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Author Topic: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas  (Read 26835 times)

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2019, 01:57:09 PM »
i'd say let them do the planed test installs and  wait  how this turns out. If they realy install 20-30 units ,
we will hear about it i think. Non the less not much on the technical side to look at the moment.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2019, 10:22:59 PM »
Karl added:

Yes, there are three operational demo motors at their 40,000sf Scottsdale facility, and several more being assembled for commercial installation soon. They’ve let many hundreds of people see the motors, including a group of Wash DC politicians who will see it this Friday. That said, IEC runs a tight ship in a secure environment, and they just don’t let in anyone who knocks on the door. If you own a large biz and are a potential customer, or you’re an investor, they’ll show you around. But if you’re just a curious lookyloo, they don’t have time for that.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2019, 10:24:04 PM »
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It’s only logical the first customers for the motors are friends and their network of associates. How would someone in the remote oil sands of Canada hear if the motor? The first installations are not About making money. They are to test the motor in real world spplicatiobs to iron out the bugs. The IEC folks live in AZ and NV so that’s where the first motors are going in. One is currently being installed at a furniture factory in Phoenix, followed by an automated dairy operation near Salt Lake City, then a fish farm in WY, and then a remote oil well near Farmington, NM. The company headquarters includes a control room capable of cloud-based monitoring of 2,000+ motors worldwide. These first test installs aren’t even a tiny drop in the bucket of what’s to come.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2019, 10:25:26 PM »
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Others here have stated that a monopole magnet could indeed create such an amazing motor. Do you disagree and, if so, why? The Slingshot analogy is only that the asymmetrical magnets pass each other and propel the flywheel to ever greater speeds. You can repeat until your ears turn blue that the magnets don’t have enough power, but the fact is they do, and it is so easily provable. Would like a piece of the wager that I’m hopefully going to make with ngepro? The more the merrier!

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2019, 10:37:09 PM »
  Stefan Hartmann:

  Hi Karl,many thanks for all the reports and all your pictures.,
Don´t fall for all the annoying skeptics...these are mostly "keyboard acrobats"..lol..
Maybe you can convince the company to release a new video, where they will show a real 10 to 25 KWatts load like a lamp bulb bank being powered by the motor. That would be really great..
Many thanks in advance.Regards, Stefan. 
  Karl Walsh:  That’s a good idea Stefan. I will see them this Friday and will try to remember to bring it up. However we both know that no matter what an undoctored video might shows however, many of the folks here will cry ‘fraud!’ Which is fine, because the only folks IEC cares about convincing are the end users who sign the PPA agreement. But what will the skeptics say after motors have been installed at 30 businesses and there are 30 happy biz owners? That will be a satisfying moment indeed.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2019, 11:20:09 PM »
Here is another witness:


Hi Matt.  I can tell that you do have a great deal of knowledge when it comes to this topic and I resepect that.  It must be quite frustrating when you see “another scam” come along. 
I have some sincere questions for you and I don’t ask them to be argumentative or in an attempt to lead you anywhere.  So please accept them at face value, understanding that unfortunately I am NOT an expert in the field of magnets. 
Firstly, if a monopole magnet did exist, would the Earth Engine be possible?
And secondly, would it be possible to fake a monopole magnet?
I ask these questions because they were my starting point when I was first exposed to the Earth Engine.  After signing the NDA I watched video demo’s of a monopole magnet.   While what I saw was mind boggling, I have become quite cauloused in this world of fake boobs (had to throw that in) and Hollywood movie trickery,  and I was still somewhat disbelieving.   Then I saw the in-person demo’s using a monopole magnet and a razor blade.  Karl shared a picture from a similar  demo, and described perfectly the same thing I witnessed.  I didn’t actually manipulate the razor blade—it seemed unnecessary given what I was seeing.  I was in a group of about twelve people who are much, much brighter than I am, and part of what I witnessed was them asking Dennis to do things I hadn’t thought to ask, and also they themselves experimenting with the razor blade and magnet.
During the demo I looked around the room and noticed many jaws were on the ground.  One well-dressed engineer from India whose accent I could barely understand, simply stared, chin in hand, eyes big as saucers.  The look on some faces was akin to that of an atheist who was actually seeing the face of God. 
Because many brilliant people have been duped over the years, I’m somewhat embarrassed to admit that that experience of seeing the demo first-hand, and witnessing a group of brilliant minds experiencing the same “what the..???” feelings I was experiencing,  is what caused me to write a fatter check than I originally had in mind. 
It is still hard for me to believe, and at times I question my basis for making my investment (that this really is different because of the monopole magnet!)
And so, after all that blah, blah, blah I ask again—
1. If a monopole magnet existed would it open your mind to the EE’s veracity?
2.  Can you conceive of a way a monopole magnet could be easily faked?
Thanks Matt.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2019, 08:10:42 AM »
Here is my VIDEO to showing how the magnetism works in the IEC generator..

