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Author Topic: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1  (Read 43879 times)

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #165 on: May 18, 2019, 01:56:05 PM »
Prof.  Kanarevs view and experimental results are as same interessant/interestant as the " kids education method" :
                                            peak to average to effective power ratio
   15000 W are as same as 144 W    but this 144 W are also as same as 1,44 W  :
   and this values applied give for example in electrolysis a C.O.P. about 3xfold and more

              mad linear/dynamic science , pardon : today expressed " fuzzy logic "

                           How do climate experts calculate ?  ;)


 

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #166 on: May 18, 2019, 02:47:57 PM »
Hi lancaIV,
This for the climate experts calculations is well said! :D Congratulations!
So you are sceptic, aren't you? No rational part in his numerous research works at all? (I still have not read all of the Kanarev's research works.) Those, which I have read already however, contain too many sophisticated theoretical models, two many unknowns, too many hypothesys proclaimed as axioms/postulates, etc. So your recommendation is to stop reading as the Kanarev's approach is similar to the weather forecast calculations? :D
Regards,
George   

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #167 on: May 18, 2019, 04:18:21 PM »
No,  George1, it is important to study the different works and experiments and their results from Kanarev !
   It is about "dynamic" ! In theory and practise  !
                                                    And comparison !

                                                       given example for a generator :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2012256422A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20121011&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

 Paragraph 92 related to Paragraph 94 : 1000/100 RPM but 1000/1 Watt power
                         SIMPLE KIDS THINKING ( Finger more/less calculation) :           

             when 100 Rotations are the 1/10 part from 1000 R.,  why I get only 1/1000 output  ?

                                                                         DYNAMICS
Professor Kanarev is trying to give the answer for all electric devices,  motor/generator/transformer, and especially for pulse power by PWM apply (modulated signals in time and bandwidth !)
               This " dynamic motive  power magic"  f.e. 1/10~1/1000 he tries to make understandable  !

 And 15000 W ~ 144 W ~ 1,44 W : this statement is conditionized ! By time and on/off- periods !
(Ab-)using numbers : 1 Wh = 3600 Ws=  3,6 KWs = 3600000 Wms = 3,6 MWms


Endo-/exothermic plays in ambient an important rule,  included enthalpy  ! I think you know about it. !
Use in simple manner :
http://www.iwilltry.org/b/heat-your-home-with-a-dehumidifier/  Pseudo- open cycle- C. O. P.  ? Lesser humidity in air / lower the total C. O. P.
                                 
                          Humidifier/Nebulizer/Mister/Fogger
Counteract : https://www.google.com/search?q=air+conditioning+mister&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

Also wrong are linear calculations for thermic devices :
Fujitsu as heat pump producer gives in their webpage the example about heat need with 15°C and 20°C amplitudeand explains an hundred percent power consume difference .
In their new experimental construction this company shows that this is not only heat pumps related :https://www.fenixgroup.cz/de
So each degree temperature more above 15°C room heating means 20% more power consume. !And not 20°/15° is 33,3% more dividing with 5 degrees = 6,7  % more per °C

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #167 on: May 18, 2019, 04:18:21 PM »
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #168 on: May 20, 2019, 10:33:49 AM »
Another project from Belarus country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxLbzvSows8

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...2 kW for heating 80 m2 room for a rabbit farm with poor thermal insulation...
The project is commercial, with its seeming simplicity, it contains everything that was acquired by many years of testing and thousands of successful and failed experiments. Therefore, it does not intend to publish the technical details of this device.
1. A very high voltage is applied to the cell.
2. If you reduce the voltage below the starting point of the electrolysis process, then whatever current strength you apply, heating will not be possible.
3. The heat system does not produce any gases, only heat.
4. Shock current can only if you take up the central part of the electrolyzer. In a commercial sample, the electrolyzer will be in a closed case. Everything else, including the radiators are not energized, the device also works in tandem with the RCD, this eliminates the possibility of electric shock.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #169 on: May 25, 2019, 06:36:19 PM »
Hi lancaIV,
Hi Sergh,
1) Please give me some time to cosider carefully your last posts.
2) Last week we were fully occupied with preparing a set of calorimetric experiments related to water-splitting electrolysis and this process took a lot of time. Experimental calorimetry is may be one of the most sophisticated branches of modern science.
I will write to you both in the nearest future.
Regards,
George   

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #170 on: May 25, 2019, 09:18:59 PM »
And F. Canarev is now alive and well?
It is close to me, and I am such a pig, I never went to him.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #171 on: May 27, 2019, 10:50:34 AM »
Did he take the heat emission of rabbits into account? A pig, for example, with the same mass, heats a room two to three times more than a human.
The surface of the pig's body is comparable to the average heating radiator. At a temperature of about 40 degrees. replaces one radiator. I once suggested using pigs for heating.
Not in Alice in Wonderland, a queen lay a pig under her feet for warmth. :)

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #172 on: May 27, 2019, 10:59:19 AM »
George,

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19881019&CC=GB&NR=2203529A&KC=A#
Small bedroom :assuming 6 sqm (" small") floor area             
                                            2,3 meters room hight         
                                                           Room surface calculation
Wide: 3mtr x 2,3 x2  Length + 2 mtr x 2,3 x 2 + Tect 6 sqm = 29 sqm ( + 6 sqm floor)

                                 assuming :     K- value :1,5 W/ qm/ K ( window/door/walls energy losts)

                                      Temperature amplitude : 0°C -  14,5° C = 14,5° degrees K

                                      29 sqm x 1,5 x 14,5 = 630,75 Watt heat




                                       /2: inside walls heat ~ 315 Watt heat

                               ". .... in a small bedroom,   25 Watt may suffice,... "

                                                           Heat sources :
                                  Enthalpy( condensation) gains,humans body heat emission, .......
                                   

