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x_name41

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current amplifier as key to the free energy )
« on: October 28, 2018, 05:55:56 AM »
here one russian gay create free energy device (based on Ruslan Kulabuhov device) where output coil from the "grenade" is connected to the current amplifier representing something like "air autotransformer" to which is connected many powerful lamps...
the current amplifier circuit is located in this archive
the source

p. s. Congratulations to you with this free energy device ))

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Re: current amplifier as key to the free energy )
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2018, 01:54:24 PM »
another view but still not enough to experiment with  but thanks any way
« Last Edit: October 28, 2018, 04:07:03 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: current amplifier as key to the free energy )
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2018, 04:15:48 PM »
some more important things about current amplifier, it matters how the windings are rolled in what direction. For example capture coil in the current amplifier is coiled on a opposite direction relative to the his other winding. In the circuit gets himself something like a LC resonant circuit formed by parallel connected capacitors and the current amplifier, which in turn harmonize the load with LC resonant circuit...

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2020, 05:33:42 PM »
some more important things about current amplifier, it matters how the windings are rolled in what direction. For example capture coil in the current amplifier is coiled on a opposite direction relative to the his other winding. In the circuit gets himself something like a LC resonant circuit formed by parallel connected capacitors and the current amplifier, which in turn harmonize the load with LC resonant circuit...

Hey Tool,

You pointed to Chris, and he pointed to this thread, and this current amplifier with bucking coils (amplifier).
People do try to extract energy from resonant LC, and not to kill resonance, on many ways.
This looks to me like LC parallel resonant tank circuit.

So you are talking about same thing as I do, but you are unaware that this is resonant circuit and another try to tap its energy.

And, whole point of all of this around resonant circuits is "how to tap resonant circuit energy and not to destroy resonance".
Because, when you try to tap resonant circuit energy, you change input parameters and resonance is gone.
That is the main problem.

There was many solutions to this which do not work.
One will, for sure!

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2020, 05:55:11 PM »
For now, I am still trying to figure out what it means to combine Voltage and Current? The words of Don Smith.

I mean... Voltage and Current come together usually, all in the same wire? Whats the point of this sentence.

The point of this sentece to me, is that there are 2 distinct circuits that get merged. And this technique is OU in itself.

Now I trying to figure out the optimal circuits for each role, and how their resonances should interract, because thats gona be my call to make.

We can even discover their shapes and what advantages certain shapes propose. All this and plenty more...

A driving circuit will control all of your theory. And it should be reliable and appropriate.




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Re: current amplifier as key to the free energy )
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2020, 06:06:33 PM »
Hey Tool,

You pointed to Chris, and he pointed to this thread, and this current amplifier with bucking coils (amplifier).
People do try to extract energy from resonant LC, and not to kill resonance, on many ways.
This looks to me like LC parallel resonant tank circuit.

So you are talking about same thing as I do, but you are unaware that this is resonant circuit and another try to tap its energy.

And, whole point of all of this around resonant circuits is "how to tap resonant circuit energy and not to destroy resonance".
Because, when you try to tap resonant circuit energy, you change input parameters and resonance is gone.
That is the main problem.

There was many solutions to this which do not work.
One will, for sure!
How did you come to ( 100 microfarads and 1milihenry = 503.29hz ) ? well, it's not 50hz :o   try 100mhry and 100 uf if you can get one

WhatIsIt

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2020, 06:16:30 PM »
For now, I am still trying to figure out what it means to combine Voltage and Current? The words of Don Smith.

I mean... Voltage and Current come together usually, all in the same wire? Whats the point of this sentence.

The point of this sentece to me, is that there are 2 distinct circuits that get merged. And this technique is OU in itself.

Now I trying to figure out the optimal circuits for each role, and how their resonances should interract, because thats gona be my call to make.

We can even discover their shapes and what advantages certain shapes propose. All this and plenty more...

A driving circuit will control all of your theory. And it should be reliable and appropriate.

