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Author Topic: Zero and Q device  (Read 8679 times)

Offline vasik041

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2019, 04:23:10 PM »
It does not look complicated to me.
Just try them.
Why would I try thing which obviously does not work ? ;)Many people by now explained it to you. So it seems that you mislead people deliberately.It's not good. :-X

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2019, 04:23:10 PM »

Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2019, 04:26:34 PM »
The burden of proof is with you, as you are making the claim of significantly improved efficiency. Your feedback is altering the impedance balance of the device and in the case the 'Q' replication in the other thread, compensates by increasing input current. Overall, there will be no significant efficiency gain from your circuitry as you are claiming.

What about when there is 2 sources.
Will impedance balance will be altered now? As you claim!

This is the same circuit, but returning energy to battery instead source.

There is no loop now for impedance balance claim.There is no transformer here, either.
Now it is straight forward.
What now? Any more claim?

You don't read at all? Do you?

Your reputation as expert is going down fast now.

It is about principle. As a expert you remove flaws. If you can?

Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2019, 07:34:36 PM »
Why would I try thing which obviously does not work ? ;)Many people by now explained it to you. So it seems that you mislead people deliberately.It's not good. :-X




Not many people. You, Void and Hoopy. Standard crew.


If it does not work, lets move to your ideas and projects!






Ooops!


There is none!




Why is that?

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2019, 07:34:36 PM »
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Offline vasik041

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2019, 08:05:06 PM »
Not many people. You, Void and Hoopy. Standard crew.
If it does not work, lets move to your ideas and projects!
Ooops!
There is none!
Why is that?
Do not worry, there are projects :)

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Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2019, 08:14:03 PM »
Do not worry, there are projects :)




I can not see them anywhere.


Now you claiming something what cant be seen.


Now, you are im my position with that claim.






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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2019, 08:14:03 PM »
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Offline vasik041

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2019, 08:20:28 PM »
I can not see them anywhere.
Now you claiming something what cant be seen.
Now, you are im my position with that claim.
Well, you have to learn...listen to people and use google  8)

Offline wistiti

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2019, 08:32:33 PM »
I Have replicated the zero device and achieve the same results as yours.

Thank you for sharing your work! It is appreciate.  :)

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2019, 08:32:33 PM »
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Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2019, 08:32:43 PM »
Well, you have to learn...listen to people and use google  8)


I am listening. Thats why I am here.


But for now, you didnt said anything smart.


You looked at scheme and concluded it can not work.


That is not smart.


I use google a lot like everyone else.


But I didnt found working device scheme just like you didnt. Whats the difference then between us.


Oh, I forgot! You are better and smarter then me. You have your secret device and projects.



I will listen to you when you will have something smart to say.

Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2019, 10:13:18 PM »
I Have replicated the zero device and achieve the same results as yours.

Thank you for sharing your work! It is appreciate.  :)


Thank you!


Now nobody can tell you that you can not do it.


It is not my device, it is your device!
And it is first, the zero.


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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2019, 10:13:18 PM »
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Offline SeaMonkey

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2019, 12:12:52 AM »
A rather interesting concept.  The Feedback to Source is developed
in the Full Wave Voltage Doubler circuit.  The capacitors charge on
alternate half cycles of AC input.

The additive DC voltage developed across the series capacitors in the
Full Wave Voltage Doubler is then fed back to the DC source as pulses
of current, provided the voltage across the capacitors is sufficiently high.

A regenerative circuit which bears some similarity, in concept, to the
3BGS circuit at the other forum.  Lead-Acid batteries respond very
favorably to pulsed charging current.

Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2019, 12:23:02 AM »
A rather interesting concept.  The Feedback to Source is developed
in the Full Wave Voltage Doubler circuit.  The capacitors charge on
alternate half cycles of AC input.

The additive DC voltage developed across the series capacitors in the
Full Wave Voltage Doubler is then fed back to the DC source as pulses
of current, provided the voltage across the capacitors is sufficiently high.

A regenerative circuit which bears some similarity, in concept, to the
3BGS circuit at the other forum.  Lead-Acid batteries respond very
favorably to pulsed charging current.


In my experiments I used capacitor instead battery.


I put battery there only to visualy present second source or storage.


Otherwise, people will not understand what that capacitor represents.


Thats why battery.
But it can be battery also.


At the first post here you have J.pdf where I tried to explain device. Read it.


I found through experiment that if you charge caps alternate way you dont lose energy but you can raise voltage enough to overcome source. The energy is pushed back to source before next pulse.
That way you are only looping energy in circle minus losses.


Drawback is that I have on output only half of input voltage. Thats why I moved to Q topology searching for more elegant solution.

