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Author Topic: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1  (Read 248514 times)

George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #300 on: June 21, 2020, 11:20:37 AM »
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Hi Floor,
Thank you for your post.
Electrolysis under pressure? Why not? Any idea?

George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #301 on: June 21, 2020, 11:29:38 AM »
LET US PUSH FORWARD TOGETHER THE TECHNOLOGY PROGRESS!
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1) Firstly," IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?" and "A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1" must win public recognition and become an integral part of any standard textbook/manual of physics as quickly as possible. Besides our team (or at least one member of our team) must become a Nobel prize winner as this Nobel prize's money will used ENTIRELY for charity.
2) After realizing of previous item 1 we will release absolutely free the secret of our third invention (both theory and experiment) as well as the secrets of our next seven revolutionary and technology breakthrough inventions.
3) Thirdly, if the above item 1 is not realized successfully, then we will get back to the money-related variation, that is, the price of our third invention is $40,000,000 and this price will further rise in the nearest future.
4) In one word, the realization of the above item 1 is actually a test for the stage of mental development of humankind. If the above item 1 is not realized soon, then this means that human society in general and its intelectual and scientific elite in particular are still at a primitive stage of mental development as they cannot properly evaluate obvious truths and revolutionary technology breakthroughs.
5) So do your best to help realizing the above item 1 as quickly as possible. Otherwise the price of our third invention is $40,000,000 and this price will further rise in the nearest future.
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #302 on: June 27, 2020, 02:51:45 PM »
Hi everyone,
It is really surprising that obvious scientific truths cannot gain popularity quickly and easily among the members of the official science community. Do you have an explanation of this absurd fact?
Anyway let us repeat again the text of our last post with some small corrections and additions.
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1) Firstly," IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?" and "A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1" must win public recognition and become an integral part of any standard textbook/manual of physics as quickly as possible. Besides our team (or at least one member of our team) must become a Nobel prize winner as this Nobel prize's money will used ENTIRELY for charity.
2) After realizing of previous item 1 we will release absolutely free the secret of our third invention (both theory and experiment) as well as the secrets of our next seven revolutionary and technology breakthrough inventions.
3) Thirdly, if the above item 1 is not realized successfully, then we will get back to the money-related variation, that is, the price of our third invention is ALREADY $50,000,000 and this price will further rise in the nearest future.
4) In one word, the realization of the above item 1 is actually a test for the stage of mental development of humankind. If the above item 1 is not realized soon, then this means that human society in general and its intelectual and scientific elite in particular are still at a primitive stage of mental development as they cannot properly evaluate obvious truths and revolutionary technology breakthroughs.
5) So do your best to help realizing the above item 1 as quickly as possible. Otherwise the price of our third invention is $50,000,000 and this price will further rise in the nearest future. (BUT PLEASE DO NOT THINK THAT WE ARE PATHOLOGICALLY GREEDY. ON THE CONTRARY! THE GREATER PART OF THESE $50,000,000 WILL BE USED FOR CHARITY AND ONLY A SMALL PART WILL BE USED FOR SOME R&D WORK.)
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George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #303 on: July 04, 2020, 12:54:17 PM »
We tend to think that most of the official science community members are a kind of mafia, which oppresses and stops the technology progress. It is absolutely sure, of course,  that there are exceptions, but how to find them? Anyway let us repeat again the text of our previous post.
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1) Firstly," IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?" and "A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1" must win public recognition and become an integral part of any standard textbook/manual of physics as quickly as possible. Besides our team (or at least one member of our team) must become a Nobel prize winner as this Nobel prize's money will used ENTIRELY for charity.
2) After realizing of previous item 1 we will release absolutely free the secret of our third invention (both theory and experiment) as well as the secrets of our next seven revolutionary and technology breakthrough inventions.
3) Thirdly, if the above item 1 is not realized successfully, then we will get back to the money-related variation, that is, the price of our third invention is $50,000,000 and this price will further rise in the nearest future.
