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Author Topic: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1  (Read 38165 times)

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #150 on: May 11, 2019, 02:27:58 PM »
Well, all links you have sent to me contain complex and sophisticated machines both as a theoretical conception and as a practical realization. Are there any working prototypes of these machines?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #151 on: May 12, 2019, 04:34:24 PM »
"Sophisticated" !?
10 000 000 US$/Euros patent  fees ( lump sum ) ~ 200 000 000 US$/Euros FOB factory selling prices                                  5% royalty calculation

x factor 2 :         standart ware  end consumer price
x factor 6,10 : " exclusive" ware end consumer price

As inventor you have investor, producer and endconsumer responsibility !
                                     win : win : win : win ratio

to make all glad , this is a wonder , husiastic or enthusiastic !

Competition : heater, hydrogen generator

f. e.  http://www.rexresearch.com/eccles/1eccles.htm
                          Their technology is/ will be in next "open source".

               Many alternatives and concepts :
           https://overunity.com/electrolysis-of-h20-and-hydrogen-on-demand-generation/

Today to get a patent granted is anymore easy,  the disclosure must be new,  global new  !

And never published :
so beside the WIPO-archiv " patent lawyer" has also to search in the global "Honor-Title" "Dipl.-/Dr./Master "- archives( Promotion,Dissertation,Habilitation)  !

The patent office can grant an application, but there is no warranty of validity of this act  !
« Last Edit: May 12, 2019, 08:47:47 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #152 on: May 13, 2019, 10:00:31 AM »
http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/
ENERGY IMPULSE SECRETS
" electron emits photon"

page 12 (35) (36) : physical volume comparison


Is the electron volume part from the photon volume  ?
Is the photon the electron his circumspherical heatwave , " Protuberanz" ?
Phonon, without volume?  Definition. ! photon/ phonon ratio
Physical lifetime from electron,  photon, phonon  ? actio/reactio in Fermi-seconds and Nanometers

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon
   https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon                Ist die elementare Anregung (Quant)  eines elastischen Feldes

Enthusiasmus : becoming Quant-izised by something,  somebody to max.  stage : Ekstase or Delirium

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Physics can hypnotize people with electrodynamic waves/ vibrations/ oscillations  !
But also in written/ broadcasted texture can be " hidden dynamic", ' sleeper awake' principle.

Our economy : from 100 trials 1 success and 99 fails

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #152 on: May 13, 2019, 10:00:31 AM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #153 on: May 14, 2019, 01:04:57 PM »
Hi lancaIV,
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1) First of all thank you for your last two posts. They are much detailed and full of interesting information. We will need some time to consider carefully you last two posts.
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2) Actually our two topics "A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1" and "IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?" could not be strictly considered as inventions. These two topics only reveal to the public two theoretical and fundamental scientific research works which can be successfully used (a) as a basic principle of operation of an extremely effective electric heater and (b) as a basic principle of operation of an extremely effective reactionless drive and/or energy generator, respectively. Our aim is to attract attention to our team as a generator of good technology ideas and projects. Our next project however can already be considered as an invention. It has an undeniable theoretical scientific foundation and a working prototype, which is practically ready for production on a large industrial scale. And we do not intend to patent it. We intend to sell it as a know-how. Our price is $10,000,000 (ten million dollars.)
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Looking forward to your answer.
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George

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #154 on: May 14, 2019, 04:03:51 PM »
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2) Actually our two topics "A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1" and "IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?" could not be strictly considered as inventions. These two topics only reveal to the public ...
... your incompetence!

This two topics only reveal your incompetence in physics and they are fundamentally erroneous, nothing more!
I finally agree with you for once! Of course they could not be considered as inventions. lol


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Our next project however can already be considered as an invention. It has an undeniable theoretical scientific foundation and a working prototype, which is practically ready for production on a large industrial scale. And we do not intend to patent it. We intend to sell it as a know-how. Our price is $10,000,000 (ten million dollars.)

I think your aim is to scam people so please cut the crap.

Nonetheless, if you think you have an invention to sell, please get out and go elsewhere. Here, we share information for free. Can you understand such a simple and yet marvelous concept: "share for free"? 
 
And since there is no one here besides you, start using "I/me/mine", instead of "we/ours". Ok, your majesty? lol
 

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #154 on: May 14, 2019, 04:03:51 PM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #155 on: May 14, 2019, 04:49:33 PM »
tinu,
You are a pathological hater. You need a doctor. You have a very serious problem. You will be punished by your masters from the BIG OIL.


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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #156 on: May 15, 2019, 09:39:22 AM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #157 on: May 15, 2019, 02:20:58 PM »
Yes, I know  !
https://www.google.com/search?q=heatpad+swine&client=firefox-b-m&prmd=ivns&ei=vfvbXNXqMZnkgweQxa_gCg&start=10&sa=N
page 2 : " Energy Consumption of heat pads.....  "
page 3 : " COMPARISON OF HEAT LAMP...  "

different power consume levels for the similar/ as same ambiental condition !
                  Up to -75% less ( pad/ lamp)  or 300% more consume( lamp/ pad) !


