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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #105 on: May 17, 2019, 02:06:46 PM »
Lets get real here.  If the "Plastic" engine can produce 500 W indefinitely, lets just ask ourselves some questions.Why don't they show a constant load on it. 
Why the funky generator with a magnetic coupled small flywheel generator?  I suspect that any mechanical load and the generator would not start.
The mechanical "snifter" that only operates one pulse per revolution?  Why?  Why not every segment of the "motor".
Why aren't they charging the battery off the motor?I believe they said that the small flywheels on the generator is needed to balance loading or control the surges on the generator.  Why?
Why cant the generator be driven directly/mechanically by the big flywheel? 
It would be nice to see the wheel start.  See how long it takes to come up to speed.  That would be some indication and you could easily calculate the energy and power of each pulse.The counter rotating generator 'big" wheel is a work of art. But power?  Don't know, they don't show.   Simply take it out in the middle of a parking lot or out in the desert, power up a Big set of Mercury Vapor Lights and stream that for 24 hr.. I have grave concerns for any investors as of now.  If you can afford to invest, I guess that being Nevada, you can afford to loose it. I guess I'm just rambling on about what I think when I watch the video.
 



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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #106 on: May 17, 2019, 06:17:33 PM »
Matt  Karl We can't even tell if it's running 24/7 for months because there is no clock or anything visible. This demo lacks so many things, it's worthless and proves absolutely nothing.
I answered:
Yes, this 4 camera view demo is useless... They should have better made a new video about the Crystal machine and explained its functions and at least have shown a load like an LED bulb or something simular... Or why not just hook up the Modell 30 to the Schneider Electric Inverter and show it run a 120 Volts AC load like a toaster or something simular  and show, how the motor reacts to the load....This way the Crystal machine Live demo is useless....

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #107 on: May 19, 2019, 12:09:52 AM »
I am just going to respond in whole as to some of the very intelligent comments and questions in regard to Magnetic Propulsion. There are a few facts that you need to know about when and how I will respond, and on what subjects I will comment on.

First, I am not a "believer" in "over unity", and I have never experienced anything close to perpetual motion. For the most part, I am a classically trained engineer and for the first twenty four years of my practice, I worked on the refining side of oil and gas, mainly in polymers and composite design. I was focused on laboratory work in olefins and polyesters.

My lifelong obsession with magnetics began as a child, and I started working on Magnetic Propulsion in 2009 when some rare earth magnets became low cost enough for me to afford access to those products. I started laboratory work on the Engine and its components in 2010. I started working floor models in mid 2011.

My background is that of a trained industrial engineer, and I did complete grad work in product development at MIT/Sloan in 2009. I am not a physicist, but I can keep pace with most of the post doctoral discussions in regard to magnetics over the last 10 years. The vast majority of my career time has been in a laboratory development environment.

I do like the name "magnetics" as it applies to magnetism as an applied science that studies magnetic fields and magnetic radiation paths in relation to opposing and attracting magnetic fields. In other words, I have little interest at this time in measures and experimenting with magnetic fields working on a conductor.

I will not be responding in any way to my posts. They are for information only and not intended to start a conversation. My posts are not intended to inform you on how Magnetic Propulsion works in detail, or that I need to "prove it" to anyone on these types of message boards. The information is not greatly detailed, as I have little extra time in my life, but I do want to casually inform as many people as possible.

The Earth Engine, which is based on Magnetic Propulsion, functions from the force developed by a paired magnetic field. The magnetic field STARTS and ACCELERATES the flywheel on its own force, once attenuated. Most of our flywheel combinations are greater than 800 kg.

What I have developed, after many years of laboratory work, was based on the Szilard paper of 1929. Leo Szilard, through the work he left behind, has taught me a great deal. Here is a link to the paper that I made my life's work (outside of my career):

http://www.sns.ias.edu/~tlusty/courses/InfoInBio/Papers/Szilard1929.pdf

My development is the control of entropy in the system. The applied science of Magnetic Propulsion first diminishes the point of entropy and then uses that entropy to ACCELERATE the flywheel in what we call a "slingshot".

Entropy in my system occurs at only one point in the rotation of the flywheel. This has taken me years to calculate and refine. Let's say at 350 degrees as an example, entropy is at maximum (force in the opposite direction of the desired direction). So from 0 to 358 the flywheel is being pushed and accelerates continuously. Now, obeying all physical laws, if I did not control entropy, the flywheel would slow and eventually stop.  At 359 degrees I have developed a way to attenuate the magnetic field that is already "lopsided" or asymmetrical. The flywheel then makes it past the reversing force and then enters the "slingshot" and then the flywheel, using the opposing force greatly accelerates from 359 to about 15 degrees.

