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Author Topic: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1  (Read 156926 times)

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #540 on: March 14, 2021, 10:41:41 AM »
Here's what I found on my own ...

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #541 on: March 15, 2021, 04:17:34 PM »
To Acca.
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Hi there,
You wrote that I "....want 20 times overunity HHO....". Please let me tell you that I have never mentioned anything of the sort! :) But anyway the link you have sent is interesting. Please give me some time to consider it carefully.
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #542 on: March 15, 2021, 04:20:23 PM »
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Your analysis of Acca's post is interesting. Need some time however to understand it completely and thoroughly.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #542 on: March 15, 2021, 04:20:23 PM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #543 on: March 15, 2021, 04:22:32 PM »
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Can't open the link. Could you send it in another way?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #544 on: March 15, 2021, 07:39:12 PM »
I myself can not download, why?
This archive seems to be stored on the site's server.
In any case, this is just a page from the aboveunity saved last year.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #544 on: March 15, 2021, 07:39:12 PM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #545 on: March 15, 2021, 09:55:32 PM »
 Here is a link to HHO videos, I am just shocked that this method may be the best way to split water..
Acca…
A short video covering snippets of the test series and designed for those who do not have the time to dig deep and view the complete test presentations along with the other 25 subject videos presented by H2IL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrKURnM8GAY
 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtal-Crd1YjA1i-IZ3TIGw/videos[/font]

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #546 on: March 16, 2021, 03:30:49 PM »
To kolbacict.
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Hi kolbacict,
Hi dear colleague,
Please send to me, if possible, the exact link, (a) which contains "aboveunity" and (b) from which you get the information.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #546 on: March 16, 2021, 03:30:49 PM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #547 on: March 16, 2021, 03:36:18 PM »
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Hi Acca,
Hi dear colleague,
1) Very, very interesting! Thanks a lot for your post. Need some time to consider everything carefully and understand it completely and thoroughly.
2) Do these guys sell such hydrogen-generating machines?
 

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #548 on: March 16, 2021, 04:12:43 PM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #549 on: March 17, 2021, 01:37:34 PM »
Acca,reading their https://www.h2innovativelab.com/  site,


we have to calculate :


 $0,34/Kg hydrogen = only the metal price from the galvanic electrolytic process


to read :

A Coefficient of Production (CoP) well in excess of 100% means the output energy is much greater than the input power. Combining an internal energy harvested from low-cost, abundant galvanic metals priced at just $0.34 per Kg of hydrogen and are exchanged every 40 to 80 days.

+ 2 KWh electricity per Kg hydrogen


+ process enclosing chamber and technology costs

+ water ,1 Kg hydrogen from 9 Kg water
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+ developper/seller margin !


= total inclusing $1-1,5 per Kg hydrogen








same/similar price level for each Kg hydrogen


https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/117497.html


when 1 Kg hydrogen equates 33,3 KWh ,1$ production costs per Kg means 3 $cents/KWh costs




https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/rngwhhdm.htm


net costs per KWh (1 MMBTU = 293 KWh ) + CO2-certificate  per ton CO2 costs !




https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=73&t=11


Pounds of CO2 emitted per million British thermal units (Btu) of energy for various fuels

Natural gas  117.0


117 pounds /293 KWh = 0.18 Kg CO2 per KWh shale/natural gas




https://ember-climate.org/data/carbon-price-viewer/



average 25 US$/ton              ( shall increase to fixed 55 Euros/ton or +- 60 US$/ton )


from 0,45 $cent/KWh             to 1,08 US$cents/KWh CO2-certification costs for natural/shale gas use




https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/117497.html


several different processes offering ,claimed results


a. it is USD 1.15/kgH2 and 11 kg CO2


b. It is USD 0.7/kg H2 and 5.5 kg CO2


c. = USD 0.35/kgH2 and 22 kg CO2.


d. It is USD 0.095/kg H2 being practically free, with 44 kg CO2 exhaust can be profitably utilized as in industry (e.g. for axalic acid production) as in agriculture for plants feeding.

or https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2020/nr/c9nr10552b#!divAbstract

e. such hydrogen can be less USD 0.5/kg without any CO2 exhaust.


f. = USD 1.3/kg H2 minus a cost of 3 kg of pure graphite being very valuable by-product.

