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Title: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: ramset on March 02, 2019, 08:03:42 PM
Recent events here have lead to confusion among the membership with claims of censorship and all manner of skulduggery..
also generic questions regarding forum issues [can't post an image or??]perhaps this section which has several long time moderators could be a resource ?[until new helpers can be added ??]

members could start a topic here in this moderated resonance board and as long as its Within TOS agreement ??
An example would be today Jeg had a question in the kapanadze topic instead  he could ask here and members could talk about it and then it could be   removed by moderator once the query was satisfied ?
Example Image posting question for kapanadze thread.or Martians invading Mechanics thread ?// 
or??
after problem is resolved ,all is removed by moderators  removed from this topic not other forum areas ,that would have to be Stefan or maybe this will lead to a way to do that without Stefan [we could self govern ??]

eventually we may find we can address all forum issues if we start down that path towards better policing of ourselves and managing our needs here ?being much more independent of our host and his very limited time !!//If we get this organized we may have a weekly submission to Stefan for questions and then perhaps it will be monthly and then hopefully very limited involvement for him.and perhaps the forum can grow into what it really should be .our mission statement below.
I must add the talent and resources available here would be staggering
if we get this sorted.//
respectfully/Chet/ps if not these ideas than others ??.../please post them or start another topic ?....or leave things as they are ??/if no interests in a few days I will ask one of the moderators to remove this
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 03, 2019, 03:24:15 AM
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532058/#msg532058 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532058/#msg532058)
Ruslan is Latvian  facing strong trolling from some Russians.

Link to color comment: https://overunity.com/18143/colors-kapanadze-forum-fe-builds-circuits-and-comments/msg532053/#msg532053 (https://overunity.com/18143/colors-kapanadze-forum-fe-builds-circuits-and-comments/msg532053/#msg532053)
Quote
Communication Pizdabola DragonsLord76 and Russia TopRuslan 33 Skype with DL 01 03 2019 1.5 kW HD

I strongly protest
against user  of this  forum "color" posting
extremely vulgar comments in Russian language  such  as "piz.abola" ( word is truncated)
in address of anyone, including Ruslan Kalabuhov.
This word in vulgar language, points at female organs/sexuality and value , in the content
of brutally diminished  in vulgar  way, man superiority, making him now, a female organ like , and unlikely man.
so user color manifests:
-discrimination   
-humiliation of both genders.
-man superiority
-gender inequality
-hate
All of it is strong enough to remove this user from overunity.com forum.

This is another warning to user using nick name "color" with perfect knowledge of Russian language
posing as Korean.And by that looking for excuse to his behavior  based on possible language barrier.
Stefan  will be notified  about  this user violating again basic forms of social interaction.


Motivation of user nick name color:
User "color" could use original link to Ruslan Kalabuhov video or 
https://youtu.be/NeJJ5YojxHE (https://youtu.be/NeJJ5YojxHE)
But he decided to use copy of original video named and promoted by some Russian haters of Ruslan
widely supported by others alike .
That copy of video also use the same word but in Russian language.
In order to translate this word into English user color must  understand Russian language.
The word is not in vocabulary ,as it is humiliating vulgar slang.

Wesley


PS:Look at picture  below:
Examination  of user "color" behavior with respect  to - time frame:
1. User "color"  posted screen shot of Ruslan Kalabuchov video.
2. Title on that screenshot is in regular language used by Ruslan.
3. However user "color" posted different vulgar name and copy of the same video  that is not on that screenshot.
4. So he had  original copy, and  for some reason he did not like it.
5. We assume that he found or made vulgar copy, and he decided to post  link and vulgar name of it
    on overunity.com
6. later he saw my critical  comment, and he went back to his forum
"Color's Kapanadze forum, FE builds circuits and comments "   and he changed that what he wrote earlier,  to avoid    problems.

8. Wesley  had his original post and original screenshot saved.( look below)

    If not me and my protest , - that language with that vulgarity along with his earlier posts of similar nature would be here on overunity.com.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 03, 2019, 05:11:08 AM
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Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 03, 2019, 11:24:02 AM
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532058/#msg532058 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532058/#msg532058)
Ruslan is Latvian  facing strong trolling from some Russians.

Link to color comment: https://overunity.com/18143/colors-kapanadze-forum-fe-builds-circuits-and-comments/msg532053/#msg532053 (https://overunity.com/18143/colors-kapanadze-forum-fe-builds-circuits-and-comments/msg532053/#msg532053)
I strongly protest
against user  of this  forum "color" posting
extremely vulgar comments in Russian language  such  as "piz.abola" ( word is truncated)
...

It is amazing to see someone complaining who uses worse methods such as spreading personal information about users here, defaming them, and deleting their posts when they reply and defend themselves, even technical ones as long as they show the absurdity of the former. 

For example, the post below has been deleted several times (each time I put it back) by this censor.
These are unacceptable abuses of which we see no other motivation than annoyance and intolerance towards everything that opposes your own ideas. "I strongly protest" also  ;D

I don't think it's a good idea to allow anyone to moderate their own threads because the process is diverted by some to their advantage. The forum becomes used as a platform where they parade, promoting themselves, eliminating posts from those who respond to their personal attacks or scientific and technical nonsense.

The consequence is that the subject matter of this forum is no longer under the control of the community, and that anything can be spread there without possible contradiction on its possible falsity. This undermines the credibility of the whole.

For me, the moderators, appointed by the administrator, should act on the whole forum, but only for serious abuses in form, for example statements contrary to the laws of most countries, floading, commercial advertising, slander and defamation against other contributors, matter obviously and really out of scope (such as talking religion instead of a technical subject), the basic rule must remain free expression everywhere here.


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Example of post abusively deleted by user Stivep
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Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 03, 2019, 01:12:21 PM
Dear F6FLT . Your  post is using 
single words
and
single  phrases taken out of context.
You created new structure from words and  that structure  has nothing to do with original posts of mine.
All of it is made by  you to point at disturbing you  moderator privileges  but not scandalous user "color"
And you didn't say single word about  user "color" moral  and social  behavior at all.