Not included differences between heat lamps and differences between heat pads comparison. !
And heat pad temperature controller quality. !
[65 Watt heat pad x  0,6 ( Filip controler) x 0,75 ( CNT savings versus metal conductor) / 175 Watt heat lamp ]
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https://web.archive.org/web/20160223060648/http://filip-tech.de/
his pads/ IR panels  improved efficiency : before 1000 W, all improvements  inclusive,after :  in average 165 W
for humans,animals and liquids

Leveling the consume-peak down gives us the possibility to use solar cell voltaic heating,  in-house photo-voltaic :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Paul+marzahn&IN=&CPC=&IC=

Low cost electric heat pads : AC
https://m.alibaba.com/showroom/electric-heating-pad.html

            as resistor-net :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20041118&CC=WO&NR=2004100349A1&KC=A1#
Savings expected,  but how much !?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #158 on: May 15, 2019, 03:19:22 PM »
Hi lancaIV,
Thank you for your reply.
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You are always well-informed about the latest and best technology breakthroughs. Congratulations for this ability of yours!
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I have been considering carefully the Filip Tech GmbH website. 
Peter Filip has written in his website that: ".....Our products offer an optimum for humans and animals with up to 50% less power consumption than other heating systems....." But if this is true and if the amount of the generated heat is preserved, then Mr. Filip's devices manifest COP = 200 %. Because if a standard copper wire is connected to a battery and consequently a DC current flows through it, then it generates heat. The electric energy, generated by the battery, entirely transforms into heat, that is, if the battery generates electric energy of 100 J, then the copper wire will generate 100 J of heat. And the COP of this system will be: COP = (100/100) x 100 = 100%.
If however the inlet electric energy is reduced to 50 J and if at the same time the outlet heat remains 100 J, then the COP of this system will 200 %, that is, COP = (100/50) x 100 = 200 %. This is correct, isn't it?
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Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
   

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #158 on: May 15, 2019, 03:19:22 PM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #159 on: May 16, 2019, 10:08:27 AM »
Hi lancaIV,
1) What is your opinion about COP, which is manifested by Filip Tech GmbH's heaters? COP > 1, isn't it?
2) The same for Prof. Kanarev's devices. His approach to electrolysis is different from ours, but despite of this his machines and conceptions as if clearly show that COP > 1 is perfectly possible.
3) It seems to us that there is an INDIRECT worldwide inventors' pressure and attack against some basic postulates of physics. These basic postulates are true and correct IN GENERAL, of course, but at the same time they as if need some further development and update (as quantum mechanics is a further development and update of Newtonian mechanics for example). Don't you think so?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
         

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #160 on: May 16, 2019, 01:43:22 PM »
1000 W to 270 W to 180-150 W object- + space-heating
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=U1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=202008006432&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
Waterheating with infra-red waves
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=45&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20080327&CC=DE&NR=202007016567U1&KC=U1#
George1, 2x fold efficiency in relation to conventional heaters does not mean C. O. P. : 2 by Physics  !
Radiation/Convection/Conduction heat has his dis-/ad-vantages  ! Each case his appropriate solution  !
To feel physiological well in cold climate our  individual body needs only an enclosure ( heat losts insulation) and max. electric 12 Watt heat power,
( in the 90' by thick cable- array 80 Watt,  reduced by nanofibers use to 12 W)
the rest goes to relatively uncontroled space and object heating  !
Beside ambient temperature the human genetical sensibility related humidity/ temperature/ moving air is not the same  ! ( Tests in dry air cryo- climate chambers with thermografical skinreaction comparison)

Writing about C. O. P.  is ever "Carnot thermo-dynamic cycle" related,  reaching the ideal point : eta=1,
an up to 99% ideal point near device : diode-array
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A#
a quantum- mechanical heat pump
Classical Voltage to quantum eV( ancient erg/ dyn- unit) and thermalaccustic unit : dB = thermal noise
To understand efficiency and C. O. P.  I would recommend to study thermo- : Seebeck-/Peltier- elements,
for heating or cooling in use.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #160 on: May 16, 2019, 01:43:22 PM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #161 on: May 16, 2019, 03:42:27 PM »
Good explanations, lancaIV! Thank you very much for them.
1) But I was misguided by text, describing Mr. Filip's heaters. Actually it's a matter of a 50% decrease of the consumed energy as only the infrared component of the Joule's heat remains the same.
2) And the other misjudgment related to COP. Yes, I understand this. But actually this is a fault of those who write the related texts. They have to specify what exactly they mean.
3) About Seebeck-/Peltier- elements and effect. Thank you for this recommendation of yours! This is because some years ago together with a friend of mine we worked over a device based on Seebeck-Peltier effect. I will re-fresh my memory with pleasure.
4) Please give us some time to consider carefully the last posts you have sent to us.
Regards,
George   

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #163 on: May 17, 2019, 10:38:14 AM »
Hi lancaIV,
Thank you for re-freshing my elementary school knowedge. You made me younger for a while! :) Although many things in our educational programs as if have to be re-considered. For example: "When chemical bonds are formed, heat is released, and when chemical bonds are broken, heat is absorbed." Who has ever seen a chemical bond? Or an atom? Or a molecule? These are abstractions, which work well in many practical cases, but at the same time they generate much more questions than answers. (Of course, this is my personal opinion and I woud not like to press anybody to agree with me.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George     

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #164 on: May 18, 2019, 09:48:48 AM »
Hi lancaIV,
Professor Kanarev's points of view and approaches are extremely interesting and original. It seems to me that (at least theoretically) some of his water-electrolysis-related research works unambiguously manifest outlet energy/inlet energy > 1. Keep reading.
What is your opinion about Prof. Kanarev's research works?
Regards, 
George

 

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