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Title: low weight and high power density energy conversion system parts
Post by: lancaIV on March 22, 2019, 01:57:05 PM
                   Old and new re-/ invention or improvement :
          the search for the best technical advantage/disadvantage ratio and lowest production cost

                     rotative electric drive ( motor or generator, AC alternator)

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2015/04/siemens-and-emrax-claim-best-power-to.html (https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2015/04/siemens-and-emrax-claim-best-power-to.html)
                  2500 RPM range : 5 - 10 KW per Kg passive/active material weight
same article forecast : superconducting engine and motor 40-80 KW/ Kg power-to-weight ratio ( RPM ?)

                          but we are in 2019 :
so we have to search and find the disadvantages and the solutions :

 rotative mechanical friction and wear ( system function lifetime shortening )
Ultrasonic surface treatment ( NUFM) and surface coating ( GEO, GEO+)  https://web.archive.org/web/20050305185038/http://bufo.ru/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20050305185038/http://bufo.ru/)

Motor/ transformer space/ weight saving method :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1#)

Magnetic material saving or magnetic force improving array :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1#)


Iron core or later air core :
https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/lup/publication/ac5293fd-65b6-4ca1-be28-dc9dd1677f25 (https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/lup/publication/ac5293fd-65b6-4ca1-be28-dc9dd1677f25)

No magnetic material in the construction except in the magnets
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4318019A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4318019A/en)

NASA labs R&D plastic bonded magnets and
https://m.phys.org/news/2010-03-iron-nitrogen-compound-strongest-magnet.html (https://m.phys.org/news/2010-03-iron-nitrogen-compound-strongest-magnet.html)

EE-parts 3d-print hard-/ software
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/3-d-printers-offer-better-way-make-some-magnets (https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/3-d-printers-offer-better-way-make-some-magnets)

3d motor or generator parts printing : https://www.google.com/search?q=3d+electric+motor+print&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=3d+electric+motor+print&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)

wiring in future : coils or foils or sputted layer from copper to copper/ alu to alu to carbon( CNT) graphit/ graphene coils/ foils/layer
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282022870_AT_THE_CUSP_OF_THE_NEXT_ELECTRIC_MOTOR_REVOLUTION_REPLACING_COPPER_WITH_CARBON_NANOMATERIALS

anorganic to organic materials
Title: Re: low weight and high power density energy conversion system parts
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2019, 04:57:15 PM
www.schillergy.com (http://www.schillergy.com)
From their PDF :
Motorcycle ( 16 KW) and Automobile ( 65 KW)  e-drive

               3000 RPM 120 V and 400 V
     
                       active material

Permanent magnets     0,1 Kg .       /KW
Copper                             0,1 Kg.        /KW
Iron                                0,1-  0,25 Kg/ KW


Permanent magnets : magnet array, magnet array x Iron-Nitrite/Nitrogen PM

Copper : aluminium ( later carbon)coil and cooling technique Ed Sines
                   -------------------------------------------------------

        Comercial   DC motor, 3000 RPM 12V and more , Kg material/KW -motor price calculation

https://m.alibaba.com/showroom/dc-motor-3000rpm.html (https://m.alibaba.com/showroom/dc-motor-3000rpm.html)

https://m.alibaba.com/product/60740222994/2018-New-Design-6000W-Electric-Car.html?spm=a2706.7835515.0.0.3688470bagBk2W (https://m.alibaba.com/product/60740222994/2018-New-Design-6000W-Electric-Car.html?spm=a2706.7835515.0.0.3688470bagBk2W)
                                                         180-195 US$/ 23 Kg ~     

                                             < 10 US$/Kg. selling price.       passive/ active material e-drive
                                                  ? US$/Kg  production price ?
                                         How many hours function warranty. ?( theory/ practizise)

High power/ weight ratio drives without permanent magnets :
http://www.arestov.de/index.php/en/electric-bike (http://www.arestov.de/index.php/en/electric-bike)
Title: Re: low weight and high power density energy conversion system parts
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2019, 11:14:09 PM
It would be wonderful to have ready to use devices  !  8)
Approved and tested ! ::)
And relatively cost attractive  ! :)

Probably one ( unexspected) source :  ;)
https://www.google.com/search?q=akio+hara+winpro&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=akio+hara+winpro&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)
 Nice generator, with very efficient conversion technique !