4) In one word, the realization of the above item 1 is actually a test for the stage of mental development of humankind. If the above item 1 is not realized soon, then this means that human society in general and its intelectual and scientific elite in particular are still at a primitive stage of mental development as they cannot properly evaluate obvious truths and revolutionary technology breakthroughs.
5) So do your best to help realizing the above item 1 as quickly as possible. Otherwise the price of our third invention is $50,000,000 and this price will further rise in the nearest future. (Let us remind again the greater part of these $50,000,000 will be used for charity and only a small part will be used for some R&D work.)
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #304 on: July 04, 2020, 01:38:09 PM »
Hi everyone,
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The text below can be found in many of our previous posts. Anyway let us repeat it again.
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Have a look again at the book "Solved Problems in Physics", 2004, Volume 2, p. 876, solved problem 12.97. The author of this book is Prof. S. L. Srivastava (Ph.D.)
The same book can be found at the link https://books.google.bg/books?id=rrKFzLB9KQ8C&pg=PA876&lpg=PA876&dq=%22electrochemical+equivalent+of+hydrogen%22&source=bl&ots=tQ8PSMLet3&sig=ACfU3U2HOLB78XHl2o3q-JanapzSK-McJA&hl=bg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDpp2-zZXhAhWT5OAKHUfuBzUQ6AEwBHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22electrochemical%20equivalent%20of%20hydrogen%22&f=false
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For your convenience I am giving below the text of the problem and its solution.
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12.97. In the electrolysis of sulphuric acid solution, 100 mg of hydrogen is liberated in a period of 20 minutes. The resistance of the electrolyte is 0.5 Ohm. Calculate the power consumed. Electrochemical equivalent of hydrogen is 1.044 x 10 -8 kg/C.
Solution: The power consumed is equal to 31.86 W.
Prof. S. L. Srivastava stops here his calculations.
(The related solution's set of equations is not given here in order to save time and space. This set of equations however can be found in the book or in the link above.)
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WE DEVELOPED FURTHER PROF. SRIVASTAVA'S SOLVED PROBLEM IN A NON-STANDARD MANNER.
OUR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF PROF. SRIVASTAVA'S SOLVED PROBLEM LED TO COP > 1.
HERE IS THE ESSENCE OF OUR APPROACH.
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1) Let us calculate the inlet energy, that is, inlet energy = (31.86 W) x (1200 s) = 38232 Ws = 38232 J.
2) Let us calculate the current I. The current I is given by I = (m)/(Z x t) = 7.9 A,
where
m = 0.0001kg of hydrogen
Z = electrochemical equivalent of hydrogen
t = 1200 s
3) The Joule's heat, generated in the process of electrolysis is given by
Q = I x I x R x t = (7.9 A) x (7.9 A) x (0.5 Ohm) x (1200 s) = 37446 J = outlet energy 1.
4) HHV of hydrogen is 142 000 000 J/kg. Therefore the heat H, generated by burning/exploding of 0.0001 kg of hydrogen, is given by
H = (142 000 000) x (0.0001) = 14200 J = outlet energy 2.
5) Therefore we can write down the equalities:
5A) outlet energy 1 + outlet energy 2 = 37446 J + 14200 J = 51646 J
5B) inlet energy = 38232 J.
6) Therefore COP is given by
COP = 51646 J/38232 J = 1.35 <=> COP = 1.35 <=> COP > 1.
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Constant pure water and cooling agent supply could keep constant the electrolyte's temperature, heat exchange, mass and ohmic resistance, respectively.
Besides 0.0001 kg of hydrogen (and the related amount of the already split pure water) is small enough and can be neglected as a factor influencing the electrolyte's temperature, mass and ohmic resisitance.
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And one more interesting fact.
Literally the same solved problem can be found in an old Russian (still from the Soviet times) book "Сборник задач и вопросов по физике", 1986, p. 130, solved example problem 71. The authors of this book are Р. А. Гладкова and Н. И. Кутиловская. In the Russian version the data is a little different, that is, time is 25 minutes, the amount of generated hydrogen is 150 mg, Ohmic resisitance is 0.4 Ohm and the calculated power is 37 W.
Russians also stopped their calculations at 37 W.
Our further development of the Russian version led to COP = 1.37, that is, we have again COP > 1.
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Therefore the text above unambiguously shows that it is a matter of exact experimental data which is in perfect accordance with theory. Because I cannot imagine that three highly qualified experts in physics (yet strongly separated by time, space and nationality) would have made one and same mistake three times in a row. This is impossible!"
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Do you have any theoretical (ONLY THEORETICAL!) objections against the text above?
YES OR NO?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #305 on: July 04, 2020, 06:37:53 PM »
why is no one answering? Is this person talking nonsense?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #306 on: July 11, 2020, 02:29:29 PM »
To kolbacict.
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You are obviously an absolute amateur in the field of physics. Or even worse -- you are a person of bad will and most likely an agent of the BIG OIL/BIG MAFIA. It's a shame! How much did they pay you?   

