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Title: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 23, 2018, 09:58:29 AM
This is a thread to try to wake the minds of the sleeping.

You need to think!

You need to stick to accurate educated fact.

You need to know where electrical energy comes from.

You need to know how to conjure electrical energy!

You need to know what problems are faced by conjureing electrical energy.

You need to know how to use such problems to your advantage.

You need to know about timing of such events.

I have seen these machines, I know people that build them. They tell me that you're all to inarticulate to succeed, and you haven't the slightest clue about energy in the first place. They tell me that all of you are stuck in perpetual loops of destruction. All of you are looking in the wrong place. Are you willing to start looking in the right place?

Time to wake from your slumber!

Time to do some serious thinking, make the above statements a known, make the journey forward one of success.

Stop following those that have no idea and will happily lead you down rabbitholes where continued failure lays.

Loose your path of already well known and well explored areas that have nothing to do with the above statements! This is important! Very important!

Be your own leader!

Think certainty, think evidence, think intelligence, think naked truth, make your list, find your answers, make sure you know your path!


The path to your load is one of Insulated Copper Conductor, nothing special, nothing new, it powers your load with Applied Voltage and a flow of Current.



What are the requirements to accomplish these two simple tasks.


THINK! THINK!
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 23, 2018, 01:18:34 PM
This is a thread to try to wake the minds of the sleeping.

You need to think!

You need to stick to accurate educated fact.

You need to know where electrical energy comes from.

You need to know how to conjure electrical energy!

You need to know what problems are faced by conjureing electrical energy.

You need to know how to use such problems to your advantage.

You need to know about timing of such events.

I have seen these machines, I know people that build them. They tell me that you're all to inarticulate to succeed, and you haven't the slightest clue about energy in the first place. They tell me that all of you are stuck in perpetual loops of destruction. All of you are looking in the wrong place. Are you willing to start looking in the right place?

Time to wake from your slumber!

Time to do some serious thinking, make the above statements a known, make the journey forward one of success.

Stop following those that have no idea and will happily lead you down rabbitholes where continued failure lays.

Loose your path of already well known and well explored areas that have nothing to do with the above statements! This is important! Very important!

Be your own leader!

Think certainty, think evidence, think intelligence, think naked truth, make your list, find your answers, make sure you know your path!


The path to your load is one of Insulated Copper Conductor, nothing special, nothing new, it powers your load with Applied Voltage and a flow of Current.



What are the requirements to accomplish these two simple tasks.


THINK! THINK!

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Stop following those that have no idea

Oh well,thats the end of this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 23, 2018, 10:20:49 PM
Oh well,thats the end of this thread.  ;D

Didn't think it would be long before you appeared. The number of posts besides ones name is merely an indication of lack of control of ones mouth. Men of few words often have more to say than men of many!

Don't you have to go and attend to your drinking bird?


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Wiping a glass rod with cat fur changes the distribution of charges on the glass rod, sweeping a magnet at right angles to an insulated copper conductor does the same thing. How does something so simple change the distribution of charge?

Where does charge come from?

Does this distribution of charge constitute a current? If no why? If yes why?

How is a current made to flow in an Insulated copper wire, when a generator coil is electrically connected to nothing! The only thing making contact with the coil over time is magnetic flux?

Faradays law of electromagnetic Induction makes a prediction on voltage only, it makes no prediction on current nor does it estimate the current that will flow. Isn't that odd!

Think people, Think, what are the absolute base requirements to induce a voltage that will allow for a current to flow.

Why can a voltage be present without a current?

What is voltage?

What is current?

What creates a current?

Does magnetic flux have anything to do with the production of current? When an air cored coil can be shown to extrude all magnetic flux when loaded sufficiently! No magnetic flux makes contact with the coil at all! Yet current still flows.

Do not let distractions de-rail your focus! Only a determined mind can succeed!
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 24, 2018, 03:16:55 AM
 author=Mr.Miyagi link=topic=18097.msg528661#msg528661 date=1545600049]
 

 

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Didn't think it would be long before you appeared.

What can i say.
I love a good comedy  ;)

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The number of posts besides ones name is merely an indication of lack of control of ones mouth.

Chris had more posts than anyone else here  ::)

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Don't you have to go and attend to your drinking bird?

No
Old dunky now looks after him self,day in,day out. ;)

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Wiping a glass rod with cat fur changes the distribution of charges on the glass rod,

Not quite
It separate's the charges,and your better off using silk.
This action removes the electrons from the glass atoms,and deposit's them onto the silk cloth- so the silk becomes negatively charged,and the glass rod positively charged.

 
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sweeping a magnet at right angles to an insulated copper conductor does the same thing.



No it dose not.
No charges are removed from the copper conductor like they are from the glass rod.
A force acts upon the free electron's,and causes a charge separation of the free electrons within the conductor.
You hit the ball on the right side,and it moves left--you hit the ball on the left side,and it moves right.

 
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How does something so simple change the distribution of charge?

To which are you referring?

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Where does charge come from?

It doesn't come from anywhere,as it already exists.

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Does this distribution of charge constitute a current? If no why? If yes why?

Separation of charges requires work to be done.

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How is a current made to flow in an Insulated copper wire, when a generator coil is electrically connected to nothing!

If the coil is open,then no current will flow,other than a small amount to charge the self capacitance of the coil during each half phase swing.

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The only thing making contact with the coil over time is magnetic flux?

Wrong.
Any magnetic field that changes in time,has an associated electric field with it.

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Faradays law of electromagnetic Induction makes a prediction on voltage only, it makes no prediction on current nor does it estimate the current that will flow. Isn't that odd!

I make a prediction that there will be a length of rope on a boat,but no prediction can be made on the length of that rope.

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Think people, Think, what are the absolute base requirements to induce a voltage that will allow for a current to flow.

An electric field that is changing with time.

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Why can a voltage be present without a current?

Why can water be present in a pipe without it flowing?

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What is voltage?

A potential difference between separated charges.

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What is current?

A flow of the separated charges along a conductive path between the two charge storage mediums.

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What creates a current?

The flow of charge,mostly electrons and ions.

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Does magnetic flux have anything to do with the production of current?

No.
A magnetic field is the result/bi-product of current flow.

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When an air cored coil can be shown to extrude all magnetic flux when loaded sufficiently! No magnetic flux makes contact with the coil at all! Yet current still flows.

A magnetic field exists when ever there is current flow.

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Do not let distractions de-rail your focus!

Most here are pretty switched on,but i think you need glasses.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 24, 2018, 04:22:03 AM
I am tempted to enter discussions with you tinman, issue being I know your history.

For this reason, I will not enter discussions with you, except to say, you are mostly wrong, you have no proof and your ideas that are right, you do not know why.

