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Author Topic: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit  (Read 18311 times)

Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2019, 07:10:19 PM »
peace be with you

Ivo , you need peace , not me , and after read the thread that you removed , i  have more sure about what i say .
What we agreed upon was that regardless of what happened, you would refer to the authorship of the information I made available to you, including the oscillator circuit , not the justification that you gave .

If I had lied to you, tell me the reason, why do you use almost all the information I have made available to you including some of your explanations given in your vídeos and the circuit diagram and their modus operandus ?

Just be honest and answer if you have a  such pure “heart “ like you say ;
You just can not.
 
Why do not you assume, that you relied on the information I gave you instead of inventing justifications that stain your image? 

This is the reason why I registered all my vídeos in youtube as if it were a netbook, you can not make these videos disappear ,  ether all the information registered in e-mails and in this fórum  ... and and you accuse me of lying?

Well …. go forward  you are the STAR !! Enjoy you little moment of glory  and peace be with you.

 I prefer to live a simple life with honor, without harming absolutely nobody to my benefit.

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Offline itsu

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2019, 09:49:50 PM »
I made an advanced solid state hairpin circuit producing radiant power.

It is based on a high side switched coil (L1) producing a negative back EMF impulse.
This impulse is injected into a series resonant bifilar pancake coil (L2).
The – BEMF impulse, replaces the sparkgap.

This L2 coil also has a positive DC offset, charged by the – back EMF.
The L2 coil equals the stout bars in the hairpin circuit.

L2 is loose coupled (4,5cm) to L3 (bigger bifilar pancake coil) that is parallel resonant. So both L2 and L3 resonate on the same frequency. L2 is series resonant (low impedance, so impulse can pass to positive of power suppy, giving the L2 a kick) and L3 is parallel resonant (high impedance).

L3 is parallel loaded with a 28W 230V light bulb, that lights up brightly.
The current and voltage of L3 are in phase. This is rather unique, as it is 4,5 cm distanced from the series resonant L2 (current and voltage 90 degrees out of phase). Radiant power is produced.

Here is the link to the video explaining it all. All info that is needed for replication is included.
https://youtu.be/1Flj1i0zQ-8



Here is the link to the schematic:
https://imgur.com/a/sh1JOwE

Evo,

i went as far as about 18 minutes into your video with a replication (L1 and L2 coils coupled) and have had
similar results / signals as you have shown.

The latest signal shown below in the screenshot is the voltage across the L2 coil with L1 and L2 coupled (5mm seperated).
The resonance sine wave is almost gone and the negative spike (-400V) is still there like shown by you.

The 1st picture shows the voltage / current on the drain of the MOSFET (16.7v @ 20mA very roughly).
The 2th picture shows the overall setup.


Need to build myself an L3 coil now and complete the circuit with the diodes etc.

Why does the L3 coil needs to be different as L1/L2?
I think its hard to get the same amount of copper (weight) with L3 compared to L1/L2 as you f.i. need to know the
weight of the isolation used.

Would it not be better to use a similar coil as L1/L2?  The up tranformation of the voltage should not make the difference.

Anyway, a tricky circuit as you have to watch out where to plug your probe grounds etc.

Itsu


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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2019, 12:13:33 AM »
Itsu what did you use as the Mos-Fet driver ? as the IXDN604 is listed as obsolete and no longer available
and also a low sided device. Confused or what.

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2019, 05:05:19 AM »
Itsu what did you use as the Mos-Fet driver ? as the IXDN604 is listed as obsolete and no longer available
and also a low sided device. Confused or what.
hi AlienGrey,
There is no need to stick with expensive was expensive IXDN604 Or ixdi614(inverted) which can handle up to 2Mhz and 20volts supply only for silicon carbide mosfet.
TC4452(Non inverted) or TC4451 is good enough on condition you are not going to need greater than 200khz or more than 16.5volts or 17voltssupply as tested.
Other older TC version will do as well.Found the hard way don't trust datasheet too much. :D
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Nelson Rocha ,credits to him.I now do believe BEMF recovery is indeed possible only after evo master post with very very good explanation.My frst current probe for scope is now on the way.(Aliexpress).
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Many people still living happily like nothing is happening to Earth climate our only true home.Food will become a primary valuable commodity in the near future.After bees is gone which insect does the pollination for us? Example coffee a fruit and etc.Imagine life without coffee. :D

We ever thought of complex circuit can be kick started by a mere 9volts battery. :) 

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2019, 11:03:53 AM »
Itsu what did you use as the Mos-Fet driver ? as the IXDN604 is listed as obsolete and no longer available
and also a low sided device. Confused or what.
AG,

i use a IXDD614PI which i had.
Buy them from respectable electric component sellers as i had many useless fake/crap components via other channels.

Itsu

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
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Offline evostars

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2019, 12:34:46 PM »
great work Itzu.
keep in mind the copper mass has to be equal, not the insulation. just weigh a part of  stripped coil lenght and compare it.

by making L3 larger, it steps up the voltage, and also the power. It does work with an equal coil, but it will give less power.

