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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2021, 03:24:26 PM »
Magnetic lines always close and apparently attraction is slightly stronger than repulsion BUT....

ALL FIELD LINES IN SAME DIRECTION REPEL


Magnetic domains in iron do not align so that they all attract, we find them in all possible directions, that's why they call it randomly oriented.

"magnets are unipolar" Well, if you have a toroidal field there are no poles, so it is not even unipolar, it is nonpolar. As for the carries, there are apparently particles flowing in both directions as Leedskalnin drawn in his "Magnetic Current". If you looked at work of Russel he also depicts gravity and magnetic field as two direction flow. So, yes, gravity and magnetism are both polar when field is open. When fields are closed, there is no sense calling them polar unless you are talking about A-field poles which exist even when there are no classical poles.

Now, regarding gravity. You said Earth is a magnet and we are a piece of iron. That's ok comparison, i'd say our subatomic particles are eddies of force acting as resistors to it's magnetic flow.

With important note that there is an inward stream and outward stream (Hollingshead, Zirbes).

I wrote much more but deleted it cause you have to do your own research if you are really interested into these subjects.

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #61 on: March 18, 2021, 04:35:41 PM »
As far as is known, all objects that have mass can also exert a gravitational force.

Not only does a base ball experience an attracting force by the earth, but the earth
also experiences an attracting force by that baseball.

The more massive an object, the greater is the gravitational force it can exert.
...   ...   ...   ...

Most (if not all) objects have both, a gravitational and a magnetic quality.

Magnets have two poles, while gravity does not.

Magnetic poles that are alike, repel.  There is no comparable or know repelling, in
regard to the gravitational force between objects.  Gravity is not dipolar.

All objects which contain electrons posses some magnetic characteristics.

An electron in motion in relationship to another object which has electrons,
produces a magnetic force.
            OR
An object which has electrons, when IT is in motion, in relationship to an electron
produces a magnetic force.

Attracting and repelling magnetic forces are all around us.  The forces of attraction
and repulsion cancel each other out, in by far, most circumstances.

Magnets become magnets not when magnetic forces are made, but rather magnets
become magnets, when the balance between attracting and repelling forces
within the magnet material, are made to be, no longer in balance.

Magnetic shielding is in reality magnetic shunting.  But while it may not be clear to
everyone... 
                 ALL shielding is shunting. 
Even the "blocking" of a cannon ball by a castle wall is more accurately described as
force shunting, or force redirection, rather than as simply "shielding".

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« Reply #62 on: March 18, 2021, 06:33:01 PM »
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The more massive an object, the greater is the gravitational force it can exert.

Gravity is not just function of mass, there are other factors like strength of the electric and magnetic fields, spin velocity, extent of etheric mass covering the object etc.

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Most (if not all) objects have both, a gravitational and a magnetic quality.

All that exists be it force or "matter" is made of same neutral bubbles (gravity). There is only gravity and it's modalities. When you resist gravity you first get magnetism, then electricity, then electromagnetism, then sound and finally matter. All same substance at different speed.

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All objects which contain electrons posses some magnetic characteristics.
...
An electron in motion in relationship to another object which has electrons,
produces a magnetic force.

"Any moving charges produce magnetic field. Protons, electrons, muons, tauons… whatever."

"besides magnetic field created by movement all (as far as I am aware) particles have spin property which is a magnetic moment property. Protons as well as electrons have  1/2ℏ  spin. Even neutrons that do not have a net charge."

Also, it is more correct to say electron (which is not a particle but system of particles, that is, standing waves) is a deformation of a magnetic field. Magnetic field produces an electron, not the other way around. We perceive a magnetic field around a moving electron cause it is resisting gravity slowing it down into magnetism, which is also why one way to achieve levitation is with extreme currents as in Dotto Constantan ring.

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Magnets become magnets not when magnetic forces are made, but rather magnets
become magnets, when the balance between attracting and repelling forces
within the magnet material, are made to be, no longer in balance.

Yes..."Iron atom has 4 more electrons spinning in one direction, than in the other".

https://youtu.be/bht9AJ1eNYc?t=1490

But what is magnetic force but slowed down gravity. You may as well call gravity magnetism, it's "vertical component".

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #63 on: March 18, 2021, 09:36:36 PM »
Magnets have two poles, while gravity does not.