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20130038069A1/de

        https://patents.google.com/patent/US4464095A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4464095A/en) as " rotative cw/ccw magnetic principle"
                      and speed-/power-amplifier effect
Title: Re: low weight and high power density energy conversion system parts
Post by: lancaIV on July 10, 2019, 12:41:56 PM
A relatively low cost energy generator project :

Target : max.  500 Euros/KW unit  1 Euro-cent/KWh   tax Quote : 5% p. a.   amortization : 10 years


E. U.  In-situ private household energy generation ,renewable,low-/no CO2- and other GHG emission
1. dis-/advantage comparison :

A.Fanerator compressed air motor-generator chamber

B.Marzahn /Baquero Menendez solar cell chamber

C.Fritzsche multi generator-1 motor couple

D. Thorpe - Li Yng wind chamber with motor assistant for no/low wind

E.Mukherjee generator-rotative controle unit couple

Calculation and avaliation ( industrial prices) result : cheapest concept "E. Mukherjee", second. Fritzsche
---------------------------------------------------------
Mukherjee prototyping :

instead hand curbe for system starting using a low cost electric drill ( accu or net sourced)

Bearing : ultra low friction treatment bufo.ru ,surface finishing and coating

generator/motor : Helmut Schiller high power density machine             

  3000 or 6000 or 12000 RPM work velocity ( higher RPM = less material and costs )

Bearing ( untreated)  lifetime : 3000 RPM ca. 20000 hours full-load
                                                      6000 RPM.      10000 hours
                                                    12000 RPM.        5000 hours

             bufo.ru GEO treated.     3000 RPM ca. 80000 hours full- load
                                                       6000 RPM.       40000 hours
                                                      12000 RPM.      20000 hours

Helmut Schiller 3000 RPM 1 KW motor weight : 1 Kg

                             6000.                                            : up to 1/2 Kg         


                           12000.                                            : up to 1/4 Kg

Mukherjee power unit cycle : 2 KW generator - 0,5 KW controls unit - rectification losts(+ res.) : net 1 KW output
Title: Re: low weight and high power density energy conversion system parts
Post by: lancaIV on February 29, 2020, 02:33:11 PM
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13385 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13385)


Kg production costs if 10-20 Wh/Kg and given KWh storage a 125 US$ as price estimation ?


1000 Wh / 10 Wh per Kg             +- 100 Kg
1000 Wh / 20 Wh per Kg             +-   50 Kg

For comparison :

Alkaline Mignon- 1,2-1,5 V - /AA-batterie,+- 23 Gr. weight,, in 100 pieces package available for ≤ 10 Euros :

 0,1 Euros per pill ,   4 Euros/Kg pill

this estimated Kg-endconsumer market  price as target for :


hydro-carbon electric cell from 1927 :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19280203&CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19280203&CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A)


15 Kg for 550 piles , with 1,2 Volt and 1,5 A output  per cell


2020 production costs ?








( mysteric that 1927     660 Volt a 1,5 Ampere pils/piles-array      could drive a :  10 HP 1500 RPM electric motor )


                                  +- 1000 VA                                                                    +- 7457 Watt  nominal      ( electric engine start inrush behaviour ?)


Nicola Teslas Pierce Arrows wonder performance part/trick ?
                                     

I think this represents a cheap electricity source for bivalent energy generation and storage :
Conventional and artificial Wind + solar energy converter use and for no/low seasons rechargeable hydro-carbon cells  !

550 pils output x 30 hours  37,5 days      Mr. Chalko/mtbest.net  daily 800 Wh consume

                                                 10    days       oeko-energie.de intelligent household electricity consume a 3 KWh


Enough time to wait ( conventional wind/solar  converter use ) for the next wind breeze or sunshine/sunny days per charge  !

Important for the KWh- hydro-carbon cell energy price : how many water recharge cycles  ?
             550 pils a 1,2 V a 1,5 Ampere : 15 Kg x 4 Euros/Kg :

60 Euros/  1 charge = 30 hours =       30 KWh delivered                 =   2,0      Euros/KWh
                  10 recharge cycles     =    300 KWh delivered                 =   0,2      Euro/  KWh
                100 recharge cycles     =  3000 KWh delivered                =   0,02    Euro / KWh
Zinc without acid = up to 50 times less reduction/consume ( coating ?) ~ 50 recharge cycles ?
Title: Re: low weight and high power density energy conversion system parts
Post by: lancaIV on November 07, 2020, 01:51:48 PM
Color's Kapanadze .... / Kapadnaze Cousin .....
Or : Ramos Suarez ,Pavel Imris,Tanaka Saburo ,Keiichiro Asaoka