Didn't know the gate driver is obsolete, luckily there are other  available. the high side switching module (hsm) makes it possible to use a low side gate driver IC.

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2019, 01:51:38 PM »
Hi there, there are a lot of outlets for the speaker wire, (louder-scoper wire) ;D one thing to be aware of is what it says on the drum and the cable on it, I got a drum from Wicks store 1.5x2 with just a ruler I get it to 0.75 per copper inner dia. I also found in my junk pile while 'getting space back' some twin I got from Maplin 1.5x2 that has an inner of 1mm  ;D >:( ;D >:( Fun aint it!

I also recovered some old To3 MOSFETs 500v 24 amp IXTM24N50's think I might try one see how far I get.

There is also a 12 to 13v dc to dc 1000volt separation insulation, the TRACO POWER series (also from junk box), (but not tried yet 8)), I don't fancy using SigG's but can't find a cheap 50/50 true variable HQ output 45/55 just isn't cricket not one suggestion does it, (you can say that again)  ;D ;D I used some 8 pinUC3843 or 5 devices and 1/2 a CD4013 does the trick at 12volts on a breadboard. If anyone interested in above.
In Nelson's comments he mentions an oscillator circuit, out of sheer interest what did he use ?

Evostars  'drivers', whats the alternative I have gone through some of the RS listings but they aren't very informative and a manufacturers list might be in order.
Regards AG

PS Farnell won't entertain dealing with the loan approver !  ;D ;D
Remember with all penny pinching be aware it always ends up costing more  ;D



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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2019, 02:34:55 PM »
hi AlienGrey,
There is no need to stick with expensive was expensive IXDN604 Or ixdi614(inverted) which can handle up to 2Mhz and 20volts supply only for silicon carbide mosfet.
TC4452(Non inverted) or TC4451 is good enough on condition you are not going to need greater than 200khz or more than 16.5volts or 17voltssupply as tested.
Other older TC version will do as well.Found the hard way don't trust datasheet too much. :D
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Nelson Rocha ,credits to him.I now do believe BEMF recovery is indeed possible only after evo master post with very very good explanation.My frst current probe for scope is now on the way.(Aliexpress).
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Many people still living happily like nothing is happening to Earth climate our only true home.Food will become a primary valuable commodity in the near future.After bees is gone which insect does the pollination for us? Example coffee a fruit and etc.Imagine life without coffee. :D

We ever thought of complex circuit can be kick-started by a mere 9volts battery. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk6QLXWL-Io

Doesn't coffee screw with your blood pressure and heart palpitations, but would be far better without Monsanto !!!!!!!!!

but thanks,

PS RS stocks the Silicon Carbide device. you can cascade them for higher voltage.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2019, 07:54:11 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2019, 04:31:44 PM »
great work Itzu.
keep in mind the copper mass has to be equal, not the insulation. just weigh a part of  stripped coil lenght and compare it.

by making L3 larger, it steps up the voltage, and also the power. It does work with an equal coil, but it will give less power.

Didn't know the gate driver is obsolete, luckily there are other  available. the high side switching module (hsm) makes it possible to use a low side gate driver IC.

Evo,

ok, i will plan to strip 1m of each and weigh them.

I don't think the driver is obsolete, at least at Mouser they are still in stock:
https://nl.mouser.com/ProductDetail/IXYS-Integrated-Circuits/IXDN604PI?qs=%2Fha2pyFadujTFrnvbMX93ypA3Yz6Hay61aYp7UMrF6Y%3D

Itsu

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2019, 04:36:47 PM »
Hi everyone,
Regarding radiant power-

I have just tried kapanadze coil just the primary winding for L1 and multi layer coil as L2(output for recovery).
I have just tried to pull a fast one since it's late here.

It's the first time I have got OVP (Over voltage protection indicator) on my power supply which is set at 12volts 0.7Amps.
The power supply display indicator will increase to 13.5volts depending on duty used as mentioned below.Used fast blocking diode UF5408 from + supply to circuit and got 12.3volts at Power supply display at around 0.49Amps with 5watt bulb.

230volts 5watt bulb connected between C3,C2 and L2,C1.

Peak voltage measured across C2 with bulb connected is around 530Vpp.

C1=10uf Wima capacitor 250VDC
C2=100nf 2kv
C3=0.47ufx2 in parallel config WIMA capacitor HV.
L1=319uH (Primary) L2=160uH (Multilayer coil)Frequency set at 60hz at 96% ...97% duty since i am using inverted version of mosfet driver IXDI614 or 3% or 4% non inverted.
I have run out of time to tune circuit with proper capacitor waiting for May 1st (Holiday) to continue experiment.
This is my finding for now.May need to swap wire of primary or multilayer coil.
I am using a isolated 15volts module to power the mosfet driver I/C.Using same 12volts from single output supply.

