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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2019, 11:19:06 PM »
I had another closer look at the first video from Las Vegas over here:

https://youtu.be/XZkuteW_Q9k?t=19
Well they said somehow "it has an electrical  demand of 7 day KWatt" ??
Or did I misunderstood this ?
Does it mean 7 KWatthours per day for the shooting range container ?
Also now I understood what they meant with the "parasitric load" of 400-600 Watts,that is just a load on the motor to generate this power via a generator to charge up the starter battery.
 This battery is needed , if the motor needs to be stopped and
to drive it back up to running speed with the starter battery...Probably this is also used for the "accelerator electronic box" controlling all the timing of the motor...
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2019, 11:28:39 PM »
Thanks Wesley, just wanted to post this also !
Looks very professional and promising...
Not at all a scam...The first shipped motor was already version 32 !Now new motors are shrink wrapped waiting for delivery !
Great company !
Really watch this video several times.Regards, Stefan.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2019, 11:43:48 AM »
 What is the point of the starter motor?
The guy in the last video started it up by hand with very little effort at all.
The flywheels are very thick (all those layers sandwhiched together) this will absorb the field.I don't like the term sheilding.
If it is a scam they've done a good job of it. I hope it is real.
A break down of the build would be nice.
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2019, 12:37:29 AM »
I think the answer is to use the opposing field that is created when we draw power.
Not to try and isolate fields, but use them as they manifest.
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2019, 02:41:17 PM »
Here are some more answers and infos from Karl Walsh, who probably has the most infos about the motor so far:

