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geptole

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the Time machine
« on: March 02, 2019, 12:41:44 PM »
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In the vicinity of a great mass as planets or stars or black holes, the ("space_time") it is very curved, that is concentrated, and an external observer sees that in the vicinity of those mass the time flows more slowly.
The purpose of this time machine is to do the exact opposite, that is, to straighten the ("space_time"), that is, to dilate it.
Suppose you need at least 4 days to do a thesis, but you forgot to do it and you have to give it in 5 minutes.
How do solve the problem ?
You can say that you have forgotten or you need this kind of time machine.
With a time machine you can do the 4-day job in just 5 minutes; 4 days have passed for you, but only 5 minutes have elapsed for the others.
You would earn a very interesting amount of time.
This could also be useful for owners of factories who want to make the most of their slave workers.
How is the design of this time machine ?
These are simply 2 rotation axes placed perpendicular to each other (a carpenter would say "in team")
The 2 imaginary axes must intersect perfectly otherwise we get dynamic imbalances that are not going well.
If 2 axes of rotation are required, then 2 electric motors are required.
To distinguish them in the drawing one engine is green and the other is pink.
The purpose of the pink engine is to generate a very strong gyroscopic effect, so strong as to be almost inflexible.
The purpose of the green engine is to quickly rotate the rotation axis produced by the pink engine.
The effort wich the green engine must has to do is remarkable because the gyroscopic effect generated by the pink engine is remarkable.
The pink engine has to do 40,000 rpm, instead the green motor has to do 20,000 rmp .
We must remember that the gyroscopic effect has the tendency to keep the axis of rotation fixed in space.
The torque generated by the green engine should generate heat or potential energy, instead it does not generate any of the two forms of energy, so it seems that the famous law of energy conservation is not respected.
In fact: in order for the law of conservation of energy to be respected, it must necessarily happen that the ("space_time") that is above the pink motor must start to turn on itself and then accelerate with a rotary motion.
Even if the whole laboratory does not rotate on itself, it is as if it were turning on itself and any non-constrained objects that are close to the machine would be pushed outwards, even an external observer feels a force that drives him away from the time machine.
The rotation of ("space_time") generates the expansion of ("space_time"), right where there is the imaginary center of the rotation axis B.
The exact opposite of what happens happens near a large mass like a planet or star or black hole.
Note: you should not exaggerate to speed up too much the passage of time, in other words you should not exaggerate to dilate too much ("space_time"); because the excessive expansion of ("space_time") could cause a tearing of ("space_time"), the tearing of ("space_time") could cause a gigantic explosion.

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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2019, 12:05:20 PM »
it is possible to make the time machine even with an ONLY motor, but in this case the 2 flywheels cannot be of the same geometry.
One must have a crown gear, so a bevel gear pair is required.
In this case of a single motor, the brushes are not necessary but the friction of the gears is considerable, would it be more appropriate ?

those 2 light yellow pieces are the thrust bearings, whereas the pink ones are 2 normal standard ball bearings.

Obviously everything must be dynamically balanced, so the mass of the flywheels must be precise in order to do everything in the center and balanced.

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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2019, 02:27:05 PM »
Now I finally understand the concept. The flywheel itself spins in the X axis while its x axis is spinning in the Z axis. I still don't believe this will do anything with the clock - except if you accidently drops the clock on the spinning flywheel...then the time display on the clock will stop.


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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2019, 02:50:12 PM »
I'm glad you understood something.

The engine absorbs a lot of energy because it has to fight against the gyroscopic effect.

The consequence of the fact that the gyroscopic effect does not dissipate heat and does not increase the potential energy of something; where does the energy go?

Answer this question...
Respecting the law of energy conservation, where does go the energy that is needed to combat the gyroscopic effect ?

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Not even the law of conservation of angular motion is respected.
Rather ! No !
It is respected because the ("space_time") starts to rotate, so the ("space_time") expands, so the clock must work faster than normal.

The law of conservation of angular motion and also the law of conservation of energy dictate that the clock must run faster than normal.

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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2019, 06:20:07 PM »
I'm glad you understood something.

The engine absorbs a lot of energy because it has to fight against the gyroscopic effect.

The consequence of the fact that the gyroscopic effect does not dissipate heat and does not increase the potential energy of something; where does the energy go?

Answer this question...
Respecting the law of energy conservation, where does go the energy that is needed to combat the gyroscopic effect ?

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Not even the law of conservation of angular motion is respected.
Rather ! No !
It is respected because the ("space_time") starts to rotate, so the ("space_time") expands, so the clock must work faster than normal.

The law of conservation of angular motion and also the law of conservation of energy dictate that the clock must run faster than normal.


What makes you assume that it does take energy to keep the gyroscope spinning in both X and Z axis at the same time?
The only thing that happens here, is that the gyroscopes axle is forced either up or down. But since the gyroscope does not move up or down, this force is multiplied with zero, so no energy is required to sustain rotation.
If the system has no friction, and you wind it up with the 380 volt motor, the flywheel will keep on spinning in both X and Z axis - because no extra energy is involved except the kinetic energy in the X and Z axis. And that kinetic energy is supplied by the motor untill the desired RPM are reached, but after that, the motor runs easy, and the power consumption drops to zero (given that you have no loss in the system).


