Hi everyone, i recently stumbled across magnet motors and overunity concept while bored on the net one day and ever since then i have found myself obsessing over the idea of it. having come from an academic background in electronics i naturally bonded to the possibility and read as much as i could find as well as view the odd youtube clips. personally, and without actually building anything of the sort i find myself an avocate of the idea. magnets do indeed exert a force the same way an electromagnet would but without the current applied to creat the magnetic field. i am pretty sure it is possible to arrange magnets in such a way to create a rotational force to to carry out work the same way many of the ideas here are shown. what i can't understand are all the people that come on here insulting the idea's as well as the people that decide to pursue these possibilities. i mean why even waste your time preaching from your ivory tower about how stupid someone might be for even thinking it is possible. why waste the time to join a forum specifically about free energy if you do not beleive in the concept??? it makes you wonder where the motive lies.... i hope all the serious guys who kindly take the time to try these idea's can appreciate what i am talking about because i always end up reading down into arguments that simply get nowhere other than to diffuse the original topic. And before anyone tries to jump on my assumptions can i just point out that no, i don't believe this is perpetual motion. this is simply a collection of ideas that harnes the magnetic force created by magnets. i am not quite sure why people think this is a violation of conservation of energy and that somehow magnets run down in a short period of time either. if this was the case then how would the average electric motor or a permenent magnet generator last the years that they do utilizing the same principals. Also i can very much believe the energy companies would have something to worry  about if these devices were brought to commercial market. the oil companies alone make millions every minute of the day so i'm sure they would do everything in their power to conserve the infrastructure of their companies and the billions they have invested in supplying us that oil. all that is very serious money which would make a huge dent in the economy all over the world so you can't really blame them. for the greater good one might say but this still does not take away the fact that this is a very viable energy solution. just my 2 pence worth.... thanks