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Author Topic: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas  (Read 1618 times)

Offline ramset

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IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« on: March 14, 2019, 04:35:40 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZkuteW_Q9k
ACCA posted this at another topic , I am asking a friend of the FE community in Las Vegas to  have a look

 https://ie.energy/about.html[/size][/font]
https://www.ie.energy/video/earth_engine_longform_v07-1000x428.mp4
https://www.ie.energy/video/disruptive_technology_10-10_v01.mp4
https://www.ie.energy/video/importance_of_the_team.mp4
https://www.ie.energy/video/get_involved.mp4
 
https://www.ie.energy/video/engine_introduction_conf.mp4
 
 
https://freedomfest2018.sched.com/sponsor/iec_laboratories.1y79x6bz
 
Welcome to "Where Is the Voice of Reason?" FreedomFest 2018 July 11 - 14 2018 Paris Resort Las Vegas. You are part of "the greatest libertarian show on earth." Enjoy three and half days full of learning, sharing, networking and growing the liberty movement, together!
 
 
Inductance Energy Corporation
 Inductance Energy Corporation in 2018 will complete the first commercial installations of the Danzik Magnetic Propulsion Engine – The Earth Engine. These patent-pending, 7.5-kilowatt to 25-kilowatt engines produce power through the applied science of magnetic propulsion, delivering 2,500 to over 25,000 pounds of reactive magnetic pressure to produce emissionless power for pumping, compressors, air conditioning, and electrical energy. After eight years of laboratory development, under management of noted engineer Dennis M. Danzik, the Earth Engine is now being installed in four key western States during 2018. IEC will be demonstrating commercial models of the Earth Engine at FreedomFest. .
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2019, 06:58:38 PM »
Be careful
- they have a video calling for investissors
- they have a video "imagine a clean world, without pollution thanks to us, blah, blah, blah",  it's a recurrent conditioning of the visitor that we see in all scams with this type of machine.
- the technical explanation provided does not hold water: they tell us that it is not a perpetual motion machine because the magnets at the origin of the energy lose their magnetism in a few years. But the energy required to magnetize a magnet is billions of times lower than the energy they say the machine will produce over the same number of years!

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 08:33:26 AM »
Yes I read about their machine on  their site it doesn't make sense
to use only the repulsive force. Any successful machine would

surely use attraction and repulsion at the same time.
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2019, 06:33:10 PM »
This is not a "scam" !!!


This company has made a merger with Quatum the shares are about 14 US cents..  These guys are trying to go through the public route and so far the valuation is 50 million so IEC will pay 30 million for 60 % of Quantum shares.
The insiders are buying the shares so in the in the distant future they will promote the hell of this technology to the uneducated masses  and blowout the shares that they have bought at a bottom feeder level..


So now the question is will the oil and gas and etc...Allow this to happen ? Or will this be  a set up to destroy the investors confidence an call it perpetual motion SCAM.. As the World only believes "god scientists"..


I think these guys are going to be destroyed... This will never be allowed to happen...


And that will be the end of them...


Acca...

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2019, 08:20:40 PM »
I have been busy and have not called Gary Vesperman yet ,he is an old timer in the FE community based out of Vegas now  , and he does shows on Free energy and all manner of associated techs in Las Vegas all the time .will certainly call him this week and report back.[maybe he or an associate can do an interview]
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2019, 07:01:33 PM »
So if this generator is the first one, then how did get this company get it's funding to set up this operation....?..
As this company has a very low penetration on the web.. who knows about them?
Keeping a very low exposure to the public may be a benefit as it is a contradiction to be a public owned company..
A stock grab by the insiders may be in the works as it is 14 cents...And a massive promotion will follow to spike the
the shares to a demand pool thereby followed by a massive sell off to get back all the work that expended by the principles..


Soo.. the question is what is the possible route that this will follow...??


Free energy generator for the military and governmental organizations or an utter collapse after the profits where
executed.. and  destruction...by scientists who will deny that this is possible and a  hoax will be stopped....


Just thoughts and opinions.. However the principles and the energy device is real and a great threat to World
energy cartels..  All it takes is just one black swan to prove that it is possible to have a flock of free energy devices out there...


Interesting that there was no response by you who read this overunity forum...


Acca..






