, the TRACO POWER series (also from junk box), (but not tried yet 8)), I don't fancy using SigG's but can't find a cheap 50/50 true variable HQ output 45/55 just isn't cricket not one suggestion does it, (you can say that again)  ;D ;D I used some 8 pinUC3843 or 5 devices and 1/2 a CD4013 does the trick at 12volts on a breadboard. If anyone interested in above.
In Nelson's comments he mentions an oscillator circuit, out of sheer interest what did he use ?

Evostars  'drivers', whats the alternative I have gone through some of the RS listings but they aren't very informative and a manufacturers list might be in order.
Regards AG

PS Farnell won't entertain dealing with the loan approver !  ;D ;D
Remember with all penny pinching be aware it always ends up costing more  ;D

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on April 28, 2019, 02:34:55 PM
hi AlienGrey,
There is no need to stick with expensive was expensive IXDN604 Or ixdi614(inverted) which can handle up to 2Mhz and 20volts supply only for silicon carbide mosfet.
TC4452(Non inverted) or TC4451 is good enough on condition you are not going to need greater than 200khz or more than 16.5volts or 17voltssupply as tested.
Other older TC version will do as well.Found the hard way don't trust datasheet too much. :D
------------------------
Nelson Rocha ,credits to him.I now do believe BEMF recovery is indeed possible only after evo master post with very very good explanation.My frst current probe for scope is now on the way.(Aliexpress).
-----------------------------
Many people still living happily like nothing is happening to Earth climate our only true home.Food will become a primary valuable commodity in the near future.After bees is gone which insect does the pollination for us? Example coffee a fruit and etc.Imagine life without coffee. :D

We ever thought of complex circuit can be kick-started by a mere 9volts battery. :)

Doesn't coffee screw with your blood pressure and heart palpitations, but would be far better without Monsanto !!!!!!!!!

but thanks,

PS RS stocks the Silicon Carbide device. you can cascade them for higher voltage.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: itsu on April 28, 2019, 04:31:44 PM
great work Itzu.
keep in mind the copper mass has to be equal, not the insulation. just weigh a part of  stripped coil lenght and compare it.

by making L3 larger, it steps up the voltage, and also the power. It does work with an equal coil, but it will give less power.

Didn't know the gate driver is obsolete, luckily there are other  available. the high side switching module (hsm) makes it possible to use a low side gate driver IC.

Evo,

ok, i will plan to strip 1m of each and weigh them.

I don't think the driver is obsolete, at least at Mouser they are still in stock:

Itsu
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on April 28, 2019, 04:36:47 PM
Hi everyone,

I have just tried kapanadze coil just the primary winding for L1 and multi layer coil as L2(output for recovery).
I have just tried to pull a fast one since it's late here.

It's the first time I have got OVP (Over voltage protection indicator) on my power supply which is set at 12volts 0.7Amps.
The power supply display indicator will increase to 13.5volts depending on duty used as mentioned below.Used fast blocking diode UF5408 from + supply to circuit and got 12.3volts at Power supply display at around 0.49Amps with 5watt bulb.

230volts 5watt bulb connected between C3,C2 and L2,C1.

Peak voltage measured across C2 with bulb connected is around 530Vpp.

C1=10uf Wima capacitor 250VDC
C2=100nf 2kv
C3=0.47ufx2 in parallel config WIMA capacitor HV.
L1=319uH (Primary) L2=160uH (Multilayer coil)Frequency set at 60hz at 96% ...97% duty since i am using inverted version of mosfet driver IXDI614 or 3% or 4% non inverted.
I have run out of time to tune circuit with proper capacitor waiting for May 1st (Holiday) to continue experiment.
This is my finding for now.May need to swap wire of primary or multilayer coil.
I am using a isolated 15volts module to power the mosfet driver I/C.Using same 12volts from single output supply.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on April 28, 2019, 08:41:17 PM
hi AlienGrey,

TC4452(Non inverted) or TC4451 is good enough on condition you are not going to need greater than 200khz or more than 16.5volts or 17voltssupply as tested.
Other older TC version will do as well. Found the hard way don't trust datasheet too much. :D
------------------------
Nelson Rocha ,credits to him.I now do believe BEMF recovery is indeed possible only after evo master post with very very good explanation.My frst current probe for scope is now on the way.(Aliexpress).
-----------------------------
Many people still living happily like nothing is happening to Earth climate our only true home. Food will become a primary valuable commodity in the near future. After bees is gone which insect does the pollination for us? Example coffee a fruit and etc.Imagine life without coffee. :D

We ever thought of complex circuit can be kick-started by a mere 9volts battery. :)
Please be aware the TC4451 and the TC4451 are both Low Side according to datasheet however the TC4431 and /32 are high sided versions at 2mhz capability should you want to use them for any future use   :)  the problem with some suppliers have a 15 Eur p&p handling charge Euro 30 at some others, for those who want a shared stake  ;D ;D

I notice the MUR 1660 device is a 16A screw down with the requirement of an insulating kit some times they can cost more than the device  >:( they might be fast but have a huge voltage drop on my meter where a 3 or 5 amp UF4508's would possibly do while testing ;D
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on April 30, 2019, 07:52:10 PM
Please be aware the TC4451 and the TC4451 are both Low Side according to datasheet however the TC4431 and /32 are high sided versions at 2mhz capability should you want to use them for any future use   :)  the problem with some suppliers have a 15 Eur p&p handling charge Euro 30 at some others, for those who want a shared stake  ;D ;D

I notice the MUR 1660 device is a 16A screw down with the requirement of an insulating kit some times they can cost more than the device  >:( they might be fast but have a huge voltage drop on my meter where a 3 or 5 amp UF4508's would possibly do while testing ;D
hi AlienGrey,
If you take a look at the Master IVO -Youtube video expanded description -Bifilar coil build and high side switching explained
He did mention  2 separate dc supplies.But i took a logical short cut by using a isolated(1.5kv) buck/boost module and stick with single supply.

2 separate DC power supplies are used. A 12V battery (for switching the mosfet), is grounded on the source. the other DC power supply is connected to the drain and the coil. It powers the coil, and when the mosfet turns off, the coil produces the negative back EMF from the  magnetic field energy.

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Actual experiment with power supply and battery will be shown in couple of hours.I forgot to mention i did use multimeter at 10 Amps setting and merely toggle between A/C or dc mode.The dc mode matched the Variable power supply display .But the A/C Amps it was showing around 2.xx times higher at around 1.6Amps if i recall correctly.I think this was the thing that made my PS display OVP once exceeded 13.8volts at 12volts output setting.
Honestly it is a unusual circuit design that needs more research.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on May 01, 2019, 12:13:35 AM
hi AlienGrey,
If you take a look at the Master IVO -Youtube video expanded description -Bifilar coil build and high side switching explained
He did mention  2 separate dc supplies.But i took a logical short cut by using a isolated(1.5kv) buck/boost module and stick with single supply.

2 separate DC power supplies are used. A 12V battery (for switching the mosfet), is grounded on the source. the other DC power supply is connected to the drain and the coil. It powers the coil, and when the mosfet turns off, the coil produces the negative back EMF from the  magnetic field energy.

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Actual experiment with power supply and battery will be shown in couple of hours.I forgot to mention i did use multimeter at 10 Amps setting and merely toggle between A/C or dc mode.The dc mode matched the Variable power supply display .But the A/C Amps it was showing around 2.xx times higher at around 1.6Amps if i recall correctly.I think this was the thing that made my PS display OVP once exceeded 13.8volts at 12volts output setting.
Honestly it is a unusual circuit design that needs more research.
high and yes 'belt and bracers man me  ;D
seriously I used a UCC27321 and a 12v-> 13V DC-DC converter too
test rig board pot is 10k Cap is 472 rest are 103 and a 220 by the driver DC -DC is a Traco TRA  3-1213.

