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citfta

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #75 on: August 06, 2019, 08:04:54 PM »
@ all readers

On a more personal note, I guess its high time that I accept and
acknowledge the contributions and support of the others involved. 

             And .....

Since this stuff really is open source and since any one may do with it
as THEY see fit,  well then I guess I need to get out of the way, respect,
and know that my peers, really do know what they are doing, just as much as I.
          And ...
To for me to relax have some fun and some f ing gratitude for it all !
             . 
You guys got this ?
             .....
           Ok, Thanks

 floor

Yes!  Thanks so much for all your hard work and testing.  And most especially thanks for sharing what you have learned.  I plan to continue working with the ideas you have shared to see how far I can take what I have learned from you.

Thanks again!
Carroll

gyulasun

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #76 on: August 06, 2019, 10:01:38 PM »
Hi Floor,
I second what Carroll just wrote above and also thank your unselfish attitude by sharing your observations on such magnetic setups.  Hopefully you come back often and please do not feel bad about bluntness, witlessness you got from a few members here.
Gyula

Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #77 on: August 07, 2019, 10:14:12 PM »
Newtons laws are NOT valid ....


You have been brain stamped with Education DOGMA..  Now what So called scientists have rubber stamped
this in to all educational forms is impossible to remove..  Now this is not an insult on you, just a shock
reset if you can think out beyond that mind prison construct..  I was there too...


I will not say any more as I an not an educator to anyone... Take care..


Acca...

Thanks Acca I hear what you say.

I think that Newtons observations were valid (within a non  Einstein-ian perspective)

But I would also say that, a thousand and one erroneous conclusions have been drawn from
Newtons observations.
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Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #78 on: August 09, 2019, 11:13:08 PM »
This is a video of the VERY FIRST, linear motion, reciprocating motion, completion of each motion before the next motion begins ...... design,
which I presented  in September 2018.

                           its a brief video     @
                  https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9

This was the first and is still the very best of the designs of this class or type of design.   (September 2018) Slow train coming I guess.
..........................
             Another brief video, demonstrating a variation of the magnetic force neutralization along a specific direction, by balancing
attraction and repulsion.
                                 @
             https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xgiez

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citfta

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #79 on: August 10, 2019, 12:31:21 AM »
Hi Floor,

Thanks for reposting those videos.  I do not remember seeing the first one before.  That gives me another idea to try.  I have been taking apart and reassembling my test fixture to try different configurations for the magnets.  I am trying to get the most repelling force between the repelling magnets and the least amount of force needed to remove and insert the shield magnet.  Although I haven't posted much lately I am still working on this project.  At the current time it is the only project I am working on except for the usual household chores like mowing the grass and other chores.

Thanks again for sharing.
Carroll

Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #80 on: August 10, 2019, 10:36:17 PM »
@ citfta

The shield magnet in the

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9   

video is configured like this attached PDF file

In my build I used  two magnets glued together edge to edge in a repulsion.
(I didn't have a single magnet broad enough).  This of course damaged
those two magnets over time.

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Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #81 on: August 10, 2019, 10:38:04 PM »
Here is the PDF file again.....

So easy to miss.  It looks like the label for the png drawing.....

Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #82 on: August 10, 2019, 10:45:56 PM »

  I do not remember seeing the first one before. 
Carroll

I took down the original posting of it, because in the context in which I was thinking about
those interactions, I thought I would need to use two complimeting devices.  That idea did
not pan out.

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citfta

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #83 on: August 12, 2019, 12:51:55 PM »
I have done some rough testing using the idea from the magforshield pdf you posted.  Based on the results I have ordered some larger magnets to use as the shield magnet.  I ordered a couple of different thicknesses to see what effect that has on the  shielding ability.  I also now have another idea to try with one fixed magnet and the shield magnet and the other repelling magnet free to move when the shield magnet is removed.  I want to see how much more or less movement I get when only one magnet is allowed to move.  That build will also be based on the magforshield pdf.  Until I saw your video you reposted I did not realize  you could get that strong of repulsion with the magnets oriented that way.

Take care.
Carroll

Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #84 on: August 14, 2019, 08:47:07 PM »
@citfta

There is no "magforshield pdf "  uploaded by me.  Search for it and see for your self.

There is a MagforShield 1b.pdf. 

Everyone please try to be more precise and clear in the communications.

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Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #85 on: August 14, 2019, 08:49:54 PM »
@citfta

Lets please keep these discussions to the Magnets Motion and Measurement topic.

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Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #86 on: August 20, 2019, 11:20:17 PM »
                                                   Newton's magnets
                                              Equal and opposite forces.

It requires the same energy expenditure to pull two magnets in attraction apart,
as those magnets delivered during their attraction to each other.
                     But also
Because Newtons laws are valid, and because of the  two pole nature of permanent magnets...........

We can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those  magnets.  To see an example of this illustrated,  open the PDF attached below.


1.  To see Newton's magnets actually done, watch this video, titled "amazeing"  @
                                                                                                                              https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

2. or this variation of the Newton's magnets, watch this video, titled "RtAngSld"   @
                                                                                                                              https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978                         

3. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video, titled "TDForceDiagramed" 
                           at 2 minutes and 50 seconds into the video watch               
                                                                                                           @   https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

4. or watch this video titled "direct approach"  @
                                                                        https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xgiez

5. or this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 1"  @
                                                                                                             https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0md2

6. or  this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 2"  @
                                                                                                   https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0o4w

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                                   SEE THIS PDF BELOW
https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/171711/

Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #87 on: August 21, 2019, 10:31:28 PM »


Here is that PDF file "Newtons magnets"

Floor

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #88 on: August 25, 2019, 05:43:48 PM »
I don't have anything to add at this point.  Honestly, I am poping this
topic back up, because I think its worth doing so.

    floor

citfta

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Re: Newton's Magnets
« Reply #89 on: August 25, 2019, 06:13:49 PM »
I am surprised that so few people seem to see the possible benefits from all the research you have done.  As far as I can tell only Norman and Brad and I have actually tried to apply what you have shared.  I think Brad has lost interest but hopefully Norman  will be back at it as soon as he recovers from his heart attack.  I will be back at it before long.


Carroll