And I  assume this is not important to you.
That is typical technique, used for years, by  some unfriendly to Western World  forces  of propaganda.
The original screenshot of your comment   was taken  as a prove .

In your post you are not talking about  user "color", but you using  it as a chance to revert, and redirect
conversation from user" color"  to another  not related subject matter.
 
Dear F6FLT I think you have problem with English  language.
In your country there are some good teachers  too.  I believe .
Please check meaning of word <SOME>
My comments about some individuals ( as some Russians , is as broad as some parrots, or some actors)
It only says ABOUT  CERTAIN NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS .

Wesley 
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 03, 2019, 03:21:26 PM
I'm not making excuses for 'color' but I know he uses Google Translate, I have used it my self to talk to SKOLL in french it wasn't
easy if I fed it back the other way french to English it was a mess word's I hadn't imagined came back, it was a joke translator ;D

The same in talking to Russian language Lithuwainians as well. so how do you know if Color having a typo problem or not since he
comes up with the goods, what do we do we want the info of the guy who knows the tricks or not?

I'm just here listening to the facts but ignoring the colorful metaphors  8) 8) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: ramset on March 03, 2019, 03:38:37 PM
if he poses no liability to Stefan [ follows TOS agreement]he can write until his fingers fall off ,the problem is he shows a need to break the rules

this is not a Smut site or a religious forum or political forum or Clown forum [i know some have opinions on that and FE... we're here to change that ]
Getting all of this sorted will not be easy ...but following Stefan's terms for admission should be!!//  ....If not.. ??  ..Its not called censorship its called consequences !//...Yeesh
 
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 03, 2019, 03:58:10 PM
  Haven't we wasted enough time on this guy and his rude comments already...
  He does not know, nor has shown any so called "tricks", but pretends to know, without any proof, nor building anything.
  Let's just ask Color nicely (one more time) to remove any offensive remarks, and not post any new offensive comments in the future. OK???  This subject should not be spread to other threads, as well.  Color has been kicked out of forums previously.
  Time to shape up, or ship out.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: ramset on March 03, 2019, 04:18:26 PM
I think most here would be good with that.

But if not they should speak up !!
on another topic : How to clean nonsense posts from topics  ?..... should be discussed here ...... [should it be done or who cares ? or ????
Stefan has no time for this ,he is at a very hard time in his Life ATM
if a method can be proposed which makes it simple for him ??
he might become more reachable if we put in the effort to help here.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 03, 2019, 04:37:54 PM
  Let's just all try to keep within the subject of the particular thread. 
  Who does have time, or wants to have to deal with all this clutter???
  Rude personal comments are NOT allowed. Period.
  Yet, it's Stefan's forum, not ours. He is the only true moderator, whether he likes the job, or has time to moderate his forum, or not.   If color can just post on his own thread, he should be able to say and post anything he likes. If you don't like what you see or hear, don't go there. Although at times he does try to come up with valid points or opinions.
   
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 03, 2019, 04:38:42 PM
I think most here would be good with that.

But if not they should speak up !!
on another topic : How to clean nonsense posts from topics  ?..... should be discussed here ...... [should it be done or who cares ? or ????
Stefan has no time for this ,he is at a very hard time in his Life ATM
if a method can be proposed which makes it simple for him ??
he might become more reachable if we put in the effort to help here.
What is ATM automatic teller machine does not fit here !  ??
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 03, 2019, 04:54:35 PM
  Let's just all try to keep within the subject of the particular thread. 
  Who does have time, or wants to have to deal with all this clutter???
  Rude personal comments are NOT allowed. Period.
  Yet, it's Stefan's forum, not ours. He is the only true moderator, whether he likes the job, or has time to moderate his forum, or not.   If color can just post on his own thread, he should be able to say and post anything he likes. If you don't like what you see or hear, don't go there. Although at times he does try to come up with valid points or opinions.
 
Nick I'm not the guy (colorful metaphors) Spock and Jim Kirk silence on the bus on Startrek the journey home nor should anyone else be here, color has given us a lot of good hard facts that are not deliberate errors like the Katcher for instance.
Let's look at your primary winding is it used as a feedback winding to the base of the 2SC2500? that's a bad idea! why because current draw to the coil has to go through the transistors base junction and it cant be fed with a true 'EARTH'. and the coil
needs to be tuned like any other coil and it needs an ion collection device amongst other mistakes.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 03, 2019, 04:56:37 PM
Dear F6FLT . Your  post is using 
single words
and
single  phrases taken out of context.
...

Wesley

The implicit context is physics, since you were using physics concepts like "Zenneck waves", you must know it.
As these were definitions, only "single words" are needed, and these words are not from me but quoted from scientific definitions, these ones you censored.

Zenneck's waves radiate, whether you like it or not, whether you censor it or not. I'm not here to teach the basics of physics to people who talk about it grossly and peremptorily as if they know it when they don't know more than others. But if I can help modest people of good will to understand and not be deceived by the swagger of the former, I am happy to do so. Giving the right definitions is part of the method.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: Grumage on March 03, 2019, 04:59:04 PM
Hey Chet.

As many know I've not been taking much of an active role in this subject for quite a while. In fact I HAVE a free energy system.... Since its installation just short of three years now, I've generated a little over 3.6 MWHours!!

It's not some " exotic " transformer, simply solar! I'd recommend it to anyone.   :)

I still look in here everyday and noticed that this new thread has been placed where I'm one of three moderators. Thing is how should one interpret " nonsense " ? OU.Com is a worldwide forum and, as has been shown some of us would never have noticed the interpretation of the words written in another's language.

Pictures, on the other hand, are universal.

Some words that I've carried with me most of my life.... " Treat others like you'd like to be treated yourself " have held me in good stead. Let's " play nice " eh?

Cheers Grum.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 03, 2019, 05:06:22 PM
Nick I'm not the guy (colorful metaphors) Spock and Jim Kirk silence on the bus on Startrek the journey home nor should anyone else be here, color has given us a lot of good hard facts that are not deliberate errors like the Katcher for instance.
Let's look at your primary winding is it used as a feedback winding to the base of the 2SC2500? that's a bad idea! why because current draw to the coil has to go through the transistors base junction and it cant be fed with a true 'EARTH'. and the coil
needs to be tuned like any other coil and it needs an ion collection device amongst other mistakes.