There are only two fields opposing at a time. One from the attenuation section (what we call fuel), and the flywheel magnetic field (what we call receptors). There are no electromagnets, or any device coupling to the flywheel. It is a zero contact device that is also magnetically levitated.

Attenuation of the field is accomplished through the bending of the paired fields. This is a major breakthrough. We keep both the geometry (shape) and geography (where the magnetic fuel is placed)(the pattern).

On the laboratory device "Crystal" you can see the firing of the attenuation device every 360 degrees. It consumes about 20 watts on average per firing.

Crystal has a 100 watt alternator rectified to 24 volts. It is also magnetically driven.

Crystal was built SOLELY to prove the applied science of Magnetic Propulsion. The simple fact that two magnetic fields produce a force, and when harvested, that force can spin a flywheel. That flywheel can then charge a battery or capacitor.

Now, here are some very important facts;

1. Crystal is NOT a dynamic motor. Magnetic Propulsion is not dynamic (instant) in its power delivery. It is inertia. It delivers power (which can then spin a generator) by accelerating a flywheel and storing that energy. You cannot in any way hook a dynamic load to a Magnetic Propulsion Engine. It will just stop, and it will stop quickly.

2. Magnetic Propulsion Engines work by creating inertia in a very specialized flywheel (some 257 parts) that refuse to magnetize in the presence of a large and powerful magnetic field. Once to speed (125 to 350 RPM) you have a great way to harvest kinetic energy by spinning an alternator. The alternator is not allowed to exceed a specific load, based on its affect on inertia. This is also a closely held trade secret. Think of it as a very large electrical "pump".

3. Magnetic Propulsion requires STORAGE. A battery or capacitor. You can charge 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

4. Magnetic Propulsion requires a BATTERY or CAPACITOR for its parasitic energy to run its attenuation section. But this is only about 20W p/s at 60 RPM. So the battery is very small.

5. Crystal's flywheel weighs in at 622 LBS where our commercial Engine flywheels are just over 4,000 LBS.

6. Magnetic Propulsion is not "over unity" or perpetual motion. It receives its power from over 5,000 PSI of pressure from an accelerated magnetic field. My developed magnetic fuel has "pull forces" (a common measure used in magnetism) of over 10,000 Pounds. This type of force requires not only great safety procedures but has also led to great breakthroughs in the handling of these very powerful magnets.

This coming week, IEC will be producing a complete explanatory broadcast program called "Introduction to Magnetic Propulsion" which will air on www.earthenginelive.com. It will be broadcast live and then repeated at specific times during the day. Broadcast times will be announced this coming Monday morning on the IEC Website (www.ie.energy) and on www.earthenginelive.com.

The program will take you through the entire Magnetic Propulsion Cycle and introduce our new transparent control panel with consumption and output meters (compliments of AccuEnergy).

I sincerely hope that you will tune in !

I hope that my addition to this Board is helpful. I sincerely hope that you will stay tuned in and learn more about IEC and Magnetic Propulsion.

In closing, I also know that I am inviting biting comments, and negative, maybe even slanderous statements. That's OK at this point, but you should know that I really do not care. Your negatives will have zero impact on my earnings or my work product. However, your thoughtful criticisms and ideas may help you be a part of the hard work and dedication to the dozens of people working at IEC, which is growing in number monthly.

Thank you for your Time and Interest !

And please refrain from comments on spelling, typos and grammar, (none of us have that kind of time for these Boards)!

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #107 on: May 19, 2019, 12:09:52 AM »
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #108 on: May 19, 2019, 10:56:00 PM »
I wonder, if they don´t show a KWatts output in public, because they want to stimulate much flame wars between skeptics and supporters, so that
this topic goes Viral on the Internet ??

Maybe that is just a trick to get people talking about it ?

Maybe they thought, "we will not show the real output, until so many machines are sold"

Otherwise they could just show the output via their coupled Schneider Electric inverters...

If the asymmetric "Magnetic fuel" really works and can proprell the flywheels and can store enough energy,then it should be easy to extract a few KWatts maybe not for too long, but maybe a few minutes or half an hour,until the load peaks are over and only lower power is required and drawn....

Well, we will see, if really a few good measurement guys will go there and have a look or Mr. Danzik will post a new video ,
where we can see a real load on the motor, that will produce a claimed output power...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #109 on: May 19, 2019, 11:08:28 PM »
Stefan//I have been very busy  helping my friend down in NYC area [serious illness] last few months.

