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Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« on: November 17, 2018, 03:11:47 AM »
Just say that  Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices draw in  Aether-Soup  particles to power themselves .

And say that  Aether-Soup  particles are also the grid / matrix of time .

So, a Self-Powered-Overunity-Device could literally warp the grid / matrix of time .

Say that you have a  Self-Powered-Overunity-Device  running in 2016, and one running in 2018, would there be a chance of them forming a time-tunnel .
   If they are the same machine, or, different machines, it could be possible that a time-tunnel made of 5 gates/machines could link each machine to the others .

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I am not sure or have forgotten why the two following points should be relevant to this post .

     - Is it possible that light cannot travel in a vacuum that has no Aether-Soup,  that it would fade to nothing in such a vacuum .
 
    - Some people on this site don't realize that when light enters a medium like crystal or whatever,  the light you see exiting from the crystal is not what entered it .
           When light enters a crystal, it hits electrons/protons etc, and they absorb the photon, however,  they then emit a photon,  and this happens from atom to atom in the crystal until you see light exiting from the crystal .
            I don't know how completely correct or accurate my description is, it is what I have read on authoritative websites, also,  I'm not sure what happens in gases like the earths atmosphere etc .

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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2018, 11:24:35 AM »
About your first point about time, it's known that time and energy are tightly related and this could suggest ideas to get "free" energy. Nevertheless the level of energy that would warp the spacetime is tremendous, unreachable with our current technology and not even predictable that it could be reachable in a far future.

Propagating light is only an electromagnetic field. A field at a point is defined by a scalar or a vector, it is indistinguishable from any field of same value. It's not relevant to think in terms of delimited and independent physical things that would really fit our mathematical models and could be traced, such a photon that could be or not be "the same" after reflection on a mirror.
Moreover a photon is just the quantum of energy that is exchanged between field and matter when there is a matter/wave interaction, for instance in the photo-electric effect. Unlike photo-electric effect or phosphorescence, it's not clear if reflected light does or doesn't involve absorption and re-emission. Incoming and reflected waves present a phase continuity and the delay is almost unnoticeable (unlike light passing through a dielectric like glass where it is slowed due to countless interactions).

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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2018, 08:23:25 PM »
About your first point about time, it's known that time and energy are tightly related and this could suggest ideas to get "free" energy. Nevertheless the level of energy that would warp the spacetime is tremendous, unreachable with our current technology and not even predictable that it could be reachable in a far future.

Only ignorant people believe in primitive magick things such as spacetime. Because they are only capable of mechanically memorize what they are told, and are not capable of thinking by their own. Time is not a dimension, time is only a measure of causality, one cannot move back in time and change things in the past, this is a paradox. Time also has to be quantized and cannot be continuum, because of another paradox. But ignorant people with only ferial thinking ignore such subtle details and consider time a "dimension".

Not to talk that they have never read the scriptures of all major religions, because they cannot understand that people can have different beliefs and all these don't have to be true, as they are only capable of believing one thing.

When you use the word magick, do you even know what it is? Have you ever read the emerald tablet? Newton did.


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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2018, 10:17:09 AM »
Only ignorant people believe in primitive magick things such as spacetime. ...
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By thinking in this way, you are denying electromagnetism, which is totally compatible with relativity. Space-time, our 4D universe, is such a powerful concept that we don't even need electromagnetism theory. The way in which relativity can recover all the effects of electromagnetism, from Coulomb's law and from the relativistic effects of charges moving relative to each others proves, beyond any doubt, its power and relevance.
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one cannot move back in time and change things in the past, this is a paradox.
Relativity is incompatible with this idea. By asserting that spacetime theory would allow time travel, you show that you don't master the least principle of what you are taking about. Relativity prevents time travel as you understand it (paradox) and it guarantees causality.
Nevertheless you can prove you're right by carrying out new experiments whose results would differ from those of current theories. Otherwise your wishful thinking is useless and  placing Einstein among the "ignorant people" suggests a Dunning-Kruger effect.


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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2018, 10:19:20 AM »
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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2018, 01:11:27 PM »
By thinking in this way, you are denying electromagnetism, which is totally compatible with relativity. Space-time, our 4D universe, is such a powerful concept that we don't even need electromagnetism theory. The way in which relativity can recover all the effects of electromagnetism, from Coulomb's law and from the relativistic effects of charges moving relative to each others proves, beyond any doubt, its power and relevance.

You mess up things pretty well.

Relativity is an important concept, i completely agree. But relativity doesn't necessarily mean Einstein, and it doesn't necessarily mean spacetime. Schrödinger equation is not relativistic btw in your Einstein sense, good luck diving into this, many others have tried and no one succeeded. Which doesn't mean that it is not relativistic in other sense, relativity is wider than Einstein.


