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« Reply #1080 on: February 10, 2021, 02:34:21 PM »
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Re: Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out
« Reply #347 on: November 29, 2012, 09:15:17 AM »
I need to ask a question about power measurement in below circuit. Two loads A and B connected to 220 V AC. U1 is 3 volts and lets say I1 is 100 ma. U2 is 120 volts and I2 is 200 ma. This matches the real behaviour of this simple circuit: it halves source voltage and doubles the amps.
Power consumed by load A is 3 V * 0.1 A = 0.3 watts and power consumed by load B is 120 V * 0.2 A = 24 watts. Is power consumed by the system from the source 0.3 watts, 24 watts or something else ?

The way I see it is that when power is taken from point B there will be current increase seen at the source but not power increase because voltage changes only slightly. Hence current increase does not mean power increase in this case.

Forest, TheCell, can you fill in values of U1, U2, I1 and I2 in your setup ?

To make this self run would require use of DC-AC converter and then DC feedback from the output back to DC using diode bridge, possibly step it down without using trafo. Trafo would limit the amount of feedback. I don't have inverter available to make any tests but I think this is how TK makes feedback.

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Jack Noskills

Re: Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out
« Reply #351 on: November 29, 2012, 03:30:24 PM »
At the moment I am not aware of successfull replication. I wanted to ask this question because I think conclusions made from earlier replication attempts may not be correct.

But, lets say U1 is 3 volts, would you consider this circuit to be OU or not ?

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The dead time is determined by the complementary switching of the two IGBTs at the top and the bottom of the output voltage of a single-phase half-bridge inverter. At this time, if both switches are turned on, the device may burn out (short circuit fault), so turn on with a slight time difference. This slight difference in time is called dead time or blanking time.

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« Reply #1081 on: February 10, 2021, 02:41:27 PM »
The point is to say that the transformer is inoperative because of Load A.
So can the dead time be complete?

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To make this self run would require use of DC-AC converter and then DC feedback from the output back to DC using diode bridge, possibly step it down without using trafo. Trafo would limit the amount of feedback. I don't have inverter available to make any tests but I think this is how TK makes feedback.
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The reasoning of a member of Jack Noskills is virtually missing the understanding of how the TK-generator works.
But,

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forest

Reply #1055 on: February 06, 2021, 11:46:22 am »
Yes, seems so, but how long? When the filament is heated would it change the resonant frequency? Also we don't know the input versus output measurements. But the exhibition is quite astonishing indeed.
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The'forest' member asked again at the end of eight years whether the resonant frequency (dead time) could change if the filament was heated.
My dad has a very good memory.
So the discussion between the members of'Jack Noskills' and'forest' was summoned again.
The'forest' member's question is related to how the TK-generator works,
The fundamental working principle of the generator and the change in the resonant frequency due to'filament heating' are irrelevant.
Impedance is required to induce resonance of the secondary coil and capacitor,
This is just a small operation limited to the push-pull circuit,
This is because the real resonance occurs only when the Tesla matches the push-pull resonance.

Let's take a simple example.

God turns man into mud and breathes, so that a living man breathes.
The yoke-transformer push-pull circuit is like a breathless person.
At this time, a person has no breath, but must be like a complete person.
Tesla is like breath.
In a fully-formed push-pull state, the Tesla must be combined for a person to breathe.

The'filament heating' method suggested by'forest' members is a small challenge that people who complete the generator initially experience, and is not the only idea of'forest' members.
The use of resistors or other methods is the method used by Akura and Ruslan in the initial operation of the generator.
2.3 MΩ is the way Ruslan thought,
Akura used a small light bulb.

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« Reply #1082 on: February 10, 2021, 02:49:15 PM »
Materials other than conventional light bulbs or resistors can be used.

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« Reply #1083 on: February 10, 2021, 03:37:32 PM »
The principle should be easy. In other case noone could replicate it and we know that many people in the past have even better devices generating copious amount of kW like Hubbard, Amman brothers or Hendershot.