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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2019, 11:58:19 PM »
So if this generator is the first one, then how did get this company get it's funding to set up this operation....?..
As this company has a very low penetration on the web.. who knows about them?
Keeping a very low exposure to the public may be a benefit as it is a contradiction to be a public owned company..
A stock grab by the insiders may be in the works as it is 14 cents...And a massive promotion will follow to spike the
the shares to a demand pool thereby followed by a massive sell off to get back all the work that expended by the principles..


Soo.. the question is what is the possible route that this will follow...??


Free energy generator for the military and governmental organizations or an utter collapse after the profits where
executed.. and  destruction...by scientists who will deny that this is possible and a  hoax will be stopped....


Just thoughts and opinions.. However the principles and the energy device is real and a great threat to World
energy cartels..  All it takes is just one black swan to prove that it is possible to have a flock of free energy devices out there...


Interesting that there was no response by you who read this overunity forum...


Acca..

Yes it is interesting but pretty much to be expected and for a multitude of reasons people OF this world don't care to discuss.

Instead let logic and reason be your guide: Without knowledge of what energy IS - people OF this world have no knowledge of what they NEED to look for to be able to find the elusive "free energy". They think they know what they WANT and chase after that blinded by their own ignorance.

They can see only that which they WANT to see - and walk on by all the rest with self imposed limited vision.

Perhaps what follows will help illuminate a very real problem faced by those OF this world claiming to be "human beings" possessed with scientific minds (LOL) which possess:

NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT ENERGY IS.

“It is important to realize in physics today we have no knowledge of what energy is.” – Richard Feynman

{pragmatism ON}

That is a statement of fact from a now deceased highly degreed expert in the science of physics.
It is compelling evidence that stands as truth which can be overcome only by other better evidence.
It is evidence that those claiming to be experts in physics are not experts on subjects involving energy.

Accepting Mr. Feynman’s statement of fact as true reasonably leads to the conclusion that people deemed to be experts in physics cannot be considered both authoritative experts and admittedly have NO KNOWLEDGE of what energy is at the same time.
The logical extension of the above leads to exposure of rampant scientific fraud that ripples throughout civilization as it is today.

That “…. Energy and Matter cannot be created nor destroyed ….” is taught to children and adults the world over as law and fact by teachers typically having lesser credentials than Mr. Feynman and those in physics all of which who have no knowledge of what energy is. Which amounts to having received an education from another who has also no knowledge of what energy is, and they are getting paid for supposedly teaching information that people need to improve their knowledge and life. (It is constructive fraud ab intio.)

The point I am trying to impress upon people is that until such time as people come to grips with the fact that you also are without exacting knowledge of WHAT ENERGY IS, you are simply rolling dice hoping to win. Unfortunately the dice are loaded in a game that is rigged to take everything you will ever have to lose, scientifically.

Fortunately: “It does not require many words to speak the truth.” – Chief Joseph

Energy is merely a word.
 
Beyond energy being just a word; anyone can understand precisely what energy is when they can complete this simple, 100% pragmatic four word sentence; as a statement of irrefutable fact.

Energy is ______  ______  .

Moreover, when this 100% pragmatic nine word sentence, also as a statement of fact is completed they will be well on their way to know the how, what, where, when and why of energy, all energy for that matter, and much more irrefutably.   

All Energy is ______  ______  ______  ______  ______  ______  .

Michael {/pragmatism off}

I "know" very little beyond what I am.

Giving you fish will not teach you to feed yourself.

Nor will academia, science, law, politics, ideology, religion, world views, etc. ever CONvert lies and ignorance to knowledge.

World energy cartels are not in the energy business at all. They are in the CONVERSION business; converting others wealth into theirs by selling products people mistake for energy, such as oil products, nuclear products, natural gas products etc. - all of which are what they really already are; fuels they take from the Earth at only the cost of production and sell at a profit, legally.
Guided by teams of shysters that assist them in cleverly skirting prosecution and take down for fraud. After all: "energy and Matter cannot be created ...." but people buy that BS also.
Living an illusion IS by choice.

Take that for what you will but understand this: To find whatever one might search for, one needs first to know what it IS that they seek. Truth is not relative.
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2019, 05:09:57 PM »
WoW I was not expecting all that !!


....and thank you very much for such a fine well thought out response as it was very shocking  that Western teaching
is at odds with the reality of proof of concept..  Like as you have seen the in the top of the links of this thread...


I was in oil exploration as well as gas and now in the magnetic application based mfg.. So I have also proof that
energy is not understood, conservation of energy is not conserved.


I will post greater response as that you deserve that...


Acca..