I don't have any of the 1.5 mm wire so I had to use a different cap to the 47n but it still runs ok for testing, I can get 250 volts easy
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on May 01, 2019, 08:36:09 AM
Hi,
I just posted a video of the Tesla harpin circuit to reveal the supply DC and A/C Amps produced by circuit which cause the variable power supply to display OVP.
Biggest blunder for today i accidently recorded the entire video in potrait mode.Had to rotate video but  compromise quality.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 01, 2019, 12:14:09 PM

Doesn't coffee screw with your blood pressure and heart palpitations, but would be far better without Monsanto !!!!!!!!!

but thanks,

PS RS stocks the Silicon Carbide device. you can cascade them for higher voltage.

AG  dont gate driver . jUST MAKE IT EASY!  That was the diagram shared in  in  Reply to EVO #1530 on: September 06, 2018, 02:25:58 PM »  https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg525481/#msg525481

You are free from test it . Well Ivo and now ALMOST PEOPLE SAY  ( IVO CIRCUIT )  but is incredible how noyone replicate it when i post in this forum . lol
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on May 01, 2019, 01:34:35 PM
AG  dont gate driver . jUST MAKE IT EASY!  That was the diagram shared in  in  Reply to EVO #1530 on: September 06, 2018, 02:25:58 PM »  https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg525481/#msg525481 (https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg525481/#msg525481)

You are free from test it . Well Ivo and now ALMOST PEOPLE SAY  ( IVO CIRCUIT )  but is incredible how noyone replicate it when i post in this forum . lol
hi nelsonrochaa,
You deserve the credit for sharing your research.
But IVO is a better demostrator than both of us.
I do suck talking to myself carrying a heavy phone with left hand for my youtube channel. ;D
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 01, 2019, 01:47:52 PM
hi nelsonrochaa,
You deserve the credit for sharing your research.
But IVO is a better demostrator than both of us.
I do suck talking to myself carrying a heavy phone with left hand for my youtube channel. ;D

I agree ! Naturally Ivo is better demonstrator , he live from donations made by persons based in what he show,  probably  you not , ether me. Big difference don't agree ?

But to achieve the ends, it should not be all, permissible, including usurpation and manipulation of information.
Just a thanks to my person by his part, or recognition was enough to me . Well we will see in future what he present about the circuit , if it goes further, with respect to the potential of the circuit I shared with him.

cheers

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: lancaIV on May 01, 2019, 02:44:18 PM
https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/1560/
#1566
Ola Nelson,  qual nome esta la escrito como inventor do isquema ?
honor whom honor belongs, evostar did his minimum of respect
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on May 01, 2019, 04:14:13 PM

I agree ! Naturally Ivo is better demonstrator , he live from donations made by persons based in what he show,  probably  you not , ether me. Big difference don't agree ?

But to achieve the ends, it should not be all, permissible, including usurpation and manipulation of information.
Just a thanks to my person by his part, or recognition was enough to me . Well we will see in future what he present about the circuit , if it goes further, with respect to the potential of the circuit I shared with him.

cheers

Hi nelsonrochaa,
I forgotten he was asking for donation in his video,base on your work. :-X
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But i wonder if people still believe in free energy to give donation.May sound like a scam to many people.
Few years ago someone offered to sponsor me money in dally or kapanadze forum.I rejected that person on the spot fearing back then my location will be known.

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on May 01, 2019, 04:48:41 PM
Yes, it's all a big problem for some,  but what we spend on components is getting a problem as many component suppliers want to sell huge multiples of the one component and on eBay, one component is a ridiculous price and you could get tracked that way too or huge handling charges per order.

Re Hi NelsonRochaa.

Many thanks, AG
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on May 03, 2019, 12:44:55 AM
Blew up gate driver shorting capacitors just put Bc327 and Bc337 in the 8pin socket and it works as a driver
Im not sure it's over unity though but it gives a lovely 500v waveform and will make a quarts bulb glow
just like a DC-DC does  ;D if you put energy into it  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: itsu on May 04, 2019, 10:39:27 AM
great work Itzu.
keep in mind the copper mass has to be equal, not the insulation. just weigh a part of  stripped coil lenght and compare it.

by making L3 larger, it steps up the voltage, and also the power. It does work with an equal coil, but it will give less power.

Didn't know the gate driver is obsolete, luckily there are other  available. the high side switching module (hsm) makes it possible to use a low side gate driver IC.

I made the below shown L3 coil (20m 2x 0.75mm speaker wire) , and then found out i screwed up on L1 and L2 as they also turned out to be made of 0.75mm wire.

As i not really believe in this "copper mass must be equal" thingy i just tried it.
The 25W load bulb just glowed somewhat and when tuning i managed to blow the both diodes (600V / 12A) and the MOSFET   :(

So is there something to this "copper mass" thingy or was i just way off frequency?

I will build new L1 and L2 coils with 2x 1.5mm wire and test with both lateron.

Itsu
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on May 04, 2019, 11:15:14 AM
Hi everyone,
I have posted my major breakthough for Nelson Rocha circuit   5 times out Amps verses input dc Amps .Out of courtesy i am using the original topic dedicated to Nelson Rocha -The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency since Nelson is the designer of this circuit.

https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg533995/#msg533995 (https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg533995/#msg533995)

I have posted in youtube sanjev21 few minutes ago.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on May 04, 2019, 01:45:30 PM
Hi everyone,
I have posted my major breakthough for Nelson Rocha circuit   5 times out Amps verses input dc Amps .Out of courtesy i am using the original topic dedicated to Nelson Rocha -The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency since Nelson is the designer of this circuit.

https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg533995/#msg533995 (https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg533995/#msg533995)

I have posted in youtube sanjev21 few minutes ago.
Hi Magpwr that's interesting, before all this IVO thing, 'NELSON' (a clever guy) was showing me a very small device without
the massive dinner plate oversised expensive pancake coils  8) but as fate would have it it wasn't meant to be.

What if you just wound the coils on ferrite cores or used and modified the Katcher circuit as in the old German scientist vid ?

PS watch out some of the caps can store some high power in them when switched off that are lethal!
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on May 04, 2019, 02:41:56 PM
Hi Magpwr that's interesting, before all this IVO thing, 'NELSON' (a clever guy) was showing me a very small device without
the massive dinner plate oversised expensive pancake coils  8) but as fate would have it it wasn't meant to be.

What if you just wound the coils on ferrite cores or used and modified the Katcher circuit as in the old German scientist vid ?

PS watch out some of the caps can store some high power in them when switched off that are lethal!
Hi AlienGrey,
Akula was using similar approach to pancake coil but using bifilar -2 wires in parallel but shorted at the top then start winding with 2 wires below on bobbin with E shape ferrite in middle(This will be similar to middle of the pancake coil).This was also shown in this somewhere in this forum few years ago.It was hard to make sense back then.

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: TinselKoala on May 05, 2019, 01:42:09 AM
Hi everyone,
I have posted my major breakthough for Nelson Rocha circuit   5 times out Amps verses input dc Amps .Out of courtesy i am using the original topic dedicated to Nelson Rocha -The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency since Nelson is the designer of this circuit.

https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg533995/#msg533995 (https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg533995/#msg533995)

I have posted in youtube sanjev21 few minutes ago.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on May 05, 2019, 05:51:56 AM
hi TinselKoala,
That was a good test carried out.
But you need to be aware using "Wirewound resistor" the maxium frequency is below 50khz.You were using 633khz.
Using low inductive resistor from Ohmite Thick film resistor as example will produce higher accuracy results.

https://www.mouser.com/Passive-Components/Resistors/Film-Resistors/Thick-Film-Resistors-Through-Hole/_/N-7gz43?P=1z0vjvqZ1z0vjvsZ1z0x7asZ1z0wljo&Keyword=ohmite&FS=True (https://www.mouser.com/Passive-Components/Resistors/Film-Resistors/Thick-Film-Resistors-Through-Hole/_/N-7gz43?P=1z0vjvqZ1z0vjvsZ1z0x7asZ1z0wljo&Keyword=ohmite&FS=True)
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I am just curious about the unconventional circuits.Science is like one thing lead to another in a progessive way.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Hoppy on May 05, 2019, 09:51:55 AM
It would be interesting to know whether Nelson had incorrectly assumed that the higher than input current reading measured in his circuit was indicating something special / unusual. Unfortunately, the misunderstanding on the technical working aspects of resonant circuits are still resulting in misleading statements, despite the efforts of guys like Tinsel and Vortex1 to correct these.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on May 05, 2019, 02:57:33 PM
It would be interesting to know whether Nelson had incorrectly assumed that the higher than input current reading measured in his circuit was indicating something special / unusual. Unfortunately, the misunderstanding on the technical working aspects of resonant circuits are still resulting in misleading statements, despite the efforts of guys like Tinsel and Vortex1 to correct these.
Hoppy My dear friend, everything in our existence is energy in one way or another no matter what you have been programmed to believe.
The so-called effect in truth is described by J Dove on his youtube site.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCJU9_yiN-A
Click on the 3 replies, I suggest you read it and biggest it.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Grumage on May 05, 2019, 03:29:06 PM

I suggest you read it and biggest it.

