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Offline skywatcher

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #75 on: December 04, 2019, 07:13:21 PM »
I measured the resistance - 1.3 ohm
You have measured the resistance of the electrolyte, but this is not what i mean. If the internal resistance would really be so low then you would be able to draw significant power from the cell, which is obviously not the case. If you measure the voltage of the cell with a multimeter, and then you short the cell with a resistor (let's say 10 kOhm) and measure again, you will see a significant voltage drop when the resistor is connected. If your cell would have only 1.3 ohm a parallel 10 kOhm resistor would have almost no effect. You can do the same experiment on a normal battery to cross-check.

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Offline kajunbee

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #76 on: December 09, 2019, 05:14:02 PM »
I'm not sure how you managed 1.3 ohm resistance with the play doh concoction. I tried several different ratios of salt and other ingredients. The resistance measurements were low while the dough was warm. But then increased to .9 to 1.5 kilo ohms as it cooled. I found that it didn't perform as well as the damp paper towel separators that I use. If anyone can suggest a better separator material it would be much appreciated.

Offline Fysikk

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« Reply #77 on: December 11, 2019, 11:13:26 PM »
I have found a way to increase amperage :

After i putted a ferrite magnet inside the playdoh - i looked at the
digital multimeter and the amperage is rising steadily !!

Update - Explaination found :

Battery charged up the magnet inside the playdoh clay !! (First Experiment)

So when reusing the charged up magnet - there will be no increase in amps !! (Second Experiment)

Magnet is made of ferrite oxide which is a dielectric material !!

I made a hybrid battery\capacitor !!

Sincerly - Kai Anders Wold
« Last Edit: December 12, 2019, 05:52:46 AM by Fysikk »

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« Reply #77 on: December 11, 2019, 11:13:26 PM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2019, 02:52:13 AM »
What color is the play dough?


and ask because the product is literally salt... and dough
and a colorant (some of which are metallic, each color having different metal)

Offline Fysikk

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #79 on: December 15, 2019, 05:22:14 AM »
I'm not sure how you managed 1.3 ohm resistance with the play doh concoction. I tried several different ratios of salt and other ingredients. The resistance measurements were low while the dough was warm. But then increased to .9 to 1.5 kilo ohms as it cooled. I found that it didn't perform as well as the damp paper towel separators that I use. If anyone can suggest a better separator material it would be much appreciated.



Hi Kanjunbee and Skywatcher


I had measured the resistance of 1.3 Ohm of the copper wire !!!

I calculated the real internal resistance of the battery (400 to 600+ Ohm) !!

That means that my latest experiments is not any success !!

Sincerly - Kai Anders Wold

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« Reply #79 on: December 15, 2019, 05:22:14 AM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #80 on: December 15, 2019, 06:29:35 AM »
Your piece of wire is that high of ohms?
What kind of wire do you have?

Offline kajunbee

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #81 on: December 16, 2019, 10:26:47 AM »
My goal was to see if I could make a rechargeable aluminum graphite battery. I've had limited success with the electrolyte recipe I'm now working with. It at least appears to be able to take a charge, but not hold it indefinitely. I'm trying to figure out why the self discharge occurs and how to minimize it. I will try to attach a plot of one discharge cycle.

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« Reply #81 on: December 16, 2019, 10:26:47 AM »
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Offline kajunbee

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #82 on: December 16, 2019, 10:55:12 AM »
The time on the plot is seconds, and the load is 230 ohm. The graphite and aluminum contact area is 2"x 1.5". If the plot was in 30 minute intervals it would be nice. Unfortunately it is in seconds..

Offline kajunbee

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #83 on: December 16, 2019, 01:14:14 PM »
For some reason I cannot view my attachments from my iPhone. I only get a glimpse when refreshing the page. I'll attach again to see if it changes.

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« Reply #83 on: December 16, 2019, 01:14:14 PM »
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Offline kajunbee

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« Reply #84 on: December 16, 2019, 03:09:20 PM »
The reason I say appears to charge is because it could be capacitive charging. The plot looks like a battery discharge curve. But it may also be a combination of the remaining chemical energy plus the capacitive charge. And I haven't worked out how to distinguish between the two.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2019, 05:30:01 PM by kajunbee »

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #85 on: December 19, 2019, 09:03:39 AM »
For some reason I cannot view my attachments from my iPhone. I only get a glimpse when refreshing the page. I'll attach again to see if it changes.


Try shrinking or ‘trimming’ the size before you post

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« Reply #85 on: December 19, 2019, 09:03:39 AM »
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Offline kajunbee

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #86 on: December 19, 2019, 11:51:41 AM »
First attempt to trim photo.

Offline kajunbee

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #87 on: December 19, 2019, 12:00:29 PM »
I still can't view it on my end. Can someone tell me what they see and if it's sized differently.

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #88 on: December 19, 2019, 01:50:17 PM »
I can view the image on everyone else's phone but mine. It's not just my attachment that I can't view. It's just about all attachments on the forum. For instance skywatchers photos on the quantum receiver thread appear on my iPhone, but almost all others don't.

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Re: Selfcharging Battery Research
« Reply #89 on: December 19, 2019, 02:33:34 PM »
But anyway, this is the cell that I mentioned in post #85. For various reasons it performed very poorly. I connected a load of 6 red leds in parralel for 14 hours. After that time it dropped from 1.82 volts to 1.78 volts. The load current was roughly 7 milliamperes.

 

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