   AG:  Not sure what primary winding you refer to, or on which device.
   Please post your answer on the Kapanadze thread, instead, where it can be discussed in detail.
   Grum:  Good to see that you're still around.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: ramset on March 03, 2019, 05:23:18 PM
Grum , I guess fellows had forgotten or were not aware  ;D [your moderator status in this builders section ]

//Grumage Quote  Some words that I've carried with me most of my life.... " Treat others like you'd like to be treated yourself " have held me in good stead. Let's " play nice " eh?...end quote

and then we remember we are guests too ....
AG--- ATM =""At the moment"
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 03, 2019, 06:11:30 PM
The implicit context is physics, since you were using physics concepts like "Zenneck waves", you must know it.
As these were definitions, only "single words" are needed, and these words are not from me but quoted from scientific definitions, these ones you censored.

Zenneck's waves radiate, whether you like it or not, whether you censor it or not. I'm not here to teach the basics of physics to people who talk about it grossly and peremptorily as if they know it when they don't know more than others. But if I can help modest people of good will to understand and not be deceived by the swagger of the former, I am happy to do so. Giving the right definitions is part of the method.

My dear F6FLT
Again you reverting, redirecting  and derailing  conduct of user <color>, that you used as an excuse to force your own agenda.
You  didn't criticize nor comment user <color> at all.
Methods  of derailing  original  content, used by you, are alike to typical  tools, of some unfriendly to  Western World  propaganda.
I  have provided the prove of  user <color> intentionally  raising  vulgarity, and profanity of  gender  and social  relation into  unprecedented to this forum  level.
It didn't happened before on this forum.

But  only thing you care about is to attack moderator privileges, that you don't like.
That's all that matters to you.
That's all you  complain about.
I'm not against you personally,
but I'm against infestation of any forum with
certain individuals whose agenda is
- intentional, destructive, often paid  for, disintegration of our dedication, unity, deposition and willingness, into better future  of all  of us including these who are paid  by some regimes to oppose.


Dear F6FLT in Your country  there are  people like me too.
It is unfortunate that  in my opinion, you  don't manifest the same approach .. but you  might have reason for it.
Everyone must somehow earn for living ,so is you..F6FLT


"Trying to earn a living"  however  is not always forgivable.
We do not tolerate foreign to us destructive demolishing and deceiving agendas coming from some
Far Eastern losers after their 101 years of constant collapse.

We are the nations  of success.
Our fathers works their life to accumulate  wealth for their children.
Their children have than prosperity, and success if they continue
to respect  trust and dedication in workplace, social life.
And only their grandchildren can be  wealthy at later in life.
 
Trust is build  by years of relationship.
So is our position in social platform.
So is our position in this forum

 

Wesley
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 03, 2019, 09:21:58 PM
...Dear F6FLT in Your country  there are  people like me too.
...

I agree with that.
Unfortunately, the world is not perfect, here too we hear slanderers and pseudo-scientific talebearers.
But fortunately, we can answer them without being censored.

"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
This statement is attributed to the philosopher Voltaire. I hope he will inspire you in the future, dear Wesley.

Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 03, 2019, 09:32:17 PM
It is very unfortunate dear F6FLT.
I do not know how many  of youmakes you,
but you are quite interesting  body.
Brilliant in some way, sparkling, and showing certain level of education.
You could be  great asset of this forum, you could be  a great companion..
But instead you decided to conflict with me.
I never wanted it, nor I'm happy about it.
I'm not the smartest guy, but to my friends in science,
and people meet in symposiums, conferences, meetings
I'm quite in the right level.
And this small world  of guys is  really very demanding. 

Moderator rights  have been given to me to keep my section clean,
short, consistent, with no need to respond to inflammatory comments .
No need to use questioned by you wording to explain something.

I'm avoiding conflicts, discussions, sidetracking .
I have NOTEBOOK.
- digital platform that allows me to keep that  part of my  personal glossary publicly accessible.
and possibly interactive.
No room for spammers,   hostile or deliberately frightening quality or manner individuals.

 
Wesley
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 03, 2019, 11:01:28 PM
   Wesley:   Yet, you have ignored the answers given by these guys, and repeatedly maintain that Zenneck waves are the true cause and workings of Kapanadze's devices.
    What did you expect... open arms and kisses?
    Please answer them without calling anyone names, if you can. There are no trolls here. And you are also being less than fair with their replies to your wild and unproven claims. YOU need to show some proof, to your claims. Or even guys like myself will doubt your opinions and the usefullness of your last several pages of posts.
   In any case, it would be good to separate wireless transfer of energy, from our free energy topics of interests. As there are no similarities between them that have been proven, or even somewhat believable.
   "I have a notebook"  but you can only post things that I agree with. Really??? 
    Trust is built on years of truthful information, not on questionable relationships. This is not about you personally, but on your opinions. We all have the right to our opinions, as well.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 04, 2019, 12:20:42 AM
NickZ the answers  to most of the   questions are  in my  Notebook already  for the long time.
I'm no obligated to jump from my chair, and point at it again  and again
every time someone makes request .

You said NickZ , you are not interested in my posts and comments.
So I open my own space on forum. I do not interfere with you.
You have nothing to complain.
I made 6 comments on your section since .
You made times more on my Notebook.


I do not have to be fair, or not fair  to anyone, in my Notebook or prove anything  to anyone.
Just because Notebook is to make notes at first.
And storage box is to store valuable to me and community  information- from my standpoint as 
I'm responsible to keep it clean and organized.
It is my voluntary contribution at best of my ability to be valuable to community.
I do not  want F6FLT  to criticize me for links, posted by me, in my Notebook,.
I do not want SolarLab to threaten me, to take hostile action against  me  and any displacement of  any of his links to pointed by him article.

so both of  listed gentleman are not welcomed in my notebook
- one for  multiple spamming ( record of that spamming exist for many hours every  few minutes)
- the other for threatening me multiple times and multiple occasions.