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2019, 12:23:02 AM »
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Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2019, 03:07:22 AM »
Tesla in his patent suggests to place inductors on feedback line at both sides.
Inductors will additionaly create back emf which adds to feedback power, creating even more feedback power.
Pulling more power from caps and maybe that way raising output voltage for a little bit.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 08:48:37 AM by v8karlo »

Offline sparkmen

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2019, 09:21:45 AM »
Thanks v8karlo for your sharing.I did some time ago this Capacitor experiment
loaded 150uf at 450v and shortcircuited with screwdriver, loud noise , ears ringed for long..not to try without protections
I’m working inside steel building , completely isolated from outside environment (no windows) Nearby desktop still working but lights 3 floors  below went off (directional EM wave that penetrate 3 layers of steel structure?) –capacitor on vertical position on table.
Tesla was right about capacitors capability of delivery very high pressure.
Now ,consider a 450v /4500uf capacitor to be loaded at 250v through minimal resistance(let say 10mohm) , according theory starting displacement current is 22KA, after 1/1000s (1ms) is loaded at 990mC and current is 4.914uA. So we have the cap loaded in less than 1ms. Is the power meter able to record the consumption, either from grid or independent supply?
What power surce can deliver 22KA?
Let say that we loaded same cap at 250v/4500uf and now we discharge it through a theoretical load of 10pOhm, initial current is 22000GA (!). That just for Tesla remembering.

Considering V8karlo system, with 20uf and half of charging voltage of 110v through a 150ohm bulb we have 733.3mA max starting displacement current, 933.25uA after 20ms, with a power dissipated on bulb of (150ohm x dv/dt)x0.020.
Repeat the step for second capacitor (add power dissipation on first bulb), then we discharge both series capacitors (220v now)  through same type of load of 150ohm, we have starting current 1.467A and after 20ms current is 1.867mA.
value of caps and voltage are just taken for calculation not what was used on previous schematics , theory is somehow we are disipating 2 x (150ohmx dv/dt)x 0.20 for charging 2 caps and we have available another power disipation of 150ohm x dv1/dt1 x 0.20(not fully discharged).
for nayseyers, thing is better have a deeper look into prior discrediting , schematic of v8karlo may look banal but who knows....

Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2019, 10:18:37 AM »
Thanks v8karlo for your sharing.I did some time ago this Capacitor experiment
loaded 150uf at 450v and shortcircuited with screwdriver, loud noise , ears ringed for long..not to try without protections
I’m working inside steel building , completely isolated from outside environment (no windows) Nearby desktop still working but lights 3 floors  below went off (directional EM wave that penetrate 3 layers of steel structure?) –capacitor on vertical position on table.
Tesla was right about capacitors capability of delivery very high pressure.
Now ,consider a 450v /4500uf capacitor to be loaded at 250v through minimal resistance(let say 10mohm) , according theory starting displacement current is 22KA, after 1/1000s (1ms) is loaded at 990mC and current is 4.914uA. So we have the cap loaded in less than 1ms. Is the power meter able to record the consumption, either from grid or independent supply?
What power surce can deliver 22KA?
Let say that we loaded same cap at 250v/4500uf and now we discharge it through a theoretical load of 10pOhm, initial current is 22000GA (!). That just for Tesla remembering.

Considering V8karlo system, with 20uf and half of charging voltage of 110v through a 150ohm bulb we have 733.3mA max starting displacement current, 933.25uA after 20ms, with a power dissipated on bulb of (150ohm x dv/dt)x0.020.
Repeat the step for second capacitor (add power dissipation on first bulb), then we discharge both series capacitors (220v now)  through same type of load of 150ohm, we have starting current 1.467A and after 20ms current is 1.867mA.
value of caps and voltage are just taken for calculation not what was used on previous schematics , theory is somehow we are dissipating 2 x (150ohmx dv/dt)x 0.20 for charging 2 caps and we have available another power disipation of 150ohm x dv1/dt1 x 0.20(not fully discharged).
for nayseyers, thing is better have a deeper look into prior discrediting , schematic of v8karlo may look banal but who knows....

Hello Sparkmen and welcome!

Any idea is welcome here, I am trying to read your text and grasp what you did.
But I see you are good with calc and numbers. And when I saw 250v/4500uf, well, lots of energy.
It could be dangerous. Be careful with that thing!
Everybody thinks that solution lies in complex things, but I can tell you it is not true.Solution lies in simplicity.
I was searching for solution for more than 15 years, 10 years of active experimenting and 5 in thinking. I have 1 scope and 1 digital meter and some money for parts, and my mind.
Because of that limiting factors I was forced to  think more and then, and only then I started to get results.It not come overnight, but over the many years.
I finished high school for electrical engineering and I have bachelor of Information science, faculty VSite Zagreb,but most of my knowledge I gained through learning, trying and failing most of the time.
I received lots of positive responses on my mail from people outside this forum. There are 4 successful replication of Zero outside this forum and 1 in this forum thanks to wistiti member.

In my eyes wistiti did more than many experts on this forum. He was open minded enough to try.

I did my research open source because I realized that is the only way. There is no other way. The power of big corporations lies in secrecy, but power of people lies in numbers. Open source will bring equality for all. Fair start for everyone.

Thanks for the post and stay open minded!
And yes, capacitors are powerful things!

Offline v8karlo

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Re: Zero and Q device
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2019, 10:47:32 AM »
The only other member here who is trying day after day and that member is Westly.
The other members bully him day after day and he does not lose his spirit.
Maybe he does not have working device but he did more for this forum then I will ever do.

This forum is alive because of him. The other members are feeding on his life energy.

It is hard for me to watch that.

He never stopped, he never rested and he always has some idea!
I am sorry Wesley why they treated you that way!

You will succeed, and for me you already did!

 

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