I sense you are scared, you are hiding something and you are trying to cover something up - Perhaps soon you will let slip your secret  ;)

You are a half run horse.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 24, 2018, 05:26:56 AM
What I have seen is:

Nine of ten threads here is completely off topic when it comes to simple energy generation!

Most threads are filled with off topic nonsense.

95% of posts do not focus on the actual topic of energy and the generation of it.

Some are wildly posting random topics for others to follow that have zero focus on powering the load.

Some here, names others follow blindly, are so far off topic its a complete circus. Don't blindly follow others that don't know what they are doing! Make your own educated, intelligent, specifically focused goals!

Take a globe, 12 volt, 21 watt, or something you have on hand. Make this your target load, focus on that load, put it up high, on a stand, look at it, ask yourself, what are the specific requirements to light this globe. This globe is your specific focus!

It requires two specific things to light up:

    1: An applied Voltage.
    2: Sufficient current, from a low impedance source.

So, what is your source? Of course you need to know the answers to the questions in my prior posts. How is it that a generator can have a closed coil loop, with zero electrical connection to anything else than itself. Two coils, electrically connected to themselves, yet they can transfer electrical energy in a large volume.

Focus on a new path, ignore the time wasters, shut out the fools that are over complicating a simple task!

    FOCUS

Your Task is powering the Globe!

Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 24, 2018, 05:41:37 AM
Note:

Conduction it is your first and foremost concept. Base everything around Conduction.

Induction it is your second most important concept. Base everything around Conduction and Induction.

    You need a voltage

    You need current, from your source.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on December 24, 2018, 06:14:00 AM
Hi Mr.Miyagi, thanks for sharing, I will give thought to this.
I think current is created by short circuiting our source voltage, a collision, a cat eating its tail.
Of course we can get something useful out of it in the meantime.

Though for my 2 cents worth, I'm going to say we should try and create induction, while minimizing current (conduction) going back and eating our sources tail. :)
peace love light

Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 24, 2018, 07:27:29 AM
Hi Mr.Miyagi, thanks for sharing, I will give thought to this.
I think current is created by short circuiting our source voltage, a collision, a cat eating its tail.
Of course we can get something useful out of it in the meantime.

Though for my 2 cents worth, I'm going to say we should try and create induction, while minimizing current (conduction) going back and eating our sources tail. :)
peace love light

SkyWatcher123, great potential I have seen,

Current is the flow of charge, originally it was deemed as: 6.24 x 1018 electrons passing point Pt1 per second, equaling one ampere. An ampere of Charge is equal to one Coulomb. One coulomb is equal to one farad of charge. Science has meddled with these figures somewhat, and today we have different figures. The electron may not be, and likely isn't the particle making up current, however, this statement is meant loosely.

What is charge? Subatomic particles carrying a charge, randomly distributed, everywhere, seen in quantity in materials of mass conductivity, normally capable of travel, up to but not beyond the speed of light, at least as of today, observed as a static non charged medium until charge potential order is arranged, requiring conductivity and insulation to follow order.

Wikipedia has this to say:

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The speed at which energy or signals travel down a cable is actually the speed of the electromagnetic wave traveling along (guided by) the cable. i.e. a cable is a form of a waveguide. The propagation of the wave is affected by the interaction with the material(s) in and surrounding the cable, caused by the presence of electric charge carriers (interacting with the electric field component) and magnetic dipoles (interacting with the magnetic field component). These interactions are typically described using mean field theory by the permeability and the permittivity of the materials involved. Due to the skin effect, the energy/signal usually flows overwhelmingly outside the electric conductor of a cable; the purpose of the conductor is thus not to conduct energy, but to guide the energy-carrying wave.




Experimentally, a charge pump is required to reach your goal of lighting your load. A pump of subatomic charged particles, it must have minimum impedance and maximum potential. At least 12.7 volts in this case.



Ignore the distractions, do not follow those that would deliberately mislead you! Use common sense! Use logic!



Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: F6FLT on December 24, 2018, 11:09:40 AM
...
You need to think!
...
THINK! THINK!
You should yourself set an example. I'm waiting for you.  ;D
Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 24, 2018, 12:30:15 PM
You should yourself set an example. I'm waiting for you.  ;D
Merry Christmas.



This means you've failed. Waiting for someone else to do the hard work for you means you are lazy, both mentally and physically.

Merry Christmas.



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Electricly charged particles have a magnetic moment. This means you can use electric and magnetic fields to influience these particles. Meaning an electromagnetic machine, one could think of this as an electromagnetic charge pump. Like all pumps, one must create a pressure. Putting these charged particles under pressure, cycling from high amplitude to a low ampitude.

Where does charge come from? An insulated conductor is full of charge, its static and at an equilibrim state. Take a magnet and move it past the conductor at right angles to the wire. The magnet separates the charge, positive to one end, negative to the other. Basic electromagnetic induction. the faster you move, the more charge the terminals will have.

    1: The time rate of change of the magnetic field creates a voltage.

How do you free more charge?

The cyclotron is an example of accelerating charged particles. It uses electric and magnetic fields to put a force on the already existing charged particle.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 24, 2018, 02:06:03 PM


For this reason, I will not enter discussions with you, 

I sense you are scared, you are hiding something and you are trying to cover something up - Perhaps soon you will let slip your secret  ;)

You are a half run horse.

Yes i am.
I am past mid point on life's journey,and getting closer to the point of total freedom.

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1: The time rate of change of the magnetic field creates a voltage.

No
A rate of change over time of an electric field causes an EMF
The changing magnetic field co-exists with the changing electric field.

A static electric field can create an EMF,a static magnetic field cannot.

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except to say, you are mostly wrong, you have no proof

Actually,it is you that is mostly wrong.
Care to go up against me--perhaps a friendly build off,see who can make the most efficient electromagnetic machine?.

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I am tempted to enter discussions with you tinman, issue being I know your history.

Ok,fair enough.
Merry Xmas anyway  :)


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 24, 2018, 02:35:37 PM

Care to go up against me--perhaps a friendly build off,see who can make the most efficient electromagnetic machine?.

Ok,fair enough.
Merry Xmas anyway  :)


Brad




Merry Christmas Brad.



 8)
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 24, 2018, 02:44:04 PM
 author=Mr.Miyagi link=topic=18097.msg528697#msg528697 date=1545651015]


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This means you've failed. Waiting for someone else to do the hard work for you means you are lazy, both mentally and physically.

Well,we are yet to see anything from you--nothing but words so far.

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Where does charge come from?

Charge dose not come from somewhere,it is already everywhere.

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1: The time rate of change of the magnetic field creates a voltage.

Really  ::)
Then how dose a peltier module create a voltage,when one side is heated,and the other cooled ?,----> no changing magnetic field involved there. Could it be an electric field being created,via temperature variant charge separation  ;D

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How do you free more charge?

Perform more work.

