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Author Topic: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.  (Read 5968 times)

Offline Mem

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2019, 06:53:43 AM »
Here is that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8-Kek8Halc[url=http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8-Kek8Halc

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #61 on: January 17, 2019, 10:57:58 AM »
Here is that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8-Kek8Halc

"Visual Education project" is a series of faked perpetual motion machines but really very well built.
It's educational only for those who are trying to understand why they don't work.

Offline lancaIV

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #62 on: January 17, 2019, 11:16:45 AM »
#48 image to #57 to 3d modell : fine,  well done!  Pretty,  too pretty. ! ( only my personal mind)


For FEMM-modelling :

I would prefer : open the " eternity symbol" ~ the horizontal 8 ;
  not a rectangular but a round swastika-configuration !  magnets orientation : ccw or cw ?

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2019, 04:07:32 PM »
Temporal Visitor: Still lurking here, I see.
Typically the magnetic ENERGY in a permanent magnet is very small (Joules) and the process of creating a permanent magnet is inefficient (~50 %?)
If you want to educate yourself (although I have seen no evidence of that):
http://www.coolmagnetman.com/magenergy.htm
So this contraption is also relegated to the large mountain of non-working FE devices.
Have fun playing with it though.

"Lurking"? Stepping forward to help someone else defend against your ILL CON-ceived attack(s) is in fact the opposite of "lurking here".
By your own words: ", I see." - You clearly demonstrate your awareness of my presence "here" with your admitted ability to see.
So much for any supposed "evidence" of "lurking" on my part.

My original post simply pointed out facts you don't like, truths you have no way to respond to and will remain unable to counter.

So of course you resort to your SOP of turning your attack towards me, which to me is further evidence you are and have already lost. Another fact that in reality that does not even matter at all. It was expected.

As for "ENERGY" in a magnet; so what! Magnets do not produce "energy" - they only have a magnetic FORCE field of "X" strength and you know that much for certain, the rest escapes you.

If it was thought you had an ability to explain how "ENERGY" is in fact created, when, where and what it comes from you can be sure you would have been asked directly to do so.

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2019, 04:26:39 PM »
Mike, you seem to 'feel' attacked a lot. Happy with that?
Of course magnetism is a field that exhibits a force. So is gravity. And?

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #65 on: January 17, 2019, 05:09:30 PM »
Mike, you seem to 'feel' attacked a lot. Happy with that?
Of course magnetism is a field that exhibits a force. So is gravity. And?

"And?" : as previously written; the rest escapes you.

"Have fun playing with it" yourself.

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #66 on: January 20, 2019, 08:29:14 AM »
this  is  my  idea

https://youtu.be/l900fICp2Eg


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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2019, 01:11:02 PM »
Now i have finished my build.

The external magnet can not be seen on the picture because before making a magnet holder i first wanted to test it with a hand-held magnet, to see where the optimal position for the external magnet is. But the tests were completely disappointing and worse than i had expected. I tested it with several magnets: one bar magnet (the same as in the ones in the rotor), two bar magnets, and one or two very strong cube magnets.

I was not able to get any rotation whatsoever. In the best cases it rotated some 30 degrees and then it stopped.

It's not even 'almost working', it's not working at all.



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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #68 on: January 20, 2019, 01:31:09 PM »
1 Rotation is for the rotor the maximal freedoms degree limited by the shaft fixation.

You fixed the magnets  ! And their magnetic force field near/ far effect!

1 Rotor( or Stator) dividing this 360° circle in chamber,  where the - each magnet/ its- chamber can  moves with or against the outer Ring !?
At first 4d modelling !
But your work : really fine, too clean !
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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2019, 01:39:50 PM »
Now i have finished my build.



I was not able to get any rotation whatsoever. In the best cases it rotated some 30 degrees and then it stopped.

It's not even 'almost working', it's not working at all.
Hi skywatcher,
nice bwuild and thank for doing the experiment ,if you can, i suggest to you to reduce the number of magnet to half or les ,just an idea?

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #70 on: January 20, 2019, 01:40:23 PM »
1 Rotation is for the rotor the maximal freedoms degree limited by the shaft fixation.

You fixed the magnets  ! And their magnetic force field near/ far effect!

1 Rotor( or Stator) dividing this 360° circle in chamber,  where the - each magnet/ its- chamber can  moves with or against the outer Ring !?

Sorry, i don't understand what you mean. The rotor is NOT fixed. It can move (roll) freely inside the drum.

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2019, 01:49:09 PM »
Hi skywatcher,
nice bwuild and thank for doing the experiment ,if you can, i suggest to you to reduce the number of magnet to half or les ,just an idea?
This would not improve anything, i think it would be even worse then.
Maybe making the drum slightly bigger would improve it a little bit but it's so far from working i think there is no chance that even after some improvements it would work.
I will not waste more time on this project.

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #72 on: January 20, 2019, 01:49:34 PM »
It is" relatively" fixed by Stator/ Rotor dimension ratio  !
Give the magnets ccw or cw motion freedom,  their mass moving effect extra as potential !

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #73 on: January 20, 2019, 02:06:31 PM »
It is" relatively" fixed by Stator/ Rotor dimension ratio  !
Give the magnets ccw or cw motion freedom,  their mass moving effect extra as potential !

It's absolutely the same as described by Tom and shown in his picture.
I wanted to repilcate Tom's design, not anything else.

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Re: What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.
« Reply #74 on: January 20, 2019, 02:16:12 PM »
  " It is absolutely the same as described by Tom ..."
#46  not ~ #57 ,#48 ~ #57
       #46 / # 48 : magnetic field lines!?



 

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