Mr.Danzik, I know there have been plenty of suggestions for testing ,Would you allow an onsite black box energy audit ... by qualified persons ?
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #110 on: May 20, 2019, 01:15:35 AM »
Have patience. There are many highly qualified individuals vetting the science over the next few months starting Tuesday of this week, and there will be several follow up news articles.

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« Reply #111 on: May 20, 2019, 03:36:16 AM »
Interesting description by Mr. Danzik,I suspect that a few numbers got "futzed" up in his description.He describes the clasic "Pushing" asmetrical wheel with the "sticky Point" that we have all tried to build at one time or another.His device is just a heck of a lot bigger to start.  Then we have to get into why it works!

My lifelong obsession with magnetics began as a child, and I started working on Magnetic Propulsion in 2009 when some rare earth magnets became low cost enough for me to afford access to those products. I started laboratory work on the Engine and its components in 2010. I started working floor models in mid 2011.

My background is that of a trained industrial engineer, and I did complete grad work in product development at MIT/Sloan in 2009. I am not a physicist, but I can keep pace with most of the post doctoral discussions in regard to magnetics over the last 10 years. The vast majority of my career time has been in a laboratory development environment.

I do like the name "magnetics" as it applies to magnetism as an applied science that studies magnetic fields and magnetic radiation paths in relation to opposing and attracting magnetic fields. In other words, I have little interest at this time in measures and experimenting with magnetic fields working on a conductor.

I will not be responding in any way to my posts. They are for information only and not intended to start a conversation. My posts are not intended to inform you on how Magnetic Propulsion works in detail, or that I need to "prove it" to anyone on these types of message boards. The information is not greatly detailed, as I have little extra time in my life, but I do want to casually inform as many people as possible.  I appriciate the start here.  It gives us some inkling into how his device works.

The Earth Engine, which is based on Magnetic Propulsion, functions from the force developed by a paired magnetic field. The magnetic field STARTS and ACCELERATES the flywheel on its own force, once attenuated. Most of our flywheel combinations are greater than 800 kg. 



My development is the control of entropy in the system. The applied science of Magnetic Propulsion first diminishes the point of entropy and then uses that entropy to ACCELERATE the flywheel in what we call a "slingshot".  Entropy control is an interesting concept, I just look at it as field bending or diminishing via mechanical means thus allowing the wheel to move past the sticky point.

Entropy in my system occurs at only one point in the rotation of the flywheel. This has taken me years to calculate and refine. Let's say at 350 degrees as an example, entropy is at maximum (force in the opposite direction of the desired direction). So from 0 to 358 the flywheel is being pushed and accelerates continuously. Now, obeying all physical laws, if I did not control entropy, the flywheel would slow and eventually stop.  At 359 degrees I have developed a way to attenuate the magnetic field that is already "lopsided" or asymmetrical. The flywheel then makes it past the reversing force and then enters the "slingshot" and then the flywheel, using the opposing force greatly accelerates from 359 to about 15 degrees.
So the wheel is pushed to rotate.  IF the wheel is lopsided field wise, it has the weakest field between 355 and 359 degrees, and then the field is strongest at 0 degrees (sticky point) and you have to hide/lower/diminish or bend the attenuation section with the repulsing field temporary to get it over this point.  IF this mechanical attenuation requires less energy input than the wheel retains during one revolution, AT SPEED, you have a energy producing device.

There are only two fields opposing at a time. One from the attenuation section (what we call fuel), and the flywheel magnetic field (what we call receptors). There are no electromagnets, or any device coupling to the flywheel. It is a zero contact device that is also magnetically levitated.  The unique thing is the output is not dependent on how many "fuel" sections are available, it just spins the wheel up to a X amount of rpm. 

Attenuation of the field is accomplished through the bending of the paired fields. This is a major breakthrough. We keep both the geometry (shape) and geography (where the magnetic fuel is placed)(the pattern).  I think he mans that he doesn't move the "fuel" section, he just changes the shape of the field and therby lowers the interactive forces in the fields allowing a receptor to pass by/through the field hence getting it into a new power cycle.

On the laboratory device "Crystal" you can see the firing of the attenuation device every 360 degrees. It consumes about 20 watts on average per firing.  1 pulse/revolution, 20 watts of energy used/pulse.  At 60 RPM, you would be using 1200 watts per min. average.   That don't make sense.  More likely, at running speed of say 300 RPM, it would make sense that the average power required to run the "fuel" section attenuator would average 20 watts. 