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #173 on: May 27, 2019, 11:16:53 AM »
1. The normal temperature in a residential area should be 22 - 24 degrees Celsius. A temperature of 18 degrees is not enough.
2. Heating becomes expensive at outside temperatures of 0 -10 degrees and below.
3. The insulation of real housing is relatively poor. Ventilation is carried out through the window. Lack of ventilation leads to dampness and mold on the walls.

Based on this, I assume that the power needed for heating a room of 12 square meters is 2 kilowatts for late autumn and 4 - 5 kilowatts for winter.

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #174 on: May 27, 2019, 11:59:09 AM »
Sergh,

1. NO  !

I reed some weeks before about 12°C ambiental in-house temperature in Australia.
In the 70' the average winter temperature in the british houses were belong 15°C.

First minimum limit : 0°C  ice breaks sanitation tubes
Second minimum limit : 10-15°C condensation
Health risk : humid air movement and mildew/ mold

By wrong estatal politics I have to agree to your numbers but this means 100% overheating from basic need  !
The right body wear for the right hot/cold ambient. !
3 physiologic degrees Kelvin by body heating ~ > 50% space energetic overheating
 https://www.google.com/search?q=wristify+bracelet&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

human body all-weather nano-fiber enclosure let energy consumption falls to 12 Watt,independant from space area/volume in-/outside house

2."Expensive" is relative : to ultra-low/no heating need   

Passive house experience in the 90' in Germany : only space heater = incandescent light bulb and human heat emission

3.And door(s).
   Modern solution : Single-room air ventilation with heat recuperation


12 sqm floor area means +/- 45 sqm room surface( without floor)  when you mean 40° K heat amplitude (-20 out/+ 20 in)and the room (90' construction standart) has K- value 1,0  ergo this means 1800 caloric units heat !
By infrared heating ( objects radiation) your heat source will consume in average 1800 x 0,37 x 0,6 =400 Watt electric units !
Academical pigs( suino/swine)/ humans body heating research& development worldwide  let this numbers reach.


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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #175 on: May 27, 2019, 01:19:44 PM »
Does infrared heating affect human health? Has been tested the health effect of infrared heating on the long term?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #176 on: May 27, 2019, 01:40:08 PM »
Sergh,  you mean specific nm bandwidth infrared radiation ,near/far  !?
The sun radiation is also partial in the IR- spectrum.
IR-radiation is in use as medical therapy instrument.


12 Watt consume " body capsule wear"
http://rexresearch.com/cuinanoagwire/cuinanoag.html


"on the long term" has to be seen in decades range,  cause also without artificial IR- heating our body
during the evolution changed from one cell ( Amoebe)  to multi-cell bodies( human- oid)
and the first changing preview for the next evolution step will be that our human body will loose the hair

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #177 on: May 27, 2019, 04:56:22 PM »
Anyway, the measurements are incorrect.
Кроликов долой,и повторить. :) :D
http://biofile.ru/bio/18661.html

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #178 on: May 27, 2019, 05:31:36 PM »
In western girls and boys language translated :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbiofile.ru%2Fbio%2F18661.html
Hmm ??? ,which measurements are incorrect ?
Could you explain it ?

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Re: A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1
« Reply #179 on: May 27, 2019, 07:20:51 PM »
Sergh,  you mean specific nm bandwidth infrared radiation ,near/far  !?
The sun radiation is also partial in the IR- spectrum.
IR-radiation is in use as medical therapy instrument.
Not certainly in that way. Due to the nature of pure infrared radiation, there are some problems.
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What is the harm of infrared radiation to humans? One of the likely adverse effects is drying of the skin surface. The skin surface, facing the IR source, heats up, the moisture from it evaporates, while the subcutaneous layers do not have time to warm up and the body does not react with perspiration. Drying of the skin occurs, sometimes burns. Judging by the reviews of infrared equipment, the effect of “baking” the skin is quite common in infrared saunas. The same effect is typical for infrared heaters in rooms.

The impact of intense infrared radiation on the human body was studied by physicians - physiotherapists, as well as specialists involved in labor protection. In physiotherapy, intensive IR sources have been used for a long time. However, this effect is short-term, strictly regulated. In some industries, for example, in steel shops and glass processing, people are exposed to IR radiation for a long time. Infrared radiation has been recognized as a high hazard factor.

The biochemical effect of exposure to short-wave infrared rays of the protection guide is explained there by a photochemical action, which is manifested when skin is absorbed by skin proteins and enzymatic processes are activated. When the intensity of irradiation of the exposed surface of the body is up to 175 W / m2, the presence of denaturation processes in protein molecules in combination with a violation of the permeability of cell membranes is noted, which can probably be the cause of changes in the membrane potential of blood cells and the appearance of self-antigen properties. Excessive exposure to infrared radiation causes thermal damage to the retina and the lens of the eye, which can lead to the development of cataracts. Obviously, there should be standards for safe infrared radiation.

 

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