In the first post I set character of my Notebook
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg521714/#msg521714 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg521714/#msg521714)
read it Nick.Z.
Quote
My posts will not be frequent.
This is more of storage box.

If someone doesn't like it, than he does not have to visit my Notebook nor reply to it (if allowed.)
I dedicated  possibly more time and money to mutual benefit  of users of this forum than any of known to me members of this forum ever in history of this forum.
Hundreds of travel hours around the world, expenses of such activity, dangers, and not always the material collected was immediately ready to be published.
Hundreds of hours spend in lab or other labs,  often  not charge free.   
My two labs have been used to provide experiments.
Despite use of equipment  normally absolutely too expensive and too exotic, or  for some of you shockingly expensive I have made additional purchases .
So yes I did not have to , but I did.

Out of  around 180 videos in average 3 days to make it per video.
That gives you 540 days ( 16 hours per day) .
I used for video-making  professional equipment of quite significant value  or again I say- for some of you shockingly expensive.
to keep quality  4k and 5.7k
Hundreds of hours spend for translation.
Almost everything is  creative commons free to copy  ,free to use.
My support was provided to others often in monetary value and/or equipment delivered, at no charge , to help them provide experiments .
NickZ show me  members of this forum doing the same in the same extend///

My benefit is you guys.
Your better understanding and comfort of that understanding.
I do what I can, for you. for free.. 

Wesley
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: SolarLab on March 04, 2019, 03:15:09 AM
F.Y.I.

Some info/advise picked up from another board; might be helpful to keep it in mind.

How To Deal With Board SHILLS:

Do NOT reply to shills
Do NOT demolish their intentionally flawed arguments
Do NOT debate their idiotic "concerns"
Do NOT engage shills.
Do NOT participate in shill KAYFABE

In professional wrestling, kayfabe /ˈkeɪfeɪb/ is the portrayal of staged
events within the industry as "real" or "true", specifically the portrayal
of competition, rivalries, and relationships between participants as being
genuine and not of a staged or predetermined nature of any kind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe)
Do NOT perpetuate shill SLIDES.
Do NOT reply to shills.
Do NOT pick up spit

If you are NOT sure, LEARN to ID shills
shills = hate
shills = labels
shills = repetition
shills = envy, greed, etc. 

Do NOT correct intentional shill mistakes
Do NOT be triggered by shill taunts
Do NOT eat dead bats off the street
Do NOT bark back at dogs
Do dig, study, analyze, pray.

FIN


Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: SolarLab on March 04, 2019, 03:42:36 AM
However....
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 04, 2019, 09:56:06 AM
...
I do not  want F6FLT  to criticize me for links, posted by me, in my Notebook...
...

I don't criticize you for links, dear Wesley.

I criticize their possible inadequacies, or your comments which are pseudo-scientific because mixing the true and the false, and I explain why by logic and scientific references.

I criticize you for deleting messages and slandering, a sad method but the only one possible to compensate for an inability to make rational and technical arguments in response to objections, demonstrating the inconsistency of your assertions.

What you "do not want" is to see free, curious and critical minds in front of you, so it is counterproductive in research for free energy.
Your locked thread proves it, what you show that you want is mainly for others to be silent or to make you allegiance.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 04, 2019, 01:29:33 PM
Yes ;D ;D it's confusing as at the bottom of the page your all ignoring the request by the 'system' POST A REPLY!
|It's not compulsory!

Hi there: I hope everyone is enjoying this long-running anti deep state 'soap'  ;D all we need now is a 'serial' killer to destroy the Monsanto toxins and save the thread but is it in the water the food, I know the 1 % have a plan, 'B' Mars!
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 04, 2019, 01:29:33 PM
I don't criticize you for links, dear Wesley.
Yes you did  criticize me for links, as if it  was any of your business, what links I store in my Notebook.
I criticize their possible inadequacies, or your comments which are pseudo-scientific because mixing the true and the false, and I explain why by logic and scientific references.
Links and comments are for record just because I decided to quote  it or store it.
It is not important if multi billions corporation Viziv and Chevron, Texzone,  uses pseudoscientificly supported patents  issued by PO - in your opinion of course.
This is their money and they do whatever they want to do.
And you dear F6FLT  can not change it by protesting  their pseudoscientific basis to me on  forum,
Crowd of some Russians crumbling in that  particular part  of American Territory  can't change it too.

Criticize you for deleting messages and slandering, a sad method but the only one possible to compensate for an inability to make rational and technical arguments in response to objections, demonstrating the inconsistency of your assertions.
What you "do not want" is to see free, curious and critical minds in front of you, so it is counterproductive in research for free energy.
I'm  not here  to face challenge. Nor I care about it. I manage Notebook,- the storage place.
Quote
I'm not the smartest guy, but to my friends in science,
and people meet in symposiums, conferences, meetings
I'm quite in the right level.
And this small world  of guys is  really very demanding. 
Issue of removing links was already explained by me in previous post.
Your locked thread proves it, what you show that you want is mainly for others to be silent or to make you allegiance.
My dear F6FLT allegiance has nothing to do with my  action .
Everyone  wants  to have small place with your things  placed the way you want it.
You unlikely put your backyard  and garden tools in your living room.
Other people may object but they come back to their  own small spaces and  do the same.
I strongly believe I have contributed to the benefit of this forum the largest amount of my time and money,
anyone did in the history of it till now. And I can do more.
I'm willing to do more.
For that I need to organize my space the way that gives me comfort to do so.
I have no time for arguing who is right and who is wrong in electromagnetic wave theory,
when nuisances  covers important  from my perspective elements of data with their  protests.
I may open it at any time and I remove  posts  if needed according to  character of my Notebook.
Everything must have its own designation , and
my Notebook will not serve as a garage to park someone
Car with explosives.
And it is not important if it is Volga, Lada , or T-90.( joke)

I'm sorry if I can not  make all of you happy.
It is my believe,that I serve you guys  at best I can,
but not as good as some of you may wish I could.
I'm only one of you my dear  friends , till I can not any longer.
I wish you, have all  of your answers and question solved without  urgent  necessity  to
write, in  my  small space at overunity.com

Wesley
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 04, 2019, 01:49:37 PM
Wesley Hi putting the above aside you very kindly posted some very nice 'readable' circuits was there any other build
instructions on the coil winding other than already supplied?
Perhaps you have a pointer link where I can get the rest of the publication from.

