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Author Topic: Zero and Q device  (Read 9805 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2019, 11:13:33 PM »
I know that this system can not be  COP>1.

I never wanted to reach COP>1 with this system.
It is impossible to reach COP>1 with this system.
I count on losses.
I need COP 0.7 or COP 0.8.
As much as I can return to source.
Additional 0.2 will be added from load.


That is my idea.
That is what I am talking all the time.
In that case I am looping energy in circle and using
whatever reminds.

(Kapanadze is adding only a little to his system from load)

Hi V8Karlo. You still seem to be overlooking that if you power a 12V light bulb from
a 12V battery directly that the efficiency will be for all intents and purposes 100%. 
You just can't beat that without drawing in extra energy from outside your setup. :)

A very efficient DC to DC converter circuit can have an efficiency at about the mid 90's %
or so at lower power output.

No matter what scheme you try with these types of arrangements, and I have experimented with
some different approaches, you will always be less than 100% efficient, which is always worse
than powering a 12V load directly with a 12V battery. I hope that is more clear now.

The only way you can beat powering a load directly with a battery with no switching circuitry in between
(pretty much 100% efficiency), is to come up with an arrangement which pulls in extra energy from
outside your setup. Akula and Ruslan did not use any special circuitry, (and most likely the same for Mr. Kapanadze).
They used normal PWM driver circuits, and normal 'kacher' circuits or similar to power the tesla coil, etc.
 
If their setups are legit, then the magic in their setups is occurring because they are doing something that
caused their setups to draw in excess energy from outside their setups, not because of some small efficiency
gain they might have made in one of their driver circuits. In other words, you will never have a chance
of getting the types of results Kapanadze/Akula/Ruslan have shown with normal closed loop circuits alone, as
they are always less than 100% efficient. If you want to see a COP > 1, then you have to come up with a way
to draw in extra energy from outside your setup. That is where the 'magic' will come from.


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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2019, 11:13:33 PM »

Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2019, 11:15:28 PM »

Nothing remarkable. The series connected caps are charging so fast on the first phase, that the input bulb filament cannot heat quickly enough to glow. On the second phase, the transistor is switched on and the caps discharge into the output bulb.


"The series connected caps are charging so fast."


Fast means less time.
And the current trough L2 has more time to pass.
That means also that current is passing trough L1 in less time.
Less time - Less power is passing trough L1.

10W passing trough wire in 0,5 sec , is not the same as 10W passing trough wire in 1 sec.

And you don't count that the caps are charging through L1 which has 170 ohm, so it cant be super fast.
(They just don't need lots of current, they only replenish, because L2 is 170 ohm they never
discharge much. They discharge from 220V to 175. So you have to replenish from 175V to 220V)

Now,
Remove C3. You have C1 and C2 left.
L1 light up but L2 glow with more light than L1.
Now the both bulbs glow but with different intensity.

In this case you can see that theory that speed of charging caps fast does not hold.

What about that case?

All those theories will never hold because the device is real.
Have you considered that case?

The case that device in front of you is real device.

Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2019, 11:55:41 PM »


The Zero device has 3 variable:

Input voltage
Number of capacitors
Resistance of load (L2)

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2019, 11:55:41 PM »
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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2019, 07:15:12 AM »
v8Karlo,  R.A.M. and R.O.M., random access and operating : source and storage and now not memory but energy !

 F.e. solarcell-calculator with integrated capacitor/battery storage or smartphone or household devices ....
  Now you need also a CPU concept which operate the output : variable or fix load!?
  But it is ever variable : the  consumer/ load demand !  You need the inertia/ inrush period controle ( up to 10 times the nominal VA steady demand value )!
 
 

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Offline Hoppy

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2019, 04:38:48 PM »
V8karlo wrote: -

"Now,
Remove C3. You have C1 and C2 left.
L1 light up but L2 glow with more light than L1.
Now the both bulbs glow but with different intensity.

In this case you can see that theory that speed of charging caps fast does not hold.

What about that case?"

V8karlo,Simplify your zero circuit by removing the transistor, leaving just the front-end diodes D1 - D4 and all four caps. Now, with the mains supply connected and L1 not glowing, please shunt all three caps C1 to C3 with a 1K resistor. Why does L1 glow but fails to glow when the transistor and the remaining diodes are in circuit acting as a much lower resistance shunt? If you can answer this question, it will go some way to explain why L2 glows whilst L1 does not. Also bear in mind that capacitors have reactance (AC resistance) at 50Hz and that bulbs require current as well as voltage to glow - clue to why L1 glows when C3 is removed from circuit.

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2019, 04:38:48 PM »
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Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2019, 05:16:03 PM »
V8karlo,
Simplify your zero circuit by removing the transistor, leaving just the front-end diodes D1 - D4 and all four caps. Now, with the mains supply connected and L1 not glowing, please shunt all three caps C1 to C3 with a 1K resistor. Why does L1 glow but fails to glow when the transistor and the remaining diodes are in circuit acting as a much lower resistance shunt? If you can answer this question, it will go some way to explain why L2 glows whilst L1 does not. Also bear in mind that capacitors have reactance (AC resistance) at 50Hz and that bulbs require current as well as voltage to glow - clue to why L1 glows when C3 is removed from circuit.