:o
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on May 05, 2019, 03:36:26 PM
Hoppy My dear friend, everything in our existence is energy in one way or another no matter what you have been programmed to believe.
The so-called effect in truth is described by J Dove on his youtube site.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCJU9_yiN-A
Click on the 3 replies, I suggest you read it and diggest it.
try again!
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 09, 2019, 07:39:10 PM
It would be interesting to know whether Nelson had incorrectly assumed that the higher than input current reading measured in his circuit was indicating something special / unusual. Unfortunately, the misunderstanding on the technical working aspects of resonant circuits are still resulting in misleading statements, despite the efforts of guys like Tinsel and Vortex1 to correct these.

Hi Everyone ,

hi Hoppy :) . I did not assume nothing because even talk yet :) a single word about the circuit  ; but answering your question about if i incorrectly assumed that the higher than input current reading measured in his circuit was indicating something special ; no i did not assume nothing in particular but only what my eyes see during the tests i made, when i test that oscillator , i could have a lot of pleasure test it .

On this video is clear to see https://youtu.be/8ytg_B9Vs60?t=36  that even with a analogue amp meter error could happen  in measurements .
The loads used in particularly on this video was a 220v 120w halogen , 60w halogen 12v , 50w 220v halogen bulb  only resistive loads . To people that like test resonant circuits is a good one.

About the efforts of Tinsel and Vortex i really don't understand what is the point ? . ? .?    are you referring to what ? I'm confuse with the sentence , can you explain better ???

Thanks
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Hoppy on May 09, 2019, 08:03:06 PM
Thanks for your reply Nelson. Yes, video demonstrations of resonant circuits can be very OU convincing to those unintiated in resonance theory.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on May 09, 2019, 09:14:35 PM
Thanks for your reply Nelson. Yes, video demonstrations of resonant circuits can be very OU convincing to those unintiated in resonance theory.
Hoppy your only half right, I hope color is still praying for you, you might get there in the end.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 09, 2019, 09:44:02 PM
Thanks for your reply Nelson. Yes, video demonstrations of resonant circuits can be very OU convincing to those unintiated in resonance theory.

Hi Hoppy , for sure that not happen on this situation , no one claim anything or try convincing anyone  of anything .
So no need call the "cops" :)   :-* .

cheers
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Hoppy on May 09, 2019, 10:02:17 PM
Hi Hoppy , for sure that not happen on this situation , no one claim anything or try convincing anyone  of anything .
So no need call the "cops" :)   :-* .

cheers
I assume you are referring to the very short video you posted earlier. If so, what were you demonstrating?
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 09, 2019, 10:13:43 PM
I assume you are referring to the very short video you posted earlier. If so, what were you demonstrating?
Hoppy , i'm not try demonstrating nothing , i just record the videos to register nothing more , but  in the video posted earlier i show Even with analog meter error in measurements could happen . See current in in power source and current in output in the analog amp meter .

cheers
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Hoppy on May 09, 2019, 11:03:05 PM
Hoppy , i'm not try demonstrating nothing , i just record the videos to register nothing more , but  in the video posted earlier i show Even with analog meter error in measurements could happen . See current in in power source and current in output in the analog amp meter .

cheers
OK, thanks Nelson.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on May 09, 2019, 11:58:57 PM
I wonder if James Randi is into the Zero point thing as an unintiated?  ;D ;D
but that might be a contradiction when all the facts aren't known as they are 'unintiated'?

Hmm, I wonder what that could be ?unintiated?   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on May 11, 2019, 03:47:47 AM
Anyway, have a look at this one this is one of Nelson's you just got to admire.
I have tried to copy it as close to the original as I can, the voltage is high and
rises real fast as soon as I switch on, I added an LED and high omic resister as
it's lethal!
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on May 12, 2019, 12:32:14 PM
The Radiant solid state circuit I shared on 19 April 2019 has more possibilities.
It can also be used for Health benefits. Nikola Tesla described it already in 1898 in Buffalo. A link to this document can be found in the video description.
When the Load (28W lamp) is removed from the L3 coil, the energy  keeps surrounding the L3 coil in its electric fields. You can use this Radiant energy for health benefits.

https://youtu.be/5uaNpeYKO74 (https://youtu.be/5uaNpeYKO74)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: benfr on May 13, 2019, 02:34:21 PM
excellent stuff , thank you for sharing !
It reminds me of Robert Beck's Magnetic pulser design; which has some similarities.
Great Geniuses put up great health stuff that is God-Offered.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Hoppy on May 13, 2019, 06:39:28 PM
One of the original relay free energy videos.  ;) :)

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: ramset on May 13, 2019, 08:07:32 PM
Sigh ...//Imhotep and his ...... "Glorious Shiva"......[I think that is what he use to call her ??]
how time flies bye  ....wonder how that all worked out in the end ??

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on May 14, 2019, 02:07:30 PM
One of the original relay free energy videos.  ;) :)

hi Hoppy,
Thanks for the link.It's interesting  how low current consumption 30mA can produce high voltage spikes.Low energy cost.

Solid-state does have some bad points "switching lost" besides some good points.

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I have posted key aspects of Nelson-Dove circuit on his breadboard in full details.I think it is officially deleted from his channel? Why?
Can someone assist to draw up this simple circuit As Attached.Thanks.

Should be easy to understand.I need to allocate remaining precious time for other FE circuit investigation before weekend approach.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Kator01 on May 17, 2019, 02:09:10 AM
well,
the voltage certainly depends on the relay-winding-ratio. I could not find any detailed specification for the resistance of solenoid of YH185B-Relais
They vary starting with 90 Ohm to 1100 Ohm.Maybe some member here can help with this information ?
By the way very useful analysis of the hairpin-circuit presented by Fred B

Part 1
Part 2
Mike

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: gyulasun on May 17, 2019, 12:12:11 PM
Hi Kator01,

Here is a data sheet for the YH185 relay series from its manufacturer:

The YH185B relay type has a 90 Ohm coil resistance, for operating voltage at 12 V.

Gyula
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Grumage on May 17, 2019, 01:22:12 PM
Hi Kator01,

Here is a data sheet for the YH185 relay series from its manufacturer:

The YH185B relay type has a 90 Ohm coil resistance, for operating voltage at 12 V.

Gyula

Hi Gyula.

As an additional note most of the automotive relays seem to have a resistor placed in parallel with the operating coil.

This is based upon my observations, having taken quite a few apart over the years.  :)

Cheers Graham.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: gyulasun on May 17, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
Hi Graham,

Thanks for the additional information and yes (a resistor or a diode or a diode with resistor or none of them) may be found paralelled with the relay coil and this is mentioned in the data sheet at the ordering code explanation,  see attachment.

Cheers
Gyula
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Kator01 on May 18, 2019, 01:49:43 AM
Hey Gyula,

thank you very much.