Many thanks AG 
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 04, 2019, 02:20:32 PM
The Schematics  are somehow accessible.( this is not so important who has it and who make it accessible for whom )
The value of original  or accredited source of schematic is important from our typical  American practice in this field.
The credibility  of that source, and supporting comments.
So you are dealing with classical SR193 concept and its variations.
You are dealing with real value.
However it is in line  even with Viziv  and its two Tesla Towers
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172149/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172149/image//)
in its very concept.
But your opinion may be different.

I have no authorization as of yet to tell you more.
But I will,
I do not advertise my experiments and achievements  if  I have reason to do so.
But I will,
If I need/want/can  to do so.

Wesley
PS: There is one schematic that was not translated by me .
You can translate it for others.
Everyone can talk, but  I don't see  "much delivery" from Russian speaking SolarLab or from F6FLT.
As if they are with different business and/or activity - I  assume.
 
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 04, 2019, 03:13:58 PM
Yes i have already translated it (with google translate)  ;D and ran some tests on the central 'resonator' but it's difficult
to get it to oscillate ie primary and secondary spacing  inner and outer spacing I used in test rig pic, as bigger spacing
the less switching swing till it stops and the greater the transistor heating energy wast in amps, not milliamps  (diminishes to a stop) I get 167khz using a 2SC2500 as I'm assuming BMC 60 is no of turns but Google says it's current  ;D  but if I have a much smaller wind number  oscillations also die. 

Please note come Russian words don't translate or get changed (weird), so don't ask
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 04, 2019, 03:27:45 PM
   Wesley:    Yes, you are right about our opinions being different, concerning the unproven relation of Zenneck waves to any of the self runners that we have seen and known about to this date.   All of the above mentioned problems that you are facing is due to your unfounded opinions concerning these ideas. You are alone in that sense, as we are not of the same mind concerning your supposed "secret" source of power. Which is not what Kapanadze has mentioned, nor any other experimenter on this forum. Nor Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, etz... and much less Tesla.

    "It is in line with Viziv and it's two Tesla towers". 
    That, idea is what is making your life difficult. It is your choice. No one can take that from you.    However, I am on your side, and will some day prove just where and how any "extra energy" is actually obtained.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 04, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
    "It is in line with Viziv and it's two Tesla towers". 
    That idea is what is making your life difficult. It is your choice. No one can take that from you.    However, I am on your side, and will someday prove just where and how any "extra energy" is actually obtained.
There has been much on here about where it comes from, Everything has a resonant frequency and when you do strike it and you break it down to its basic level, then you can draw of it Tesla found that in the river span video destroyed by its own resonance and his earthquake machine.
but the problem your asking is how to do that with creation itself or it's building blocks and what holds atoms particles together, even Henry Moray talks about it, but who cares what anyone calls it  ;D
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 04, 2019, 04:08:37 PM
NickZ. You have your own opinion and you can not explain what Energy of of Kapanadze and its clones comes from.
I have explanation of energy origination, and energy conversion of Kapanadze and its clones.

And let it be this way.

We are operating in different parts of forum
So you have nothing to complain as I do not  write there.
I do not care much what some individual likes or not or   if they oppose or not.
I'm not here to convince anyone.
I  write mostly but not only for my friends in science.
Stay where you are and be happy.

Wesley
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 04, 2019, 04:12:22 PM
Yes you did  criticize me for links
...
Wesley

It's false.
I criticize your links and your pseudo-scientific comments mixing the true and the false.

You'd like to look like a victim but it won't work with me. You're the one who deletes other people's posts, not me.

It shows, the emptiness of your contributions despite their huge quantity incompatible with quality, a flooding of useless copy/paste of works done by others and distorted. This practice has a name (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism).
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 04, 2019, 04:16:35 PM
I'm sorry.
Original intention of mine was to formulate complain on user color and not  let to redirect
it to other issues.
For courtesy ,I have responded to  other  questions but that is all.
Thank you for your attention.
Please  comment user color vulgar and conflicting conduct  on this forum now.
If some of you  do not want to do that, it means that you are interested  only to  force "other  issues"
Or it means that some of you are interested to cover original problem with user color, to
save his  account from deletion.
And that can point, at  organized action by his colleagues  from the same  entity. I  assume.

Wesley
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 04, 2019, 04:30:11 PM
The Schematics  are somehow accessible.( this is not so important who has it and who make it accessible for whom )
...
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172149/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172149/image//)
...

What is the role of VD6?
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 04, 2019, 04:34:04 PM
NickZ. You have your own opinion and you can not explain what Energy of of Kapanadze and its clones comes from.
I have explanation of energy origination, and energy conversion of Kapanadze and its clones.

And let it be this way.

We are operating in different parts of forum
So you have nothing to complain as I do not  write there.
I do not care much what some individual likes or not or   if they oppose or not.
I'm not here to convince anyone.
I  write mostly but not only for my friends in science.
Stay where you are and be happy.

Wesley
   
   I am already happy, and I will "stay" where I want to stay. This thread is for this purpose, I am not the only one jumping around.
   Nor can you explain where the energy is coming from, either. Yet, we don't need more unsupported explanations, we need proof. I realize that you can't provide such proof, nor can one draw blood from a stone.
   My thoughts and ideas come from hands on experiments. Where do yours come from?
   The explanations have already been provided by Kapanadze, Akula, Ruslan, Stalker etz... All differing from your unproven views.   Anyway, I will waste no more time on this discussion. I think that by now I understand where you're coming from, yet, I don't agree. Nor do we need to agree. But, truth is truth, while fiction can't be supported by provable facts.
   I am not the one "complaining", concerning the so called trolls, and you can always block anyone on your thread, that disturbs you train of thoughts. Not so easy to do, on other threads, where freedom of speech is the norm.
 
