Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Tesla Paper

Free Energy Book

Get paid

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 897348
  • *Total Topics: 15815
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 2
  • *Guests: 15
  • *Total: 17

Author Topic: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity  (Read 5621 times)

Offline F6FLT

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 404
Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2018, 11:43:22 AM »
...This is the same reason why two wires with the current in the opposite directions, repulse, as Ampere discovered.
...
See explanation from relativity: chapter 14.8.2 page 236 (pdf).
The discussion would be much more interesting if you knew what you're talking about.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline ayeaye

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 868
Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2018, 05:32:37 PM »
See explanation from relativity: chapter 14.8.2 page 236 (pdf).
The discussion would be much more interesting if you knew what you're talking about.

I have read the theory, why do you assume that i have not?

"Thus the contraction factor for electrons is greater than that for the positive charges"

Don't you see that it's the same, whether we see it as contraction, or just see that a flow of electrons go pass to the opposite direction. When we walk opposite to the crowd, we meet more people than when we walk in the same direction with the crowd, that explains it, and that's saying the same, just with another words. When we walk opposite to the crowd, we can just say that then we meet more people. Or we can say that the crowd walking in the opposite direction is contracted relative to us, and thus more people are near us at any moment of time. That's saying the same, but the latter is a rather weird way of saying it. If you like tell a policeman that the crowd was contracted relative to you and thus there were more bad guys among them, and this is why one hit you, he likely will not understand and may think that you maybe smoked pot which may make a person to see things contracted.

I'm sorry but, it's not interesting to talk with you, as you evidently cannot think and pretend to understand more than you really do, and you evidently don't want to be a pleasant person. I don't know why but you should understand that this makes talking to you not interesting.

When we try to look at one moment of time, and do calculations based on that, then we yes have to use additional constructs such a contraction, and this enables us to do calculations. But that may not be the best way to model it. It can be modeled dynamically at many moments of time.

The difference of the things that can be described as relative, is that simple modeling at one moment of time doesn't show what happens. Such things have to be modeled at many moments of time with some time interval, this will show what happens. Like my explanation of induction with a floating duck and a blower here  https://overunity.com/18033/modeling-induction-with-a-rotating-blower/ , this is by its nature relative as well, thus we cannot understand it when we see what happens at one moment of time. But we can understand it when we see what happens at two moments of time, with a small time interval.


Offline F6FLT

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 404
Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2018, 03:49:12 PM »
The right method, ayeaye, not the left one !!!   ;D

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2018, 03:49:12 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline ayeaye

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 868
Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2018, 06:26:26 PM »
The right method, ayeaye, not the left one !!!   ;D

Now you showed your ignorance. You ridicule me without even saying anything about what i said. This is lame and ignorant, i'm sorry but, nothing else to say. You lost.

Tells lame joke, no one laughs, "You guys just need to get on my level."  http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/355vsc ;D

The rubber ducks have a hole at the bottom, so they were soft, when squeezed. Yet in spite of that, they float on the water. I have no rubber duck, i found that i have a rubber fish though, which is almost the same. But i don't have a hair dryer, these cost $6 in eBay. Someone who possesses the necessary items, may replicate my experiment  :)  https://overunity.com/18033/modeling-induction-with-a-rotating-blower/

Hope you don't ridicule Meyer. One ate a wrong food in the restaurant, one did something, and thought about consequences later, isn't it funny? ;D After that, his buggy was mysteriously lost, but one has to omit some details, to draw desired conclusions from the facts. ;D


Offline postingsite

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 114
Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2019, 12:32:14 AM »
If the Meyer device did generate excess output( self-sustaining although using water ), in recent times it seems likely the source may have been in the electrical-circuitry rather than electrolysis -
   - an amplifying-transformer by using thicker-wire ( more turns ? ) on the secondary-coil / output-coil
   - or a resonance effect, by fitting ( interlocking, like cog wheels ) the wave-pattern of one electric-circuit/generator with the wave-pattern of a second identical electric-circuit/generator
   - I don't know if alternating current was in his design, if it was, that could ( ? ) have been the source
   - I don't know if a rotating-generator was in his design, the now common known methods using this may have been the source
So, maybe this device was an electrical-amplification-device generating excess output, with the electrolysis component added to make the device appear to be dependent on a limited amount of water that had to be re-filled when used, which would make it more marketable, and easier than fitting electric-motors to drive cars, if most cars can modified to run on hydrogen

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2019, 12:32:14 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline postingsite

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 114
Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2019, 01:43:56 AM »
Over a 1-second interval, I assume that most waveforms of pulsed-current would use less energy than non-pulsed-current ( if the non-pulsed-current is at the power-level of the top-most/most-powerful part of the pulsed-current waveform ),  so there is a massive increase in efficiency already just by using pulsed-current .

  Also, since in many types of pulsed-current ( waveforms ) the current never completely switches off, does this mean that the resistance-to-electrical-conductivity  of the water is constantly reduced,   meaning that even at the least-powerful/lowest-part part of the waveform,   the water is still kept to a state of being electrically-conductive ( at least partially, although I don't know anything about reaction-times or delayed reaction-times of conductors  etc ).  Note, this is something that would probably not be achieved with perfect-square-wave waveforms.
  [  I thought that this not only applies to water, it also applies to wire, I seem to remember reading on this site that people use waveforms containing an advance smaller-pulse to break down the resistance of the wire to electrical conductivity,  which is odd,  because I was sure that even the smallest of currents are able to flow in commonly used wiring and conductors,  however maybe what I read 'may' have referred to the resistance of cores in transformers to becoming magnetized very very briefly, during / within the AC oscillations ]

 
   
   

Offline ElectricVortex

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2020, 09:22:41 PM »
Meyer certainly understood the "overunity" gain of his resonant water molecule fracturing process. In fact every time he dislodged "electron" from the produced brown gas, he achieved higher energy production when burning the gas in the explosive reaction. Theoretically one could achieve very non static energy potential this way only the voltage being the limiting factor of such a process.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Did Meyer not know what already existed, or was it non-overunity
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2020, 09:22:41 PM »
Sponsored links:




 

OneLink