@grumage, thanks, did not know this.Maybe they put in the resistor to avoid excessive sparking which is what we actually want for this application

Mike
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: gyulasun on May 18, 2019, 08:27:41 PM
Hi Mike,
Well, I think the resistor is connected to the coil and not to the relay closing or opening contacts.
Either in paralell with the coil or in series,  I think mainly in paralell, especially when a diode is used, this latter may be in series with the resistor and this series R - D combination would go in paralell with the coil, to tame the spikes at relay coil switch-offs.

Gyula
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 21, 2019, 11:26:12 AM
One of the original relay free energy videos.  ;) :)

Hi hoppy ,
I can certainly say that they are not the same or similar circuits, and that they both demonstrate absolutely different things, and of course no free energy circuit like you title them.
The circuit i show some years ago , able to show more than Voltage in output .

Cheers
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: nelsonrochaa on May 21, 2019, 11:38:20 AM
The Radiant solid state circuit I shared on 19 April 2019 has more possibilities.
It can also be used for Health benefits. Nikola Tesla described it already in 1898 in Buffalo. A link to this document can be found in the video description.
When the Load (28W lamp) is removed from the L3 coil, the energy  keeps surrounding the L3 coil in its electric fields. You can use this Radiant energy for health benefits.

https://youtu.be/5uaNpeYKO74 (https://youtu.be/5uaNpeYKO74)

Hi
I would like to leave an opinion on this subject as it is concerned with public health.
One of the things that I warned Master Ivo when I shared details of the circuit for him to recreate was that he should use an electrostatic wristband due to health problems associated with the circuit in question.
During the process of tuning the circuit, people are exposed to several frequencies that are guaranteed in no way good for health.
I myself, and some people who tested the circuit became sick and exhausted during the time they used the circuit.Radiant energy is only beneficial to health, if the right freq is chosen, something that I am sure is not known to the general public.
It is completely unwise to give this suggestion knowing that there are associated health problems if the right choices are not made.
This is only a Warning .
Cheers

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Hoppy on May 21, 2019, 12:19:55 PM

Hi hoppy ,
I can certainly say that they are not the same or similar circuits, and that they both demonstrate absolutely different things, and of course no free energy circuit like you title them.
The circuit i show some years ago , able to show more than Voltage in output .

Cheers
Agreed, clearly not FE IMO, thus the winking emoji at the end. However, I'm sure that some still believe that the HV 'radiant energy' charged cap stores some FE, thus why the vibrating relay cap charging concept videos found a home on FE forums. Thanks for posting a warning of the potential hazard to health in experimenting with HF / HV devices.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on May 21, 2019, 02:09:58 PM

Hi
I would like to leave an opinion on this subject as it is concerned with public health.
One of the things that I warned Master Ivo when I shared details of the circuit for him to recreate was that he should use an electrostatic wristband due to health problems associated with the circuit in question.
During the process of tuning the circuit, people are exposed to several frequencies that are guaranteed in no way good for health.
I myself, and some people who tested the circuit became sick and exhausted during the time they used the circuit.Radiant energy is only beneficial to health, if the right freq is chosen, something that I am sure is not known to the general public.
It is completely unwise to give this suggestion knowing that there are associated health problems if the right choices are not made.
This is only a Warning .
Cheers
hi nelsonrochaa,
Thanks for your health tips.I did felt strange/weak after i worked with nanosecond generator 1kv <10ns pulse posted in my youtube few years ago.

Although i was aware at that time high voltage nanosecond pulse can be used for sterilization for drinks to rid of bacteria and etc.
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In the meantime i have attempt to reverse engineer and tried to derive a circuit schematic from this video of yours.Not tested at this point since i need time to find a used microwave transformer.Hope you don't mind since you mentioned it is not FE.

All caps value are estimates only.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on May 23, 2019, 10:51:27 AM
small changes
function if c1 and c2 reversed gives more power.
adding C5 over L1 makes it possible to tune the impulse (back emf inductive spike) duration. By makimg the duration slightly longer, the voltage drops a bit, and more power can be fed to the cicuit (limited by the avalanche body diode of the mosfet). L2 is reverse connected (see dot)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on May 25, 2019, 03:55:52 PM
Hi everyone,

I am trying to reverse engineer Nelson Rocha circuit and reveal rarely seen  radiant interrupted waveform which is growing in amplitude as shown in scope which is running on 1 npn transistor only.Hence i don't take any credit since i was inspired by his video.

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on February 25, 2020, 01:40:46 AM
just a small note, Im still researching.
I found the radiant circuit, is probably just one half of the system.
I made a compliment circuit, that produces positive impulses and a negative voltage offset,
by switching the L1 coil at the low side.

So I now have 2 circuits, with 2 L2 coils.
These 2 L2 coils, both have a DC offset.
one L2 is positive , the other is negative.

This way, the L2 coils, act as capacitor plates, when coupled together.
The dielectric field setup up, is then impulsed, positive and negative alternating, 180 degrees separated in phase.
This opens up a whole new set of possibilities.

I'll keep working. and when vital info is gained, I will share again on my youtube channel,
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Turbo on February 27, 2020, 03:18:12 PM
Hi this hairpin is a spark gap excited transmission line.
It has nodes and anti nodes and half and quarter wavelengths etc.
More can be seen here: https://youtu.be/_Vhs-ZRN_i4?t=1642 (https://youtu.be/_Vhs-ZRN_i4?t=1642)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Raycathode on February 27, 2020, 04:06:44 PM
Hi this hairpin is a spark gap excited transmission line.
It has nodes and anti nodes and half and quarter wavelengths etc.
More can be seen here: https://youtu.be/_Vhs-ZRN_i4?t=1642 (https://youtu.be/_Vhs-ZRN_i4?t=1642)

Brilliant thanks for sharing

Would you hapen to have a link for the Minicircuits sweep generator circuit.
Raymondo
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Turbo on February 27, 2020, 04:48:32 PM
That was before the big Arduino and Raspberry boom and those are the new sweep gens all you need is the desired modules and a few lines of code.
The function calls are made easy with 3 parameters start frequency, stop frequency, sweep duration.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: hartiberlin on June 02, 2020, 10:34:20 PM
Hi All,a friend of mine has started to build the Master Ivo Radiant Power circuit
and I visited him yeasterday and we worked a few hours on it to fix some
connection errors and started to tune it and set it up..
I took a short video at the end of the day:

Read the video description and stay tuned !
Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: hartiberlin on June 18, 2020, 12:08:24 AM

Here are the 2 circuit diagrams we have used.Attached to this post are 3 PDF Files. and PNG of the Gatedriver IC...

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: hartiberlin on June 18, 2020, 12:25:18 AM
I answered a few more questions over here, below the last video:

in the comment section.Hope it helps.
Regards, Stefan
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: magpwr on June 19, 2020, 05:04:25 PM
I answered a few more questions over here, below the last video:

in the comment section.Hope it helps.
Regards, Stefan
hi,
Adding a 100v or higher rated diode from positive side of variable power supply then to capacitor  will help resolve the current/voltage display reading issue at power supply side besides the tuning.
D3 is not recommended to connect directly at output of IXDN604.I think i done it before would notice Diode getting hot by touching.
Title: 2 bifilar pancake coils, acting as plates of a capacitor
Post by: evostars on August 09, 2020, 01:23:47 AM
two bifilar pancake coils, can act together as a capacitor.

each pancake coil, is one plate of the same capacitor. you can even put a dielectric medium between them, like place them in a refined sunflower oil bath.

if you give one plate/coil a positive dc offset, and the other plate/coil a negative dc offset, this would charge the capacitor made out of 2 coils that act as plates.

Because the plates are coils, we can make the coils series resonant (low impedance).
Assume both coil/plates, are series resonant at the same frequency and in phase.
then the voltage difference between them would stay the same.

due to their low impedance we can feed the coils impulses.
a negative impulse for the positive DC plate/coil at the first half of the cycle
a positive impulse for the negative DC plate/coil at the second half of the cycle (period)
see picture attached

What these impulses do, is collapse the DC dielectric field generated between the 2 coils.
Creating an implosion. a vacuum. to be filled...