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: SolarLab on March 04, 2019, 04:54:50 PM
F.Y.I.

Just a quick note - some good stuff happening:

As I'm sure you're aware; we're in the process of setting up a working relationship,
including educational and hands-on training sessions, with a variety of so called "Maker"
groups. Several "Test Set" configurations have been designed and are now being Alpha
tested by a small but very diverse panel - high scool through retired - little formal
education through Phd.

Had our first "real/preliminary working day" this weekend and the turn-out was
overwhelming, over 120 stayed for the full day. Since we had only 9 functional test sets,
we had to work in teams of 12 or so. Some of the participants are extremely sharp and
I think everyone left with much more than they came with. I know I sure learned a lot!

This approach to introducting "electronic extra energy power generation" so far appears
to a very good one. We'll know more in the coming months as our test sets mature, more
application notes are completed, and the lecture notes are polished.

Just plant a small seed of knowledge amongst the youth and it will grow like a weed!
Most of the younger folks participate in the local robotics club (many awards worldwide),
and I must say, they know their stuff (resonance, power, interference, etc.). Very inpressive
to say the least and they are definitely up for another challenge.

One of many examples: They set up their Sherline CNC Lathe software for coil winding,
from scratch using a brief app note, and wound a Tesla coil and a grenade coil in
less than 2.5 hours... WOW!

Note; there's a lot more going on out here in the real world than what you might find on
these isolated forums! Check it out. Get involved at the local level. There is a life
after the forums!  :)
FIN

Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 04, 2019, 05:32:05 PM
Ant that a little off the topic of the falling price of the dodo eggs 'soap' ?
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 04, 2019, 05:44:13 PM
  Solar Lab:   Thanks for providing that last bit of information. I also think that the answers we are looking for are not to be found on the internet, nor on this and other forums. As there is no more new information, and no one is showing any more self running devices. Except for Ruslan, which does not provide much info on any of the newer devices he has shown lately. Such as his 5000w to 10.000w devices that he has recently come up with, but has not shown, as yet.
  So, it's up to us to continue experimenting, and testing and focusing on what WORKS, instead of fighting among ourselves.
   
    If both F6FLT and color can be a little more polite and respectful, we can all work together, again. Although that has not been a problem for me, personally. And, that will allow Wesley to focus on whatever he wants to focus on, and to sleep a little better at night, as well.   
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 04, 2019, 06:48:23 PM
   
 I am not the one "complaining", concerning the so called trolls, and you can always block anyone on your thread, that disturbs you train of thoughts.
I must agree with you.
You may be dancing, with these  creatures NickZ .... intentionally  or not,
It depends  from how you feel like.

Simple answer for you, SolarLab , F6FLT...
As you do not like my Notebook than  do not go there.
Do not escalate conflict if any.
You have plenty of place all around.

Do not complain, pretend that my Notebook does not exist for you.   guys?
Ignore my  writing.
And  no need to  show up there  with any comments
I will be glad to open my Notebook even tomorrow.

Wesley 
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 04, 2019, 07:44:18 PM

Proposal incompatible with the need to fight the intellectual deceptions wherever they are made.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: ramset on March 04, 2019, 11:37:18 PM
I think we're out of Snickers bars......[Nick ate the last one....
Can't we just get back to the business of saving the world , and perhaps have some tolerance for works in progress [Wesley's Notebook work ?? ]..After all... holding the forum to such extreme.........?
Well,  I think you can appreciate the problem that might present ...would you have enuff time in a day ??
you'd be a very Busy Guy around here ?
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 05, 2019, 10:47:02 AM
Tolerance never implies not criticizing subjects, practices or attitudes. Tolerance here is only accepting the right of others to express themselves.

On the other hand, censorship of point of view, not because of form but because of substance, is indeed intolerance. It has been severely exercised in Wesley's discussion thread where he is moderator. But no one but him prevents others from expressing themselves on Kapanadze or on Zenneck's waves or other points, he is not prevented from expressing himself, there is no intolerance. He even has the exhorting right to be able to do so in places where he can ban others.

Criticism is a necessity in any group operating on a democratic model, it is a necessary means for progress, for the search for truth, for the search for consensus, on any topic.
Detailed and reasoned criticism, not cookie-cutter, must be accepted. If the one I produced was not enough, I could make a summary on request.  :)
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: citfta on March 05, 2019, 11:45:53 AM
F6FLT,

YOU are definitely becoming a nuisance.  I understand your wanting to correct the ideas you believe are a mistake being presented by others.  But no one appointed you the overseer of truth on this forum.  I also don't like to see ideas I believe are false being presented.  And I will express my disagreement with those ideas.  But most on this forum are grown men that have the option to follow their own beliefs and ideas.  After I express my opinion I will answer any questions about why I believe they might be mistaken in their idea or belief.  Then after that I try to just leave them alone to follow whatever they want to follow.

I also see clearly the need for a person to be able to have a section of this forum where he can discuss his or her ideas with others that might be interested without having to constantly reply to the naysayers.  So therefore a moderated section becomes necessary.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 05, 2019, 02:31:55 PM
   Guys:   I doubt that anyone here actually believes what Wesley is stating as facts concerning the relation of Zenneck wave to self running devices. It's not a fact, nor has it been proven in any way.   So, let just let him have his space, where he can do what he pleases. If you don't agree with what is being discussed on that thread, just don't go there, as he has asked. So, we can all move on, and actually get somewhere, instead of going in circles to no where.  As he is not listening to our questions and views on the subject, he may as well just lock the thread, and reserve it just for his own personal "notebook".  I guess that his own PC has no space for such a personal notebook, and needs to post on a public forum, instead.
   I will leave him alone, and not go to his notebook, as I see nothing there to get excited about.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: ramset on March 05, 2019, 03:39:40 PM
I can appreciate wanting to focus on true anomalies and attempting to steer persons towards what would be fruitful work , F6FLT made a mission statement https://overunity.com/18109/2019-and-beyond/ (https://overunity.com/18109/2019-and-beyond/)
Truly fearless intent !!
To note Here is not a casual discussion from an armchair experimenter or passer bye...Francois perhaps put the Velvet glove  back on the iron fist...??