 Lifting this motor off the ground is no problem. Crystal will also be elevated on a see-thru Lexan base, which pretty much the same as lifting it. You just can’t process in your brain that they’re not hiding anything— except the magnets.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 4 days ago      Yes it was kidding. :-) They are very friendly people. If you have a legit reason to request a tour (potential investor or customer) they’d be delighted to show you everything but the magnets. Just don’t show up unannounced with a bunch of machines. And you should speak to Doug Bean about a tour, not Dennis.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 4 days ago      IEC has three operational motors and SRI has one with another installing any time now. There are two or three more motors finished at IEC awaiting delivery, plus a fourth motor that’ll Be the most special of all. The motor and  base will be entirely made of Lexan—except for the magnet fuel and casing, the tiny bearings and misc fasteners. Her name is Crystal and she’ll be operational before May. Good luck debunking her.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 4 days ago      You confidently assert, with zero knowledge of anything, that they would only show you what they want you to see.  That is not how they operate, and is complete bull crap.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 4 days ago      What if a stranger showed up at your front door unannounced? Arrange it in advance and everything will be fine
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 4 days ago      That is complete BS. I’ve never seen any request denied except to see the proprietary magnet fuel itself. They’re very proud to be the first to make magnets produce work— and let guests poke around to see almost everything. You would absolutely leave their facility convinced it is real. Such needless and unfounded negativity you harbor.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 4 days ago      This is getting a tad repetitive.im taking a break and will be back in a week or two when there’s big news to report. And I assure you it will be BIG.
     2        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 4 days ago      Why not? Because there is also some very sophisticated software involved that does many thousands of calculations per second. You folks are used to looking at  rudimentary fake machines that need few parts and resemble toys. There is no way an individual or a small group of smart people could recreate the Earth Engine. It requires over 1,400 parts and is no toy.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 4 days ago      Now THAT is the definition of a clusterf*ck. When I first heard about the fraud charge I hadn’t invested yet and was ready to run for the hills. Then I sat down with Dennis and he took out binders containing hundreds of court docs. He not only explained how he was defrauded, he showed me news stories on how the judge in his case lost her job for doing very bad things on other cases. Bottom line this has less than zero to do with whether the motor works or not. Had Thomas Edison been caught lying in a business deal, that wouldn’t made the light bulb any less revolutionary.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 4 days ago      The videos you’ve seen are ones that I just decided to shoot on various visits. There was no ‘plan’ in mind when I shot them. Regarding testing, they have been testing on load banks for several years. I haven’t asked to look at the data because I wouldn’t understand what I was looking at. You could try to arrange a tour and ask them and request the raw data yourself. And yes you got it right about the motor shown on the forklift. It’ll run like the Energizer Bunny for a long time— even fully loaded. And they’re already working on much larger and smaller size models.
     2        Reply   View in discussion        Discussion on Revolution-Green 1204 comments       Earth Engine: claimed 3 years of 40+ kW mechanical energy production from magnets   (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 4 days ago      The motor can do 41 kW continuous but for the first year they’re limiting the motors to 25 kW, as they monitor for reliability. By next year they expect to be doing 100 kW.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Simon Derricutt 5 days ago      That the Vegas owner is already installing a second motor tells me a lawsuit isn’t in the cards. In fact he’s about to invest a lot more money into this project.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Simon Derricutt 5 days ago      Correct that you don’t need ‘that much’ asymmetry. The motor worked for years with an approx 65/35 ratio. However the new 99.99/.01 ratio is more powerful.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 5 days ago      I in fact enjoy hearing about every suspicion you guys have. If you actually went there, you would see what you infer is not doable, unless the owner of SRI was in on it. And this owner is now marketing his shooting ranges together with the motor as a package deal.  One of his biggest customers is the Pentagon. You don’t even wanna mess with outright defrauding the US Military.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Simon Derricutt 5 days ago      The inventor categorically denies its a Hallbach. It is completely different he says.  Why don’t one of you just go to Vegas and see it and talk to the owner? He is a long time Vegas resident, very credible with a very successful biz track record. Not only has he no reason to lie about the motor, he would go apeshit and file a lawsuit immediately if it was not real.
     2        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 5 days ago      Not following your logic here. The OWNER of the factory is happy with the motor so ordered another one. He is also an investor. How could IEC install a permanent secret power source in his building? The motor was installed Jan 23. Or are you suggesting that IEC investors are partners in the scam?  You guys only have a few more weeks of not acknowledging the motor is real. Enjoy it.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 6 days ago      If you mean the furniture factory, I heard yesterday it’s a 200,000 sf facility and they’re putting in two motors. They’ll be installed near the entrance for visitor viewing. And the New Mexico motor just got approved by some state oil field regulatory agency, so that install looks to be ahead of schedule.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Simon Derricutt 6 days ago      The Vegas company is happy and currently installing a second motor.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Simon Derricutt 6 days ago      I respectfully disagree. Folks here will just cry ‘!Photoshop’ or that a CGI video effects pro was hired. Is there a reason you say the Las Vegas motor isn’t running?
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Zephir 6 days ago      That is why IEC has never cared much about demos.  They simply want to get 100 motors installed in businesses as quickly as possible. And voila, no more skeptics.
     2        Reply   View in discussion          Discussion on Revolution-Green 1204 comments       Earth Engine: claimed 3 years of 40+ kW mechanical energy production from magnets   (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Zephir 6 days ago      I follow Infinity SAV on Instagram and wish them all the luck. The worldwide energy market is so immense, there’s plenty of room for everyone.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Woody 6 days ago      They like the idea of doing Livestream demos, as they already have a top-notch video studio.  Once tha Lexan demo motor is finished, you just may see stuff like 24/7 demos happening. .
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 6 days ago      Thanks. Maybe the reason other FE systems weren’t so forthcoming is they had much to hide? Other than the sensitive parts that would allow the motor to be copied, IEC is happy to show the motor and discuss it openly with all who visit.
