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Author Topic: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible  (Read 2439 times)

Offline norman6538

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Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« on: December 30, 2018, 01:33:23 AM »
The Flynn permanent magnet concept will multiply the flux by 4
and combining this with The Butch Lafonte slider where a magnet
easily slides over a small gap between 2 metals the efffective
flux gain should be 8.

See the attached drawing for more details.

This 3d drawing might  be too much to grasp all at once so I will
explain what Butch Lafonte presented way back. He said place
a magnet on  wheels on  vertical metal like a refrigerator and you
will see how easily it rolls down the metal. Then do the same thing
on two plates with a gap between them.. What you can do is
remove the magnetic field from the leaving plate and combining that
with Flynn which multiplies flux 4 times when a second magnet is
added between 2 metal plates.

Hopefully in the next 2 weeks I can embody this.

Norman

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2018, 07:09:23 AM »
BS

After all these years Butch Lafonte STILL does not understand the concepts of magnetism.

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2018, 03:58:04 PM »
Hi Norman.

I think it is a good idea to merge the Flynn parallel path and the LaFonte slider concept, this way the mechanical input to the Flynn setup could be reduced if I understand you correctly.

I wonder if you came across some thoughts from Paul Noel back in 2006 on how to improve the Flynn parallel path? His thoughts appeared in the peswiki pages of that time, now it all is gone but the internet wayback machine is our friend:
https://web.archive.org/web/20120111112048/http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:FPPMT:Paul_Noel 

So the idea is to use small control magnets (that need small input power to move) to influence the flux path of stronger magnets in the Flynn setup, and you can use 2nd and a 3rd such setup to gain more and more magnetic force in return for a small input. The limit is core saturation you need to avoid in each such stage. 

Thanks and looking forward to your results if I may see them.
Gyula

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2018, 06:22:14 PM »
BS

After all these years Butch Lafonte STILL does not understand the concepts of magnetism.

That  is true and also of many other inventors but I really learned a lot from all he did.
I did make a slider setup that is OU but due to switching losses it would not self run.
I always wanted him to see that but never could get a valid email address/reply.

I also learned that several mechanisms need to be involved to make it work.
My pendulum that goes past its dropped point is also an example of using
gravity inertia and magnetism to make it work. Disturb any of those factors
even a little and it fails or gets stuck.

Over unity exists. I have seen it several times but the switching losses are too high
to make it self running.

Norman

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2018, 09:10:12 PM »
Here is a 2 dimentional drawing that may help understand the basic movement.

Norman

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2018, 09:54:05 AM »
That  is true and also of many other inventors but I really learned a lot from all he did.
I did make a slider setup that is OU but due to switching losses it would not self run.
I always wanted him to see that but never could get a valid email address/reply.

I also learned that several mechanisms need to be involved to make it work.
My pendulum that goes past its dropped point is also an example of using
gravity inertia and magnetism to make it work. Disturb any of those factors
even a little and it fails or gets stuck.

Over unity exists. I have seen it several times but the switching losses are too high
to make it self running.

Norman

It exists but you are using the loudspeaker because you think it is the source of the sound while you should understand it is the signal source that makes the thing sing.
You are using the light bulb trying to make light because you think that the light bulb is the source of the light but you should understand that it is the signal source that makes the thing blink.

This is one of the core elements and very easy to verify yet nobody seems to bother with it and spend their lifetimes trying to make speakers sing and light bulbs blink without any power input, and they are (almost) ALL GOING TO FAIL.
The ones that will succeed, will understand what i wrote and have a different starting point then yours.

Gravity is no different you can throw a ball off a high building Gravity will carry it down, where did the energy come from ?

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2018, 04:32:29 PM »
Turbo, I did not get any of the speaker stuff.
So do you want me to know or do you want to keep it a secret?
Or are you a detractor troll?
Could you or someone else explain this?

Norman


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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2018, 04:41:15 PM »
Turbo, Obviously you did not view my pendulum. So here is what it does.
1. lift to 2 oclock.
2. drops down to 6 and up  to noon and does not get stuck at noon.
3. slowly falls down to 6 and gently stops there.

That is a very sick pendulum. It does not get stuck at the stick spot.
Pendulums do not do this.

So where does the extra 2 hrs of lift come from?