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2019, 09:35:03 AM »
 So here is the latest posts about the “free energy machine” from Indictance Energy Corporation.. link provide below as blog post is quite extensive about this interesting story by an insider of : Karl Walsh investor in Earth Engine..
“In fact, the first installation in Las Vegas has been operational since January and accepts visitors. Upcoming motors will soon be powering a dairy farm outside Salt Lake City and a remote oil well near Farmington, NM. The company is not being secretive. They are well-financed, are busy building out a large infrastructure to support the installation and 24/7 monitoring of thousands of motors worldwide, and see no benefit to seeking publicity at this time.”
 
 
https://revolution-green.com/earth-engine-claimed-3-years-40-kw-mechanical-energy-production-magnets/
ps the large photo is NOT reduced to show the device as it is so far the only one...

 Acca..[/font]

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2019, 10:39:11 AM »
I forgot Dansie has an office in Las Vegas ,I see they have a principle [Walsh?] interacting at his forum.seems the dollars are on the table for a full Monty investigation somewhere ??
Will Call Mark to see where that goes
ACCA's link again

https://revolution-green.com/earth-engine-claimed-3-years-40-kw-mechanical-energy-production-magnets/
 Chet





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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2019, 12:32:27 AM »
So here is the "techo-babble" as to the official explanation of "HOW THE MACHINE WORKS"...

Re-posted...


Flagship Product – The Earth Engine
The Earth Engine uses the rotary motion of a large flywheel mass (4,500 to 6,500 pounds) to induce a spin in a power ring that can produce a powerful magnetic force of up to 30,000 pounds. Think of this force as two magnets with two similar fields (North to North or South to South) “pushing” against one another.
We measure these forces at one-centimeter distance from one “fuel” segment (imbalanced magnet) to the other segment. We use the term fuel to describe our magnetic shapes, instead of the word magnet due to the fact that we imbalance the magnetic force and we do not use the attraction side of the magnetic field.
Let it be understood that IEC fuel is a depleting fuel source. In other words, over a period of time, the magnetic potential (strength) weakens over a period of many years. This magnetic potential is where the kinetic energy is gained in Magnetic Propulsion.
We “push” the large mass by controlling the magnetic field. When the two opposing fuel sources (magnetic fields) driving the flywheel mass are in the correct position, the Engine fires a small electromagnetic charge measuring about 52-watts. This charge allows the opposing fuel sources to “see” each other, and can produce significant force to spin the large flywheel mass. This rotating mass inertia is then transferred via separate magnetic coupling to a generator which produces electrical energy. This power can also be used mechanically. (Source: https://ie.energy/about.html)

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2019, 01:58:24 PM »
Here is my take on it:

This is their advertisement
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Innovative, breakthrough technologies in the applied science of magnetism
Product design, development and engineering
Intellectual property and phased plan for patent filings
World class manufacturing and supply chain management
Led by an experienced senior management team, IEC and its flagship technologies are poised to revolutionize and fulfill the growing global demand for energy.

this is reality:
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IEC has multiple patentable innovations, but will file patents in the United States and other countries as necessary to protect trade secrets for as long as possible.
These patents will be based on observable intellectual property, and all other IP will be held as trade secrets for as long as is deemed prudent. As of August 2018, IEC has filed two US patent applications as well as three trademark applications.
So they have :
- empty production  room~1800 sq meters (16200 sq ft)  with one manual lathe  maximum $25000 and 3 other pieces on machinery maximum $12000 ( used)
- rental  of   production space  is ~$4700 per month ( between 2500 and 7800  per month /depends/  in US)
-no patents and no published  yet patent application.
-trademark protected observable intellectual property
-protected trade secrets
-two  applications that will be for 1.5 year ( if i remember correctly) not accessible to the public

evaluation:
-Flywheel have not been shown under load.
-magnet doesn't give anything out and plays by its own rules as closed in within itself system.
-demagnetization  of the magnet  equals energy spend  to magnetize the domains (- earth magnets are already magnetized but must be formed)
-energy stored in flywheel  equals  energy used at the output.
-this is  America not Russia scam is punishable sooner or later.So closer look must be taken to
 grey boarder where corporate rights to form entity and close entity must NOT be associated   with fraud.
 This is  also  the statue of limitation of their corporation  and  any other corporation that may join them.
-the first sign of scam  is immediate payments of profits to team /owners in form of payroll in big numbers.
-small  amount of machinery required to make it indicates need for  space 20 times  smaller than showed on video. 
-lack of milling machine  indicates that  none of the devices have been made in shown in  video facility.   
- the owner is  old  and in  this  age it is unlikely that someone starts  manufacturing that takes years to double profit.
  so it is clear that money must come fast and now.
  That entity is NOT YET WELL FINANCED!!!!
  Money from shares if there are shares ( check  Bloomberg  to find out) goes to support early stage of technology.