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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 01:42:44 PM »
Aether-Soup  particles are also the grid / matrix of time .

No. Aether soup particles are grid of space, not grid of time. So all your conclusions about time are irrelevant.


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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2018, 07:07:15 PM »
F6FLT, be friends. There are things you know more than i do, and there are things i know more than you do. This argument is intellectual, not personal at all. Here are not so many people, so everyone is important.

But please do at least one experiment showing that your copper ribbon coil has no overunity. You say that it has no overunity, without testing it, this is not scientific. Test it and show the results. It is important to know that something has no overunity, and more than that, from the results more may be learned about such coils with quite a unique properties. You have great tools, put them to use. Be friends, work together.

You may start your own thread about copper ribbbon coils, so people can learn more about such coils.


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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2018, 01:01:38 PM »
You mess up things pretty well.

Relativity is an important concept, i completely agree. But relativity doesn't necessarily mean Einstein, and it doesn't necessarily mean spacetime. Schrödinger equation is not relativistic btw in your Einstein sense, good luck diving into this, many others have tried and no one succeeded. Which doesn't mean that it is not relativistic in other sense, relativity is wider than Einstein.

Relativity implies space-time, and relativity is an Einstein's theory. "Relativity is wider than Einstein" means nothing to me. Something that is a theory cannot "be" comparable to something that is a man. If you mean that relativity is a theory that has not been fully defined by Einstein, I consider it's false (even if works of Lorentz or Poincaré contributed to the development of Einstein's idea, everyone influences each other). If you mean that relativity can lead us to understand things beyond Einstein's ideas or beyond the ideas of his time, you're right.

F6FLT, be friends. There are things you know more than i do, and there are things i know more than you do. This argument is intellectual, not personal at all. Here are not so many people, so everyone is important.

But please do at least one experiment showing that your copper ribbon coil has no overunity. You say that it has no overunity, without testing it, this is not scientific. Test it and show the results. It is important to know that something has no overunity, and more than that, from the results more may be learned about such coils with quite a unique properties. You have great tools, put them to use. Be friends, work together.

You may start your own thread about copper ribbbon coils, so people can learn more about such coils.

It's not a question of friendship, we talk to each other nicely, but it's a discussion about science and technology. Then we must use a scientific attitude (and method).

Proven theories that explain thousands of facts and observations, that are internally consistent and compatible with each other, are neither to be rejected without evidence nor replaced by ones would explain only a few particular cases of which it is not even certain, and by far, that they are not also explained by classical theories.

And when I see that this rejection is due to misunderstanding, I say so. Being friends means not hiding the truth from each other, even if it is only the idea we have of the truth and that it may differ between us. Note however that here, it is not only a simple opinion, for example I can justify that relativity guarantees causality, it is well known and necessary by formalism, and you cannot justify the opposite by a logical and rational demonstration.

An immodest attitude against current theories that have proved their worth must be justified by other solid theories that also explain what the former explain, and that explain in addition facts that the former would not explain, all well supported by observations and experiments. When this is not the case, the psychological bias of the Dunning-Kruger effect perfectly explains the situation. Point 4 of this effect indicates that being aware of the situation allows to leave it. My argument is also intellectual, not personal at all, funny idea to think otherwise.

So I think that when you understand that relativity doesn't prohibit time-tunnels but prohibits time travel in the sense that you mean it (possibility of paradox), that time does not necessarily have to be quantified (we don't know yet) but only QM has to be harmonized with general relativity because they are incompatible (while special relativity is compatible with QM), then you will no longer reject it. This does not prevent anyone from finding better solutions if relativity did not explain certain things in its field of application.


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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2018, 02:36:37 PM »
Proven theories that explain thousands of facts and observations, that are internally consistent and compatible with each other, are neither to be rejected without evidence nor replaced by ones would explain only a few particular cases of which it is not even certain, and by far, that they are not also explained by classical theories.

I'm sorry, but i reject everything that causes paradoxes, no matter how well established or "proven". Like spacetime implies that time is a dimension, and it is possible to move backwards by a dimension, thus i reject the concept of spacetime altogether, as a misnomer, or at least misleading.

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It's not a question of friendship, we talk to each other nicely, but it's a discussion about science and technology. Then we must use a scientific attitude (and method).

No you don't use scientific method, as you make conclusions without doing experiments. And it evidently is personal, in spite that i didn't want it so.


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Re: Time-Tunnels using Self-Powered-Overunity-Devices
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2018, 03:09:16 PM »
I'm sorry, but i reject everything that causes paradoxes...
I too. Relativity too. What don't you understand in "relativity guarantees causality, and time tunnel without paradoxes"?!

QM also allows that:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/7904712/Quantum-time-machine-allows-paradox-free-time-travel.html
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