Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Plug Heater

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 506122
  • *Total Topics: 15118
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 5
  • *Guests: 17
  • *Total: 22

Author Topic: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?  (Read 1781 times)

Offline trevstar

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« on: February 07, 2019, 01:14:11 AM »
Hi everybody.
I have been lurking on overunity.com for years.This is my first post.   I have been looking to
buy the Bedini SG Motor. I have seen parts for salebut this is the only place I have found it almostfully assembled. Does anyone know if the selleris reliable and does he deliver a quality product?https://www.horn.cc/shop2/prestashop/en/bedini/19-the-new-bedini-schoolgirl-energizer.html
Thank you for your inputTrevor

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« on: February 07, 2019, 01:14:11 AM »

Offline ALVARO_CS

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 170
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2019, 09:17:55 AM »
See this one (half cheap)

https://www.banggood.com/STARK-35-Bedini-Brushless-Model-Magnets-Pseudo-Perpetual-Motion-Disc-Motor-24V-Science-Toy-p-1413242.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN


But it is fed by a power suply, so against Bedini philosophy and findings. which makes it just a kind of pulsed motor, with no recovery battery.

Offline trevstar

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2019, 09:43:21 PM »
Thanks Alvaro,
Great find!

But if it is true that it runs on AC then Iguess that will not work for me.They have some great photos but theydon't give any information at all.If it could be adapted to run onthe single 9 volt battery and endlesslyrecharge like Bedini's  that wouldhelp.


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2019, 09:43:21 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline citfta

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 717
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2019, 10:02:54 PM »
Thanks Alvaro,
Great find!

But if it is true that it runs on AC then Iguess that will not work for me.They have some great photos but theydon't give any information at all.If it could be adapted to run onthe single 9 volt battery and endlesslyrecharge like Bedini's  that wouldhelp.

I have built several versions on the Bedini SSG.  None of them will endlessly recharge.  And I am not aware of any one else getting one to endlessly recharge.  I have been on several forums like this one for over 10 years so I think I would have seen one by now if anyone had actually gotten one to endlessly recharge.  I have seen all the claims but no proof that those claims are true.

But I really think you should build one if you have no electronic experience.  You will learn a lot as you get it to work and then tune it for the best possible operation.  They are a great educational tool.  I have helped several people get theirs to run after they built them.  I will be glad to help you get yours to work also if you decide to build one.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Offline trevstar

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2019, 11:43:07 PM »
Hi Carroll
The claim is Bedini had one running 12 years. I would hope for one that would last a year.  How long do the ones you build last?
Trevor

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2019, 11:43:07 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline citfta

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 717
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2019, 12:10:56 AM »
Hi Trevor,

I never did try to run one to see how long it would last.  What I did find was that the battery was slowly dropping so I stopped before doing harm to the battery.  I know they will continue to run for a very long time if you aren't concerned about harming the battery.  I mean that they will run on a very small amount of current so they will keep running as the voltage drops.  And there is a good possibility that ALL the tricks as to how he did that have never been revealed.  And there may be some out there that have been running for a few months or years and the builder has decided to not share how he did it.  So I am not saying it can't be done.  I am only saying I haven't seen one and haven't gotten any of mine to run without the battery dropping.  You may be able to get yours to work better than mine.  But at any rate it would be a good experience for you.

Take care,
Carroll

Offline trevstar

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2019, 04:06:42 AM »
Ok. I have a dumb question. Anyone please chip in.
Is it possible to replace the battery in the SG motor with a supercapacitor?  From my limited understanding of the device, that would not work.  But what do you all think?


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2019, 04:06:42 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline tinman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5145
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2019, 08:23:09 AM »
Ok. I have a dumb question. Anyone please chip in.
Is it possible to replace the battery in the SG motor with a supercapacitor?  From my limited understanding of the device, that would not work.  But what do you all think?

Yes you can replace both batteries with super caps if you wish-no problem there.

If you wish for your pulse motor to run for a year,just use large bstteries. The !self running! claim by the Bedini fan club is a lie.
There has never been a self running pulse motor built.

What is it you are trying to achieve with your pulse motor ?