     3        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Zephir 6 days ago      I don’t know the name Mr Haley. I’m good friends with the folks who produced the video though. While the production values are high, they went a tad overboard on the SFX, and that hurts credibility on such a serious subject matter.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Woody 6 days ago      Should the motor turn out to be fake, I will offer to fly out to LA all the regular posters here, so they can smash cream pies in my face. And my wife will be happy to assist you. I would also consider tattooing ‘I AM AN IDIOT!’on my forehead if I wasn’t so afraid of needles.
     2        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 6 days ago      Just learned the entire flywheel will be made from Lexan. In fact, over 99% of the motor will be see-thru including the solid Lexan base that will elevate the motor above the floor. The only opaque parts will be the tiny box housing the magnet ‘fuel’ and the tiny metal bearings in the flywheel. So there you have it— by May a ‘Skeptic-Proof’ motor should be ready to be unveiled.
     2        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 7 days ago      That’s assuming there’s an unlimited supply of rare earths out there, which there isn’t. In fact one of IEC’s major concerns has been securing enough magnet ‘fuel’ when production scales up significantly.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  PieEconomics 7 days ago      The automobiles are way down on the list of applications. There are a million pumpjacks on oil wells across the US. Nearly every one of them could use the motor. Wherever energy costs are highest, particularly island nations and remote areas lacking a grid, that’s where you focus marketing efforts.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Zephir 7 days ago      Indeed IEC has always expected competition, so they want to be first to market with a quality product and great service. The US energy market alone is $1 trillion annually. Gaining even a 1% share = $10 billion.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 7 days ago      Whoa I detect a whiff of arrogance here. Along with the IEC I’ve considered the implications for hundreds of hours more than you have, and your list doesn’t begin to scratch the surface. As the CEO is fond of saying, ‘This is simply the most disruptive technology imaginable.’
     1        Reply   View in discussion         Discussion on Revolution-Green 1204 comments       Earth Engine: claimed 3 years of 40+ kW mechanical energy production from magnets   (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 7 days ago      Well, ya gotta start somewhere. Might as well be a trade show for the world’s energy community. And no it won’t bankrupt the petroleum industry. The motor won’t be able to power an automobile any time soon. It’s not designed to handle potholes so well.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  HiggsField 7 days ago      Because running water was deemed to be a more interesting visual to attract folks walking past the booth.  Can’t imagine anything more boring than a generator just sitting there doing nothing.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Matt 7 days ago      The main operations are in Scottsdale. Wyoming isn’t a  place to set up operations, but it’s a great state to incorporate.  You think the multitude of major companies incorporated in Delaware actually have operations there? The Vegas address is used by an IEC exec who resides in LV. This sleuthing expedition goes nowhere.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Simon Derricutt 7 days ago      At trade shows they hook it up to a water pump. That doesn’t require much power, but it was the best visual they could think of for such a limited space.  (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9e3a8541bc8495b940e9f981cfc6832423340eab3cae0adfca844b2ad06c68d1.jpg)       3        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Matt 7 days ago      The address is 7543 N Tierra Buena Lane
Scottsdale AZ 85260. Here’s a photo of the front exterior.
The  (https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/724c754e52eb3a1f1e2af436d342e7676690936a11152b22d9caeb505ecc2984.jpg)   HQ is at 30 N Gould Street, Sheridan, WY 82801They also have an office in Las Vegas.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  TinselKoala 7 days ago      The motor ran for 72 hrs consecutively at recent trade shows in Orlando & Vegas. From your formulas are you able to calculate how much secret electricity the motor would have needed to spin for so long? And I guarantee you those two giant convention centers wouldn’t have drilled secret holes in their concrete floors for anyone.
     1        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 7 days ago      Many times I have seen flywheels lying around in various stages of assembly, and there were no hidden compartments. Many brilliant minds have conjectured that a magnet motor is possible. You don’t seem to be in that camp. Every single action that IEC is taking—from their free training school for technicians, to their continual staffing and machinery  build-up, to their investment in biz real estate (30,000 sf Scottsdale facility plus a 168-acre former Air Force base in WY) strongly  suggests they are confident and sincere. If you are out to scam money before leaving town, you stay lean and liquid. Also the inventor has no control over the bank accounts. The highly accomplished CEO, who several of you suggest has also been duped, has total control of the finances. And regarding the upcoming sequestered testing, I can guarantee there will be NO conditions placed by IEC. Not only would my NASA/SpaceX friend scream bloody murder, I would scream even louder. The inventor has spent his career as an engineer, holds several patents, and received his degree in product development from MIT Sloan. A lifelong learner, he is currently taking online courses in Physiology and Radiology (magnetic resonance) at Harvard Medical School.
     2        Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 7 days ago      A flywheel within a flywheel? Now that would indeed be very cool. And if the inventor was that brilliantly devious, then he’s earned my investment. Keep in mind that all this criminal behavior is being attributed to a small-town Wyoming boy who graduated MIT and remains happily married to his 9th grade sweetheart.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)      Karl Walsh  Woody 7 days ago      Ok now I get it— every motor IEC installs will involve some kind of fantastic and elaborate trick, like having someone sneak out several times weekly to Farmington, which doesn’t even have air service. And yes, I also was told that early on IEC asked several top schools and scientists to verify the motor, however all refused the bond request. I definitely think IEC has chosen the best path—to get their proof from the marketplace, where it matters.
            Reply   View in discussion    (https://c.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/11058/5616/avatar92.jpg?1402869605)     Karl Walsh  QuestionEverything 7 days ago     The ‘lens’ mechanism is one the few things that remain top-secret.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2019, 04:16:37 PM »
Tinselkoala has a fear of free energy devices and seems to have a particular bias against magnetic powered engines. A phobia, if you will, that the acceptance of free energy by the masses will lead to economic collapse along with the death and destruction of all he holds dear. This observation by me is based on numerous public postings he has made over the years. It's not bias based on his personal attacks against me. Just read his attacks on this one engine.