They say this is no perpetual motion machine:
SO WHAT ENERGY COMES FROM?
They say this is no perpetual overunity  machine:
SO WHAT ADDITIONAL ENERGY COMES FROM?
They say this energy comes from  demagnetization of the magnets  in the  machine:
SHOULD THEY SAY : LOSS OF MAGNETIZATION  IN FLYWHEEL MAGNETS IS  AN ADDITION TO OVERALL LOSSES ??
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 no patents and no certainty of  getting one means that today any buyer can replicate it in small  scale and
40kw divided by 40  = 1kW per 1/40th of mass.
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They  are exactly  in Tariel Kapanadze  , Akula, Ruslan  position.
from the time they (will) sale the first device they will lose any chance  to any patent protection.
the device will be than replicated , sold to others for less and others will replicate it and sale it  for much less.
than the device will become commodity.
That is why Tariel has no buyers .

So their  plan is to get money from "investors" in form of shares.
But any real investor  or shareholder  will have access to public data   public  yearly report of  that corporation.

Wesley

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2019, 02:50:33 PM »
To My knowledge
nothing is for sale ,they just sell electricity ,similar to Rossi business model. Here is where they say the gain comes from [or similar] .
  https://m.phys.org/news/2018-11-defy-19th-century-law-physics.html
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Dr. Jordi Prat-Camps, a research fellow at the University of Sussex, has for the first time demonstrated that the coupling between two magnetic elements can be made extremely asymmetrical. Working with colleagues from the Austrian Academy of Sciences and University of Innsbruck, Dr. Prat-Camps' research rips up the physics rule book by showing it is possible to make one magnet connect to another without the connection happening in the opposite direction. End snip

----------------------------------------so they sell electric not units...no electricity = no income for company.
Again Acca's link to Mark Dansies Revolution Green forum where Member Karl Walsh seems quite familiar with operating MO [in discussion below article at link]  https://revolution-green.com/earth-engine-claimed-3-years-40-kw-mechanical-energy-production-magnets/  I believe Walsh interacts due to Dansie [link above] having offices in Las vegas
TO NOTE: MARK DANSIE IS NOTORIOUS SKEPTIC IN THESE FORUMS. bringing this to his house [Revolution Green forum] is quite bold.

 Also they are setting up aquarium demonstration too ,suspended in Lexan running something ..as well as independent 3rd party Lab testing .
and yes .... the real money/income probably will arrive from investor strategy... not selling electricity ...for quite some time.   IMO They should bring it to high electrical cost areas first  [NY/ New England approaches .35 KW Las Vegas commercial rate 8.43 KWH...that is fishy IMO , if your business model is making money on selling electricity ...why start in cheapest part of country first ?  other areas scheduled for units are also in Cheap KWH areas?   odd


also I have mentioned this to Russ from RWG research who is also in Las vegas .... for possible feedback .
////Chet K  PS seems a worldwide press release is coming in April ?
   

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2019, 04:28:20 PM »
To My knowledge

TO NOTE: MARK DANSIE IS NOTORIOUS SKEPTIC IN THESE FORUMS. bringing this to his house [Revolution Green forum] is quite bold.
 

 Bold? Up until a few days ago it was listed under BUNK, where it had been previously (for years). Noticed it was changed.

The site is infested with "notorious skeptics" - none of which have any knowledge of WHAT ENERGY IS.

Although perhaps Simon might ... he seems to be quite bright, and very resistant to simple truth.

The skeptic comments on RG are amusing: a favorite is between NGEpro (aka memoryman) and Mr. Walsh who shut him down nicely. LOL

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Re: IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2019, 06:37:21 PM »
I suppose if you can make money selling electricity to the cheapest KWH markets...then the world is your Oyster regardless the definition ?
I personally like it very much that they are at Dansie's forum .... an "in your face" approach hopefully as transparent as possible when testing a 6000 lb motor which could probably hold 7 million Panasonic [Tesla EV] batteries.
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According to Tesla’s own specs, the new Powerpack 2 weighs 1622 kg and has an energy capacity of 210 kWh for a pack level energy density of 130 Wh/kg.

 

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