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #307 on: July 11, 2020, 02:45:04 PM »
COP = 1.35 and COP = 1.37. A simple obvious fact. It unambiguously shows the incorrectness of the law of conservation of energy. (But you have to be a highly qualified expert in electrical engineering and in electrochemistry (or in physics as a whole) in order to understand what we are talking about.)
And yet the above mentioned obvious fact (COP = 1.35 and COP = 1.37) cannot gain popularity quickly and easily among the members of the official science community. Do you have an explanation of this absurd situation?
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P. S. Please look at our post of  July 04, 2020, 01:38:09 PM, in order to understand how the two equalities COP = 1.35 and COP = 1.37 has been generated.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #308 on: July 11, 2020, 04:52:44 PM »
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You are obviously an absolute amateur in the field of physics.
This is mostly true.
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an agent of the BIG OIL/BIG MAFIA.
But this is not so. :)
I'm just wondering why the other participants are silent?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #309 on: July 18, 2020, 01:15:05 PM »
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Hi friend,
First of all I need to apologize for being as if a little more rude than necessary. It's my fault. Please excuse me for my, let's say to some extent, inadequate behaviour.
Secondly, the other participants (WHO ARE EXPERTS IN PHYSICS!) are silent because of one single and obvious reason. And this reason is the unambiguous and iron-made fact that our concept clearly shows that any standard hydrogen generating electrolyzer is actually a heater which has efficiency bigger than 1. (COP = 1.35 and COP = 1.37.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George 
 

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #310 on: July 25, 2020, 09:20:43 AM »
Deep silence again? What happens here in this forum? Aren't there any brave and competent (ENOUGH!) people here in this forum who are ready to accept the simple and obvious truth that the law of conservation of energy is not correct?
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #311 on: August 01, 2020, 10:16:36 AM »
Hi guys,
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1) COP = 1.35. This means that the inlet energy is 1 J and the outlet energy is 1.35 J. Simple and clear.
2) COP = 1.37. This means that the inlet energy is 1 J and the outlet energy is 1.37 J. Simple and clear again.
3) In one word, there is an iron-made theoretical (THEORETICAL ONLY!) evidence that the law of conservation of energy is not correct in this particular case.
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How to explain the things in a simpler and easier manner?
George

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #312 on: August 08, 2020, 10:54:01 AM »
I wonder when in this forum will appear at least one brave person who will dare to say: "Yes, any standard hydrogen generating electrolyzer is OBVIOUSLY AND WITH NO DOUBT a simple electric heater, which has efficiency greater than 1." Where are you, brave forum members?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #313 on: August 15, 2020, 11:27:59 AM »
COP = 1.35. This means that the inlet energy is 1 J and the outlet energy is 1.35 J. Simple and clear. How long will it take for our concept to win public recognition?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #314 on: August 17, 2020, 12:31:40 PM »
Even if your electrolyzer has a heat efficiency of 1.37, heat pumps (freon) have it even higher. >3
am i right? What is the advantage of an electrolyser?