// back to work ...[for me [] ,I hear there's an anomaly just over .............
the hunt continues !!






Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 05, 2019, 05:22:57 PM
F6FLT,

YOU are definitely becoming a nuisance.  I understand your wanting to correct the ideas you believe are a mistake being presented by others.  But no one appointed you the overseer of truth on this forum.
...

To correct the ideas we believe are a mistake is really a shame!   ::) ;D

Coming from a guy we've seen attacking the ideas of evolutionism, it's not only stupidity, it's the height of hypocrisy: "do as I say, not as I do!"

No one needs to be appointed to do what they think the right way. Everyone is free to use their own method and everyone is able to form an opinion on what others are writing and to respond to it.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 05, 2019, 05:37:47 PM
...
   I will leave him alone, and not go to his notebook, as I see nothing there to get excited about.

"A Forum (plural forums or fora) is a place for discussion."
We are on a forum, it seems to me. For other uses, there are other places, especially platforms for online publication, even free of charge.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: citfta on March 05, 2019, 05:50:47 PM
To correct the ideas we believe are a mistake is really a shame!   ::) ;D

Coming from a guy we've seen attacking the ideas of evolutionism, it's not only stupidity, it's the height of hypocrisy: "do as I say, not as I do!"

No one needs to be appointed to do what they think the right way. Everyone is free to use their own method and everyone is able to form an opinion on what others are writing and to respond to it.

I made it very clear why I did not believe in the stupidity of believing in evolution.  And I did it without attacking anyone that did not agree with my reasoning.  When it became clear that you and others were not interested in doing any serious research into that myth I then dropped it.  You have made it clear you only want to belittle those that don't want to listen to your great wisdom.  So be it.  I will not waste any more time trying to reason with someone that already knows everything.

Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 05, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
   Guys:    We don't have to all agree, yet knowing the truth about any subject is what makes us different than living in the previous dark ages of this planet. But, have we really learned our lessons. Have we evolved, really. Are we happier???We may go back to that time and situation once again, if we aren't careful. Which is not going to be our choice, but the choice of those dark forces that control our lives. They want us dead. And they are very very real.They know that you never really die, but can even control your spirit after so called death, at will. This is all coming to a boil.
Like it or not.  You can't change the world, but you can change yourself, and live where there is less of these control tactics.
  For now most of us are slaves, no time for doing what you like to do, just work, and more work. Simple Indians were not so dumb. We are living here now in a time where things seam to be getting much worse by the day. We must discover what has been purposely hidden from us, such and free energy, etz... And to help in bringing to light the dark control patterns and negative forces that we are all experiencing, if there is going to be any real chance at freedom, which has been taken from us, all this time.   If you think that you are free, try living without money...  That is how you are being controlled, and by your debts, which keeps you working for them. Make a lot of money, and give 1/2 to the government. Nice, right. Drill your own well, and get fined and shut down. They may even tax the pot that you grow, and the air that you breath, if they could.
 
   
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 05, 2019, 07:13:58 PM
F6FLT,

YOU are definitely becoming a nuisance...
I made it very clear why I did not believe in the stupidity of believing in evolution....
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: stivep on March 05, 2019, 07:22:16 PM
no problem My dear friends.
Wesley
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: Azufrito on March 05, 2019, 07:34:29 PM
two roosters in the same farmyard
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: Hoppy on March 05, 2019, 08:57:04 PM
Wesley,

I was trying hard to keep out of this threads discussion but what you have just posted about F6FLT is way over the top IMO!! Keep within the bounds of your notebook please.  >:(
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: NickZ on March 05, 2019, 09:24:28 PM
Wesley,

I was trying hard to keep out of this threads discussion but what you have just posted about F6FLT is way over the top IMO!! Keep within the bounds of your notebook please.  >:(

   Agreed:  And, what has been called trolls are not stupid uneducated persons, at all. And perhaps we should all pay more attention to them, as well. In any case, we all deserve respect. Even if you don't agree with what is being posted.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 05, 2019, 09:40:26 PM
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Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: SolarLab on March 06, 2019, 12:32:09 AM
F.Y.I.

Good stuff to be aware of; even if it would never ever happen here!  ;)   

How to Quickly Spot a "CLOWN" (some insight from the Experts(?))
Just so you can recognize it for what it is.

They will:

- Attempt to get a divisive or emotional response from you to derail research.

- Concern troll and copy/pasta spam shill to contradict confirmed findings.

- Employ faux debate tactics: Generalizations, gas-lighting, projection, misdirection, false equivalences,
confusing correlation with causation, appeal to authority, transference, false precepts, personal attacks,
straw-men, red herrings, etc.

- Promote social ethics that are disingenuous like doxxing, "reverse psychology", or promoting propaganda.

- Promote tactics that are unethical, illegal or involve methods outside the scope of the Law.

- Employ Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt to dissuade research.

Topic sliding - If information of a valuable or informative nature has been posted on a discussion forum,
it can be quickly removed from public view by topic sliding.

In this technique a large number of unrelated posts, or posts aimed at diluting the information presented,
are submitted in an effort to trigger a topic slide to literally push content out of view. Operators can control
several fake UIDs via the bots they make use of; these can also be called upon in the other techniques to
mask the intent of the operator from the users at large.

Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting, unless the thread is moderated, the post is now
lost in a sea of unrelated and bogus postings. 
 
Seeding bad information - Operatives will insert flawed or bogus information from time to time as an ongoing
tactic, depending on their skill set and the needs of their mission. Their most common ruse is providing information
or evidence which is backed by bad source material in the hope that the "source of the source" is never checked.
This serves several objectives, mainly resource consumption, evidence pollution, discouragement and misdirection.

Astroturfing consensus -This is a technique that attempts to build a manufactured consensus around a flawed
set of statements or compromised information. This is related to consensus cracking, where false evidence is
injected in an attempt to dispute or discredit what the current consensus is, and push it towards the desired
false consensus.  Misleading and false evidence and information are often salted into the evidence pool, with
an aim to impede organic consensus building, while also poisoning the available information and evidence.