TK, you might as well give up. Magnet motors are real and they are are about to be proven to everyone beyond doubt.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2019, 09:32:48 PM »
Just curious,
What's the price US $ for this (40KW) now running 25 KW/h Unit?

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2019, 10:17:52 PM »
Tinselkoala has a fear of free energy devices and seems to have a particular bias against magnetic powered engines. A phobia, if you will, that the acceptance of free energy by the masses will lead to economic collapse along with the death and destruction of all he holds dear. This observation by me is based on numerous public postings he has made over the years. It's not bias based on his personal attacks against me. Just read his attacks on this one engine.

TK, you might as well give up. Magnet motors are real and they are are about to be proven to everyone beyond doubt.

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Preserved for posterity. Are you the same "Mad Mack" who lied for so long at Err-on's forum about your "working" magnet motor? I laugh out loud at you.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2019, 06:59:44 PM »
Stefan
 It is hard to find specific information on the third-party lab test
 Do you have a link to when this will be scheduled and what lab will be doing the test?
 We have persons who could possibly attend a public demonstration.
 And perhaps even bring appropriate equipment .


 Also I know Russ is out that way,.....however I believe he has some “concerns “ in his life right now that might effect him scheduling things.


Thx
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #56 on: April 12, 2019, 11:15:53 PM »
TK posted at Revolution green in the comments:

I have a couple of comments and questions (about the video).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bA2OMRcxKo

 At 5:46 we see the data
screen from the control software, of the motor right in front there,
which is set up to drive the water pump thru the Z-Drive magnetic
gearing. As far as I can tell there is _no_ electrical generator or
electrical output of this demonstration motor, just the z-drive to the
water pump. The videographer pans around the two running machines. Where
is any electrical output machinery or load? It does not appear to me
that there is even a stator coil-rotor magnet geometry evident that
could generate electrical power from the rotation.

Yet the Motor Control screen shows "AC Current" of 78 amps and "AC Voltage" of 7.5625
volts. The 7.5625 figure is of course false precision since a
measurement to the ten-thousandth of a volt is implausible under these
conditions, but let that slide for the moment. So we have some
electrical measurement of a little less than 600 watts, on something
that has no electrical _output_ or means to generate such, in evidence.
And while it is evident that the pump is turning, being driven by the
Z-drive magnetic gearing... it does not appear to be actually pumping
any water at that point.
We also note the "Voltage Modulation"
reading of.... 14.901960784313722 percent. I submit that this figure is
WRONG. The actual voltage modulation is 14.901960784313723 percent. Go
ahead, prove me wrong. The point here is that false precision means
that the cited number is simply wrong, since no measurement can possibly
be that precise... and furthermore no _professional_ motor control
software would display such an obviously wrong, false precision number
like that.
There is more that can be said about that data screen
but this is enough to demonstrate that it is nothing more than a "bright
shiny object" to make the spectators go "ooh and ahh they must know
what they are doing since they have numbers that are that precise..." Of
course there is a big difference between precision and accuracy, and
false precision of the degree displayed here is Yet Another big red flag
waving in the breeze.
"Ten years in the making"... not just since 2013 then.
Both of the running motors in the video are mounted on elevated, concealing
metal base platforms. There appear to be huge electrical grid interface
panels on the walls of the building. The dangling electrical power cord
with the plug just hanging there is a nice subtle touch. I'll have to
remember that one for my next alt.snakeoil video.
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Just my impressions from the video.


Now I, Stefan,  posted an answer to this also there:

Hi TK, I had another look at this databoard pciture in this video you mentioned...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bA2OMRcxKo


There was 11.376 rad/sec, that means 1.81 Hz , so almost 2 Revs per second of the motor, meaning it was spinning at 108,6 RPM...

and there were these 2 different voltages and 2 different Amps readings...