Magnetic poles that are alike, repel.  There is no comparable or know repelling, in
regard to the gravitational force between objects.  Gravity is not dipolar.

Forgot to address this above altho i said it before. False, false false.

Gravity has 2 poles < geographical south attracting, north repelling, that's why UFOs always come in on Antarctica and leave on North Pole.

There IS gravitational repulsion and it is exactly this what keeps planets, stars, galaxies... apart.

Gravity IS dipolar.

This also reminds me of one incident with Tesla mentioned in Gerry Vassilatos' book.

How Tesla noticed his hand getting sucked in on one side and repelled on another near the axis of a 30kV dynamo spinning at great rpm.

And then there is 3M adhesive tape plant 1980. gravity wall incident

"When he attempted to walk through the corridor formed by the moving film, he was stopped about half way through by an "invisible wall." He could lean all his weight forward but was unable to pass."

http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/e-wall.html

There are tons of accounts like this, Bill Hamilton wrote and spoke about how entrances on the Northrop Anthill facility, Tejon Ranch, California have no doors but two cylinders embedded in the walls which create an invisible forcefield.

George Van Tassel spoke about forcefield stronger than steel made by electrostatic and magnetic fields.

Richard Hoagland spoke how they lost many early satellites because satellites would unexplainably leave their orbits by hundreds of miles because there are BANDS of attracting and repelling gravity around earth.

Speaking of orbits i once calculated the progression of orbits around the sun and to my amazement they too follow the Phi ratio.

Etc.

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #64 on: March 19, 2021, 03:26:53 PM »
Like I said

Magnets have two poles, while gravity does not.

Magnetic poles that are alike, repel.  There is no comparable or know repelling, in
regard to the gravitational force between objects.  Gravity is not dipolar.

All objects which contain electrons posses some magnetic characteristics.

An electron in motion in relationship to another object which has electrons,
produces a magnetic force.
            OR
An object which has electrons, when IT is in motion, in relationship to an electron
produces a magnetic force.

Attracting and repelling magnetic forces are all around us.  The forces of attraction
and repulsion cancel each other out, in by far, most circumstances.

Magnets become magnets not when magnetic forces are made, but rather magnets
become magnets, when the balance between attracting and repelling forces
within the magnet material, are made to be, no longer in balance.

Magnetic shielding is in reality magnetic shunting.  But while it may not be clear to
everyone...
                 ALL shielding is shunting.
Even the "blocking" of a cannon ball by a castle wall is more accurately described as
force shunting, or force redirection, rather than as simply "shielding".

https://overunity.com/18511/floors-magnets-explained/dlattach/attach/175999/
        video @
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9


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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #66 on: March 20, 2021, 10:01:20 AM »
Practically everything you wrote is wrong, no need to repeat myself.

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« Reply #67 on: March 20, 2021, 03:59:09 PM »

Cause and effect, action and reaction, relativity, and other scientific precepts
are first found / originate as principles within  metaphysics.

Described in metaphysical terms.  The universe manifests in planes or stages.

From "higher" to "lower".  And yes, at least in the lower planes, speed or frequency
has a lot to do with that order. 

Differing expressions of those principles arise from differing cultural back grounds,
but the fundamentals of those principles remain essentially the same.

Before time could exist, (as if the word "before" has any meaning except within a
context of time)....

out of unity came a trinity. 
              or
From one came three, and from three came the many.

Those three are called... quantity, difference and relationship
 (in older language numbers, letters, and sound or vibration).

One in essence but three in aspect.

From three came the "many".

The "seven" planes of manifestation.

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Re: Magnetic wheel by steel shielding
« Reply #68 on: March 20, 2021, 04:13:33 PM »
But this topic is about "free energy" from magnets, not metaphysics.

Are there methods by which to effectivly shield magnets,

without expending just as much energy to intall and remove the shielding,

as one can then receive from the magnet repulsion and or attraction ?


si.

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« Reply #69 on: March 20, 2021, 04:50:56 PM »
Gravity is a dipole, bands of attraction and repulsion alternate around the sun and planets creating alternating gravitational valleys where we find planets and asteroids and hills where we find nothing. Like everything in nature orbits follow the progression of Phi.

Spirit is beyond illusion of mind (time space). Spirit creates mind as a negative contrast to appreciate the original bliss.

How to understand the bliss which is beyond time and polarity. You cannot understand it mentally but you can sense it cause it is you and you are forever, indestructible.