This resembles the discharge of the capacitor.
but only very shortly during the time of the (alternating ) impulses.

then we can put a third coil in the middle of this DC field. inside the capacitor.

one half of this circuit is already out there. the other half of this circuit is a mirror of this circuit, producing the negative dc offset, and the positive impulses.
working together, each half of the total circuit is driven by an out of phase square wave from a TTL A and B output.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on August 09, 2020, 09:59:13 AM
to make it complete, here are the circuits for the coil capacitor

L1/L2 close coupled
L4/L5 close coupled.
L3 loose coupled to L2 and L4 which are series resonant.
L3 is parallel resonant, picture doesnt show parallel capacitor.
A and V are amp and voltage meter
IC is isolated gated driver.

all coils are pancake bifilar tesla coils

both circuits work together as one. meaning in phase.
isolated gate driver is driven by TTL (transistor transistor logic) A and B, of a single square wave generator.
(On the circuit explanation I wrote tll=square wave, this should be ttl)
.thus the 2 circuits recieve an out of phase square wave, making L2 and L4 in phase series resonant.

Tuning is crucial.

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: seychelles on August 09, 2020, 11:16:50 AM
JUST RESIZING.
Title: symetrical voltage supply with center earth ground
Post by: evostars on August 10, 2020, 10:25:03 AM
v+ of the 2020 circuit and v- of the 2019 should both be tied to earth ground.
this is for the impulses to work into earth ground. it seems they really need earth ground and not a large capacitor as ground.

this means the low side switch circuit cant be driven with a buck boost gate driver, as that ties earth ground to v-

both gate drivers need to be isolated. easiest, is by 2x  battery (12v+6v in series, one for each 20V of the gate driver IC)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on August 13, 2020, 07:30:11 PM
L2 and L4 are both series resonant, they need to be tuned to the second resonant frequency (longitudinal).
so if the first (lowest) resonant frequency is 72kC (kilo cycles, hertz was wrong). and the second is 115kC than they should both be tuned to 115kC. this gives a stronger output.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on September 04, 2020, 10:53:37 AM
found this in the 1919 true wireless article of Tesla. It shows the same circuit I use (solid state).
Left is a auto oscilating relais, right is the primary in series with the capacitor (bottom) these are series resonant.
inductive spike from relais enters series resonant primary,  secondary is left out, sits inside primary.

Tesla's 1897 lecture explaines the same device.

this can be run from ac also, which will give alternating polarity impulses.

This means a single L1 coil (radiant power april 2019 circuit)  can do the same, when the circuit is powered by AC (with adaptions)
@@@@@@
I played enough with this dual primary 5 coil,
it made me realise there are 2 kimds of resonance TEM and LMD
next step is amplification of the LMD resonance, by makimg use of Tesla's Extra Coil (colorado springs notes)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: seychelles on September 04, 2020, 06:37:16 PM
JUST RESIZING.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on September 05, 2020, 01:12:56 PM
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on September 13, 2020, 10:07:28 PM
Based on Nikola Tesla's Extra coil.
No dc offset needed
no negative impulse needed
L4 is the extra coil, and is still under review
bifilar pancake coils. equal copper mass
L4 has less capacity less inductance, bigger diameter wire leas windings than L3.
this steps it up

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: synchro1 on September 14, 2020, 11:58:40 AM
@Evostars,

Illuminating underwater bulbs with your circuit may add safety to pool lighting, right? You could package and market a successful product.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: sollaris1989 on September 15, 2020, 10:37:50 PM
Hello guys , Hallo @hartiberlin .
Thank you for your good work.
I am following you guys,and I have some questions about the  IXDN604 IC.
I can also use my Signal Generator direct to the Gate of the power Mosfet, but as If I understood corectly from @Evostar aka IVo on youtube, if you apply Voltage and Amps to the gate of the Mosfet,it will switch very very fast (ns range)
and the mosfet will not heat that much.
What component / action decides if the output of the ic is 0.3 A or 4 Amps for example?
the IC above has a maximum output of 4 A......how do we get there..how we do not get there?

Also I have seen at you guys Gate drivers IC;s with power output of 10 Amps....
From a realistic point of view....how much Power does a POWER Mosfet needs at the gate to fully swich ON?

Also a see a resistor and a diode in paralel betwwen the IC and the gate of the Mosfet...What is the purpose of those 2 components.

Thanks and have a nice day guys !
Alles Gute aus Saarland.

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on September 18, 2020, 09:07:45 PM
gate resistor restricts amount of current going into the gate. ohms law applies.
also resistance dampens the ringing of the gate circuit (best to keep the loop small by placing gate IC close to gate. and resistance close to gate.

The discharge of the gate goes the other direction and the diode bypasses the resistance, making turn off even faster.

using external power wont work  as it is referenced to earth ground.

gate driver should be referenced to source. that is why battery is used. battery floats, referenced to source.

But I found out al this isnt needed.
positive impulses also work. (low side switch, which dos not need a hsm/isolated gate driver)

And the whole DC offset is completely unnecessary.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on September 28, 2020, 12:25:24 PM
after extensive testing,
I came to the following conclusions:

DC offset, is totally useless. I will not use it anymore, and this also makes it safer to work.

Positive impulse works just as good (even better) as a negative impulse.
This means, you can use a low side switch, with out isolated gate driver (easier to build)
and get the same results

As both polarity impulses work, I will use both.
This is done in a half bridge circuit.
A symmetric power supply is used (earth ground in the middle of positive and negative voltage supply)
Mosfets won't work, as they have body diodes.
So I will need to find the fastest IGBT's (slower turn off than mosfet, due to tail)
that also can withstand high voltages.
But it must be IGBT's Without body diodes. This makes them vulnerable.
So I will protect them with TVS diodes (2 tvs diodes in series if needed).

Again will need 2 isolated gate drivers, this time with negative gate voltage possibility.

L1 produces alternating positive and negative impulses.
L2 is series resonant with C and provides a low impedance path to ground for the impulses of L1

positive impulse on L2 positive voltage maximum
negative impulse on L2 negative voltage maximum
So one period (sine wave) of L2 will have 2 impulses.

L2 is the Primary for L3 (not drawn)
L1 and L2 are close coupled, pancake coils.
L2 is bifilar

Please reply or PM if you know a proper IGBT that will work around 40-80 KHz
and can withstand 1200V, with fast turn off time and no body diode.
This is essential for impulse generation
Post by: evostars on October 19, 2020, 12:49:00 PM
Stopped using IGBT's, do not believe they are useful. due to their slow turnoff time.

found a way to beat the body diode problem of the mosfet half bridge. it works now.
testing it. I put a diode above the high side mosfet, and below the low side mosfet, to block the impulses that pass through the body diodes. I now have both polarity impulses on both polarity voltage maximums of the series resonant primary coil.

Also designed a pcb for dual isolated gate drive, for the symmetric powered half bridge. Testing that will commence soon. If it is worthy, I will share. It has no pulse transformer, and no battery. operated by isolated DC DC converter

It's getting pretty complicated. Learned so much. At the same time with all the insight it becomes simple.
The impulses, amplify the current of the series resonant coil. When close coupled to L1, it creates a feedback loop.

Yellow= L2 impulsed series resonant voltage (primary
Green= L2 series resonant current (primary)
Orange= L3 secondary voltage
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: AlienGrey on October 20, 2020, 10:43:33 PM
Hi Evostars I must say you have come a long way with your development,
I have sort of being following you work, I under stand you have got the build down to 2 pancake coils, are they
built the same as the originals ?
I notice you have 2 custom boards with BNC output socket, will they be available and if so where can they be obtained ?
Also what sort of value and voltage level are the Wima capacitors c1, c2, and c3. ? any further comment would be useful to us all.
and is there any where local they can be obtained from ?

Regards AG
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on October 20, 2020, 10:53:12 PM
C1=C3=1Uf they provide the fast current needed to run it. wima mkp10 or fkp1 or something like that but not elco (to slow)
voltage rating for power supply, 100Vdc

C2 is the series resonant tuning capacitor. it depends on which frequency you use. I have it from 35nF to 61nF
Wima fkp1 2000Vdc series. for L2
caps can be bought at reichelt.de

I actually use 4 coils.
L2 is the primary impulsed series resonant coil

L3 is the secondary coil, loose coupled to L2.
L3 can be untuned, or parallel tuned.