 Video title is "Magnet Flux Block for IEC Earth Engine"

 
Script under my video is posted here also:

Making magnets that are NOT bi-polar as in conventional way it is possible to make magnets behave in unconventional way. IEC has a different method as the magnets have flux only on one side. The flux is routed as not escaping  beyond contained area..  Science is missing the macro method and only focusing on micro flux method of writing magnetic domains such as "spinwaves" on micro-scale..
As conventional "electro-dynamic" model also says that magnetism is all the same, electrical generated magnetism is VERY different from a permanent magnetic flux... Magnetic spin is found only in  permanent magnets. Some permanent magnets have multi-spin vortexes depending on the elemental composition.
 
Link to My Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksltXUWRvh4
 
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2019, 07:03:29 PM »
Here is my VIDEO to showing how the magnetism works in the IEC generator..

 Video title is "Magnet Flux Block for IEC Earth Engine"

 
Script under my video is posted here also:

Making magnets that are NOT bi-polar as in conventional way it is possible to make magnets behave in unconventional way. IEC has a different method as the magnets have flux only on one side. The flux is routed as not escaping  beyond contained area..  Science is missing the macro method and only focusing on micro flux method of writing magnetic domains such as "spinwaves" on micro-scale..
As conventional "electro-dynamic" model also says that magnetism is all the same, electrical generated magnetism is VERY different from a permanent magnetic flux... Magnetic spin is found only in  permanent magnets. Some permanent magnets have multi-spin vortexes depending on the elemental composition.
 
Link to My Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksltXUWRvh4
 
Acca
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Hi Acca, the only thing in my view, what you shown, is that you you magnetized these iron cylinders with more field strength, so they have now remanence and behave now as single weak bar magnets...You did this just by closing the magnetic circle....

The IEC Earth Engine is build differently... just had a closer look again at their website and they have a total of 4 discs, the upper 2 spin rightways and the lower 2 discs spin leftways around... Between these 2 pairs sit 90 degree wheels that rotate in a 90 degree plane and probably have magnets in itsself and are probably geared somehow to the other discs, so the upper and lower 2 pair of discs with the magnets repell all each other all in total...
All further analysation has to wait until we will get clearer videos.... Regards, Stefan.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2019, 07:59:57 PM »
Karl added:

They didn’t want any testing experts snooping around until all the IP was filed.  Now that has all happened they will be doing the testing very soon.  They are much more focused on installing the motors however. For that is the ultimate proof, that it performs in a real world commercial setting. And they are currently producing one motor per week, which is no easy feat considering each motor is comprised of 1,422 separate parts – – all made in house.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2019, 08:16:41 PM »
Karl added this:

 I’ve heard a second motor in Vegas is now operational, with #6 being installed any day now at a furniture factory in Phoenix. Last week I posted this photo of the motor shrink-wrapped, palletized and awaiting the delivery truck.


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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2019, 09:53:18 PM »
Here is my VIDEO to showing how the magnetism works in the IEC generator..

 Video title is "Magnet Flux Block for IEC Earth Engine"

 
Script under my video is posted here also:

Making magnets that are NOT bi-polar as in conventional way it is possible to make magnets behave in unconventional way. IEC has a different method as the magnets have flux only on one side. The flux is routed as not escaping  beyond contained area..  Science is missing the macro method and only focusing on micro flux method of writing magnetic domains such as "spinwaves" on micro-scale..
As conventional "electro-dynamic" model also says that magnetism is all the same, electrical generated magnetism is VERY different from a permanent magnetic flux... Magnetic spin is found only in  permanent magnets. Some permanent magnets have multi-spin vortexes depending on the elemental composition.
 
