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Offline tinman

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2018, 04:36:36 PM »
Brad,

You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself. Your challenges and disagreements are very highly valued in your own eyes. Yet, I sense a high degree of uncertainty.

E is for electric, M is for magnetic, orthogonally they are Electro-Magnetic, known as electromagnetic.

Charge separation comes in many forms, very simple solutions for simple experiments exist.
    Chemical
    Mechanical
    Magnetic
    others...

A good read: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/charge-separation learn something new.

When one catches the wave, one only need ride it down to equilibrium, then one must trigger a new wave peak by bring up the potential again. You have lost the ability to bring forth the wave.



If only you could look past what you read--what others believe creates charge separation.

Why do you find it so hard to understand that one single entity exists in all you list to create charge separation?.

A magnetic field-an invisible force that separates charges
An electric field-an invisible force that separates charges
Gravitational field-an invisible force that separates charges
A chemical field that separates charges
Temperature differentials that separates charges
Massless particles that separates charges

They all have one thing in common--what is it?.
Piece it altogether.

My question to you--
Why dose a magnetic field have to change/vary over time to induce an EMF across a conductor?

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Brad, it appears the confusion you have gained is crippling your intelligence! I think we have found what you're hiding.

I hide nothing--not even my real name.

Are you confident enough in what you preach to come forth with your real name?
Or will you hide behind the name of a fictional character,because you are unsure of what you claim.


Brad

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2018, 04:36:36 PM »

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2018, 05:54:53 PM »
I do not want to disturb your civil conversion, but give only some links as audient :
thermo-pile as electro-magnet current source
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102004020962&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mi.html : 2 kinds of acceleration by the same time !

Resonance-Modulation : variable signal drive
before a motor or after a generator/ alternator or before a motor and after a generator/alternator :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20060801&CC=TW&NR=200627764A&KC=A#
Sincerely and feliz navidade
                                                    OCWL

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2018, 12:32:50 AM »
lancaIV,

A nice find, constructive and worthy material of study! Thank You!

The population know of the simple things in science. Being a magnetic field generates an EMF in a coil, its easy to explain, its a simple experiment. It is senseless to enter debate about the underlaying and fundamental cause and effect.

People know the changing magnetic field generates an EMF, the faster the change the more the EMF. The more turns the more the EMF but one has to think the turns have a resistance, this impedance increases as the turns increases.

A generator must be free of input to output magnetic effects that are negative, positive effects are a bennefit however, meaning, the input must not be subject to Lenz's Law from the secondary coil. A disconnect is required here!


At the point of disconnect, the secondary coil has no source, there is no pressure to pump current.


What geometry, what arrangement could be implimented to pump current in this secondary coil?
« Last Edit: December 25, 2018, 09:03:49 AM by Mr.Miyagi »

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2018, 10:35:54 AM »
Efficiency is an important aspect!

The average person will know that the Heat Pump has an effective efficiency of around 300%. A process worthy of study!

From a technical aspect, the electron, having it's own angular momentum, also having an orbital angular momentum, having its own magnetic moment, a resulting field that is a field of inverse square intensity, at velocity, which we thought of as current in prior posts, but learned that it likely is not the electron alone that is responsible for what we see as a current, and that what we see as a current, is charged particles, at velocity, with the same aspects described, the speed of which is close to but not beyond the speed of light, is directly responsible for what we call the magnetic field.

However, the magnetic field is what we see as being responsible for creating a voltage; under the conditions of velocity and proximity to a conductor. We know that a magnetic field that has velocity, is an electric field. There in raises the question; are the same conditions responsible for each resulting field. The answer is yes.

The same charged particles are at velocity in both situations.

Charge flows down an insulated conductor the same as water flows down a pipe. A wake is the resulting disturbance of the charged particles at velocity, this is seen throughout nature; a boat at velocity leaves a wake; a bullet at velocity leaves a wake; a charged particle at velocity leaves a wake and this wake is called the magnetic field.

Brad had some answers wrong, he was not able to learn why, some of his answers were right but he had no idea why. It is important that you know why your answers are right.

Its just as important to know why your answers are wrong!

As charged particles are put under pressure, as in a heat pump, the potential that we create, that we then put under pressure, then creates a current.

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2018, 01:18:52 PM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_engine#Efficiency
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_method
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exergy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

The  work C.O.P. is not by Physics Determination "efficiency".
I think you are referring "300%" the average industrial air/air heat pump work numbers !
Do you know about compressor-free heat pumps, working like closed cycle solar collectors ?!
What would be the overall industrial heat pump work C.O.P using this electric compressor drive :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A#
inventor recomend also the use of his device for refrigerators: carnot-cycle engine
Second last paragraph from the "description"-page recitating : " .... are compared with the conventional motors to conclude that at most only one eleventh of the power consumed in above cited motors is required. ........"

Alternatively : the Linevich wheel-drive,  in their papers heatpump  apply also recomended !