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The cyclotron is an example of accelerating charged particles.

So is strapping a battery to a rocket  :D

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It uses electric and magnetic fields to put a force on the already existing charged particle.

To differing temperatures can do that also-->whats your point?.


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 24, 2018, 03:34:24 PM
Brad,

You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself. Your challenges and disagreements are very highly valued in your own eyes. Yet, I sense a high degree of uncertainty.

E is for electric, M is for magnetic, orthogonally they are Electro-Magnetic, known as electromagnetic.

Charge separation comes in many forms, very simple solutions for simple experiments exist.
    Chemical
    Mechanical
    Magnetic
    others...

A good read: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/charge-separation (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/charge-separation) learn something new.

When one catches the wave, one only need ride it down to equilibrium, then one must trigger a new wave peak by bring up the potential again. You have lost the ability to bring forth the wave.

Brad, it appears the confusion you have gained is crippling your intelligence! I think we have found what you're hiding.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 24, 2018, 04:36:36 PM
Brad,

You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself. Your challenges and disagreements are very highly valued in your own eyes. Yet, I sense a high degree of uncertainty.

E is for electric, M is for magnetic, orthogonally they are Electro-Magnetic, known as electromagnetic.

Charge separation comes in many forms, very simple solutions for simple experiments exist.
    Chemical
    Mechanical
    Magnetic
    others...

A good read: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/charge-separation (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/charge-separation) learn something new.

When one catches the wave, one only need ride it down to equilibrium, then one must trigger a new wave peak by bring up the potential again. You have lost the ability to bring forth the wave.



If only you could look past what you read--what others believe creates charge separation.

Why do you find it so hard to understand that one single entity exists in all you list to create charge separation?.

A magnetic field-an invisible force that separates charges
An electric field-an invisible force that separates charges
Gravitational field-an invisible force that separates charges
A chemical field that separates charges
Temperature differentials that separates charges
Massless particles that separates charges

They all have one thing in common--what is it?.
Piece it altogether.

My question to you--
Why dose a magnetic field have to change/vary over time to induce an EMF across a conductor?

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Brad, it appears the confusion you have gained is crippling your intelligence! I think we have found what you're hiding.

I hide nothing--not even my real name.

Are you confident enough in what you preach to come forth with your real name?
Or will you hide behind the name of a fictional character,because you are unsure of what you claim.


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: lancaIV on December 24, 2018, 05:54:53 PM
I do not want to disturb your civil conversion, but give only some links as audient :
thermo-pile as electro-magnet current source
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102004020962&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mi.html : 2 kinds of acceleration by the same time !

Resonance-Modulation : variable signal drive
before a motor or after a generator/ alternator or before a motor and after a generator/alternator :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20060801&CC=TW&NR=200627764A&KC=A#
Sincerely and feliz navidade
                                                    OCWL
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 25, 2018, 12:32:50 AM
lancaIV,

A nice find, constructive and worthy material of study! Thank You!

The population know of the simple things in science. Being a magnetic field generates an EMF in a coil, its easy to explain, its a simple experiment. It is senseless to enter debate about the underlaying and fundamental cause and effect.

People know the changing magnetic field generates an EMF, the faster the change the more the EMF. The more turns the more the EMF but one has to think the turns have a resistance, this impedance increases as the turns increases.

A generator must be free of input to output magnetic effects that are negative, positive effects are a bennefit however, meaning, the input must not be subject to Lenz's Law from the secondary coil. A disconnect is required here!


At the point of disconnect, the secondary coil has no source, there is no pressure to pump current.


What geometry, what arrangement could be implimented to pump current in this secondary coil?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 25, 2018, 10:35:54 AM
Efficiency is an important aspect!

The average person will know that the Heat Pump has an effective efficiency of around 300%. A process worthy of study!

From a technical aspect, the electron, having it's own angular momentum, also having an orbital angular momentum, having its own magnetic moment, a resulting field that is a field of inverse square intensity, at velocity, which we thought of as current in prior posts, but learned that it likely is not the electron alone that is responsible for what we see as a current, and that what we see as a current, is charged particles, at velocity, with the same aspects described, the speed of which is close to but not beyond the speed of light, is directly responsible for what we call the magnetic field.

However, the magnetic field is what we see as being responsible for creating a voltage; under the conditions of velocity and proximity to a conductor. We know that a magnetic field that has velocity, is an electric field. There in raises the question; are the same conditions responsible for each resulting field. The answer is yes.

The same charged particles are at velocity in both situations.

Charge flows down an insulated conductor the same as water flows down a pipe. A wake is the resulting disturbance of the charged particles at velocity, this is seen throughout nature; a boat at velocity leaves a wake; a bullet at velocity leaves a wake; a charged particle at velocity leaves a wake and this wake is called the magnetic field.

Brad had some answers wrong, he was not able to learn why, some of his answers were right but he had no idea why. It is important that you know why your answers are right.

Its just as important to know why your answers are wrong!

As charged particles are put under pressure, as in a heat pump, the potential that we create, that we then put under pressure, then creates a current.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: lancaIV on December 25, 2018, 01:18:52 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle
 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cyclehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_methodhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_engine#Efficiency
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_method (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_method)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exergy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exergy)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cyclehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_methodhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics)

The  work C.O.P. is not by Physics Determination "efficiency".
I think you are referring "300%" the average industrial air/air heat pump work numbers !
Do you know about compressor-free heat pumps, working like closed cycle solar collectors ?!
What would be the overall industrial heat pump work C.O.P using this electric compressor drive :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A#)
inventor recomend also the use of his device for refrigerators: carnot-cycle engine
Second last paragraph from the "description"-page recitating : " .... are compared with the conventional motors to conclude that at most only one eleventh of the power consumed in above cited motors is required. ........"

Alternatively : the Linevich wheel-drive,  in their papers heatpump  apply also recomended !

Now to micromechanical electrical Carnot-Cycle engines :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A#)
" ... The reversible thermoelectric ( reversible : electrothermic) converter can be operated for : ......... "
a multi-functional device spended by the Carnot-Cycle !
Happy days wishingOCWL
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 25, 2018, 03:01:42 PM
 author=Mr.Miyagi link=topic=18097.msg528749#msg528749 date=1545730554]


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Brad had some answers wrong, he was not able to learn why, some of his answers were right but he had no idea why. It is important that you know why your answers are right.

Well it is clear that even in this post ,you have no idea as to what you are talking about.

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The average person will know that the Heat Pump has an effective efficiency of around 300%.

The average person would know that a heat pump is not 300% efficient,and that the extra energy comes from environmental heat.

Not knowing this puts you below average Mr.Miyagi--but no surprise there,looking at all that you have posted.

You are clearly here to spread rubbish,and incorrect information-->or you really are that stupid.