Link to My Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksltXUWRvh4
 
Acca
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Here is my posting about your video posted on E-Cat


This video is total rubbish! I'm annoyed with myself because I actually watched this thing to the end. He says nothing, nothing at all. First, he spends most of the video demonstrating that the magnetic field is flowing through the two steel keepers. What did he expect? Second, he lightly magnetizes two steel rods and is amazed that turned one way they attract and when turned the other they lightly repeal each other. No monopoles here. Amazing how 100+ years of science missed this? Guass just did a full roll in his grave.

It's quite possible that IEC may have found a way to build an asymmetric (or monopolar) magnet per the Sussex University work. I have an open mind on this.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2019, 10:41:25 PM »
Karl added:

 I first met the Earth Engine folks at a conference in Las Vegas last July. If it was a scam, I thought it was very ballsy of them to show it in public like that. They’ve now displayed the motor at three public trade-shows in Vegas and Orlando. In a public convention convention with thick concrete floors, there is literally no way to drill holes for secret power cables. Everything about the motor was in plain view—except for the brains contained in a little black box they call the ‘accelerator.’ Some of you think the IEC scam must be to collect investors money and then leave town. What I haven’t mentioned here is the first motors are being installed in  companies owned by investors. So that would mean investors are defrauding themselves? That doesn’t make any sense. Next scam theory, anyone?
Thanks, but I’m not aware of any red flags to the business model. And I’ve been a pretty successful businessman. Yesterday they met with a large supermarket chain which wants to go green and save money. Tell me how this chain is going to get ripped off. I understand you cannot wrap your head around the idea that the motor actually works, and the executive team are both brilliant and honest people. That’s okay. There’s been a motor running commercially in Las Vegas since January. The biz is owned by a wealthy IEC investor. He says he’s happy with the performance to date. Why on earth would he lie and defraud himself? That would defy common sense. Oh, and 5-figure investments are not accepted. Conquering the world takes a big operation and big bucks.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2019, 10:43:09 PM »
Karl added:

They didn’t want any testing experts snooping around until all the IP was filed.  Now that has all happened they will be doing the testing very soon.  They are much more focused on installing the motors however. For that is the ultimate proof, that it performs in a real world commercial setting. And they are currently producing one motor per week, which is no easy feat considering each motor is comprised of 1,422 separate parts – – all made in house.
Of course there are test results. They have been doing load testing for several years. Sorry if I came across was rude, that wasn’t my intention. What they are doing very soon is much-needed independent testing. And you are very correct in pointing out that I’m not a scientist or salesman. I am simply passing on info to you folks because it is fun. And if it becomes a drag, of if you want me to stop, I’ll be happy to. And they don’t need money, as they recently concluded a successful 8-figure funding round. The next round, assuming it’s even needed, will be at a 9-figure valuation ($100MM+).

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2019, 10:46:06 PM »
Karl added:Thanks, but I’m not aware of any red flags to the business model. And I’ve been a pretty successful businessman. Yesterday they met with a large supermarket chain which wants to go green and save money. Tell me how this chain is going to get ripped off. I understand you cannot wrap your head around the idea that the motor actually works, and the executive team are both brilliant and honest people. That’s okay. There’s been a motor running commercially in Las Vegas since January. The biz is owned by a wealthy IEC investor. He says he’s happy with the performance to date. Why on earth would he lie and defraud himself? That would defy common sense. Oh, and 5-figure investments are not accepted. Conquering the world takes a big operation and big bucks.
 Sorry but it’d just look too weird if suddenly I start showing up with all these testing gadgets. My aerospace friend will soon be doing several days of sequestered, lockdown testing to get definitive measurements on everything. The friend is well-acquainted with flywheels and neodymiums which are used in his satellite projects. And since the monopole effect completely blew his mind, I’m sure he’ll be closely examining the magnetic fields as well.
       

 

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