How about putting methylene chloride into the tubes that are supposed to imbalance the wheels and since it dips below the surface of water, let it also be covered with a thin layer of felt (like the drinking bird) and as it comes out of the water and the minute heat dissipating from evaporation will cause an imbalance in the wheel.  Think of it as a circular drinking bird generator.  You probably wouldn't need that much of an ambient temp. difference.

Whaddya think?? 

Bruce willis is it???

you could EASLY GET -O-V-E-R-U-N-I-T-Y WITH THIS. 8hp from a W-A-T-E-R W-H-E-E-L- (AND use an small electric current to heat the water)OR USE A Candle LOL!

Get some gears .. um Tough gears , it spins at 1Rev a minute but 8 Hp (like a diesal Engine,how powerful are diesal generators again? something like 5-7hp?)

While I gazed in disbelief, Wally explained how his incredible power wheel works (see diagram above).

A few weeks later I again visited the Kinetics lab. By then the propane bottles had evolved into 12 containers of steel pipe welded into a polygon. The principle remained the same. I watched as Wally opened the valve to let in a trickle of water from solar panels on the roof of his parking shed. The water temperature was 155 degrees F.

Almost imperceptibly, the wheel started to turn. The speed picked up a bit and I timed a revolution -about one rpm. Minto noted my misgivings. "Try holding onto the shaft," he said. I grabbed the shaft firmly - it was as if I'd tried to stop some eerie, irresistible force: no sound, no evidence of power, just pure twist.

"Picture one 200 feet in diameter," he said. This time my mind boggled. Such a rig might hoist the pyramids.

Wally doesn't expect industrialized nations to scramble for his wheel, and he isn't selling anything. He's donating it as a "gift to the world" and expects it will be used in undeveloped, energy-short areas.

For example, a practical 33-ft. diameter wheel running on a temperature difference of as little as 3 1/2 degrees F and producing several horsepower could pump irrigation water, grind grain, or saw wood. The materials could be scrap pipe, and no machining or skills are needed to build it. Several low-boiling materials might be used, but propane or R-12 may be best.

Minto estimates a slightly larger (40-ft.) wheel with 14 pairs of 1-ft. x 4 1/3-ft. containers would provide 10,240 ft./lb. of work per container as each 269 lb. of liquid responds to gravity through a 20ft. lever arm. At only one rpm this is 8.69 hp; not spectacular, but low cost and capable of running steadily for generations. The slow rotational speed can be stepped up to whatever is needed, just as with the old-time waterwheels.

No fuel would be needed in many cases. The temperature difference required between the liquid on the bottom and the top occurs naturally in many situations: water and air, light and shade, etc.

Minto has outlined construction details in a two-sheet paper entitled "The Minto Wheel." There are no restrictions on building or experimenting with the wheel.

AND ITS VERY SIMPLE TO BUILD THEN RATHER FIGUREING OUT HOW TO MAKE A STUPID MEG RUN.

And low cost and CHEAPER THEN A MAGNET MOTOR.

+GEARS + ALTERNATOR (IF YOU USE USED AND POSSIBLY NEW..)

AND USE THE ELECTRIC WHICH IS GENERATRED (AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE MUCH TO HEAT WATER 2C , DO YOU???)

MORE LIKE 200 -500W > 3-4KW o_0.

THE ONLY DOWNSIDE WOULD BE ERM NOTHING .

OR BUY A 500 W HEATER

so Overunity can be made with this 19'70's motor

a 500 w heater is hotter then your Hand , so a sterling engine can run on your hand (low temp) , so Overunity looks GUARENTEED With this 70'S Machine.

Well from what i understand and have wised up despite my posts years back that i find embarrassing.


At the very best and this is full proof even in science is that you can use energy saving methods to save power but would not be overunity, absolutely nothing would achieve over unity and this is what i have learned.


Things like the back emf method is a energy saving method but would not give you overunity but at best with this method you are saving energy for example.


So yeah at the very best it would be energy saving methods but not overunity, anyone agree?


I think everyone would agree.



Dan.

I learned that you cannot get a heat pump that uses extracted energy to self run and be overunity

Yes.

Apart from you in post 7, NOBODY is suggesting that this device is overunity. It isn't for reasons ranged above.

However, it might be useful as any heat pump is useful. It might also quietly drive some sort of Bedini, Adams or other device and thereby produce an overunity end result.

The minto wheel is delightfully intriguing, the details of its complexities are obscured by the simpleness of the apparatus.

The costs of vaporization and condensation are massive compared to the shaft output.

To try and close this into a closed cycle seems impossible from the standpoint of offsetting the vap costs.

I have learned a method that pays for vaporization cost from stored and recycled internal thermal mesh energy. So it becomes a probability to close the cycle with abundance.

Trying to add exchangers of warm and cool sources is likely to alter the form of the wheel.

It is prolly best kept as a low tech environmental powered "thermal water wheel" for SHAFT OUTPUTS. I like it!

Discussion about close loop mesh exchange phase change goes off topic.

Best of wishes and thanks to Minto!