But as time go's by,most here will see(like they did with Chris),that you have nothing to show to back up your claims.


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: lancaIV on December 25, 2018, 03:40:06 PM
Really only external/ environmental heat ?
physical state of matter: " Aggregat(s)zustand" and his change;

katalytischer Prozess durch Beschleunigung=accelerate or Bremsung= decelerare


Pooring or enriching,thereby loosing or winning energy potential and/or elementary specification
How much anergy and how much exergy units needed? Chain reaction moderator ! KATALYSATOR
http://m.digitaljournal.com/tech-and-science/science/new-process-melts-gold-at-room-temperature/article/537875 (http://m.digitaljournal.com/tech-and-science/science/new-process-melts-gold-at-room-temperature/article/537875)

 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830330&CC=ZA&NR=8203054B&KC=B# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830330&CC=ZA&NR=8203054B&KC=B#)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980305&CC=DE&NR=19637710A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980305&CC=DE&NR=19637710A1&KC=A1#)

What differs "Gold" from ORMES-Gold", and how much ORMES-minerals can be find ?Which method to detect and explore this ORMES-mineral ? Only in the Sowjet-Union they had the scientifically knowledge to do this!


Other reversible process :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1#)
Schumpeter: constructive destruction
Atom-/Wasserstoff-/Vakuum-Bombe meets Atom-/Wasserstoff-/Vakuum-Reaktor
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 25, 2018, 04:27:22 PM
Really only external/ environmental heat ?



Yep.

Take a heat pump out into space,and see what the COP is then.


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: lancaIV on December 25, 2018, 04:42:13 PM
Where begins " space" ?Why did the Sovjets not used heatpumps but Infrared emitter in their spaceship M.I.R. ?Is the outorbital space not with an average - 55°C temperature aequivalent and very radio-active by nucleids bombardement ?Has the I.S.S. not Solar-panels mounted ? Space-station ambiental conditioning system ?
SincerelyOCWL

Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 25, 2018, 09:43:37 PM
lancaIV thanks for the links.

The heat pump example was more so an pressure.

Yes I am a little familiar with the various different types of heap pump, however the heat pump is not what I what to discuss. My main focus is charge and the responses of charge under preasure.

lancaIV my friends at Caltech have a saying: "Dont feed the trolls", I now understand what this means.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: lancaIV on December 25, 2018, 10:35:09 PM
Mr. Miyagi,  I mean to understand what you want to describe and I would also like
to see such devices like this " grape-fruit-size" converter
 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870630&CC=US&NR=4677326A&KC=A#
in action !
SincerelyOCWL
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 26, 2018, 12:11:27 AM

I have seen these machines, I know people that build them. They tell me that you're all to inarticulate to succeed, and you haven't the slightest clue about energy in the first place. They tell me that all of you are stuck in perpetual loops of destruction. All of you are looking in the wrong place. Are you willing to start looking in the right place?




I must say, no wonder none comes here to post their work. A few days, and already I have met one loud mouth that can not learn anything, why do you put up with people like this?

It just might be easier for me to go elsewhere to post about what I have seen.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 26, 2018, 06:38:47 AM
Reading a few other threads, it appears the local loud mouth can not even measure simple AC waveforms, even when he is getting help from others trying to teach him what to do. He does not even know about simple impedance matching.

Now it is him making wild claims of OU, 330%. Output Circuit current is not even measured. He has not taken into account phase angles. This is laughable, hilarious in fact! One can not take measurements on a circuit like this the way Brad as done! Tinman (https://overunity.com/17861/bifilar-pancake-coil-overunity-experiment/msg528792/#msg528792), you need to start taking simple bits of advice from others, what a mess!

He is making blunder after blunder and he is here loud mouthing.

Why do you put up with these people? Is there any moderation?

Ban the loud mouth?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: F6FLT on December 26, 2018, 01:36:05 PM
...He has not taken into account phase angles...
This is not necessary because we measure powers and the scope math measurement integrates the instantaneous values. You don't understand what you are talking about.
Show us your method in the right thread, because for the moment we only see from you useless excitements.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 26, 2018, 10:06:19 PM

Output Circuit current is not even measured. He has not taken into account phase angles.




F6FLT - it is clear you have no idea! It is clear you are lazy and a leach for others hard work. It is also clear that your reading and comprehension skills are poor at best!

Brad has NOT MEASURED THE OUTPUT CURRENT, the Scope does not know what the output current is, how can it possibly account for phase angles - you fool!

Go back to sleep in your corner!
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 12:06:05 AM
Brad is not even measuring Input current - he is measuring stray currents to ground, if his FG is grounded, and stray currents to feed his output, but not his output current.

What is wrong with you, why is no one pointing out these major errors?

Brad says, give me your over unity machine and I will measure it and determine if it is real or not, because you can't - he is a loud mouth that cant even get a few simple ac waveforms measured!
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 12:33:41 AM
If you want to learn something, look at the capacitive coupling between brads coils, look at the direction of the currents, if brad had his input measured correctly, and then one could actually come up with a rough estimate of the value on his Capacitor.

Yes, Brad has a capacitor. A complicated capacitor. An example of displacement current and how theory states it may work could be seen to some small degree.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 12:36:02 AM
Brad claims his capacitor is some 300% efficient - I think his education is at question.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 12:41:59 AM
There you go, member Void has actually just said the same thing.

I suggest member brad keep his arrogant un-controlled mouth padlocked and start learning valuable straight forward basic things!

Dammed fool!
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 12:51:25 AM
This incident will be going in my book!

A book about the personalities here that bullied and arranged for the banning of the brilliant mind of Chris Sykes, banned from this forum, so went and started his own to share working technology, the working technology I have seen first hand, been lucky enough to see up close. Other members also having working technology all based on the same work. Chris is the only person throughout history that has had independent replications of his work, including a short lived machine by brad, our resident loud mouth. Brad also assisted in the banning of Chris, making a visible effort to discredit Chris.

Chris's forum: http://www.aboveunity.com (http://www.aboveunity.com), which must be noted, he had the domain purchased months before the banning here, as if he had predicted the result, will not tolerate loud mouths like member brad. Their no trolls aloud policy is hugely successful, and the reason other members are making such wonderful progress. I am already a member there and I think I will be making this post my last here.

So, I suggest, if you don't wish to be stuck in circles, going no-where, with the same no-where people, the ones that have led you down rabbit holes for decades, if you want to make progress, if you want to follow some simple instructions, then make your way over and join the large community of like minded people, learn how to pump charged particles to power your load.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 27, 2018, 04:26:10 AM


F6FLT - it is clear you have no idea! It is clear you are lazy and a leach for others hard work. It is also clear that your reading and comprehension skills are poor at best!

Brad has NOT MEASURED THE OUTPUT CURRENT, the Scope does not know what the output current is, how can it possibly account for phase angles - you fool!

