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vineet_kiran

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2021, 05:00:18 AM »

First is imagined infinite vibration. A proto-mind filled with vibrations of infinite frequency, infinite amplitude.
This infinite vibration is bound by vibrations of limited frequency and amplitude creating interference patterns along 6 axis of time creating the illusion of 3D space.


Does fields also have natural frequency of vibration?  If so, what is the natural frequency of vibration of magnetic field?  If  you know this, you can simply resonate magnetic field with external frequency, keep a coil near it and generate infinite energy.



Floor

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #76 on: March 21, 2021, 07:50:24 AM »
@LankaIV

I found it a bit difficult to grasp the fundamentals of this
method you posted.   http://www.rexresearch.com/gary/gary1.htm


Although much different than the   user GammaRayburst   presented design @
https://overunity.com/18511/floors-magnets-explained/dlattach/attach/175994/

It seems to me, that the fundamentals of the operations are the same in these two.

Am I understanding the www.rexresearch.com/gary/gary1.htm correctly in this
respect.


   regards
         floor

nix85

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #77 on: March 21, 2021, 12:36:52 PM »
Does fields also have natural frequency of vibration?  If so, what is the natural frequency of vibration of magnetic field?  If  you know this, you can simply resonate magnetic field with external frequency, keep a coil near it and generate infinite energy.

I don't know it's exact frequency, but i do know it's a first child of Primary Light, so it's very close to it and thus extremely high. I doubt any macroscopic object can resonate that high but some nanostructures should (well, electrons do).

lancaIV

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #78 on: March 21, 2021, 02:45:09 PM »
floor,


nix85 delivered Gary related magnetic force line and field related image ,but to think about there is the need to study the total description.


It is attraction/repulsion distance related, in Gary life era probably for most "engineers" something not as knowledge common !

Floor

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #79 on: March 21, 2021, 04:30:09 PM »
No NET work is done against the magnetic forces in the two drawings.

It requires the same amount of energy to slide magnets apart as can be
gained from their sliding together.

But because the peak in the force to displace by sliding, the two magnets
away from one another ....

does not occur at the same time as does the peak in the force of the attracting of
the other two magnets, as they slide toward alignment one over the other.

Very difficult to arrive at a 0 work input against magnetic forces in this
arrangement. 

Because the peaks and troughs are not in synchronization, substantial work
would be done in sliding the two sets of magnets between the two positions
illustrated.

It would otherwise require what ?
A complicated gear system to adjust the force to distance ratios of the motions,
so that the the curves match ?
.......
In a momentum based motion context, the sets of magnets would alternate between
slow down and acceleration. Energy would be spent to over come inertia during the
acceleration.  But because the energy to cause deceleration is not captured in
favor of the momentum, the net worth, would be a loss of energy  / slow down.

Floor

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #80 on: March 21, 2021, 04:36:07 PM »
In these orientations there is a good neutralization / net balance of forces, but only
within a certain band of distance between the two magnet sets.


Floor

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #81 on: March 21, 2021, 06:07:38 PM »
In these magnet orientation, illustrated in 1-2-4, 1-2-5, 1-2-6 jpg illustrations (below),
the N and S poles of magnet #1 are in a near proximity to one another.
The 2 poles / the field is / are majorly / immediately interactive....

as compared to the distance between the N and S poles of magnet
1 and magnet 2 in the 1-2-3 jpg illustration (above).

The distance between the poles has an effect upon the overall interactions / forces,

In drawing 1-2-4, the magnet (#1) is very soon, self shunting between its own poles. 
At a certain point, its own poles are nearer to one another than they are to the pole on
magnet #2.

Also....  in the configuration illustrates in drawing 1-2-4, forces are neutralized in 2 planes
of motion.

see the newtons magnets PDF, attached IMMEDIATELY below...

Floor

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #82 on: March 21, 2021, 06:28:21 PM »
A video demonstration

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

 floor

nix85

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #83 on: March 21, 2021, 07:15:34 PM »
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Floor

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #84 on: March 21, 2021, 10:43:46 PM »
see Newton's Magnets PDF file
attached  below

Floor

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #85 on: March 22, 2021, 04:20:54 PM »
In the next configuration (drawings and video link below) we see separation of the poles
in what is the equivalent of magnet  #1, by virtue of the elongation of the magnet (magnets are stacked).


 Mag Shield 1 video @
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9

Floor

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #86 on: March 23, 2021, 01:06:54 AM »
Short video

To see this last arrangement (above)  functioning

  click

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9

Note...  These designs give cyclic work out from magnets. 

@ Vineet_Kiran

I think that possibly the design given by you at the start of this topic, could
be a working design as well.

https://overunity.com/18140/magnetic-wheel-by-steel-shielding/msg531009/#msg531009

  video @ https://youtu.be/ExygPXDzLow

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  wishes
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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #87 on: March 23, 2021, 03:37:26 AM »
Why are images downloading instead of opening in the browser?

vineet_kiran

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #88 on: March 23, 2021, 05:17:27 AM »
When magnets are arranged as shown in your figure, the center magnet which is used as shield, experiences a rotating moment.  You may have to slightly modify the design to counter that rotating moment.  I shall try it and post the video whether it works or not.

Floor

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #89 on: March 23, 2021, 05:40:16 AM »
@Vineet_kiran

If you are addressing floor, please say so.

The magnets will be pushed and pulled upon by forces,

       in directions other than the desired directions of movement.

This is true of all of the presented designs.

The magnets MUST be held in straight lines of travel.

Also, all of them must remain in 90 degree angle, in relationships to each other.
            NO rotation.

These are not theoretical designs.  The drawings are representations of actual
builds. These are demonstrated in the videos I linked to in my posts in this topic.

best wishes
 floor