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sparkmen

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2019, 10:50:25 AM »
hi Karlo, thanks for warning, without danger there is no excitement...no exitement=boring
well, I'm not that good in calculation but "electroDroid"app (free to download to your smart phone) was made by smarter than me people and can be used by anyone to see what teoretical calculations looks like.
ofcourse, in practice is a bit different for now as we don't have " ideal " capacitors, always is ESR involved and so on , but yet the theory show that there is something on behaviour of caps and I do believe that if we involve as well some inductance somewhere a simple yet interesting device will popup.
someday , someone will put Columbus 'egg on the table and the crewd will say: is simple and we also knew that
regards

v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2019, 10:57:19 AM »
hi Karlo, thanks for warning, without danger there is no excitement...no exitement=boring
well, I'm not that good in calculation but "electroDroid"app (free to download to your smart phone) was made by smarter than me people and can be used by anyone to see what teoretical calculations looks like.
ofcourse, in practice is a bit different for now as we don't have " ideal " capacitors, always is ESR involved and so on , but yet the theory show that there is something on behaviour of caps and I do believe that if we involve as well some inductance somewhere a simple yet interesting device will popup.
someday , someone will put Columbus 'egg on the table and the crewd will say: is simple and we also knew that
regards
In this two posts you told more than others in past two days.
You are right. Few years from now all of this will look like child's play.

Jeg

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2019, 11:07:41 AM »
Wow! Yes. It has to be something that simple. I'll test "J" topology asap. Nice to hear from wistiti that Zero circuit worked well. Keep on the good work Karlos!

Q-topology didn't work well with my push-pull setup. But feels like that with some refinements it can become better. The general idea looks valid.

ps. Don't have to be so deffensive. If your circuits are genuine then they will tell their story by themselves.  ;)

Regards

edit: I meant deffensive..sorry
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 01:12:50 PM by Jeg »

Hoppy

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2019, 11:33:37 AM »
The only other member here who is trying day after day and that member is Westly.
The other members bully him day after day and he does not lose his spirit.
Maybe he does not have working device but he did more for this forum then I will ever do.

This forum is alive because of him. The other members are feeding on his life energy.

It is hard for me to watch that.

He never stopped, he never rested and he always has some idea!
I am sorry Wesley why they treated you that way!

You will succeed, and for me you already did!
V8karlo,

Just to put the record straight, I have a lot of respect for Wesley. In my case, you are mistaking genuine disagreements and banter for bullying. I have never been rude or disrespectful to Wesley. With regards to your zero device which I have built, yes it does work insofar as the relative brightness of the two bulbs. However, as I respectfully explained prior to your rather rude outburst at me, in my opinion it does not work for the reasoning you give in your book.

Best wishes
Hoppy

v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2019, 01:46:45 PM »
V8karlo,

Just to put the record straight, I have a lot of respect for Wesley. In my case, you are mistaking genuine disagreements and banter for bullying. I have never been rude or disrespectful to Wesley. With regards to your zero device which I have built, yes it does work insofar as the relative brightness of the two bulbs. However, as I respectfully explained prior to your rather rude outburst at me, in my opinion it does not work for the reasoning you give in your book.

Best wishes
Hoppy

Ok. Your words sounds honest.Wesley is a good guy. About Zero, what is your opinion?

F6FLT

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2019, 02:24:37 PM »
Ok. Your words sounds honest.Wesley is a good guy...
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.   ;D

AlienGrey

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2019, 02:29:46 PM »
Hi V8kalo Not trying to cause waves or anything but the circuit of DC 1.1 i have doesn't work very efficiently on generating spikes to drive the Ferrox ring transformer :'(
Some of the guys having the same problem, It would appear some sort of noise gyrator device is required perhaps, I was thinking perhaps you could
show us your SG3525 and IR2110 circuit you used.
Many thanks, AG