Edit: The motor does not absorb anything, because it isn't fighting any gyroscopic effect. Surprized? Me too the first time I discovered that I was wrong about gyroscopic effects.

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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2019, 08:24:12 PM »
the axis that absorbs a lot of energy is only that B, instead the axis of rotation A absorbs very little energy enough to counteract the internal frictions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VycrS3VYjeM

First you have to study the gyroscopic effect and then we can talk.

Now you don't know things, so we can't talk.

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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2019, 09:46:42 PM »
the axis that absorbs a lot of energy is only that B, instead the axis of rotation A absorbs very little energy enough to counteract the internal frictions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VycrS3VYjeM

First you have to study the gyroscopic effect and then we can talk.

Now you don't know things, so we can't talk.


I know how a gyroscope works. You just confuse the forces.
An easy experiment:


Make a pendulum that have a fixed direction with firm bearings. Lets say that these bearings is axis B - horizontally. At the bottom of the pendulum you place a flywheel horizontally. That is axis A - vertically. Spin it up, and start the pendulum. Will the pendulum resist moving, or will it not?
The correct answer is: The pendulum works just as a pendulum. Axis B is not restricted. The rotating flywheel have no impact on the pendulum behaviour. Just test it. Easy experiment. I can prove it for you if you want. I got just what I need to show you ;)


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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2019, 08:21:44 PM »
iif you can let me see, even a bicycle wheel is fine.

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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2019, 07:53:06 AM »
I have an iron flywheel. I spin it up with a Dremel. The attached image shows something similar to what I will make to prove that the pendulum will not just stay one place regardless of position, but swing back and forth without effort even if the flywheel spins at high RPM.


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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2019, 09:11:56 PM »
 :)
You should make the pendulum always fall from the same height.
First time without the flywheel turning, the second time with the flywheel turning fast.

Because of the frictions, sooner or later the pendulum will stop, if the number of oscillations is equal in both cases, then I am a charlatan otherwise I am a good prophet deserving of applause.


(I'm Italian, I don't understand English well)

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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2019, 12:43:21 AM »
:)
You should make the pendulum always fall from the same height.
First time without the flywheel turning, the second time with the flywheel turning fast.

Because of the frictions, sooner or later the pendulum will stop, if the number of oscillations is equal in both cases, then I am a charlatan otherwise I am a good prophet deserving of applause.


(I'm Italian, I don't understand English well)
Absolutely. Same hight. I need to buy a couple of hinges first so the pendulum can move in only one plane, and not shift side to side. This is the simplest way to demonstrate your device, which is doing the same thing. Your device prevents the flywheel to twist in the vertical plane due to the gears and bearings that keeps it horisontal while the flywheel spins in the vertical plane. And this is the very reason the gyro effect isn't working. It works only when X, Y ans Z axis is free to move in every direction. Your device locks one axis, and therfor it will not take energy to keep it running.


I will be gone in an RC airplane event tomorrow, so I cannot buy hinges then. I have packed my tiny red car with two RC-planes (One BeachCraft T34 and one PA Katana), redy to go tomorrow morning. I must do something fun once in a while too LOL :-)


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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2019, 07:03:45 PM »



This is the first proof. If you want another proof where the flywheel is horizontal, not vertical, please let me know.
Notice that the ballbearings in the flywheel cause the flyeheel to twist a little bit. It is done intentionally so you also can see how the gyroscopic effect works in the flywheel.
A 100% firm bearing will not cause this twist.

https://youtu.be/sCxTstTTl88


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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2019, 06:15:29 PM »
Many thanks for the test. ;D

I counted 18 swings with the flywheel stopped, with a flying flywheel I couldn't count well because you put your hand in front.

Then I could not see the fulcrum above which could not see the rotation axis B.
What was it costing you to put away the video camera a bit?

Then the bearing must be 100% rigid.

In that case, while the flywheel is spinning, the number of oscillations should be less than 18, otherwise what is written on the books is not true, ie is not true that gyroscopic effect keeps the rotation axis in space.

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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2019, 07:23:25 PM »
Many thanks for the test. ;D

I counted 18 swings with the flywheel stopped, with a flying flywheel I couldn't count well because you put your hand in front.

Then I could not see the fulcrum above which could not see the rotation axis B.
What was it costing you to put away the video camera a bit?

Then the bearing must be 100% rigid.

In that case, while the flywheel is spinning, the number of oscillations should be less than 18, otherwise what is written on the books is not true, ie is not true that gyroscopic effect keeps the rotation axis in space.
I can for sure take another video further away. That crossed my mind too when I watched the video, because I could possibly do something outside the camera to fool anyone. I didn't, but to receive your trust, I will take the camera further away. The smartphone camera capture a relatively narrow space, but I will try at the same time as I can reach the pendulum with my hand.
I need some other bearings. I have a pair of larger bearings that I can use, but I must first print two adapters so they can fit perfectly. Those bearings I have in the video are too small, and the red 3D printed adapter got cracks because the flywheel isn't 100% balanced. I will balance it well, and do another test. OK?


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Re: the Time machine
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2019, 12:16:42 PM »
Printing new adapters for larger bearings.
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