Cultivating tacit approval (The legal term for this is 'silent agreement') - Attempting to attain this state is
done using a technique where operators will try to convince the user population to ignore, or not respond to
bad information or false assertions. This is done in a bid to reduce push-back against the above mentioned tactics.

It's worth noting that the reply filtering mechanism of the boards (which currently can't be disabled without code
changes from the site admin) is used as a weapon of sorts in this tactic: Filtering with software prevents anons
from defending against seeding bad information and astroturfing consensus. This is why the CLOWNS (operators)
push so hard to condition anons into filtering material they disagree with.   
 
FIN   
   
Also worth noting is it can be proven in many cases that the vast majority of these CLOWNS are well trained,
well paid, some are highly skilled, and they will often accuse you of the very "things" that they, themselves,
are engaged in... and they often work in groups while using numerious synms...
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 06, 2019, 06:59:53 AM
Wesley Be a good fellow and please deleate some of this worthless crud please. or just just send then on there way.
many thanks
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: Ansis on March 06, 2019, 01:29:49 PM
Hi!
Of course, this link with video is very simple, but it is very similar with "Green box" video with
waterpipe and GAZ24 (Volga) car radiator.
https://youtu.be/sPPsyy54aYs
P.S. I think about "how to fake" process.
P.S2. Reality of self amplification up to 1000X is unknown to me and 50Hz stable power with 100 000W output
power is only possible when we stealing from somwhere.
P.S3. Atmospheric electricity exists, but power levels is small. The best beutifull video is filmed by "Lasersaber", and we can watch it here:
https://youtu.be/ENeDkGce5-4

Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: lancaIV on March 06, 2019, 01:56:06 PM
Hi!
Of course, this link with video is very simple, but it is very similar with "Green box" video with
waterpipe and GAZ24 (Volga) car radiator.
https://youtu.be/sPPsyy54aYs (https://youtu.be/sPPsyy54aYs)
P.S. I think about "how to fake" process.
P.S2. Reality of self amplification up to 1000X is unknown to me and 50Hz stable power with 100 000W output
power is only possible when we stealing from somwhere.
P.S3. Atmospheric electricity exists, but power levels is small. The best beutifull video is filmed by "Lasersaber", and we can watch it here:
https://youtu.be/ENeDkGce5-4 (https://youtu.be/ENeDkGce5-4)


"Factor 1000" and over "100 00 W" output in paper formate :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
It is not "stealing" ,it is conversion.
Similar :
https://contest.techbriefs.com/2017/entries/sustainable-technologies/7503 (https://contest.techbriefs.com/2017/entries/sustainable-technologies/7503)
Probably experimenting with Bitter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bitter (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bitter) electromagnets is easier thanto wait for cheap available superconductive room temperature AT winding coils.
Also interessant : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Kapitsa (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Kapitsa)
Liquid nitrogen temperature superconductive state :
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13984 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13984)

https://www.tedmagnetics.com/
https://www.prweb.com/releases/2018/06/prweb15525181.htm
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=8&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140403&CC=US&NR=2014091890A1&KC=A1#
"...CoPs in the range of 200 to 400 or greater... "


Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: Ansis on March 06, 2019, 08:12:56 PM
This video is very informative:
https://youtu.be/-Ukt4qZYgGo
Just watch!
:)
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: F6FLT on March 06, 2019, 08:35:26 PM

Great experiment. What you are finally doing by adding resonant circuits is progressively transforming your remote energy transmission into a transmission "line", so you get more power.


Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: Ansis on March 06, 2019, 09:14:05 PM
Yes, but we see energy which is sucked from power supply too.
It means, we can't make FreeEnergy with ordinary LC tanks.
There must be perpendicular coils and ?
P.S. In Wesley's "blue light" free runner? we see not ordinary light generating by electrons.
This "blue light" is plasma inside the bulb. We know, plasma is HiVoltage created.
No Current.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: citfta on March 06, 2019, 09:26:19 PM

P.S. In Wesley's "blue light" free runner? we see not ordinary light generating by electrons.
This "blue light" is plasma inside the bulb. We know, plasma is HiVoltage created.
No Current.


That is not correct.  Plasma is a combination of HV and some current.  In industrial Plasma Cutters there is quite a bit of current.

Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: Ansis on March 06, 2019, 09:43:16 PM
It is another story.
Plasma cutters use powerfull grid current, because of work which must be done.
This "blue light" is not that process.
In ebay you can buy "plasma ball", which radiate very nice glow effects.
Consumption is about 1W from grid.
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: AlienGrey on March 06, 2019, 10:27:45 PM
years ago we had a couple of UV lasers they would charge the air that passed through we passed one of the beams through a high voltage charged tube it was able to deliver that energy to it's target the second beam was used as a return.
A space-age phaser gun using plasma beam taser without  wires
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: ramset on March 07, 2019, 01:35:58 AM
There's a few Elephants in this room........some things need sorting ....


AG  yes there was a recent claim RE: UV light [Led's] as well as Cheap UV lasers enhancing plasma
one member here was checking on that claim,I will ring him to see if he checked it and report back.////Now about those PackEDerms
How do we fix this ?
Title: Re: Test topic for moderator discussions and "Other"between members
Post by: Ansis on March 07, 2019, 10:36:21 AM
OK.
Here is picture.
It was happened 15? years ago, when we think about sparks and Kapanadze like FreeEnergy from Space.
I take 555 timer and make this circuit, find resonance 1,2kHz 10% and use Spark plug.
There was very big looses of energy.
Than I take and replace Spark Plug with HiVoltage Capacitor and get about 90% efficiency.I don`t use any Ground-tricks.
Simple conversion.
Today I think about to make this circuit much interesting.
I think to add LowVoltage spark to LowVoltage Transformer, make Loop and add Ground to this strange circuit with Abramenko plug or Full Bridge rectification and I try to charge Capacitor and than I will use 150V to 12V DC-DC convertor to check "amplification".
Because I don`t believe to Energy from the Sky!
I don`t believe in Free Launch, but I believe in tricks, phenomena and I think, there can be something, but I believe only in the "energy from somewhere".