Go back to sleep in your corner!

Your lost-period.

The output is calculated by the voltage drop across a resistor-->and you expect a phase angle :D
 
Turns out the !so called! non inductive resistor become quite inductive above 2MHz--problem solved.
You will notice i used DC coupling though  ::)
You will also notice i use the word !apparently! when OU results are seen--but i guess that means nothing to you ::)

And you dont think a scope compensates for phase angle  ::)

Are we actually going to see anything from you besides constant dribble ?

I always find the mistakes in power measurements that defy current laws,and then post them on the thread--something you would never do.

Anyway-enough time wasted on you.

Hows that book coming along ?  ;D


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 27, 2018, 06:11:54 AM
Reading a few other threads, it appears the local loud mouth can not even measure simple AC waveforms, even when he is getting help from others trying to teach him what to do. He does not even know about simple impedance matching.

Now it is him making wild claims of OU, 330%. Output Circuit current is not even measured. He has not taken into account phase angles. This is laughable, hilarious in fact! One can not take measurements on a circuit like this the way Brad as done! Tinman (https://overunity.com/17861/bifilar-pancake-coil-overunity-experiment/msg528792/#msg528792), you need to start taking simple bits of advice from others, what a mess!

He is making blunder after blunder and he is here loud mouthing.

Why do you put up with these people? Is there any moderation?

Ban the loud mouth?

It is funny watching you ride on the backs of others.

You babble on about impedance match,but you dont know what it is when your looking at it-as in my scope shot i posted,where the voltage and current phases are 0.

Not a peap out of you until void posted what he believes--and bang,your all of a sudden full bottles  ::)

Had you taken the time to look at previous scope shots i posted,using the previous circuit,you would have noticed something. But in stead of doing that,you jump on the band wagon with the first person that states there may be an error.

You are not here to share anything--your only here to pick fights with those you !think! did chris wrong.

You lie about having seen or replicated devices that are OU,and you will never be able to present such a device-because you are simply an out right lyre.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 06:26:18 AM
Ok, I cant resist the urge of subsumption.

A 10 ohm resistor at 2 MHz, that of which you have no "precision" of, especially if it is wire wound, which is highly likely, could have an Impedance of 10 KOhms for all you know!

You assume, because you think you already know better, which makes you foolish!

My book should be going to editing in the next month or so. Because I have more to add, now, it may be slightly later, but not much later.

If I were to post a picture of what I have seen, with the explanation I received, would this end your foolishness?

Truthfully, the end of the RT was unfruitful. Why have you become so interested in others work? Surely your own work would be your main focus?

Is it true that you learned nothing from your RT as Chris has told me?

How does Chris know so much about your RT? I have read none of this anywhere on this forum! How would he know so much about you and your RT?

How does Chris know your RT stopped working?

How does Chris know so much about this whole field?

Why have you posted absolutely nothing more about your Rotary Transformer? When is the Rotary Transformer V4 comming? Is it comming at all?

I find this whole story astounding!

You have gone from hero to zero in a few weeks.

Now you demand to see others work! Why?

My mind is truly exuberant with what's and whys!

The world had a chance of changing forever, the answers and the technology was there, the community judgment was conclusive, it was real, no-one could fault it - then gone.

The story the world needs to hear, the voice all needed to hear, the answer to all the community's questions had arrived. Then it was gone in a flash.

You could have been part of something of massive importance. You ended up being one of the bad guys, how did this happen?

This is just astounding, a truly amazing story!
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 27, 2018, 06:33:38 AM
Brad claims his capacitor is some 300% efficient - I think his education is at question.

Another lie.

Anyone here can go and read post 353 on the bifilar coil thread,and see exactly what i said at the bottom of the post,where i did NOT claim OU at all.

Your true colors are shining through brightly-that being a compulsive lyre.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 27, 2018, 06:40:58 AM
If you want to learn something, look at the capacitive coupling between brads coils, look at the direction of the currents, if brad had his input measured correctly, and then one could actually come up with a rough estimate of the value on his Capacitor.

Yes, Brad has a capacitor. A complicated capacitor. An example of displacement current and how theory states it may work could be seen to some small degree.

No Mr Miyucky-wrong again.

At the right frequency,the bifilar coil will be seen as a pure resistance.

Now,i know your going to be scratching your head,trying to work out how i can claim that,but its  above your paygrade,so we'll just leave it at that.


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 27, 2018, 06:49:40 AM


F6FLT - it is clear you have no idea! It is clear you are lazy and a leach for others hard work. It is also clear that your reading and comprehension skills are poor at best!

Brad has NOT MEASURED THE OUTPUT CURRENT, the Scope does not know what the output current is, how can it possibly account for phase angles - you fool!

Go back to sleep in your corner!

Now,Mr Miyucky

1st--if you new who F6FLT was,you wouldnt be trying to compete with him,as he could chew you up,and spit you out--your not anywhere near in the same league.

F6FLT is in the same league as those like poynt99,picowatt,vortex1,and void--your simply no match.

Now you claim that a scope dose not account for phase angles when carrying out math,and you call F6FLT a fool lol

I bet you use AC coupling when using the scope to measure circuit values lol.


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 06:51:11 AM

No Mr Miyucky-wrong again.


You're angry, ok


At the right frequency,the bifilar coil will be seen as a pure resistance.



Hmm, ok, well Resistance is a well known property of Conduction. A Conductive wire has Resistance, fairly well known to most 5th graders. A pure Resistance, you mean 1 / R? Oh dear, I hope you can tell, I am playing with you  ;)


Now,i know your going to be scratching your head,trying to work out how i can claim that,but its  above your paygrade,so we'll just leave it at that.


Yep, scratching away  ;) Shall we say, Brad, at the point where Resistance reaches Zero, what's Conduction?

Did you learn that in your RT, when you were playing?

Yep, I'm scratching  ;)
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 07:43:31 AM
What is also very clear, is Bradley does not know the difference between Impedance and Resistance!

What Badley is referring to, is actually someone elses discovery: Reduced Impedance Effect (http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/reduced-impedance-effect/), introduced by Chris some 5 and a half years ago - Brad is trying to thieve the credit for this also! Wow this guy is evil.

This is disturbing considering he apparently thinks he is a community leader.

For someone that makes as many mistakes as he has in this instance alone, one has to bring the Rotary Transformer into question. I have seen the videos and it looked pretty conclusive, but, did Brad fake the RT?

Is Bradley a Brad Guy?

The humor is for the Film Crew, for the documentary, filming this whole thing.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 08:39:43 AM
WOW - Book and Documentary delay.

I am calling my Employer, to see what they want to do, at this stage, the story just got bigger!

The film Crew I have with me, filming the entire thing, has detected posts being deleted, edited and so on by Stefan hartmann. I am The.Truth.


Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 08:46:52 AM
This story is now huge, its massive!

The documentary crew are buzzing with excitement! They are saying they will hit the big time, major leagues with this story  :D

Proof of mass manipulation of information, you have seen it: The.Truth has set us FREE!

With your own eyes! Go back and read the posts, look who they have been edited by: https://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/new/#new
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 09:30:19 AM
It is very clear now that they are HIDING parts of The.Truth from you!

Look at the edits! Why edit, what's the reason?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 11:07:30 AM
It is evident, The.Truth has been moderated for asking questions and using publicly available information that anyone with an internet connection can obtain. I see a pattern that resembles our research. The book and the Documentary is now taking a new turn!

The.Truth ask for too much of The.Truth:
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 27, 2018, 11:20:04 AM
 author=Mr.Miyagi link=topic=18097.msg528843#msg528843 date=1545888378]


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My book should be going to editing in the next month or so. Because I have more to add, now, it may be slightly later, but not much later.

Ah ha  ::)

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A 10 ohm resistor at 2 MHz, that of which you have no "precision" of, especially if it is wire wound, which is highly likely, could have an Impedance of 10 KOhms for all you know
!

And your point is?

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Truthfully, the end of the RT was unfruitful.

Only ended for people like you.
It continues on,but just in places !you! just cant go  ;)

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Why have you become so interested in others work? Surely your own work would be your main focus?

Why are you so interested in Chris's work?--oh yea,because you have none of your own  ::)

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Is it true that you learned nothing from your RT as Chris has told me?

Chris couldn't even carry out the simple task of drilling a hole in the laminated core,and you think Chris knows what i dont about my RT lol.

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How does Chris know so much about your RT?

As i stated above--Chris couldn't even drill a hole in the laminated stator,or remove the stator from it's housing,and couldnt work out how i did it. He even took it to an engineering shop(actually 2 i  think),and even they said it couldnt be done with out damage.-->see screen shot of emails below.

I then went to the trouble to make a video,showing how to carry out these two task's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3nWWtmPq6I

And here you are,saying Chris knows so much lol.

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I have read none of this anywhere on this forum! How would he know so much about you and your RT?

Well that's the thing--he dont know sh-t about the RT lol.

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How does Chris know your RT stopped working?

The RT works fine.
As i said,Chris knows very little.

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How does Chris know so much about this whole field?

He doesn't.
He got the shits on when he couldnt get it to work,and even more so when i wouldnt share everything about it with him.
Now,what were you saying about me wanting to build others ideas ?  ::)
If Chris's POC was such a great success,then why was he so darn interested in making my RT work?  ;)

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Why have you posted absolutely nothing more about your Rotary Transformer? When is the Rotary Transformer V4 comming? Is it comming at all?

As a matter of fact,there is a group currently working on V4(if that is what you want to call it)
It's just that your not invited to be there.

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I find this whole story astounding!

Me too.
Fancy saying Chris knew so much about the RT,when he never mannaged to get it working--he couldnt even drill a bloody hole lol.

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You have gone from hero to zero in a few weeks.

I was never a hero,and im happy with zero.

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Now you demand to see others work! Why?

To show others the liar you are--plenty to say,many claims made--nothing to show.

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The world had a chance of changing forever, the answers and the technology was there, the community judgment was conclusive, it was real, no-one could fault it - then gone.

I have to ask
If Chris has it all sorted with a silent solid state device that provides OU,then why would you want my noisey RT ?  ???
I think we all know the answer to that  ::)

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The story the world needs to hear, the voice all needed to hear, the answer to all the community's questions had arrived. Then it was gone in a flash.

You mean removed from the sleepers(like yourself) view

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You could have been part of something of massive importance. You ended up being one of the bad guys, how did this happen?

Only bad guy in your eye's,as you no longer get to see whats going on--your simply not invited.

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This is just astounding, a truly amazing story!

Yes,an R rated movie,which you cannot watch,as you are only a child.  :D


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 27, 2018, 11:23:27 AM






 

Is Bradley a Brad Guy?

The humor is for the Film Crew, for the documentary, filming this whole thing.

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What is also very clear, is Bradley does not know the difference between Impedance and Resistance!

What is clear is that you dont.

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What Badley is referring to, is actually someone elses discovery: Reduced Impedance Effect (http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/reduced-impedance-effect/), introduced by Chris some 5 and a half years ago - Brad is trying to thieve the credit for this also! Wow this guy is evil.

Nothing to do with what im talking about.
But we all knew you wouldnt know--as i stated,it's above your pay grade.

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This is disturbing considering he apparently thinks he is a community leader.

I think nothing of a sort.
Im just a hobbyist --nothing more.

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For someone that makes as many mistakes as he has in this instance alone,

Good,here we go.
Kindly point out those mistakes,and let's see if they are actually mistakes--or you just not knowing what your looking at.

Now,you'll have to leave out the inductive resistor,as i have already posted all about that,within a couple of days.
Lets see if you can point out any mistakes with my calculations,and circuit testing points--i dare ya.

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one has to bring the Rotary Transformer into question. I have seen the videos and it looked pretty conclusive, but, did Brad fake the RT?


Yes,yes--thats it.
That is how you need to think--it was a fake-->put that in your book.

Now that !you! know it's a fake,there is no need for you to worry about what happened to it any more--case closed as far as your concerned.  ;)

Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 11:28:28 AM
Badley, do you think Chris Played you? To see how far you were willing to take the lie?

I do!  ;)
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 11:34:53 AM

You mean removed from the sleepers(like yourself) view

Brad


Now, this line is a critical line to anyone with a trained eye.

I urge all readers, every single one of you to do some research into this line and variants of it! What you find will astound you!

Also, for those of you that do not wish to research this line, how about you just absorb what Badley is saying about you, absorb it.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 11:48:18 AM
I can assure you, Badley is lying again, there is no RT V4 and no one working an any such machine.

Why do you think Badley is demanding to see others machines?

He has nothing, he has nothing, he is in grievance. The RT V3 was a lucky fluke, and now its gone.

Brad had it, now has nothing. It sits on a shelf dead and Bad cant make another one work. He did not take enough time to understand the first one and now he is left with nothing, the grief, the desperation, he has nothing.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 12:22:13 PM
The.Truth had 37 posts. 2 posts have been deleted as you can see, The.Truth now has 35.

The.Truth had a purpose, the purpose has been served. The Documentary now has the extra footage we needed. My book will have to have a chapter rewritten.

The.Truth is, there is a group here, with no doubt in my mind, the evidence speaks for itself, that are here to stop progress, here to stop the right technology getting into your hands. Sometimes things slip through, they, the small group here, get lazy, then they get a hurry up from the powers that be for not doing their job, called into the masters chamber, summonsed.