                                                    https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/graphite-price-per-kg.html
                                                    ultra fine graphite powder : USD 0,45/Kg


              1,3          minus                                        3 x 0,45      =  ::)   "positive " production costs





d. and e.                     real      natural/shale gas         market concurrence !




d. USD 0,095 /33,3 KWh = USD 0,84 per MMBTU   shale gas price max ( included CO2 tax,actually USD 1,32 to USD 3,16 )
 
                                       means shale gas - CO2 tax = negative price

https://www.worldoil.com/news/2020/6/3/natural-gas-prices-could-go-negative-on-global-oversupply

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-natgas-waha-negative-idUSKCN1SS1GC
Waha averaged minus 40 cents per million British thermal units (mmBtu) for Wednesday. The last time Waha traded below zero was April 3 when it averaged a record low minus $4.28, according to data from Refinitiv.


e. USD 0,5     /33,3 KWh = USD 4,40 per MMBTU   shale gas price max (included CO2-tax,actually  USD 1,32 to USD 3,16)

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #550 on: March 17, 2021, 01:42:46 PM »
To kolbacict.
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Interesting. Need some time to consider this link carefully. Can we find the same (or similar) information in some other links?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #550 on: March 17, 2021, 01:42:46 PM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #551 on: March 17, 2021, 01:46:21 PM »
1) We (our team) have created 11 (eleven) technology breakthroughs.
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2) Two of the above mentioned 11 technology breakthroughs (entitled "IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?" and "A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1", respectively) are released freely here in this forum.
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3) Our third technology breakthrough is an entirely new and revolutionary electric technology, which increases many times (twice as a minimum and more than 15 (fifteen) times as a maximum) the capacity of any standard electric battery.
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4) Our third technology breakthrough is experimentally proved. Our third technology breakthrough has a working prototype
(accompanied by a detailed description of its principle of operation).
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5) Our third technology breakthrough is not patented. Instead we would like to sell our third technology breakthrough as a trade secret and/or to enter a suitable kind of collaboration of mutual benefit for production of our third technology breakthrough on a large industrial scale.
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6) Besides we would like to enter a suitable kind of collaboration of mutual benefit for an industrial production on a large industrial scale of our first two technology breakthroughs, (a) which are entitled "IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?" and "A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1" and (b) which are released freely here in this forum.
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7) Contact email address: randdgroup34@gmail.com.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #552 on: March 18, 2021, 12:46:27 AM »
Lanca thanks for that response...

 Geoorge1,  “OVERUNITY” web sight is open forum for discussion of  “FREE ENERGY” …
 
For SALE  technology is NOT  to be SOLD HERE !!!  ……
 
Understanding the principles of  secret  technology hidden from the people of  Earth is discussed here…. Copying of this technology is understanding  the working principles, and to free mankind form burning forests for wood  to fuel cooking fires as well as burning oil used motor oil to cook,  etc…
 
Try to live in Siberia without wood, you will die.. Try to live in Haiti without  making charcoal from deforested wood… No wood left anymore only mudslides… 
 
Hydrogen gas, is  the technology to free some 3 billion miserable humans who live 3 dollars a day..
 
Global warming is a joke as on kamchatka there are some 30 active volcano's that pollute more than humans contribute to global warming..
 
The way to save planet Earth is to give FREE ENERGY to “ALL HUMANS” and turn the world into a resource based economy as OPPOSED to SLAVE MONETARY ECONOMY'S…Greed and POWER are the drivers of HUMAN MISERY around the world .. It does not matter if you live Mumbai slums or USA getto's.. Converting form monetary to resource based world allow humans to irrigate Sahara and live in central Siberia..  Humans will produce what is needed if energy is free.. Freezing water out of the air and using that water to irrigate the deserts. This is the WAR between people who have and those who have NOT.
Money is the division to that misery.. Free the, “the energy Machines”, to the humans Earth.. 
 