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« Reply #1084 on: February 10, 2021, 04:10:52 PM »
"If you have 2 coils with the same resistance then, for the same input wattage, the coil with higher inductance will store more energy in it's magnetic field - worth pondering"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BPphesBGg0&lc=UgzJPGgHBSUiGBPbvvt4AaABAg

Greater inductive mass (Copper)!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #1085 on: February 10, 2021, 06:58:49 PM »
forest

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Re: Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out
Reply #405 on: May 08, 2014, 10:50:20 AM »
Don't use the capacitor. If your coil is high impedance then it will work without caps. I have tried higher frequency mods using caps but cannot say about the results for sure because I don't have scope. High impedance means that when load is not connected idle current should be as low as possible.

Can you make measurements, using scope or meter?

Using isolation trafo in front would be good to have so you could check testcase 3 what is going on there.

I don't understand what the heck is rasor only socket transformer.
https://overunity.com/12487/simple-to-build-isolation-transformer-that-consumes-less-power-than-it-gives-out/msg401667/#msg401667

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The principles are easy, but the ways members understand them are all different.
I think it's a trial and error process for something new that I haven't experienced before.
The day will come when the descendants of members will take this theory for granted.

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« Reply #1086 on: February 10, 2021, 07:23:42 PM »
If your coil is high impedance then it will work without caps.

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It would be nice if the electric law could change according to the person's taste or viewpoint,
Until now, humans are not gods, so we must obey the laws of electricity.

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« Reply #1087 on: February 10, 2021, 07:32:29 PM »
The principle Ruslan later discovered is very easy,
Those who do not understand act like gods at their will and turn them into useless principles.

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« Reply #1088 on: February 10, 2021, 08:35:53 PM »
10 февраля 2021 г.
то что я понял от Руслана
Это то что я понял из слов Руслана Кулабухова и не более эта схема Далли

There seems to be a genius individual difference in the understanding of the Russians who have just visited this cafe.

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« Reply #1089 on: February 10, 2021, 08:44:09 PM »
After finding the genius of individual differences twice, he becomes a passionate experimentation fanatic like his father seven years ago.

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« Reply #1090 on: February 10, 2021, 09:22:28 PM »
💧L'eau comme carburant pour rouler en voiture ⚡

It's a good experiment.

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« Reply #1091 on: February 10, 2021, 09:50:46 PM »
US645576A

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« Reply #1092 on: February 11, 2021, 10:58:52 AM »
forest

Tesla patents now belong to everyone.

Some people are lazy.
I don't think there is any obligation to serve the lazy people hard.

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« Reply #1093 on: February 11, 2021, 11:05:53 AM »
Frequency Inductance Capacitance Calculators for FM Oscillators
https://electronics-diy.com/calculators.php

The combination of LC resonance mode of standing waves in the inductor.
Calculation online

The length of the wire, m
The core diameter of wires, mm
Diameter of coil, mm
The frequency of the standing wave in the coil
Harmonic LC resonance
Dielectric permittivity
The thickness of the coil, mm
http://gorchilin.com/calculator/reactor?l=40&d=1&D=110&L=0.25&G=1&C=0&E=1&dt=0&lang=en

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« Reply #1094 on: February 11, 2021, 11:45:34 AM »
Эксперимент Тесла с U-образной шиной / Tesla hairpin circuit

My youngest daughter's personality is a lot wild.
It resembles my personality the most.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14224 on: October 01, 2012, 01:10:23 AM »
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Quote from: bass on September 30, 2012, 06:20:41 AM
3. and selected capacitor so that the UC and UL, are equal.
I think it is necessary to start with a 15 uF capacitor.
Something must be wrong with that value.

I have done a resonance test with exactly this transformer and I get resonance at 50Hz with a 1.34ÂµF capacitor (3 Ã— 1ÂµF in series parallel to 1ÂµF) on the 230V coil. Both 115V coils not connected.

As frequency generator serves a XR-2206 (VCO) set to 50Hz sine wave. The output voltage is 4.3V effective (via push-pull output stage), the oscilloscope shows 12V peak to peak without resonance (direct connected), current is 2.5mA. With resonance (capacitors in series) the voltage on the primary 230V coil goes up to 14V effective, the oscilloscope shows 38V peak to peak, current is 6.14mA.

According to the LC Resonance Frequency Calculator this means the coil of this transformer has an inductance of 7.56 Henry. Measured on the coil the resonant voltage is 3.17 times higher than without resonance. The resonant current is 2.46 times higher than without resonance.

When resonance causes a higher voltage but at the same time draws a higher current from the supply, then where is the Free Energy?

Seems I got my wires crossed, hence what to do next based on these findings?