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2019, 08:41:17 PM »
hi AlienGrey,

TC4452(Non inverted) or TC4451 is good enough on condition you are not going to need greater than 200khz or more than 16.5volts or 17voltssupply as tested.
Other older TC version will do as well. Found the hard way don't trust datasheet too much. :D
------------------------
Nelson Rocha ,credits to him.I now do believe BEMF recovery is indeed possible only after evo master post with very very good explanation.My frst current probe for scope is now on the way.(Aliexpress).
-----------------------------
Many people still living happily like nothing is happening to Earth climate our only true home. Food will become a primary valuable commodity in the near future. After bees is gone which insect does the pollination for us? Example coffee a fruit and etc.Imagine life without coffee. :D

We ever thought of complex circuit can be kick-started by a mere 9volts battery. :)
Please be aware the TC4451 and the TC4451 are both Low Side according to datasheet however the TC4431 and /32 are high sided versions at 2mhz capability should you want to use them for any future use   :)  the problem with some suppliers have a 15 Eur p&p handling charge Euro 30 at some others, for those who want a shared stake  ;D ;D

I notice the MUR 1660 device is a 16A screw down with the requirement of an insulating kit some times they can cost more than the device  >:( they might be fast but have a huge voltage drop on my meter where a 3 or 5 amp UF4508's would possibly do while testing ;D

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2019, 07:52:10 PM »
Please be aware the TC4451 and the TC4451 are both Low Side according to datasheet however the TC4431 and /32 are high sided versions at 2mhz capability should you want to use them for any future use   :)  the problem with some suppliers have a 15 Eur p&p handling charge Euro 30 at some others, for those who want a shared stake  ;D ;D

I notice the MUR 1660 device is a 16A screw down with the requirement of an insulating kit some times they can cost more than the device  >:( they might be fast but have a huge voltage drop on my meter where a 3 or 5 amp UF4508's would possibly do while testing ;D
hi AlienGrey,
If you take a look at the Master IVO -Youtube video expanded description -Bifilar coil build and high side switching explained
He did mention  2 separate dc supplies.But i took a logical short cut by using a isolated(1.5kv) buck/boost module and stick with single supply.

2 separate DC power supplies are used. A 12V battery (for switching the mosfet), is grounded on the source. the other DC power supply is connected to the drain and the coil. It powers the coil, and when the mosfet turns off, the coil produces the negative back EMF from the  magnetic field energy.

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Actual experiment with power supply and battery will be shown in couple of hours.I forgot to mention i did use multimeter at 10 Amps setting and merely toggle between A/C or dc mode.The dc mode matched the Variable power supply display .But the A/C Amps it was showing around 2.xx times higher at around 1.6Amps if i recall correctly.I think this was the thing that made my PS display OVP once exceeded 13.8volts at 12volts output setting.
Honestly it is a unusual circuit design that needs more research.

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2019, 12:13:35 AM »
hi AlienGrey,
If you take a look at the Master IVO -Youtube video expanded description -Bifilar coil build and high side switching explained
He did mention  2 separate dc supplies.But i took a logical short cut by using a isolated(1.5kv) buck/boost module and stick with single supply.

2 separate DC power supplies are used. A 12V battery (for switching the mosfet), is grounded on the source. the other DC power supply is connected to the drain and the coil. It powers the coil, and when the mosfet turns off, the coil produces the negative back EMF from the  magnetic field energy.

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Actual experiment with power supply and battery will be shown in couple of hours.I forgot to mention i did use multimeter at 10 Amps setting and merely toggle between A/C or dc mode.The dc mode matched the Variable power supply display .But the A/C Amps it was showing around 2.xx times higher at around 1.6Amps if i recall correctly.I think this was the thing that made my PS display OVP once exceeded 13.8volts at 12volts output setting.
Honestly it is a unusual circuit design that needs more research.
high and yes 'belt and bracers man me  ;D
seriously I used a UCC27321 and a 12v-> 13V DC-DC converter too
test rig board pot is 10k Cap is 472 rest are 103 and a 220 by the driver DC -DC is a Traco TRA  3-1213.

I don't have any of the 1.5 mm wire so I had to use a different cap to the 47n but it still runs ok for testing, I can get 250 volts easy

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2019, 08:36:09 AM »
Hi,
I just posted a video of the Tesla harpin circuit to reveal the supply DC and A/C Amps produced by circuit which cause the variable power supply to display OVP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJgOzW5xgN8&feature=youtu.be
Biggest blunder for today i accidently recorded the entire video in potrait mode.Had to rotate video but  compromise quality.

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Re: Radiant power from Solid state Tesla hairpin circuit
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2019, 12:14:09 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk6QLXWL-Io

Doesn't coffee screw with your blood pressure and heart palpitations, but would be far better without Monsanto !!!!!!!!!

but thanks,

PS RS stocks the Silicon Carbide device. you can cascade them for higher voltage.

AG  dont gate driver . jUST MAKE IT EASY!  That was the diagram shared in  in  Reply to EVO #1530 on: September 06, 2018, 02:25:58 PM »  https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg525481/#msg525481

You are free from test it . Well Ivo and now ALMOST PEOPLE SAY  ( IVO CIRCUIT )  but is incredible how noyone replicate it when i post in this forum . lol

 

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