Target Iq (Ia)= 78,125 Amps Probably the output current as Ia mostly means Output current.
Also there was Iq ( Ia)=76,3125 Amps and there were 2 different voltages:
Ud( Uf)= 20,125 Volts and Uq( Ua)=49,125 Volts.


So I guess the Ua is the Output voltage... ( Also in German language Ua means always Ausgangsspannung ( translated Output Voltage, maybe they had German measurement equipment)
So if we multiply Ua x Ia = 49.125 Volts x 78.125 Amps we get:
3837,89 Watts of Output power....
So at least we are in the 3 to 4 KWatts range...So I wonder, what they have powered with this output power then ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2019, 11:19:02 PM »
I don´t yet know, if Russ will go there or not...
He would probably need some invitation from IEC...
I only heard from Karl´s postings, that  his NASA wants to go there and make some tests...but when this should happen, I don´t know yet...Unfortunately the Chatoptiosn there with this disqurs plugin are pretty limited at the messages are very mixed up there, so it is hardto follow the single threads....
If I will find new informations there, I will post them also here...Regards, Stefan.


Stefan
 It is hard to find specific information on the third-party lab test
 Do you have a link to when this will be scheduled and what lab will be doing the test?
 We have persons who could possibly attend a public demonstration.
 And perhaps even bring appropriate equipment .


 Also I know Russ is out that way,.....however I believe he has some “concerns “ in his life right now that might effect him scheduling things.


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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2019, 12:46:08 PM »
Tinselkoala has a fear of free energy devices and seems to have a particular bias against magnetic powered engines. A phobia, if you will, that the acceptance of free energy by the masses will lead to economic collapse along with the death and destruction of all he holds dear. This observation by me is based on numerous public postings he has made over the years. It's not bias based on his personal attacks against me. Just read his attacks on this one engine.

TK, you might as well give up. Magnet motors are real and they are are about to be proven to everyone beyond doubt.

Mad Mack

It's just hilarious to check that comments in that post.
I read all the post in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bA2OMRcxKo from him, and it looks like a scratched disk, relating the content of their response with that already displayed on other occasions.There is no genuine interest in understanding how the device works, but rather attacking with the usual arguments that are impossible, or that are deceiving people or make people spend time and money.
 
After reading this quote I think he took a pistol and shot himself in the foot.

“And you know me well enough already to know whether or not my mind is closed to new discoveries? On the contrary, I am a scientist -- do you understand what that means, I wonder -- and my whole being is about new discoveries--”   Ohh TK is a  scientist!!!!! but ….  he say ….

And please do not "appeal to authority" by mentioning your NASA friend again. Scientists are absolutely the easiest people to fool, bar none. It takes special training and experience to detect the kind of fraud that is my special area of research, and a scientist who is used to encountering truth and accuracy in all things is the perfect foil.

To someone that not believe in device : “Let me ask you something in all seriousness. What is the moral position of an individual or company that has a free universal power source but wants to keep it secret and uses it only for profit -- while thousands of children die every single day in this world, from starvation, dysentery, warfare and other easily preventable causes, all due to lack of a cheap universal source of power? "


Is this a comedy? At least it brings good mood.
Let's wait because we should have news soon, and not ear this crap attack .

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2019, 03:48:49 PM »
I see here Mr.Walsh mentions perhaps the timeline is a few more weeks.?sorry if this had been posted here already ,the comments from Dansies forum are hard to follow.
I do have some contacts which were forwarded to me ,I'll try to make those calls early next week  and see about getting someone there who could possibly be viewed as an asset [by the principles] to this investigation as well as get a feel for what will be done at the test ...and will any tests [equipment] be forbidden?

to note
Member Wesley has postulated a controversial  power source for kapanadze device [transmitted from elsewhere]


Walsh quote
""This is why in a few weeks a world-renowned NASA/SpaceX energy systems consultant will be doing the definitive 3rd party testing that many have requested. This fellow has already confirmed the motor is a closed system with no external power source. Now he and his team will measure precisely how much power it can generate, and for how long (up to several days). And when this fellow with decades of experience gives it his approval, the world’s largest aerospace companies will stand up and take notice.""
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//respectfully//Chet K