Crystal has a 100 watt alternator rectified to 24 volts. It is also magnetically driven.  This is or has problems based on the statement in #1 below.  If the alternator is 100 watts, it is a dynamic load, whether RMS or pulse output into a diode recifier into a Cap. or a battery.  A load is a load is a load.  A mechanically coupled load is the same as a magnetically coupled load unless as he says below the load on the alternator is limited to not drain more energy out of the wheel that it has at any point in time at a given RPM.

Crystal was built SOLELY to prove the applied science of Magnetic Propulsion. The simple fact that two magnetic fields produce a force, and when harvested, that force can spin a flywheel. That flywheel can then charge a battery or capacitor.  This I understand.

Now, here are some very important facts;

1. Crystal is NOT a dynamic motor. Magnetic Propulsion is not dynamic (instant) in its power delivery. It is inertia. It delivers power (which can then spin a generator) by accelerating a flywheel and storing that energy. You cannot in any way hook a dynamic load to a Magnetic Propulsion Engine. It will just stop, and it will stop quickly. As we all have learned over the past few years!

2. Magnetic Propulsion Engines work by creating inertia in a very specialized flywheel (some 257 parts) that refuse to magnetize in the presence of a large and powerful magnetic field. Obviously the wheel should not create a load on itself due to loading from eddy currents.  That would just lower the efficiency and is the reason that magnetic bearings are used, all to lower and vertually eliminate dynamic loading.  Once up to speed (125 to 350 RPM) you have a great way to harvest kinetic energy by spinning an alternator. The alternator is not allowed to exceed a specific load, based on its affect on inertia. This is also a closely held trade secret. Think of it as a very large electrical "pump".  I suspect inertia of the spinning wheel is the secret of why this device works if it does.  As the torque generated by a spinning wheel has a velocity squared component, the output is non linear and as the speed increases.  The faster it spins, the more instantaneous energy is available vs the input energy.  Getting a spinning magnetic motor to run by eliminating the "sticky spot" was the first step.  Learning how much additional power was available from the inertia forces generated was the second step.  Controlling the amount energy taken out of the wheel without slowing it was just control programming.

3. Magnetic Propulsion requires STORAGE. A battery or capacitor. You can charge 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Probably most efficient with pulse or a pump type of charging.

4. Magnetic Propulsion requires a BATTERY or CAPACITOR for its parasitic energy to run its attenuation section. But this is only about 20W p/s at 60 RPM. So the battery is very small.I think I read that the bigger motor/generators required about 400W average to run also.  There would not appear to be any reason that this battery could be topped off by the large STORAGE battery.  Technically, it could be a large cap with an initial charge to get the thing started.  Then self charging and self running.

5. Crystal's flywheel weighs in at 622 LBS where our commercial Engine flywheels are just over 4,000 LBS.  In this case, probably bigger is better, and radius of wheel is important.

6. Magnetic Propulsion is not "over unity" or perpetual motion. It receives its power from over 5,000 PSI of pressure from an accelerated magnetic field. My developed magnetic fuel has "pull forces" (a common measure used in magnetism) of over 10,000 Pounds. This type of force requires not only great safety procedures but has also led to great breakthroughs in the handling of these very powerful magnets.  Don't get to overexcited about those PSI numbers, more important is the vector forces produced around the wheel and the resultant energy put into the wheel during each rotation. It would be very productive to show a chart of input energy, output energy and RPM's.  Would really give a hint on how it works.

This coming week, IEC will be producing a complete explanatory broadcast program called "Introduction to Magnetic Propulsion" which will air on www.earthenginelive.com. It will be broadcast live and then repeated at specific times during the day. Broadcast times will be announced this coming Monday morning on the IEC Website (www.ie.energy) and on www.earthenginelive.com.

The program will take you through the entire Magnetic Propulsion Cycle and introduce our new transparent control panel with consumption and output meters (compliments of AccuEnergy).

I sincerely hope that you will tune in !  It will be most interesting, I certainly will tune in or tune into one of the repeats.

I hope that my addition to this Board is helpful. I sincerely hope that you will stay tuned in and learn more about IEC and Magnetic Propulsion.

In closing, I also know that I am inviting biting comments, and negative, maybe even slanderous statements. That's OK at this point, but you should know that I really do not care. Your negatives will have zero impact on my earnings or my work product. However, your thoughtful criticisms and ideas may help you be a part of the hard work and dedication to the dozens of people working at IEC, which is growing in number monthly.

