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Author Topic: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1  (Read 248582 times)

George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #225 on: November 17, 2019, 04:34:37 PM »
Hi smOky2,
Thanks a lot again for praising of my enthusiasm, which is by the way a characteristic feature of any member our team!
As far as I could understand you develop further the concept related to the hydrogen generating heater. Sounds interesting! Would you be polite to be more specific?
We are ready for cooperation.
Looking forward to your answer.
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George


sm0ky2

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #226 on: November 17, 2019, 10:05:40 PM »
Quite simply put, the phase change from liquid to gas changes the pressure.
If the electrolyzer is sealed, that pressure quickly builds up.
It can then be used to operate a hydraulic system of your design.
This energy is generally wasted or gone unnoticed.

George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #227 on: November 23, 2019, 09:32:29 AM »
Hi smOky2,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
Your idea is really original and very, very interesting! Yes, you are absolutely right that the pressure of the released hydrogen (and may be oxygen?) is able to generate energy by using some kind of hydraulic construction. Any suggestions for how to design a simple experimental laboratory system?
Welcome in our team!
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George   

kolbacict

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #228 on: November 23, 2019, 10:11:26 AM »
Well yes. Fill the ladles with ROSH  with this gas. :)

George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #229 on: November 23, 2019, 10:56:40 AM »
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Is this a joke :) or you have some constructive suggestion? What is ROSH?

kolbacict

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #230 on: November 23, 2019, 01:12:34 PM »
https://overunity.com/15773/gaia-rosch-aukw-auftriebskraftwerk-kpp-why-it-does-not-work/
Hi. no a joke
It will definitely work with gas from electrolysis, but it will be ineffective.

George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #231 on: November 24, 2019, 02:06:11 PM »
Hi, it will take some time to consider the things carefully. You claim that it is ineffective. Why do you think so?

kolbacict

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #232 on: November 24, 2019, 02:36:38 PM »
in comparison with the compressor and compressed air, the volume of NGOs is orders of magnitude smaller.but it can be burned after lifting our bucket up. And return the energy spent by the electrolyzer. Unlike air.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #233 on: November 25, 2019, 08:38:23 PM »

I think you are talking about the below which has been posted on this forum a number of times but not yet built to my knowledge.
I looked into this years ago but for me the scale was too big to get into.
https://overunity.com/8047/buoyancy-cycle-mg-where-the-h-is-free/msg201083/#msg201083
There are a few drawings and discussion at the above link.
GSM

kolbacict

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #234 on: November 26, 2019, 10:14:09 AM »
https://overunity.com/8047/buoyancy-cycle-mg-where-the-h-is-free/dlattach/attach/37748/image//
Yes, about that I mean.
And what conclusion have you come to that topic?
Have OU ?

George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #235 on: November 30, 2019, 08:44:29 AM »
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Hi guys,
Thank you for your replies. Please give me some time to consider carefully the links you have sent.
I will write to you in the nearest future.
Regards,
George1

George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #236 on: November 30, 2019, 08:49:35 AM »
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Hi smOky2,
Where did you disappear my friend?Any suggestions for how to design a simple experimental laboratory system related to your idea?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George

sm0ky2

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #237 on: December 03, 2019, 02:29:15 AM »
Two sealed chambers connected by a hydraulic cylinder with a long stroke.
In one side: the electrolysis chamber builds up pressure as it generates gas.
On side 2, the piston compresses air, to be used as an energy storage medium.
Both chambers will maintain equal pressure.


If the piston is held in place, chamber 1 can be evacuated of the fuel gas,
to be used as an energy storage medium.


The compressed air can be stored in another container, chamber 2 allowed to return to 1ATM
and the piston returned to the equilibrium position.


For the cycle to begin again.

sm0ky2

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #238 on: December 03, 2019, 02:31:02 AM »
At the end of each cycle, you have discrete quantities of stored energy.
Which can be measured and compared to the input.


The fuel cell equation for electrolysis and reversal:
Already accounts for 100% of the electricity.


The energy stored in the pressure chamber is in excess of “Unity”, by default.

George1

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #239 on: December 07, 2019, 02:31:14 PM »
Hi smOky2,
Thank you for your reply.
Yes, this design seems to be perfectly workable. Some calculations related to (1) the length of the stroke, (2) the sealed chambers dimensions and form and (3) the generation of hydrogen (and may be oxygen?) per unit of time? This would be an interesting three-components correlation.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George