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Author Topic: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas  (Read 38078 times)

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #150 on: June 10, 2019, 07:46:19 AM »
So, is everyone convinced that the IEC devices don't work, Or that it was simply a bad demonstration that proved nothing.
I am asking because there is an interesting effect when the magnets are embedded into steel as a repelling ramp because the pushing magnet that causes the rotation is actually attracting into the repelling magnets and the ramp is still rotating without the repelling forces.

This itself is not that interesting except that when the controlling magnet is re-gated, it does so in attraction which takes less effort than when exposing under repelling forces.
Is that the secret that allows the IEC machines to operate?

Maybe it was intentional to have a mystical / just take my word for it demo, to delay any others progress?

My personal opinion is that this company has everything working. Their demonstration is more likely to declare itself than to reveal the technology. The peculiarity is that the company does not sell products, it provides the energy of its installations to the consumer. Nobody paid attention to such trifles. They clearly defined the market for themselves: remote areas where there are no extensive energy networks.
However, they do not sell installations and do not seek to uncover the technology. They declared themselves, I think in remote areas where these installations without fuel will provide energy to the consumer, through the meter will not violate the rules of the consumer market. they just teach us that even free energy needs to be bought. If you agree with these? You can apply it.
Personally, I have my own idea of ​​how this works for them, since it is in this direction that I study and develop.

This installation of Turkish engineers, for some reason did not cause a stir. Probably already working somewhere and it is possible that someone pays for electricity from this installation, without even knowing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQa206Zn14c

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #151 on: June 10, 2019, 07:42:40 PM »
Is it dead already? However, Crystal is spinning away, but is it? I managed to directly download the delivered segments of video in .ts format (you have to be quick, the links expire fast). I did that over the last few days at different times of day. When opened in a video player and compared to each other, it turns out that every segment is 10 seconds long, shows the exact same 5 rounds after a jump where about 2 frames are skipped (probably due to unprecise editing of the loop), and every single frame is alike pixel by pixel. You can even see it in the "live" stream, when there is a tiny jump in the spokeswheel effect every 5 revolutions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvRL2S4YNRA

What you see here are 10 video segments, aligned behind each other and toggled through. This can be done with every single frame of the 10 seconds video segment, downloaded directly from the stream over a period of three days.



  Matt34 minutes ago  I was looking at the "live stream" yesterday and also thought it looked like a loop. Also, when I press pause on my screen, the video freezes on a frame. Then when I resume play, it starts from that particular frame, not as if it were rejoining a live streaming feed. I agree: not a live stream.


 Matt8 hours ago  Matt - I've also occasionally looked at what's claimed to be a live stream, and seen the jumps. Of course, you can have a loop running feeding the live-stream rather than sending a short section of loop to be played locally. Maybe they'll re-edit the loop now you've mentioned it, in the same way as they initially sent a 10-second loop initially and changed it to "live stream" once you'd noted it.
Overall, a pretty amateur attempt at "proving" the thing is running. I wonder who they are really trying to convince. Someone within IEC must have realised that this is happening by now, and that they aren't really working for a company with a world-changing invention. 


Stefan Hartmann   Yes, it was probably only a loop, probably to save bandwidth, but that is really bad lying , as it is NOT LIVE !
Why did they at all keep such a looped live feed ? , when the last demo was already obviously a failure ???


We wanna see the big motors powering up a toaster at least live !!

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #152 on: June 14, 2019, 03:12:50 AM »
Has anyone put any thought into how the real units are working?

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #152 on: June 14, 2019, 03:12:50 AM »
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #153 on: June 14, 2019, 12:22:12 PM »
So far all I see is a battery powered flywheel.
I've built lots of those.
You can build one without the battery, just a cap bank , solar cell.
Mine ran until it got cloudy, and I was powering over 60 leds,.
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #154 on: June 16, 2019, 10:40:47 PM »
So it looks like things will continue!

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #154 on: June 16, 2019, 10:40:47 PM »
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #155 on: July 02, 2019, 03:01:26 AM »
I can't wait to see the next installment...if there is one.  It is quite possible they will claim the MIB made them shut down, etc.  I agree with Stefan that a much better, more convincing demo, could have been made using supercaps totally discharged...and then charged up to a known value with a meter on them to see if it is adding or losing energy during the tests.  IF there was any real energy at all coming out of this device, those caps would show an increase in charge. 


ANY "Free Energy" device demonstrated using a battery pack makes me dubious.


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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #156 on: July 02, 2019, 05:38:30 AM »
The part that I don't get is why are they using the demo device for the demonstrations and not one of those new models that put out 7.5 kw.
There should be no doubt in those measurements.