Target : energy source

Function : warm water / air conditioning,kitchen appliances

Energetic electricity use sum per annum : 1270 KWh = 120 KWh + 600 KWh + 550 KWh

Daily in summer 1,85 KWh average
Daily in Winter average 3,5 KWh,peak 11,5 KWh

Warmwater : from 1800 KWh heat to 1200 KWh heat ( showerloop,et cet .. power/water saving)
                        with C.O.P. 10 devices 120 KWh electric p.a.
Room heating : 0° Celsius - 20°Celsius climate zone

                       80 sqm home with conventional insulation 4000 Wp heat
                       6000 KWh heat emission per annum
                       600 KWh electric

Kitchen appliances : Autonomous House and oeko-energie.de appliance 50% consume decrease improvement
by motor and heatelement and operation process  improvement
1,5 KWh x 365 days ~ 550 KWh

1000 Wh lead battery 75 Euros 300 charge cycles 25¢/cycle or KWh
1000 Wh lead-carbon battery 150 Euros 1500 charge cycles 10¢/cycle or KWh
1000 Wh lithium battery 300 Euros 3000 charge cycles 10¢/cycle or KWh

+ loader / inverter ? 12/24 V or 110/115Volt or 220/230 Volt DC or AC house circuit ?


A.when and how minimum : 5¢/charge cycle or KWh storage costs ( without subsidary calculation !)
B.instead copper coils - when high purity aluminium coils 50% cheaper ?C. instead coils foils ? dis-/advantage physical/economical/technical

     
Related Kyoto -80% GHG and Paris -+1,5°C temperature :

'Heizpilz~ patio heater ' by gaz or electric current
We do increase the ambient temperature ( calori or Joule )
if by electrodynamic cycle :

' clean'(Kyoto) earth ambiental temperature ( + dehumidification entrophy effect) over 1,5°C limit consequence "! ?

Scientifical or political understandings dilemma !?




Next problem : physical / physiological temperature
           
                            by human body up to 10° K difference feeled ( humidity,air movement,pressure)
                           by plants/nature living  habitat ?
( TIME LIFE book,'Plants': tomatoes and their (night-)temperature related growth sensibility )

The in-room minimum decision by court/law : 18°C night minimum / 20-21°C during day !
Fujitsu heat pump consumption  information( fenixgroup.cz conventional heater correlation ):15 ° K versus 20°K is not 33,3% but physically/by electric consumption 100% increase !
Professor Dr.Ing. habil. Claus Meier (R.I.P.) :
radiative near/far IR 18°C heated room ~ 21°C convective/conductive  heated room


About 'applied/feeled' physical/physiological heat/cold temperature relationship : wristify brasselet function !

The courts by their non scientifical decisions demands to behave unecological and uneconomical !
But over their decision,in german : WIRTSCHAFTLICHKEITSGEBOT
                                                            = THE HIGHEST HUMAN LAW AND ORDER INSTANCE
ECONOMICS RULE beats ever Courts(Supreme,...) decisions !
Importance : physical real calculated ' energie pass/Energieausweis' from buildings !




1 Commandmend/1.Gebot : Niemand Anders hat ueber Dich ( dem Lesenden,Angewiesenem  : Mich) Herr zu sein  (!)
         Bible language : I and 'I' : mirror/comparator (old educational ' Ebenbild' method/tecnique)

Parl(i)ament each delegate his freedom and demand : GEWISSENSFREIHEIT ,'SEIN' ~ psych. Freud "ES" '-decision

Sincerely
Title: Re: low weight and high power density energy conversion system parts
Post by: seychelles on November 07, 2020, 06:35:58 PM
LANCA PLEASE HELP ME . I LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH KW HOUR OF ELECTRICITY CAN BE GENERATED OFF 1000 SQUARE METRE OF
FLAT SURFACE AREA HERE ON PRASLIN ISLAND SEYCHELLES. THANKING YOU IN ANTICIPATION FOR YOUR CORPORATION.
Title: Re: low weight and high power density energy conversion system parts
Post by: lancaIV on November 07, 2020, 07:41:44 PM
How many KWh you need or wish or expect ?
W or KW or MW level ?

1000 sqm ! Flat/base area x stage : 1 mtr. height ,2 mtrs. height ,.....

Wind towers heights ?


Looking in searchmachine  for Praslin/La Digue energy projects : diesel generator,wind,solar

Seychelles : 2075 KWh/sqm  solar radiation per year

                          14,8 Kph average wind speed ( Seychelles intern. airport )


Instead diesel/fossil fuels  but engines/generators  with similar power-to-weight/volume ratio ?


1000 sqm area : 100 000 KWh p.a. ? Yes !  1 000 000 KWh p.a.  ? Yes !

                                   INVESTMENT related !

                                  Moveable 'e-power plants ' !


Sincerely