Now to micromechanical electrical Carnot-Cycle engines :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A#
" ... The reversible thermoelectric ( reversible : electrothermic) converter can be operated for : ......... "
a multi-functional device spended by the Carnot-Cycle !
Happy days wishingOCWL

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2018, 01:18:52 PM »
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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2018, 03:01:42 PM »
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Brad had some answers wrong, he was not able to learn why, some of his answers were right but he had no idea why. It is important that you know why your answers are right.

Well it is clear that even in this post ,you have no idea as to what you are talking about.

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The average person will know that the Heat Pump has an effective efficiency of around 300%.

The average person would know that a heat pump is not 300% efficient,and that the extra energy comes from environmental heat.

Not knowing this puts you below average Mr.Miyagi--but no surprise there,looking at all that you have posted.

You are clearly here to spread rubbish,and incorrect information-->or you really are that stupid.

But as time go's by,most here will see(like they did with Chris),that you have nothing to show to back up your claims.


Brad

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2018, 03:40:06 PM »
Really only external/ environmental heat ?
physical state of matter: " Aggregat(s)zustand" and his change;

katalytischer Prozess durch Beschleunigung=accelerate or Bremsung= decelerare


Pooring or enriching,thereby loosing or winning energy potential and/or elementary specification
How much anergy and how much exergy units needed? Chain reaction moderator ! KATALYSATOR
http://m.digitaljournal.com/tech-and-science/science/new-process-melts-gold-at-room-temperature/article/537875

 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830330&CC=ZA&NR=8203054B&KC=B#

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980305&CC=DE&NR=19637710A1&KC=A1#

What differs "Gold" from ORMES-Gold", and how much ORMES-minerals can be find ?Which method to detect and explore this ORMES-mineral ? Only in the Sowjet-Union they had the scientifically knowledge to do this!


Other reversible process :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1#
Schumpeter: constructive destruction
Atom-/Wasserstoff-/Vakuum-Bombe meets Atom-/Wasserstoff-/Vakuum-Reaktor

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2018, 04:27:22 PM »
Really only external/ environmental heat ?



Yep.

Take a heat pump out into space,and see what the COP is then.


Brad

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2018, 04:42:13 PM »
Where begins " space" ?Why did the Sovjets not used heatpumps but Infrared emitter in their spaceship M.I.R. ?Is the outorbital space not with an average - 55°C temperature aequivalent and very radio-active by nucleids bombardement ?Has the I.S.S. not Solar-panels mounted ? Space-station ambiental conditioning system ?
SincerelyOCWL


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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2018, 09:43:37 PM »
lancaIV thanks for the links.

The heat pump example was more so an pressure.

Yes I am a little familiar with the various different types of heap pump, however the heat pump is not what I what to discuss. My main focus is charge and the responses of charge under preasure.

lancaIV my friends at Caltech have a saying: "Dont feed the trolls", I now understand what this means.

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2018, 10:35:09 PM »
Mr. Miyagi,  I mean to understand what you want to describe and I would also like
to see such devices like this " grape-fruit-size" converter
 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870630&CC=US&NR=4677326A&KC=A#
in action !
SincerelyOCWL

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2018, 12:11:27 AM »

I have seen these machines, I know people that build them. They tell me that you're all to inarticulate to succeed, and you haven't the slightest clue about energy in the first place. They tell me that all of you are stuck in perpetual loops of destruction. All of you are looking in the wrong place. Are you willing to start looking in the right place?




I must say, no wonder none comes here to post their work. A few days, and already I have met one loud mouth that can not learn anything, why do you put up with people like this?

It just might be easier for me to go elsewhere to post about what I have seen.
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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2018, 06:38:47 AM »
Reading a few other threads, it appears the local loud mouth can not even measure simple AC waveforms, even when he is getting help from others trying to teach him what to do. He does not even know about simple impedance matching.

Now it is him making wild claims of OU, 330%. Output Circuit current is not even measured. He has not taken into account phase angles. This is laughable, hilarious in fact! One can not take measurements on a circuit like this the way Brad as done! Tinman, you need to start taking simple bits of advice from others, what a mess!

He is making blunder after blunder and he is here loud mouthing.

Why do you put up with these people? Is there any moderation?

Ban the loud mouth?

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2018, 01:36:05 PM »
...He has not taken into account phase angles...
This is not necessary because we measure powers and the scope math measurement integrates the instantaneous values. You don't understand what you are talking about.
Show us your method in the right thread, because for the moment we only see from you useless excitements.

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Re: Inarticulate minds stuck in convolution
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2018, 10:06:19 PM »

Output Circuit current is not even measured. He has not taken into account phase angles.




F6FLT - it is clear you have no idea! It is clear you are lazy and a leach for others hard work. It is also clear that your reading and comprehension skills are poor at best!

Brad has NOT MEASURED THE OUTPUT CURRENT, the Scope does not know what the output current is, how can it possibly account for phase angles - you fool!

Go back to sleep in your corner!

 

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