The.Truth is, its right in front of your eyes. Some here are oblivious to what's going on, they are part of the problem because they do not open their eyes. ( Brad's Comment ) These people then becoming, inadvertently, a player in the problem. Working, freely, for who really is in charge of the system. ( Brad's comment ) At-least at the moment.

The.Truth is, its too hard to see because its so obvious.

The.Truth is, you know where to go if you really want it. It most certainly is not here!
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 27, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
The.Truth had 37 posts. 2 posts have been deleted as you can see, The.Truth now has 35.

The.Truth had a purpose, the purpose has been served. The Documentary now has the extra footage we needed. My book will have to have a chapter rewritten.

The.Truth is, there is a group here, with no doubt in my mind, the evidence speaks for itself, that are here to stop progress, here to stop the right technology getting into your hands. Sometimes things slip through, they, the small group here, get lazy, then they get a hurry up from the powers that be for not doing their job, called into the masters chamber, summonsed.

The.Truth is, its right in front of your eyes. Some here are oblivious to what's going on, they are part of the problem because they do not open their eyes. ( Brad's Comment ) These people then becoming, inadvertently, a player in the problem. Working, freely, for who really is in charge of the system. ( Brad's comment ) At-least at the moment.

The.Truth is, its too hard to see because its so obvious.

The.Truth is, you know where to go if you really want it. It most certainly is not here!

Oh my  :'(

The truth is-some one has forgotten to take there med's today.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: F6FLT on December 27, 2018, 03:35:42 PM


F6FLT - it is clear you have no idea! It is clear you are lazy and a leach for others hard work. It is also clear that your reading and comprehension skills are poor at best!

Brad has NOT MEASURED THE OUTPUT CURRENT, the Scope does not know what the output current is, how can it possibly account for phase angles - you fool!

Go back to sleep in your corner!

I=U/R. To measure U by knowing R is to measure I. It's painful to have to explain this kind of basic beginner stuff. Until you have taught yourself "U=RI", there is no point in giving lessons from the top of your ignorance.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 10:11:13 PM
I=U/R. To measure U by knowing R is to measure I. It's painful to have to explain this kind of basic beginner stuff. Until you have taught yourself "U=RI", there is no point in giving lessons from the top of your ignorance.




A 10 ohm resistor at 2 MHz, that of which you have no "precision" of, especially if it is wire wound, which is highly likely, could have an Impedance of 10 KOhms for all you know!



Ok, I cant resist the urge of subsumption.


Hi Void

Yes,turns out these !so called! non inductive resisters become quite inductive after 2MHz-ok below that.

Swapping it out for a 1/2 watt carbon resistor made all the magical OU disappear  :D


Brad


If I were you, F6FLT, I would have a little break, look for something yoU are good at!
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 27, 2018, 10:12:38 PM
Oh my  :'(

The truth is-some one has forgotten to take there med's today.

I am sad for you, not for me!

Do you know what the result of all this will be?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 27, 2018, 11:56:28 PM


Do you know what the result of all this will be?

Yes
Your book is going to be an epic fail.

Now,you state that i never measured the output power--that phase angle was not taken into account,and that the scope dose not account for phase angle.
So can you please explain to all of us how you go about measuring dissipated power of a load resistor ?


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 12:14:40 AM
Yes
Your book is going to be an epic fail.

Now,you state that i never measured the output power--that phase angle was not taken into account,and that the scope dose not account for phase angle.
So can you please explain to all of us how you go about measuring dissipated power of a load resistor ?


Brad

Your games are on going. As are your lies!

The.Truth is, I was right and you dont like it.

I have nothing to prove to you, or anyone as a matter of fact.

I really would like to see some of you, a little more with your brains and a little less with your mouths. But thats got nothing to do with me. Your path is yours.

BTW - Made any dollars yet from anything other than your Day Job?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 12:46:52 AM
Yes
Your book is going to be an epic fail.

Now,you state that i never measured the output power--that phase angle was not taken into account,and that the scope dose not account for phase angle.
So can you please explain to all of us how you go about measuring dissipated power of a load resistor ?


Brad



Also, I wish to point out, as: F6FLT just found out, Ohms Law can ONLY be used, if at least two of the quantity's are known and guaranteed to be correct. Clearly your Resistance value was not.

An accurate measurement of the current in the secondary circuit as I pointed out would have reveled that as I pointed out.

Why was your Resistance value not valid?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 28, 2018, 03:20:08 AM


Also, I wish to point out, as: F6FLT just found out, Ohms Law can ONLY be used, if at least two of the quantity's are known and guaranteed to be correct. Clearly your Resistance value was not.

An accurate measurement of the current in the secondary circuit as I pointed out would have reveled that as I pointed out.

Why was your Resistance value not valid?

Nice try liar,but you maid your idiotic claim before i posted the fact that the resistor was inductive.

Another face palm you just gave your self lol.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: lancaIV on December 28, 2018, 05:24:20 AM
The heat pump is a roboti, a worker, a working(= moving a to b ) machine.Heat pump user think they are ecological, but mostly they are not.
What are you in search  ?For a machine, quantum-mechanical, a thermalelectric/ thermionic engine, using a thermoelectric cycle ?Thermal :  > 0°Kelvin
This is called " Resonator",I think so !
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About the "energetical" source :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Ferdinand_Braun
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_scattering
Classical Physics Paradox/Quantum Physics state  or Quantum Mechanics Paradox/ classical Physics state
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_magnetoresistance (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_magnetoresistance)  "..... forbidden...."
Naoshi Ikeda
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Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 07:40:28 AM
Nice try liar,but you maid your idiotic claim before i posted the fact that the resistor was inductive.

Another face palm you just gave your self lol.

who was the first to pull you up for all your major mistakes?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 08:23:54 AM
Brad, a question for you, your RT V3 work, what is your most memorable, most important effect you observed? At the time. Back on Chris's Thread.

One thing for me stuck out. One thing in particular over all other things. One thing that was not the figures.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 08:33:14 AM
Chris showed me a lot, told me a lot, I think I understand the basic workings, and some makes sense. But one thing intrigues me. Your RT was shown to have the same thing, its a tell tail sign I guess you could say, you know if you have something if you can show this one thing. Apparently you have been back to Chris's website in the last few days, are you still looking for answers?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 28, 2018, 11:22:16 AM


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Apparently you have been back to Chris's website in the last few days, are you still looking for answers?

And more lies.
Why would i want to waste my time visiting a ghost town>?.
I think you have your IP addresses all screwed up.

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Chris showed me a lot, told me a lot, I think I understand the basic workings, and some makes sense. But one thing intrigues me. Your RT was shown to have the same thing, its a tell tail sign I guess you could say, you know if you have something if you can show this one thing.

I'll make you a deal--right here in public.
You show me a video of one of Chris's POC setups,being measured (P/in-P/out) as accurately as i did the RT shown in the video's,and i will discuss the RT with you.