Brad

Offline Hoppy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4231
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2019, 10:49:54 AM »
I think its fairly well accepted by those skilled in the art, that the energiser will not run for ever on a given battery. Furthermore, the energiser is claimed to condition batteries and not harmful to them in the long run, so long as the energiser runs together with a cap pulser output. As I understand, the continuous running claim relates to an energiser / cap pulser setup whereby continuous swapping between source and charge batteries is in force.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2019, 10:49:54 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline tinman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5145
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2019, 11:08:07 AM »
I think its fairly well accepted by those skilled in the art, that the energiser will not run for ever on a given battery. Furthermore, the energiser is claimed to condition batteries and not harmful to them in the long run, so long as the energiser runs together with a cap pulser output. As I understand, the continuous running claim relates to an energiser / cap pulser setup whereby continuous swapping between source and charge batteries is in force.

I would agree Hoppy that the SSG can(at a slow rate)desulphate batteries.

I also had one extremely close to running it self a few years back,and that was on cap's.
I wish i still had that one,as i believe if i had of switched to Schottky diode's to reduce the voltage drop,it would have/may have run it self. But being back in my green days,i would pull one thing apart to make the next.


Brad.

Offline Void

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2187
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2019, 07:41:26 PM »
I know it depends on different factors such as how many windings there are on coils,
and how big and heavy the wheel is, but roughly how much current does a SSG draw
when running with a 12V and also with a 24V battery? Just want to get a rough idea of
the amount of input power required to run SSG setups.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2019, 07:41:26 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline Hoppy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4231
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2019, 08:27:00 PM »
I know it depends on different factors such as how many windings there are on coils,
and how big and heavy the wheel is, but roughly how much current does a SSG draw
when running with a 12V and also with a 24V battery? Just want to get a rough idea of
the amount of input power required to run SSG setups.
Void.

There are several other variables governing current draw but in general terms the average current can be as low as a few milliamps. The SSG wheel axle can also be coupled to a generator when the device is scaled-up in size and power rating.

Offline citfta

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 717
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2019, 08:37:22 PM »
I know it depends on different factors such as how many windings there are on coils,
and how big and heavy the wheel is, but roughly how much current does a SSG draw
when running with a 12V and also with a 24V battery? Just want to get a rough idea of
the amount of input power required to run SSG setups.

It has been a few years since I last played around with the SSG.  But if I recall correctly I could usually get my current down to about 150 milliamps.  This was a 18" bicycle wheel with about  20 ceramic magnets on it.  The magnets were the rectangular ones you can get at Lowes.  I think they are 1/2" by 1" by 2 ".  The coil was the standard coil called for which is a one pound solder spool wound bifilar until full with 21 awg and 24 awg wire.  The center of my spool was filled until packed with some pieces of electric fence wire.  That seems to make a cheap and effective core.
Carroll

Offline Grumage

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1063
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2019, 08:50:13 PM »
Hi All.

Like Brad, I built a variant of the Bedini SSG. It had six Neodymium block magnets NSNSNS and they were quite large at 20/25/30 mm section. I used the Bedini/Cole " window " method to both drive and collect from the motor.

This motor after many hours of tinkering ran continuously for three months without dropping the 7 AH SLA battery below 8.7 VDC. I used a mechanical switch for both drive and collection from the 1000 turn pickup coil.

Although I considered the motor a success insofar as it ran, no useable output power could be got and, like Brad I scrapped it.

The spooky part was that this motor, running on a ground floor back room was below number 2 son's bedroom. He started complaining about poor sleep and recurring nightmares etc. We put it down to his age.... Not so, the day I finally decided to pull the plug on the project was the best nights sleep he'd had in months!!

I have no photos either as on one occasion I borrowed my daughters Kodak digital camera and it wiped the memory card clean, took out all her recent holiday snaps too. I have no explanation for these events, it could just as easily have been coincidental!!

Cheers Grum.

Offline Void

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2187
Re: Bedini SG Motor Worth Buying?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2019, 10:15:29 PM »
Hello Hoppy, Citfta, Grumage,
Thanks for the info on the SSG's. So it seems input power draw can vary quite a bit
depending on the exact setup.

 

OneLink