 
My MISSION is to disclose secret FREE ENERGY to all humans… and who cares if you are a poor Russian or a poor American, or a human in Central Sudan.  However the people who DO CARE are the enemy of  humans, the stock holders of financial systems of the World.. MONEY is the corruptor   of humans.. With FREE ENERGY humans evolve to a RESOURCE BASED SYSTEM…
 
 
 
Acca…
 P.s. it is now here ..  [/font]War against the human opressors has begun with FREE ENERGY machines,  being now disclosed.. Too bad for oil…and  radiation it’s on the way out… Wake up… !!!

death of humans in "this FREE ENERGY" fight has already a large body count...   in some of these video clips the inventors are dead... NOT by natural causes...

links below
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFuArIMy96M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu_Cxb6ii8U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1msM3aYCXYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ecepoxsm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6wDr9tDxRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyzuiwe5TGk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvis7Z9WJyU
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #553 on: March 18, 2021, 11:59:05 AM »
Acca," ..... MONEY is the corruptor ..."
No ! Neither in a extreme capitalistic (strong individualistic)  nor extreme communistic (strong social) social system !
Money exposes a Hirarchy/Class-rank !
Even in North-Corea you see a ranking society !Vaticano: also !
Money can be represented by a stone wheel(Micronesia),Milton&Bradley game plastic button,metal coin ,....... !
The selective use shows the money holder his priorities !
And/or his psychological/physical limits !


Macro-economy : credibility

                               Title,worth !? No (monetary)credit !       Cash to pay !

                                Work,worth !? No( monetary)credit !     Cash to pay ! Or "work-time"-barter !         

                              Ground,worth !? No (monetary) credit ! Cash to pay ! Or ground with ground  change !


"Money" is a physical ( Kg tender mass) social trade instrument ,portable !

Title and work = mass-free and ground(land) not portable !

Here we have a "political game" error since 1944 ,Bretton Woods conference !
No wonder,that 2/3 from the U.N. are/in/near estate bankruptcy ! ;)

Greater and smaller members .


I do not think that most parliamentaries are corrupt ,but they are non educated in fixed,"eternal",macro-economy laws (actio/re-actio equality)

 "All Humans " : without limitation ? Have " all" the compensative right to get cheaply energy/power ?
How they treated Nature,up to date ?Which are their social-ethical standarts ?
Which their KWh per day consume ? Compared global minimum/average ?

What is the priority : the individual his education or " human as consumer/work server mass reproduction" ?!
The 1000 units investment with    3 units per KWh production/generation costs or the   100 units investment with 4-5 units per KWh production/generation costs

B.O.S. Build Operate Sell   invest and administrate the power plant and selling -provider like-  the output


When photo-/thermal voltaic cells will produce in future DC or AC electricity for 3,later down to 1 €cent per KWh,( we read in several studies about 10cents/Wp endconsumer prices )

why shall hydrogen be a better solution by 3 cents/KWh costs ?

"low cost solution" ,but high investment inside :


https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/saltwater-aquion-emerged-from-bankruptcy-new-owner


Juline-Titans LLC acquired the bankrupt Aquion at auction for $9.16 million on June 20. That price beat out a stalking-horse bid of $2.8 million from Austrian energy storage firm BlueSky Energy. Aquion announced a resumption of operations July 21.


The bad news: $9.16 million is just a fraction of the $190 million in venture capital and debt the company had raised from investors




                    3US$ per day PPP-cash consumer earnings can be seen as 60 US$ per day PPP-credit system investor "money worth"
« Last Edit: March 18, 2021, 02:54:14 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #554 on: March 18, 2021, 02:38:48 PM »
To Acca and to lancaIV.
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Firstly, let me remind again something, which has been mentioned many times in our previous posts. (Please read carefully our posts.) Money, that would come from a possible selling of our technology secrets, would be used 90% for charity and 10% for R&D work. But it's OK, let us not talk about money. Let us find then together a suitable industrial manufacturer and enter a suitable collaboration of mutual benefit for production of our technology breakthroughs on a large industrial scale. Now this sounds good, doesn't it? 

 

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