Resonant circuit (serial / parallel tank) is not hard to make.
I must mention here reactive power and power correction factor as well, because they come in package with sine AC.
In this parallel resonant tank circuit, capacitor is also power correction element and weird coil before him is attempt to deal with reactive power as well.
You have plenty examples all over YouTube about resonant circuits.
Lots of them.
That part is extremely easy.

Second, you have to probe your circuit and make sure it does store lots of energy as it should in resonant circuit you make (serial / parallel tank).

And third, try to tap its energy, and watch what happens with resonance, which is the hard part.
This is the part we been trying to achieve.

And this third part is part when I come to Inogda video,
where old man suggest taping power from iron core, wire,
which is perpendicular to resonating coils,
and like that, they are not in induction mode with resonating coils,
and there is a chance that in that perpendicular concept,
resonance is not killed, and power can be taped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXbNVCLF2u0&list=PLTEVPx9qTZUrqLIqJQ9Zd1RYtR2C7FnKN&index=57&t=0s

Voltage in wire means how electrons will distribute along different points of potential.
Voltage is points of potential.
Distribution of electrons, moving of electrons we call current.
When electrons distribute equally and settle in wire, there is no different points of potential any more and no more voltage.

I don't know what bothers you.

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2020, 06:46:28 PM »
How did you come to ( 100 microfarads and 1milihenry = 503.29hz ) ? well, it's not 50hz :o   try 100mhry and 100 uf if you can get one

Ray, the circuit is just example how parallel tank looks like.
There are many of people which visit this forum unaware of existence of LC resonance,
so it is for them, not for you.
And circuit is ideal, so we can not rely entirely on this.
Lots of power comes from source itself, not only from cap.
Cap is reflecting portion of energy back to inductor.
Actually, cap serves as power correction factor element,
and reflects its energy along with source energy to inductor,
which results in higher stored energy in inductor.
You can put 1 uF and see lots of power, which is actually from source.

Of course, in real circuit it will be little different, and with appropriate frequency.
All over the net there are examples how to calculate resonant LC, so I did not put the right values,
just first one which crossed my mind.

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2020, 07:02:58 PM »

A driving circuit will control all of your theory. And it should be reliable and appropriate.

Any driving circuit which outputs few W and sine will do for experimental testing.
And it is not theory, resonant LC is known for a long time.

How to tap its energy is enigma?

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2020, 07:42:09 PM »
This video demonstrates how perpendicular windings behave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BfDo5A3Gx8&list=PLTEVPx9qTZUrqLIqJQ9Zd1RYtR2C7FnKN&index=31&t=0s

One winding does not affect the other, but, still, the transfer of power is possible,
which brings me back to inogda video and idea how to tap LC resonant circuit energy.

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2020, 05:19:29 AM »
   The transformer was novel for sure. I did not see though, what the voltage on the secondary was. Only amperage. Will have to wind up a couple of coils that way and do some runs for best output and frequency response.

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2020, 01:36:56 PM »
   The transformer was novel for sure. I did not see though, what the voltage on the secondary was. Only amperage. Will have to wind up a couple of coils that way and do some runs for best output and frequency response.

I am going to wind one as well, to see how it is behave.
I also did not see voltage of secondary, but he is measuring across 1 ohm,
and current = voltage in that case, so it looks promising.
And current was little bit below input current.
Which means, if the currents are almost same, voltages should be also.

Russians use in their circuits LC resonance a lot,
so it is not strange that someone from time to time stumble on right combination.

I see the real potential in that type of transformer in it's ability, to not influence
or disturb primary (source) in any way, which is very important if I play
with resonant circuits and wanna extract energy from them.

Steven Mark used perpendicular winding's, then I saw it in Inogda video and in few more.
He also said that he is not using ordinary type of induction, but different one.
I don't think it is whole solution and there is more to it, but at least,
it is good start, it has some real basis.

Will see.



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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2020, 02:54:11 PM »
   The transformer was novel for sure. I did not see though, what the voltage on the secondary was. Only amperage. Will have to wind up a couple of coils that way and do some runs for best output and frequency response.
His core has gap, it is visible in second video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41ZkWUC-zbQ&t=409s