L4 generates output (depending on tuning)
L4 is close coupled to L3. L4 is not resonant
L4 can be rectified into dc cap for resistive load power measurements

L1 and L2 are also close coupled they are a feedback loop.

Im still playing with it. not fine tuned it fully yet, as it also depends on L2 L3 coupling (distance)

today I tested the halfbridge isolated gate driver pcb, without batteries or pulse transformers, and it works!

If the half bridge circuit has been tested, it will be made available

you will also need a symmetrical power supply, I use a 2 channel series connected powersupply for that.

and a dual signal generator, for out of phase square waves 49% duty cycle.

Oh and use the Mur8100e diodes, not the others they burn out,( due to soft recovery problems ) stth1210 are bad

still testing... still learning,
Kind regards
Apprentice Ivo
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on October 22, 2020, 08:34:21 PM
and to protect the mur8100e from over voltage, use a 900V SiC mosfet, so its 900 avalanche mode body diode will protect the 1000V diode

c3m0065090d
mosfet 900V
Title: new Radiant Half Bridge Circuit
Post by: evostars on November 20, 2020, 10:33:18 AM
Video will be watchable from november 21 2020; 0:00 AM GMT

It shows my Radiant half bridge circuit. explained into detail, and working.
Longitudinal resonance and current amplification by impulses.

https://youtu.be/c2_rKc7sHGk (https://youtu.be/c2_rKc7sHGk)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on November 23, 2020, 05:52:17 PM
Hi peolpe!
I'm amazed by this work, so I've decided to build it and make some tests myself. I've designed a driver pcb for my taste, but the schematic is the same as Ivo made in the first turn.
The pcb was designed with diptrace, a very nice software for small hobby projects. Please take and use it! My only wish is if you notice some errors please let me know!
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on November 24, 2020, 06:19:27 PM
I found meanwhile a very useful description of the driver circuit design (see picture), so I revised my work, and corrected some errors too!
These will be manufactured probably...
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on November 25, 2020, 07:10:29 PM
Hi peolpe!

I'm amazed by this work of Ivo, so I've decided to build it and make some tests myself. I've designed a driver pcb for my taste, but the schematic is the same as Ivo made in the first turn.
The pcb was designed with Diptrace, a very nice software for small hobby projects (free up to 300 pins).

Please take and use it! My only wish is if you notice some errors please let me know!

Thanks!

@admin: please delete my previous 2 post because of they are obslote!!!
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on November 26, 2020, 11:07:07 AM
While tuning and playing with the radiant half-bridge circuit, a triangle wave appears. This is from simultaneous magnetic and dielectric induction, from a dual primary.

the secondary that makes the triangle wave, also shows phase shifting.
this video shows it all:
https://youtu.be/2fLBZu7BJkM   (https://youtu.be/2fLBZu7BJkM)

Circuit is explained in the previous video:
https://youtu.be/c2_rKc7sHGk  (https://youtu.be/c2_rKc7sHGk)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: synchro1 on November 29, 2020, 04:23:55 PM
@Evostars,

Congratulations on great progress! I would like you to estimate the overall coefficient of performance: COP.

How much stronger is the pulse in L-3 than the input pulse?
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: forest on November 29, 2020, 05:37:59 PM
I believe you are on right track. Draw schematic  kinda different way and compare to Richard Willis patent ;-)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on November 30, 2020, 11:28:06 PM
cop below one.
thanks forest
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on December 03, 2020, 07:08:09 PM
See some of my simulations, it can be useful. But please correct me if I'm wrong...!
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on December 03, 2020, 07:32:21 PM
keep in mind simulations work on known principles(formulas), they for example wont show Longitudinal wave effects.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on January 03, 2021, 07:58:14 PM
Hi Ivo,

I've began with the work, and I'm stocked by the testing of the circuit. The switchings are relative clean (tested with a resistor), but as you can see at the scope pictures, if I increase the frequency, the duty cycle of the square waves will be less, even of unequal manner in both side (high-low). My signal generator gives a good signal shape directly checked with the scope. I do not understand the phenomenal. Do you have any idea or did you see something similar?

My other question: the pancake coil gives me a pure resonance of about 600 kHz. It's a beautifull dampened oscillation, but we need rather only ONE fast, large impulse (the first part of the resonance) and not like this. How do you achieve this like in your 2019-12-14 video (see attached)?

Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on January 03, 2021, 09:13:50 PM
fejleszto, very cool to see your version of the radiant half-bridge PCB working.

I have no Idea why the duty cycle changes. Suspect something to do with the ground of the square wave signal?

check If you bridged the source to the negative of the gate driver IC

The damped ringing of the L1 coil, suggests you have not connected the series resonant L2 coil (and its series capacitor) to the half bridge.

the series resonant L2 provides a low impedance path to ground for the energy of L1, during dead time.

So dont use 50% duty. use 49% or even less.

when L2 is perfect series resonant the impulse of L1 will not be visible, as it is fully absorbed into The series tuning cap of L2.

when tuned slightly above resonance, the impulses will appear (voltage probe between series cap and L2). these impulses are the voltage half waves of ringing L1 (energy is transferred into L2)

I don't know which isolated dc dc you have used, maybe that could also be a cause for the duty cycle problems
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on January 04, 2021, 09:13:17 AM
Hi Ivo,

thank you for the very fast answer!
I've found a solution for my problem: if I add +2,5Vdc offset to the 5V input signals (square waves) with the signal generator, anything works just fine at all frequencies!!! I don't understand exactly why. The negative inputs of the drivers are grounded. Perhaps the two sides should be better separated, I dont'n know...

I understand your answer in terms of damped ringings and so, I'll keep working.

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on January 04, 2021, 11:50:05 AM
great that it works. the offset makes sense.

your last scope shot shows only the negative impulse, keep in mind both polarity impulses will show up alternating, but a symmetric power supply must be used for that (earth ground in the center between + and - dc supply). ground the l1 and l2 on earth
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on January 04, 2021, 02:50:16 PM
I use symmetrical PSU.
So, I have the huge impulses, both side + and - ;)
What is the real importance of tuning L2? I achieve maximum peak voltages at different frequencies, but it has nothing to do with L2 resonance I think...
(L3 is at the moment out of game yet)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: Floor on January 04, 2021, 04:24:31 PM
@evostars

Have you considered using dual devices? i.e. The combining of the outputs from
two capacitively and magnetically separated devices.

floor
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on January 08, 2021, 01:47:25 PM
Hi Ivo,

I have played with this "toy" a little and I must conclude that in this phase it is nothing other as a step-up dc-dc buck converter. Nice work indeed! The negative back EMF is used to create a high voltage level, but it means no added (extra) energy but only conversion with about 70-80% as I measured. There must be some other tricks to achieve the desired COP>1.

"Now we cannot push power and take it at same time, the trick is only this. Then for a resonant circuit, we charge the capacitor and it discharge into his coil. Trick is to discharge the capacitor when he reach his full voltage and power the load, charge and discharge cycle, give take exchange in balance... Also power can be extracted by differential output coil, this mean half is CW and other is CCW, source in the middle. One side is grounded and other side is connected to a capacitor. The primary can be moved to tune the system to get the best COP."

So, I suspect we need to construct another switching circuit to replacing of the output spark gap!

Another consideration is to calculate with the wave impedances of the coils, namely the lenght of the coil wires to avoid unwanted wave reflections. It can be necessary to apply an isolated litz wire (all thinny wires extra isolated in the cable) to avoid the skin-effect at higher frequencies, but it is a detail to increase efficiency farther.