Thank you for your Time and Interest !  Always!

And please refrain from comments on spelling, typos and grammar, (none of us have that kind of time for these Boards)!

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #112 on: May 20, 2019, 02:51:12 PM »
Mr. Danzik has given out the gist of his engine so it should be plain that this is a viable design. The 20 watts that Crystal uses is not magically transformed into OU. Those watts are used to apply a much stronger force.

You have the rotor weight, the RPM, the magnetic force applied and the approximate degrees of rotation of that application. I don’t see the rotor diameter but it’s fairly easy to estimate. We don't have the rotor's mass distribution and some other info but there is enough to start with.

Do the math and you can estimate how many watts can be siphoned off and still maintain the desired average RPM.

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #113 on: May 20, 2019, 07:27:06 PM »
WoW that was Great Response Mr. Danzik.


So........ where is "the Koala"  ???  spoiler...
 


100 million as that what WSJ said on Friday..What a company is...this !!!


Anyone remember Ken Wheeler and all the pathetic attacks on him and his magnetic constructs .. shame on all of you..


Thanks to IEC.. I believe this will be an incredible company, and all the petty pathetic egos get a reality check.


Danzik has left  "you" on the sidelines in the dust...


I bought the WSJ and the paper located the story in the tech section second to the last page on Friday ..and that
was a big mistake or an overt effort to squash these great guys..


If you don't believe this or are you an ass because you have to prove that this is a scam this forum is NOT for You!!


Go get out and build one of your own and get 100 million too..


Acca..

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #114 on: May 21, 2019, 04:08:08 PM »
Acca: TK, Simon D. and myself have shown the many flaws (terminal ones) in the alleged operation of the IEC device.
Even Stefan has reservations.
At NO point did IEC DEMONSTRATE their claims.
Where do you see a load applied to Crystal?

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #115 on: May 21, 2019, 04:53:58 PM »
I am awaiting the  “Introduction to Magnetic Propulsion” from IEC about the Crystal.
I hope this will come soon.
This is very, very important.


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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #116 on: May 21, 2019, 06:29:37 PM »
Mr.Danzik seems well aware of the contrbutions from the
Metrologist (Tinsel) and others at Dansie’s forum.


Quite certain the coming investigations will at the very least
Cover those posted observations and concerns.


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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #117 on: May 21, 2019, 07:19:24 PM »
Ramset: there has NEVER been a properly 'vetted' demo. Crystal COULD have been made with little effort into that but wasn't.
Ask yourself: Why not?

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #118 on: May 21, 2019, 11:12:07 PM »
https://youtu.be/wS92Mm4A8a0
https://realstrannik.com/forum/attachment/27885
In general, I analyzed the information provided. The system works fine. I would call it a magnetic flywheel overclocking system. two flywheels rotate counter, brilliant. I was more pleased with the contactless removal of torque between the metal discs. Model number 30 consists of three generators of 10 kW each. 600 Volt Single Phase Generators The overclocking system is the most common impulse with recuperation. It is self-sufficient.

Sorry, but you are not looking there all. See how I looked at it. Video in Russian. https://youtu.be/hFRJLpO1tpY
Two flywheels of 900 kg at a speed of 300 rpm. This is a powerful torque. In this case, two flywheels rotate counter.
If you still make a pulse (intermittent) removal of energy ... judging from the generator control system, it is. WORKING SYSTEM.
https://sites.google.com/view/non-fuel-energy-generating/non-fuel-device?authuser=0

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« Reply #119 on: May 22, 2019, 01:55:31 AM »
To Chet,  you writing this:

"Mr.Danzik seems well aware of the contrbutions from the
 Metrologist (Tinsel) and others at Dansie’s forum."

Are you really serious about this statement  ?? as I see a different view form you..
 
"Tinsel",  here as he tying to, "OUT" a SCAM that he is convinced that this is ...
and he believes that he is the  "savior" and maybe he will be recognized as such.. here is the link to his posts..
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https://disqus.com/by/disqus_ztbFmjSU6Q/

He obviously has allot of time to devote to his posts, his discouragement of the IEC machine and as such Danzik feels that he is being attacked by him... So what is his vested interest in this IEC corporation ??? Who knows ..
Well it's always money ??... at the root of all motivation...

Attacking IEC will have lawyers after him .. and they have allot of  money.. .

Acca..

ps..

There are allot threats out there, for companies that step on BIG ENERGY interests .. SO instead of supporting these small companies the long knifes come out to destroy them.. What a shame.. for all of us...[/font]


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