I believe it comes from a combination of forces
1. gravity
2. inertia - requird because when it goes too slow it gets stuck at the sticky spot
3. magnetic
and the real contributor is probably magnetic spin because if you
flip the mags it fails.....

see the youtube here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FzK2XKQ-74
in 11 seconds you will have some serious re-thinking to do.
I keep saying - we do not understand what magnets and electricity are.
We only understand their observable characteristics.

After years on these forums I have come to believe that many folks are not here
to learn - they want to shoot off their mouth/keyboard  with their ideas.
But there also are some really good researchers here far better than I that
I have great respect for. ie Naudin Woopyjump and others.
If you track my posts you will see I ask questions when I don't understand.

PLEASE - MAY WE ALL WORK TOGETHER IN 2019
Norman

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2018, 04:49:15 PM »
It means a speaker will not sing without input power.
And a lightbulb will not shine without input power.

There are no secrets just stop trying to use magnets as batteries, they are not.
They will not magically keep moving when put in this or that configuration.
They are like a lens you can bundle or focus the already present light with them, but they will not shine by themselves.

Take a magnet, observe the magnetic field.
Remove the magnet.
Put a powered coil in it's place, observe the magnetic field.
Remove the coil.
Put Ion wind in it's place, observe the magnetic field.

Is it the magnet?
No, because it's also there without the magnet, and with the coil and the ion wind.
Is it the coil?
No because it's also there without the coil, and with the magnet and ion wind.
Is it the ion wind?
No because it's also there without the ion wind, and with the magnet,and with the coil.

It is already there, always, everywhere.
It is a property of the environment, space.
It's not coming from the magnet, not the coil or the ion wind.
Those only affect it's appearance, and that triggers you to think that you can extract unlimited amounts of energy from it.
That is not the case.
Stop wasting your time, and our's, posting crap pdf's, realize that you need to look elsewhere.
The evidence is overwhelming, STILL people don't understand.
Start with the magnetic field without magnet, without coil, and without ion wind.
Try to power the magnet in stead of trying to power with the magnet.
Therein you will find the answers.

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2018, 05:12:17 PM »
Turbo, I clearly understand what you are saying.
I have shown that permanent magnets can do more work out than in.
The pendulum shows that but a spring will not show that.
And my slider  principle also shows that but it does not have enough extra
to run all by itself which is perpetual motion.

Remember there were mountains on the moon as Galaleo said but his professor's
mind was already made up and he did not want to consider either the facts or the truth.

A recent book that I read makes the same point about our moral origins being mostly
as we say "set in our ways" but sometimes can be changed.
"The Righteous Mind" by Jonathan Haidt  why good people are divided by politics and religion.
after I read this it was as if I had black and white filters on my eyes and after removed
I can see colors. Imagine that. I wish I could see magnets and electricity like Tesla and others.

Norman

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2018, 05:47:01 PM »
It's not the magnets !
And it's not about morals, nor about religion.
But all about repeatable, verifiable results.

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2018, 08:01:51 PM »
It's not the magnets !
And it's not about morals, nor about religion.
But all about repeatable, verifiable results.

I am finished with your arguments because the pendulum you can see with your eyes.
I made it that way deliberately so you can never say "I measured it wrong".
And I will show it to you but no one has ever made one with my advise nor even wanted
to come to see mine.
Some have said I pushed it but I did not. I used a stick to hold it in place and then
slipped he stick out so no push was possible.

I have never said it is a self runner. But it hass more work out than work in because
visually you can see it goes higher than its dropped point.

To me its clearly and unexplainable pendulum as I have clearly pointed out.
Go have a couple drinks and you will get over it.
Remember this is open source and can easily be made in just 1 hr and tested
but no one has even tried to do that. So clearly they think its not worth seeing this
but silly football fans will pay over $2k to see the supperbowl and take away nothing
but lost money.

Norman


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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2018, 08:12:52 PM »
I am not the one claiming 800% here.

Go have a few drinks yourself, with Butch Lafonte, so you can talk about how your going to waste the next year.

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2019, 02:45:34 PM »
I'll spend my time at the bench and learn a lot.
Others spend their time at the keyboard and learn nothing.
Notice - no name  calling or bad words. As dragnet used to say
"just the facts".

Norman

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Re: Flynn / Lafonte slider - 800% OU possible
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2019, 12:41:29 PM »
Can I ask a dumb question here?  Why was this thread started in a section of the forum that is supposed to be about alternative operating systems for a PC?  This thread has nothing to do with operating systems for a PC.

 

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