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on January 08, 2021, 02:07:12 PM
The negative back EMF is used to create a high voltage level, but it means no added (extra) energy but only conversion with about 70-80% as I measured. There must be some other tricks to achieve the desired COP>1

There is. But you must first start thinking in terms of intensity rather than quantity.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on January 08, 2021, 05:18:02 PM
NdaCluuDzzz! Can you tell a little more about your ideas? Fast impulses are a key to success, but what else, what do you think?
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on January 08, 2021, 05:40:30 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betatron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betatron)

"A common misunderstanding is that (a) the quanta of the fields act in the same manner as (b) the charged particles, such as electrons, that generate the fields. In our everyday world, electrons travel slowly through conductors with a drift velocity of a fraction of a centimeter (or inch) per second and through a vacuum tube at speeds of around 1 thousand km/s,[9] but fields propagate at the speed of light, approximately 300 thousand kilometers (or 186 thousand miles) a second. The speed ratio between charged particles in a conductor and field quanta is on the order of one to a million. Maxwell's equations relate (a) the presence and movement of charged particles with (b) the generation of fields. Those fields can then affect the force on, and can then move other slowly moving charged particles. Charged particles can move at relativistic speeds nearing field propagation speeds, but, as Albert Einstein showed[citation needed], this requires enormous field energies, which are not present in our everyday experiences with electricity, magnetism, matter, and time and space"  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_field)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: onepower on January 08, 2021, 06:41:51 PM
These kinds of devices generally operate at 1000v as a minimum and go up from there hence the reason they use a HV supply. For most experiments I use a 20kV source but have also used a Tesla coil running over 300kV.

Regards
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on January 08, 2021, 08:36:17 PM
Thanks. It sounds logical, but what is the lession from that for us? Could you translate it please?
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on January 09, 2021, 12:46:16 AM
https://fringeenergy.com/samson-electron-battery-accelerator/ (https://fringeenergy.com/samson-electron-battery-accelerator/)

https://overunity.com/16039/quantum-generator/ (https://overunity.com/16039/quantum-generator/)

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: onepower on January 11, 2021, 07:00:34 PM
NdaClouDzzz
Quote
There is. But you must first start thinking in terms of intensity rather than quantity.

Many like Tesla and Victor Schauberger claimed we should be more concerned with the "Qualities" of a given form of energy rather than the quantity.

What qualities does one form have that another does not and how do these relate to one another.

For example, my hair pin circuit could light a small bulb under water ten feet away using one very small 30ga wire conductor. The qualities of the energy are not like low voltage AC/DC or HV because I could hold the wire and not get a shock. The form of energy discharged from a hair pin circuit has many very specific qualities.

The common thread among the greatest inventors was that they were more concerned with the qualities something possessed. That is, a distinctive attribute or characteristic possessed by something. How something measured against other things of a similar kind or how they differed. These inventors did many experiments looking for new phenomena with different qualities than we know. They would pay great attention to all the little details most would ignore always trying to refine and expand upon the process. Thus that little quirk which most ignored could become a great force within the devices they built.

The devil is always in the details...

Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on January 20, 2021, 05:52:43 PM
So, I've made a new setup a some measurements. I use solenoid coils. The "kicking" coil, that creates the large and narrow back-EMF spikes (up to 5-600V and 60ns wide!), must have a relative high resonance frequency I think. The best solution fot that is a short coil with large diamater, large cross section (-> low resistance) and some space bw. the turns (-> low capacitance).

The resonant coil is made of isolated litz wire to reduce resistance at high frequency (skin-effect). The resonant frequency is about 29.2 kHz with 220nF capacitor.

The value of the resonant capacitor determines how much energy can be maximal stored at a certain voltage level (E=1/2*C*U²). If this energy level is reached (or at least about 90% of it), the energy stored in this cap can be extracted to the consumer. As you see in the picture, the first about 10 period has a relative steep slope, after that will be flatten so we will not have any benefit farther.

The method could be to build an extractor circuit. If the capacitor voltage level achieves a definied value, a switch with hysteresis (perhaps a comparator with MOSFET, earlier used a spark gap) delivers the charges to another puffer capacitor. As this exchange completed (a definied minimum voltage attained), the switch closes and the process starts again and again.

I've made a rough measurement (see table). The values are taken from the stabilized oscillation phase, the input power (voltage, current) read from the PSU displays. Energy calculated with the time of the first 10 period (E=U*I*t). Capacitor energy calculated as wrote above. The efficiency is so about 70-80%. Another, more accurate measuremenst are needed...
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on January 23, 2021, 04:03:32 PM
So, I've made a new setup a some measurements. I use solenoid coils. The "kicking" coil, that creates the large and narrow back-EMF spikes (up to 5-600V and 60ns wide!), must have a relative high resonance frequency I think. The best solution fot that is a short coil with large diamater, large cross section (-> low resistance) and some space bw. the turns (-> low capacitance).

The resonant coil is made of isolated litz wire to reduce resistance at high frequency (skin-effect). The resonant frequency is about 29.2 kHz with 220nF capacitor.

The value of the resonant capacitor determines how much energy can be maximal stored at a certain voltage level (E=1/2*C*U²). If this energy level is reached (or at least about 90% of it), the energy stored in this cap can be extracted to the consumer. As you see in the picture, the first about 10 period has a relative steep slope, after that will be flatten so we will not have any benefit farther.

The method could be to build an extractor circuit. If the capacitor voltage level achieves a definied value, a switch with hysteresis (perhaps a comparator with MOSFET, earlier used a spark gap) delivers the charges to another puffer capacitor. As this exchange completed (a definied minimum voltage attained), the switch closes and the process starts again and again.

I've made a rough measurement (see table). The values are taken from the stabilized oscillation phase, the input power (voltage, current) read from the PSU displays. Energy calculated with the time of the first 10 period (E=U*I*t). Capacitor energy calculated as wrote above. The efficiency is so about 70-80%. Another, more accurate measuremenst are needed...

Great work fejleszto!

After taking some distance from the work, I gained insights:
since L1 isn't resonant but L3 and L2 are, it makes sense to loose couple L1.
I measured at what distance this worked best and came to 29mm, which is half of my center hole diameter (pancake bifilar).

Since we need both forms of induction (dielectric and magnetic) it makes sense to have 2 primary coils, for a single secondary.
That is why I am now working with L3 (secondary) in the middle of L2 (series resonant, impulsed) and L1 (pulsed, producing impulses).

So, L3 is in the middle, and close coupled to L2.
L3 is loose coupled (29mm) from L1.

In the back of my mind, the idea of tesla's "extra coil" still itches.
Do we need another 4th coil to step up the secondary (L3)?
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on January 27, 2021, 05:35:10 PM
Ivo! We must definitely achieve a more efficient system by generating the back-EMF pulse!!!
Your new circuit works very good, I built it too. BUT! It wastes a lot of energy unnecessarily!

A better solution would be a push-pull system, where the coil is between the PSU and the MOSfet, and NOT bw. MOSfet and GND! A relative large cap (10.000uF or similar) schould be near the coil on the PSU side. Following with a HF filter coil, blocking dionde and a current limiting resistor.

So (one side presented): PSU -> R=10Ohm -> HV-Diode -> L=10uH -> C=10.000uF (low-ESR, parallel) -> back-EMF coil -> MOSfet -> GND.

Benefits:
- The HV back-EMF pulse generated by the coil will not be fully wasted, but captured and stored in the large puffer capacitor.
- Hopefully, the duty cycle can be drastically reduced (open time of the MOSfet). We must only maintain a stable puffer cap voltage, not feeding the ground in the about 50% of the time.

(the picture is only for illustration, don't contains all of the components I've mentioned and designed only for one power supply line)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on January 27, 2021, 06:34:29 PM
Interresting idea's, please proceed and share the results.

For me the impulse is not wasted, the resonant energy is even more amplified when the impulse is not fully absorbed in the series resonant capacitor!

I am researching this effect of the impulses in the current of the coils. So I do not want to store them in a capacitor.

the impulse seems to induce the longitudinal component of the series resonant primary coil

What I intend to do next, is switch mosfets in series by using the isolated gate driver. this will give the ability to create much higher voltage impulses

a single radiant half bridge PCB can also be used to switch 2 mosfets in series, simultaneously. I made a new video that shows this idea
https://youtu.be/w9I88HYY_Z4 (https://youtu.be/w9I88HYY_Z4)

and intend to use 4x 1700V mosfets (2x 2 in series) to create 3400V impulses (2x 4x 1000V blocking diodes).