How would you create something from literally nothing. Obviously you must simultaneously polarize the "nothing", that is, your consciousness. Brahma (creator), Vishnu (maintainer) and Shiva (destroyer) or +1,0 and -1.

This polarization of nothing allows for creation of time-space.

First is imagined infinite vibration. A proto-mind filled with vibrations of infinite frequency, infinite amplitude.

This infinite vibration is bound by vibrations of limited frequency and amplitude creating interference patterns along 6 axis of time creating the illusion of 3D space.

Creation is divided into 7 great cosmic planes, it has a nesting nature. Scale is so mind boggling it is almost ridiculous but i'll repeat it as described by Bentov.

Our universe +48 similar universes like beads on 7 level spiral make one "cell".

15 such cells form a double tetrahedron structure 1 on top than 3 then 7 then again 3 and again 1 giving a fine-structure constant 137.

Thousands of such structures create one even bigger cell and unknown number of such cells make the FIRST OF 7 GREAT COSMIC PLANES.

You can see the immensity of just first plane, next 6 higher ones are not described by Bentov.

What is important is that at the top of the 7th plane sits in a meditative posture a non responding replica of you. As you merge with your self, bang happens and you realize you have always been the non-manifested consciousness.

In the illusion of physical and metaphysical creation scaling follows the ratio of 7x7 that is 49.

So if you go one level above this one you will find

Speed of light, density of matter and rate of time flow are x49.

This ratio is encoded in the Bible, of course, totally not understood.

It is said 7 (or 7000) is number of God.

7 days (tones) of creation.

Image below is screenshot from Solar System by theosophist Arthur Powell. It shows how smallest particle on our plane (something like Planck constant) contains near 14 billion particles of the first plane and this refers just to first GREAT COSMIC PLANE.



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« Reply #70 on: March 20, 2021, 11:37:15 PM »
Satcitananda

Sat Chit and Anada

One translation, a playful expression, sanskrit to english as existance, consciousness, and bliss.
         or
Quabalistic / Sepher Yetzirah,  Hermetic / The Emerald Tablet of Hermies,  Kybalion / others
as  numbers letters and sound.

But do you want to cyclically, get a net gain in energy, from magnets ?




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« Reply #71 on: March 20, 2021, 11:51:53 PM »
But this topic is about "free energy" from magnets, not metaphysics.

Are there methods by which to effectivly shield magnets,

without expending just as much energy to intall and remove the shielding,

as one can then receive from the magnet repulsion and or attraction ?


si.

As I have said and demonstrated in other posts many times before permanent magnets can do useful work ie OU by overcoming the "sticky spot" BUT that OU that I have achieved has not been enough (over 200%) to feed back into the device and keep it running and provide extra to power something.

So I repeat the OU is easy but the "reset and repeat" another cycle requires over 200% OU according to my measurements.

By now I thought Flynn would have motors all round. What happened to that patent?
Norman


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« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2021, 12:18:40 AM »
Satcitananda - sat is truth, cit ananda consciousness bliss.

This divine energy of Mine, consisting of the three modes of material nature, is dificult to overcome. But those who have surrendered unto Me can easily cross beyond it.

Sri Krishna says in Bhagavad gita 7.14

Man has 18 chakras.

6 chakras of Brahmanda (universal egg) and SachKhanda (paradise)
6 chakras of Anda (astral-sensory planes) (anda = egg)
6 chakras of Pindar (physical body)

Hebrew letters are interference patterns on medium cosmic planes, samskrit letters are interference patterns on the edges of the ultimate sphere of creation, transducers of nothing into something (Bentov).

Brahmarandhra, Aum, the sound that sustains creation.

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« Reply #74 on: March 21, 2021, 01:10:30 AM »
Thanks Floor. I forgot about the GammaRayBurst idea. I have been doing similar things but the gap needs to be small and friction low.  I use either a bicycle crank to pivot the magnet back and forth or a front bicycle axle because they are both strong without much play to get close tolerances. You cannot have contact and wheels have lots of  friction loss.  Also to move a magnet a good distance to achieve the action causes a large loss in work x distance. So I try to achieve the movements with as little magnet movement as possible so the work loss is lower. For example moving a magnet over the pivot of a metal seesaw to lift and drop back and forth. 

I'll see how the GammaRayBurst idea compares with what I have on the bench now.

Norman


 

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