It's like they're stalling for more time by showing the older prototype machine in tiny steps and almost no power output.
I hope the newly installed generator and upgrades are able to provide some proven output over input.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #157 on: July 02, 2019, 06:20:51 PM »
I think they are interested in intrigue! Judging from the speeches of company executives, their device is already working on at least one facility in Arizona. The best advertisement is a demonstration of your product on a real object, with the recall of the owner. All demonstrations. for the sake of demonstration of the product game of intrigue!
The fact that an interesting solution is visible, but the implemented system, the consumer, with his recall, would be the best advertising company.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #158 on: July 03, 2019, 09:46:10 PM »
Is preparing for demonstrations 7.5 kilowatt facility in Italy (on the basis of magnetic motor nebezizvestnogo Turk)

https://www.dambros.com/hmsb-motor-test-event/

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The test anticipates the continuous running of the HMSB motor for 3 days (72 hours).
To guarantee the utmost clarity and honesty of the test and in order not to have any dispute on the measurements, the test will consist in in the heating of a water boiler of 1,000 liters. This storage, at 65°C will release the water with a well defined thermal jumper.

To read the produced energy, a calories counter to measure the water delivery, the inlet and the outlet temperatures will be connected in order to calculate the produced kW. In addition to the calories counter, a water counter will be also installed so as to have a comparison measure.

Two electric counters, designed to measure the actual kW produced/consumed, will be installed between the power supply from the HMSB Motor and the electric heaters of the storage tank.
All the data will be collected and stored with a data logger and interfaced with a computer for subsequent analysis.

HMSB Motor produce:
Power: 7,5 kW
Energy produced:
7,5 kWh  hour
180 kWh  day
5.400 kWh month
65.700 kWh year

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #158 on: July 03, 2019, 09:46:10 PM »
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #159 on: July 03, 2019, 10:31:43 PM »
Is preparing for demonstrations 7.5 kilowatt facility in Italy (on the basis of magnetic motor nebezizvestnogo Turk)

https://www.dambros.com/hmsb-motor-test-event/
That thing in Italy has nothing to do with IEC, it's allegedly based on the Yildiz magnet motor, and you forgot to mention it costs the not trivial sum of EUR 1222 VAT included, non refundable, just to attend.
 As someone that followed the Steorn Saga turned blunder from August 2006 to the bitter end in 2017 with the catastrophe of the Orbo "products" and still in touch through FB with a Sean McCarthy booted from Steorn, who is currently making a living off betting on poker sites and mining coins (with servers notoriously NOT powered by ORBO), I should know better than still let myself attracted to this kind of "stuff", for not using a harsher word.

I attempted to get myself in contact with IEC, to no avail, also with the Las Vegas customer, to no avail.

I am always hoping to be surprised, but in the case of magnet motors, I learnt the truth the hard way, and I am not going to fall for it again.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #160 on: July 04, 2019, 07:25:42 AM »
It doesn't matter, Americans, Italians or others. The American demonstration is a complete failure. They did not show their real design model #30 (25 kW) with the connected load that the manual demonstrated in in its video on YouTube. My assessment works. Two self-sufficient electric motors with magnets, with flywheel Rotor. At the same time, the non-contact electromagnetic transmission of torque to the generator shaft is very successful. "Crystal" - a pitiful semblance of their motor.  I think their first idea was a real demonstration, but as always," someone " changed the idea and turned it into a clown lair.  Let's see what the Italians offer for demonstration. And the most interesting thing is that 7.5 kW is the power consumption of the average household.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #161 on: July 05, 2019, 11:18:00 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yf6GyamSKw 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikP6n0YYG-A
 demonstration. And the most interesting thing is that 7.5 kW is the power consumption of the average household.
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #162 on: July 05, 2019, 02:47:46 PM »
I had seen the livestream earlier but I’d like watching paint dry. Nothing really telling of what is happening. The presentation was more informative, at least I got from there the website of the company making the motor. The involvement of Gaia, on the other hand, for me is like a sure deal and stamp of scam, but I withhold judgement for the time being. If you see the description of the streaming YouTube categorized it as “videogames”, so, this could all end up being just another viral marketing stunt.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #163 on: July 06, 2019, 02:17:14 PM »
The test of the HMSB at "dambros.com" was ended, as the HMSB broke ...
See:  HMSB reports that the engine broke after 6 hours and 45 minutes without load, in agreement with GAIA and the D’Ambros company will carry out a new test at the D’Ambros site on August 3 -4 and 5 ,,,
detais are here: https://www.dambros.com/en/

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #164 on: July 06, 2019, 04:24:59 PM »
The test of the HMSB at "dambros.com" was ended, as the HMSB broke ...
See:  HMSB reports that the engine broke after 6 hours and 45 minutes without load, in agreement with GAIA and the D’Ambros company will carry out a new test at the D’Ambros site on August 3 -4 and 5 ,,,
detais are here: https://www.dambros.com/en/

Felix


I wonder how much was the booty, I mean, how many goofs, I mean customers, got ripped off, I mean, payed their “EUR 1222, VAT included non refundable” ticket.

 

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