For me the magic is in the effect of the impulse on the impedance of the resonant system.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on January 29, 2021, 01:37:28 PM
Ivo! Do you know the patent US 2004/0057255 (2004-03-25)? There are a lot of useful informations inside! Please see the text [0057], that is exactly what I was talking about! This patent mentions nothing about resonances, and uses a permanent magnet and iron core. Would be intresting to figure it out how to eliminate them (if possible).

Another intresting patent is the WO 2013/114285 (2013-01-30). Unfortunatelly, it does not cover up any important details.

The circuit from Tesla (Electrical Experimenter 1919-07 or US 609245 from 1898-08-16) what you mentioned in your last video is very fascinating, BUT! He wrote: "The essential parts of such an oscillator are: a condenser, a self-induction coil for charging the same to a high potential, a circuit controller, and a transformer which is energized by the oscillatory discharges of the condenser. There are at least three, but usually four, five or six, circuits in tune and the regulation is effected in several ways, most frequently merely by means of an adjusting screw. Under favorable conditions an efficiency as high as 85% is attainable, that is to say, that percentage of the energy supplied can be recovered in the secondary of the transformer." So, about 0.85 COP is not our goal (I've calculated 70-80% too by my experiments)! Anyway, it is strange that the coil "B" is connected to the positive(+) power supply without blocking diode, not like by your circuit parallel with "A'". But I need to read carefully the whole patent to make conclusions.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: lancaIV on January 29, 2021, 02:48:58 PM
I mean it is related :
no or right + or - polarisation/direction !?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344206216_High_efficient_electromagnetic_transformator
https://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3918 (https://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3918)

Sincere
OCWL
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: evostars on January 30, 2021, 12:29:42 PM
Ivo! Do you know the patent US 2004/0057255 (2004-03-25)? There are a lot of useful informations inside! Please see the text [0057], that is exactly what I was talking about! This patent mentions nothing about resonances, and uses a permanent magnet and iron core. Would be intresting to figure it out how to eliminate them (if possible).

Another intresting patent is the WO 2013/114285 (2013-01-30). Unfortunatelly, it does not cover up any important details.

The circuit from Tesla (Electrical Experimenter 1919-07 or US 609245 from 1898-08-16) what you mentioned in your last video is very fascinating, BUT! He wrote: "The essential parts of such an oscillator are: a condenser, a self-induction coil for charging the same to a high potential, a circuit controller, and a transformer which is energized by the oscillatory discharges of the condenser. There are at least three, but usually four, five or six, circuits in tune and the regulation is effected in several ways, most frequently merely by means of an adjusting screw. Under favorable conditions an efficiency as high as 85% is attainable, that is to say, that percentage of the energy supplied can be recovered in the secondary of the transformer." So, about 0.85 COP is not our goal (I've calculated 70-80% too by my experiments)! Anyway, it is strange that the coil "B" is connected to the positive(+) power supply without blocking diode, not like by your circuit parallel with "A'". But I need to read carefully the whole patent to make conclusions.

No I do not know that patent.

Yes in that configuration of Tesla I also reached about 85 % efficiency. But that doesn't mean we can learn from it, and advance it!
My idea still is to use a dual primary coil, and with this circuit it can be done.
It really fascinates me he states there are up to 6 circuits in resonant relation!

I made another video, it show the series mosfets switching together, using a basic Radiant power circuit (2019 april),
which is the same as this tesla oscillator.
This makes it possible to create high voltage (3500V) impulses, from coil discharges.

Many think Tesla only used capacitor discharge impulses, by making use of quenched sparkgaps,
but as the article shows, he used coil discharges in his later years of research,
which benefit because
the discharge energy doesn't pass the switch (spark). If the Tesla oscillator coil discharge, was tuned properly,
it would discharge through the series resonant (low impedance=wire resistance) primary coil,
and would NOT create a spark when the commutator opened the coil circuit, that created the voltage impulse.
Thats why his relays coil kept working so long.

This new video  of me, shows the series mosfets switching:
https://youtu.be/7vfDjN2hkBg

Multiple mosfets could be used, but the bottle neck would probably be the isolated gate driver (which could be a optocoupler with glass fiber)
, and the isolated dc dc converter (which could be a battery).
I tried using 1700V mosfets, but their pinout was wrong.
The c3m1200V mosfets are on order but should be available later this year.
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on February 01, 2021, 06:20:29 PM
I've found an intresting wiki article: "Resonant inductive coupling", see attached!

"Power transfer: Because the Q can be very high, even when low power is fed into the transmitter coil, a relatively intense field builds up over multiple cycles, which increases the power that can be received at resonance far more power is in the oscillating field than is being fed into the coil, and the receiver coil receives a percentage of that."

How can I understand this statement?
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on February 01, 2021, 07:33:11 PM
How can I understand this statement?

Tank circuits recycle energy!!!!!!!!!

Resonance in a parallel LC circuit: "If the frequency of the applied current is the circuit's natural resonant frequency..., resonance will occur, and a small driving current can excite large amplitude oscillating voltages and currents. In typical tuned circuits in electronic equipment the oscillations are very fast, from thousands to billions of times per second". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit)

https://overunity.com/18239/the-solution/msg555085/#msg555085 (https://overunity.com/18239/the-solution/msg555085/#msg555085)

https://youtu.be/e9UIZ6_4D5k (https://youtu.be/e9UIZ6_4D5k)

https://youtu.be/7Q0CGxOJS4I (https://youtu.be/7Q0CGxOJS4I)

https://youtu.be/WV6qMGd7fYc (https://youtu.be/WV6qMGd7fYc)

https://youtu.be/cAVKC1myP1s (https://youtu.be/cAVKC1myP1s)
Title: series mosfet radiant half bridge
Post by: evostars on February 05, 2021, 09:43:19 PM
It works.
I made a half bridge circuit, from 2x2 series mosfets. This way the impulse voltage can be made much higher:
https://youtu.be/OSSasginWFs (https://youtu.be/OSSasginWFs)
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on February 11, 2021, 08:20:23 PM
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on February 13, 2021, 05:50:45 PM
Thank you very much NdaClouDzzz!!!
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on February 13, 2021, 08:03:23 PM
Thank you very much NdaClouDzzz!!!

👍👍👍👍👍
Title: Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
Post by: fejleszto on February 14, 2021, 06:58:14 PM
I've studied this patent, unfortunatelly not an easy text. The main goal is to produce a very dense magnetic field for scientific pourposes. It can be achieved with approprite dimensioned resonant coils.

Resonance can be presented in two ways:
A) The LC resonance, which means a periodic energy transfer bw. magnetic and dielectric fields, as we already know.
B) As e.g. Don L. Smith sad too, the wire lenght must be calculated as a minimum of 1/4 wave lenght for a standing wave situation. The reflected waves cause in this case not a random shape (like an ocean surface) but a well definied large maximum at definied positions. This calculation takes the light of speed in account. So e.g. for 50kHz I calculate a wire lenght of 1500m (1.5km!). If I take a 10m wire, the frequency is 7.5 MHz. These are impractical values for a simple application.

I'm not sure that an electric signal (not the electrons!) travels really with light speed in a real (RLC) conductor. Better say, the signal can travel with about 50-99% c, but the waveform what is created can change because of capacitive and inductive parts much-much slower. But ok, after a small amount of time we have a standing wave with a maximum.

I must be honest, I can not imagine if I combine this two effect together what will be my benefit. How will be look such a magnetic field?

In some project of Don Smith, he mentioned that the important thing is only the relative wire lenght (1/4) of the primary and secoundary coil.
The reason for that it, it should be no unwanted back and forth signal coupling generated (causing an uncontrolled behavior becaouse of totally different wave shapes in the two coils).

Or what do you think?