Now,here is a prediction i will make--also here in public-->
You will not be able to show one single video where Chris's POC device was measured as accurately as i did with my RT tests,nor will you be able to show an !apparent! OU result.

Now,i had two of the best EE guys in the world,that being picowatt and the late MarkE(rivaled only by poynt99-maybe),working along side me,and it was they that formulated the test procedures and protocols.--> I dare you to do better.

Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 28, 2018, 11:26:55 AM
Brad, a question for you, your RT V3 work, what is your most memorable, most important effect you observed? At the time. Back on Chris's Thread.

One thing for me stuck out. One thing in particular over all other things. One thing that was not the figures.

The fact that permanent magnets can do useful work.

There will be many here that will argue that point with me,but i seen it happen on my own bench,as did many that watched the video's.
There simply was no other source of energy that could account for the gain.

This is also backed up by the long term-end result.


Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 12:33:10 PM

I'll make you a deal--right here in public.
You show me a video of one of Chris's POC setups,being measured (P/in-P/out) as accurately as i did the RT shown in the video's,and i will discuss the RT with you.

Now,here is a prediction i will make--also here in public-->
You will not be able to show one single video where Chris's POC device was measured as accurately as i did with my RT tests,nor will you be able to show an !apparent! OU result.

Now,i had two of the best EE guys in the world,that being picowatt and the late MarkE(rivaled only by poynt99-maybe),working along side me,and it was they that formulated the test procedures and protocols.--> I dare you to do better.

Brad


Brad, you ask others with such desperation, of proof.

You do not seem to understand, measurements are irrelevant when the machine is running itself and also powering a load.

I do not do deals. I work from solid, undisputable fact. Fact is you claimed to have working technology behind closed doors on a few occasions, why would you want to have 'proof' of others work?

If Chris did ever decide to make public his work, what benefit would it be to anyone? To those that do not understand it, they will have negative reactions to it. Some will create fancifull Theorys to its workings when truely it is more simple than they could imagine. You will likely have negative reaction to it. It will create confusion, it will create a sort of hysteria.

I do not understand your behaviour!
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 01:01:44 PM

The fact that permanent magnets can do useful work.



Look, old science had a view on this, its ingrained, its wrong, and I agree. A permanent Magnet is by definition a Magnetomotive Force, Force is work, again by definition. To invoke the MMF is the question.



There will be many here that will argue that point with me,but i seen it happen on my own bench,as did many that watched the video's.
There simply was no other source of energy that could account for the gain.



Again, Force is work, F = ma, Kinetic energy - I think many people have a very closed conception of their environment.

At rest a Permanent Magnet is incapable of work. However our surroundings require time varying variables. As soon as a permanent magnet is in motion, the entire situation changes.




This is also backed up by the long term-end result.



Of course your experience in this situation is your own. I did not see your geometry, or the change of it. No videos I saw showed anything of the description you describe. It is a case of taking your word on that.

My experience I will keep quiet for the moment. Its important for me just right at the moment. However, regarding your comment on energy and its origin, the oversight of CONDUCTION, the time rate of change of a magnetic field, the origin of charged particles, and local space time disturbance, the rate of flow at which the environment can allow for the flow of charge is infinite. When one starts to move, another is right behind it, and another and another. A cascade effect is more than possible and to be perfectly honest it is the Pointing Vector that makes such phenomena possible by prediction. All we need is lower the impedance enough to allow for such a flow.


Conduction is of the greatest importance, yet we over look its significance, for without it, electrical phenomena would be invisible to us.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 28, 2018, 01:29:39 PM

Brad, you ask others with such desperation, of proof.

You do not seem to understand, measurements are irrelevant when the machine is running itself and also powering a load.

I do not do deals. I work from solid, undisputable fact. Fact is you claimed to have working technology behind closed doors on a few occasions, why would you want to have 'proof' of others work?

If Chris did ever decide to make public his work, what benefit would it be to anyone? To those that do not understand it, they will have negative reactions to it. Some will create fancifull Theorys to its workings when truely it is more simple than they could imagine. You will likely have negative reaction to it. It will create confusion, it will create a sort of hysteria.

I do not understand your behaviour!

Well i made no claim that the RT was an OU device,and yet i showed power measurements of the device.
You-on behalf of Chris,do make claims of self running devices,and yet you show nothing.

That is the difference between me and you
I make no claims of OU,and yet show my results
You make OU claims,and show nothing.

But anyway,that is normally how it is with those that make big claims like your self--they can never back them up with real evidence.

Brad
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 01:43:04 PM

That is the difference between me and you
I make no claims of OU,and yet show my results
You make OU claims,and show nothing.

But anyway,that is normally how it is with those that make big claims like your self--they can never back them up with real evidence.

Brad






I refer to your post here:






My self ,and a group of very talented people spent 2 to 3 months working on such parametric circuits not to long ago.
We were getting results with COPs in excess of 200%.

What i will tell you is that current can follow paths not considered to exist. After months of testing,we found that a portion of the input power can travel through mid air. This is the portion of P/in they are missing-they being the people in your posted papers.

There are two self running devices that i know of,and have seen running in person--but you simply will not see such devices on public forums such as this one,nor on youtube.

These are not overunity devices,but more so devices with an !unknown! power source. One of them is quite cleverly done,and extreemly simple to build. The other is more complex,and would take a well skilled machinist to construct,and a half decent EE to build the required circuits.

The first machine make use of room temperature nitanol springs-nothing out of the ordinary there,but how he is able to create the required temperature difference without consuming any power is the clever bit.

The second,more complex machine is a bit more baffling.
I have !as yet! been unable to work out as to why it continuse to run once the power source is removed,while driving the equivalent to a 320 watt load. This 320 watts i calculated quickly by how much water was raised a set hight in a given amount of time--so it is a !round about! calculation.

But as i said,these are the machines you will not find here on public forums.


Brad






Bradley, you're a compulsive liar







Honestly, is this the extent of your wisdom?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 03:11:33 PM
No reply? Been caught again, red handed, lying, and you have nothing to say?
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Mr.Miyagi on December 28, 2018, 03:35:29 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: tinman on December 28, 2018, 04:29:16 PM
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I refer to your post here:

These are not overunity devices,but more so devices with an !unknown! power source. One of them is quite cleverly done,and extreemly simple to build. The other is more complex,and would take a well skilled machinist to construct,and a half decent EE to build the required circuits.


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Bradley, you're a compulsive liar


Quote: These are not overunity devices

Face palm  ;)


Brad.
Title: Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
Post by: Floor on December 28, 2018, 08:50:13 PM
Yes

 over unity, just means that we can't explain where the energy comes from

Work from magnets here....
https://www.dailymotion.com/search/seethisvid/videos

               floor