Void

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2019, 03:17:41 PM »
It tells no one anything much at all for someone to say a circuit 'works'. :)
This is overunity.com. We don't care if circuits light bulbs. We need to know how well they light bulbs or other loads.
The way circuit performance is evaluated is by measuring the efficiency of the circuit, (or COP of the setup, if it applies).
Efficiency is (Average Power Out / Average Power In) x 100.
Without such measurements you might as well be talking about the weather here.  ;D

V8Karlo claimed this about his 'Q Device':  "Most of the output energy is returned to source."
Itsu measured an efficiency of around 32.5% with his 'Q device' test setup. So the reality is the
Q Device wastes a huge amount of energy. It does not at all 'return most of the energy to the source'.
A circuit efficiency of around 32.5% is a horrible circuit efficiency. On the other hand, if you connect a 12V
light bulb directly to a 12V battery, you will have pretty much 100% efficiency. :)


NickZ

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2019, 03:39:24 PM »
   It seams that what Karlo wanted is for someone to build his circuit, and confirm about the results being something anamolous, or not. But, so far there has been no indication that his circuit has merit. And the "little help" was not enough to make up for the losses. So, where do we go from here?   
  Seam like ALL the different circuits that have been built up to now, are nothing but bottlenecks, instead. Showing low efficiency, no OU, nor self running.
   Will the real OU device, please stand up...

lancaIV

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2019, 03:49:28 PM »
A.  explended power dissipation reduction

B.  the loop exists, called superconducting energy  storage f.e. EdF,France, Unity 1= storage

C. the free energy : physics term " random fluctuation" generator exists in multiple kinds,
mostly used as    photo- electric conversion device = vulgar " solar cell "
D. Comparision:

http://web.archive.org/web/20060615030624/http://www.1000inventions.com:80/country.htm   

 Nigeria : AUDIO POWER TRANSISTOR SOLAR PANEL

E. -ntertaiment : closed loop : donut type : bicycle inner tube  charging with air or water ?             
                 and then ? overcharging ? "charging pump/ re/- actor " to "charge  bomb" ?                 
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 06:29:01 PM by lancaIV »

v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2019, 05:35:05 PM »

V8Karlo claimed this about his 'Q Device':  "Most of the output energy is returned to source."


In J device ALL the energy from transformer in both phases is returned to source simply
because there is no other way for energy to go. The feedback loop is the only path
for current to flow. J circuit has limitation. Output is half (1/2) voltage from input.
Because of that I moved to Q topology.

Goal is to make Q which returns energy to source in both phases like J and then
ALL of the energy will be returned to source just like in J.

My apologies for that claim because right now Q is returning energy only in
one phase and your observation is true.



Jeg

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2019, 05:37:33 PM »
If Karlos doesn't mind, i'd like to attach here one more circuit of the same way of thinking. It is for the experimenters. The waveform of the returned energy back to the source, was attached at the Kapanadje thread before few days. If A.G likes to bring it here it would be appreciated.

I don't recommend anyone to build it from scratch. It is just for showing you here that if potential become higher than input then a good portion of energy can return back to the source and raising this way the efficiency.
All coils 1:1
 

v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2019, 05:45:33 PM »
   It seams that what Karlo wanted is for someone to build his circuit

   Will the real OU device, please stand up...
I made my research open source so everyone interested can build that circuits.

I didn't demand for you to build them. It is your choice (open source project).
The other thing is that circuits are so simple and can be build in 1 hour or less.
Nobody can tell that he spends weeks or months to build it.

J device is 2 diodes and 2 capacitors!! Lot of guys here already has some push pull
converter, transformer from before.

I did not make self runner.
I am still on that path to do it.
And that path is called researching and experimenting and developing.

Jeg

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2019, 05:57:38 PM »
When left branch conducts, C1 is getting charged together with C2. A secondary in the middle will fire when left branch goes off, and the returned pulse is consumed across the right branch. If the same trick is applied also to the right branch, then C charges up to distraction. Still in progress.

v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2019, 06:10:17 PM »
Currently I am on Q topology, trying to find how to feedback
energy from both phases to source.