Hoopy,




You have the circuit, do what ever you want with it.


I am tired of you and your questions.


You are no scientist, your claims does not hold.


You are bully on this forum.


This forum has to deal with you and people like you if it wants to live.

Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2019, 05:35:45 PM »
I did what I wanted.


I delivered my work to the others.
That was my goal.
You were never variable in that process.


I can rest now.


I like to speak with normal people here,
but not with you.

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2019, 05:35:45 PM »
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Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #67 on: January 07, 2019, 05:46:04 PM »
Hoopy,


Because of you and your crew of bullyes,


Lots of people dont want to post here, they write to me via mail rather.


They are affraid of your attacks.


The owner of forum should see that you are killing his forum.

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2019, 06:23:12 PM »
Hello v8karlo,
I only saw some moments before your post before #57 and your listening and question!?

Without great bla-bla: time out for me - you want " specific" and clear answer -
for thinking and right constructive answer searching and giving !
Have a nice evening ( in Zagreb or elsewhere)
OCWL

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2019, 06:23:12 PM »
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Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2019, 06:35:10 PM »
Hello v8karlo,
I only saw some moments before your post before #57 and your listening and question!?

Without great bla-bla: time out for me - you want " specific" and clear answer -
for thinking and right constructive answer searching and giving !
Have a nice evening ( in Zagreb or elsewhere)
OCWL


I gave you all my work.
You have it. I dont have to defend it, it is public now.
Everyone can try it and make their own conclusions.
You dont need me for that.


If I come up with something new, I will post it.
It is night here and I have 12h shift to work.
I dont have much free time like many of you,
but still i found time to post all of this.
So, dont be angry on me.


Circuits are public, try them, or not. Thats point of open source.


For start, I am not angry on you if you dont try them.




Offline lancaIV

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2019, 07:27:57 PM »
v8karlo,I am not angry about you, no reazon.
The "bla-bla" is  not you and your posts related but the many others content response.
My " b-b" partiell included.

 A common question about induction is :

  First savings:
 How much can be saved for the same physical output

  Second savings:
  How much can be saved for a same " Phantom/Placebo"-energy output


  "Phantom": we humans have got a relatively slow physiologic body-organ( eye, skin) action/ reaction time

  heater :    body-heat related : the energetic need and process    https://embrlabs.com/
                                                                                         
                     https://spinoff.com/wristify here "Technology": 0,1°C ~ several degrees

  light : eye : CFF : critical fusion frequency
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5130608A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19920714&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

   E-nano-coating-wear : 12 Watt sufficient , with-/ out resonant recapture circuit ?

   Each optimizing step brings us all, optimists/ pessimists - one step forward -
   with-/out conversation-misunderstandings.

 
   Have a good night and greetings from the cold ( actually brr 12°C )southwest of Europe
   OCWL


  Coil Titanium coating ? Stupid  ?

 http://rexresearch.com/sun/sun.htm

https://m.phys.org/news/2015-10-superconducting-ink-instantly.html

 
 

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Re: Zero and Q device
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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2019, 12:52:52 AM »

V8karlo,Simplify your zero circuit by removing the transistor, leaving just the front-end diodes D1 - D4 and all four caps.

Without transistor it can not work!

Offline F6FLT

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2019, 10:42:32 AM »
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https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5130608A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19920714&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
"Since the useful energy is expended mainly during the pulse width but not during the resting period between pulses, which is relatively much larger than the pulse width, [] considerable energy can be saved while nevertheless maintaining brightness of illumination."
Nonsense. Always the eternal confusion between power and energy.

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2019, 10:54:52 AM »
"Since the useful energy is expended mainly during the pulse width but not during the resting period between pulses, which is relatively much larger than the pulse width, [] considerable energy can be saved while nevertheless maintaining brightness of illumination."
Nonsense. Always the eternal confusion between power and energy.
   WAVE GENERATOR = FUNCTION GENERATOR = TIME GENERATOR.
        ALWAYS.              = ETERNAL.                           = EVER
 Is it easier and work time and/or work  potential saving to "swim" with or against wave direction?
Mainstream, bystream

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2019, 11:04:33 AM »
"Since the useful energy is expended mainly during the pulse width but not during the resting period between pulses, which is relatively much larger than the pulse width, [] considerable energy can be saved while nevertheless maintaining brightness of illumination."
Nonsense. Always the eternal confusion between power and energy.

Everything is big unknown until somebody do it,
Then it will be peace of cake.
Nobody knows until it prove it otherwise.

Even the Tesla didn't know everything,
but he was trying, always.
So, the solution is keep trying until you do it.

 

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