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Offline Low-Q

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #90 on: August 26, 2019, 12:43:56 PM »
I am surprised that so few people seem to see the possible benefits from all the research you have done.  As far as I can tell only Norman and Brad and I have actually tried to apply what you have shared.  I think Brad has lost interest but hopefully Norman  will be back at it as soon as he recovers from his heart attack.  I will be back at it before long.


Carroll
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Floors intensions is just to post his findings, but doesn't claim that this can lead to overunity. Rotary concepts has already been demonstrated, and doesn't work.
However, it is more ways of doing this. Not only the rotary one.
I have not got sufficient time to do much lately, partially because I still wait for bearings for my own project, and there has been lots of preparing for my daughter's confirmation that was celebrated yesterday. Also, the summer has been busy painting railings around the porch.
I expect that it will be more time to do projects from now on, including some ideas I have with Floors findings.


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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #90 on: August 26, 2019, 12:43:56 PM »

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2019, 10:37:58 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Floors intensions is just to post his findings, but doesn't claim that this can lead to overunity.

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Hi Low Q

This topic "Newton's magnets" is intended to show
                               proofs of
force neutralization between magnets along specific vectors.
                                 not
                         over unity proofs


Force neutralization between magnets along specific vectors
                          is not in and of itself,  over unity.

                But it can be used to arrive at over unity by magnets.

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2019, 09:48:59 PM »
                                         Newton's magnets
                                              Equal and opposite forces.

It requires the same energy expenditure to pull two magnets in attraction apart,
as those magnets delivered during their attraction to each other.
                     But allso
Because Newtons laws are valid, and because of the  two pole nature of permanent magnets...........

We can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those  magnets.  To see an example of this illustrated,  open the PDF attached below.


1. To see Newton's magnets actually done, watch this video, titled "amazeing"  @
                          https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

2. or this variation of the Newton's magnets, watch this video, titled "RtAngSld"   @
                          https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978                         

3. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video,
titled "TDForceDiagramed"

                            at 2 minutes and 50 seconds into the video
watch                  https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

4. or to see yet another, completely different method of neutralizing magnet actions (by brute force)
see this video @
                             https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9

5. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video, titled "TDForceDiagramed"

6. or watch this video titled "direct approach"  @
                                                                        https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xgiez

7. or this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 1"  @
                                                                       https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0md2

8. or  this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 2"  @
                                                                       https://www.dailymotion.com/videox7f0o4w
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                                   SEE THIS "Newton's magnets" PDF BELOW
                https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/171711/

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2019, 09:48:59 PM »
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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #93 on: January 10, 2020, 08:50:07 PM »

Here are some additional descriptions.

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #94 on: January 14, 2020, 08:09:13 PM »
There was an error in the the Newtons magnets PDF file / drawing
    (magnet orientation illustrated as reversed)

here is the fix attached below.
       
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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #94 on: January 14, 2020, 08:09:13 PM »
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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #95 on: January 15, 2020, 01:53:08 PM »
If you say Newton magnets, i think it's the same as the Coulomb model. In the Coulomb model, each pole has a perfectly spherical field. This means that anything, in relation to any pole, is in its spherical field. No matter how many poles are nearby. This means a complete symmetry, and thus theoretically there cannot be overunity in such model. Overunity thus needs some asymmetry, that is some non-Coulomb irregularity.

You may go on no matter how clever with that model, balance magnets in no matter how many complicated ways, none of that can provide overunity, because the system is inherently symmetric. You may not like what i said, but please also listen to the theoretical points of view of the others. You are always free to criticize my work.


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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #96 on: January 15, 2020, 09:04:02 PM »
@ eyeeye

If you do, due dilagence in your topic / measurements you will find that it requires more work to separate
two magnets in attraction form one another, when they are slid side ways, than the work done when they
are pulled directly apart.

Although peak force is greater when pulling them directly apart.

This is not true of all magnet shapes and polar orientations.  It is generally true of wafer shaped ceramic magnets,
when the poles are on the broad faces (like the ones I most commonly use).
 
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« Reply #96 on: January 15, 2020, 09:04:02 PM »
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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #97 on: March 24, 2020, 09:16:25 PM »

                                         Newton's magnets
                                              Equal and opposite forces.

It requires the same energy expenditure to pull two magnets in attraction apart,
as those magnets delivered during their attraction to each other.
                     But allso
Because Newtons laws are valid, and because of the  two pole nature of permanent magnets...........

We can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those  magnets.  To see an example of this illustrated,  open the PDF attached below.


1. To see Newton's magnets actually done, watch this video, titled "amazeing"  @
                          https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

2. or this variation of the Newton's magnets, watch this video, titled "RtAngSld"   @
                          https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978                         

3. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video,
titled "TDForceDiagramed"

                            at 2 minutes and 50 seconds into the video
watch                  https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

4. or to see yet another, completely different method of neutralizing magnet actions (by brute force)
see this video @
                             https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9

5. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video, titled "TDForceDiagramed"

6. or watch this video titled "direct approach"  @
                                                                        https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xgiez

7. or this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 1"  @
                                                                       https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0md2

8. or  this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 2"  @
                                                                       https://www.dailymotion.com/videox7f0o4w
        floor
                                   SEE THIS "Newton's magnets" PDF BELOW
                https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/171711/


                               https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/174720/

                        best wishes
                                      floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #98 on: March 24, 2020, 09:51:31 PM »
We can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those  magnets.

Not exactly, but yes, not doing work against the sum of forces because the forces balance. But when we hold one pole of the first magnet against the side of the second magnet. Then when moving the first magnet away, the repulsion force between the first magnet and one pole of the second magnet, does work. And we work against the attraction force between the first magnet and another pole of the second magnet. But these works are equal and done in the opposite directions, as the result the total work done is zero.


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Re: Newton's Magnets
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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #99 on: March 26, 2020, 05:27:42 AM »

                                         Newton's magnets
                                              Equal and opposite forces.

It requires the same energy expenditure to pull two magnets in attraction apart,
as those magnets delivered during their attraction to each other.
                     But allso
Because Newtons laws are valid, and because of the  two pole nature of permanent magnets...........

We can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those  magnets.  To see an example of this illustrated,  open the PDF attached below.


1. To see Newton's magnets actually done, watch this video, titled "amazeing"  @
                          https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

2. or this variation of the Newton's magnets, watch this video, titled "RtAngSld"   @
                          https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978                         

3. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video,
titled "TDForceDiagramed"

                            at 2 minutes and 50 seconds into the video
watch                  https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

4. or to see yet another, completely different method of neutralizing magnet actions (by brute force)
see this video @
                             https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9

5. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video, titled "TDForceDiagramed"

6. or watch this video titled "direct approach"  @
                                                                        https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xgiez

7. or this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 1"  @
                                                                       https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0md2

8. or  this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 2"  @
                                                                       https://www.dailymotion.com/videox7f0o4w
        floor
                                   SEE THIS "Newton's magnets" PDF BELOW
                https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/171711/


                               https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/174720/

                        best wishes
                                      floor

 

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