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Who has higher odds of developing health conditions? (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=176903)
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Thanks for the chart. Yep people are still swallowing the big pharma lies about vaccination as well as a hundred other things.
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there should be a chart
"sick people are worth money , healthy people are worthless"
drs can only live the dr life style if there is a sick population or drs are redundant .
pharma corps rely on drs prescription , no drs signature = no money for the shareholders .
for these giants to survive the gov has to force vacs on the population
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In which serious medical journal was this study published?
Their results are contradicted by studies conducted in most countries, including my own, where we see an increase in various diseases due to a decrease in vaccinations linked to anti-vaccination campaigns.
While we can celebrate the Darwin Awards that will be given to non-vaccinated well aware adults, we cannot do so when it comes to children who are victims of ignorance or misinformation from their parents.
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Well, have a look here, 8 french videos with english subtitles :
https://youtu.be/86mppvuskK8 (https://youtu.be/86mppvuskK8)
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In which serious medical journal was this study published?
Their results are contradicted by studies conducted in most
countries, including my own, where we see an increase in
various diseases due to a decrease in vaccinations linked to
anti-vaccination campaigns.
While we can celebrate the Darwin Awards that will be given
to non-vaccinated well aware adults, we cannot do so when
it comes to children who are victims of ignorance or
misinformation from their parents.
It seems you've been well indoctrinated in institutional talking
points and have joined the effort to squelch truth. Now may
be a good time to open your eyes and "take the Red Pill" if you
have the courage. The Deceived Human Mind is a terrible thing...
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It seems you've been well indoctrinated in institutional talking
points and have joined the effort to squelch truth. Now may
be a good time to open your eyes and "take the Red Pill" if you
have the courage. The Deceived Human Mind is a terrible thing...
"Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
When you have real arguments, not gossip from fake news sites, that vaccination has more disadvantages than advantages, let us know.
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"Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
When you have real arguments, not gossip from fake news sites, that vaccination has more disadvantages than advantages, let us know.
Well try this one out for size. in the 50s some bright spark thought he could eliminate the occasional polio out break as it was noticed
milk maids were thought to be immune to the disease, So thousands of school kids were vaccinated by using live strains of the disease
this resulted in huge numbers of kids infected with the disease and consequently huge numbers of deaths and other kids paralysed and
others having to exist is iron lungs.
As yet i'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that research on rhesus monkeys infected with various forms of cancer were reported used
for developing other vaccinations and you have guessed it, the spread of cancer spores to almost ever inoculated kid on the planet I shouldn't wonder.
So don't bull shit me modern day vaccinations work, we all know big pharma is about making money for it's share holders and as a result can't be ruled out
of synthetically modifying existing diseases and consequently generating it's own parallel problems for every one concerned.
And witch big pharma company might you we working for ?
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And witch big pharma company might you we working for ?
"Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
When you have real arguments that vaccination has more disadvantages than advantages, let us know.
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"Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
When you have real arguments that vaccination has more disadvantages than advantages, let us know.
And yet you provide no proof of your own outside of sources that profit from such vaccinations.
How about proof from those that have lived through the time of the vaccine era?
Take for example the flu shot--ever had one of them?
How hard do the pharmaceutical companies sell that garbage?
Here are some facts about the flu shot.
At my place of employment,my employer offers the workers a free flu shot each year.
Last year 11 out of the 13 employees opted to have the free flu shot.My self,and another work mate decided against it. Over the next two weeks,11 of the 13 were off sick with the flu,and 2 of the 13 never got the flu all year-->can you guess which two never got the flu? Thats right,myself and my work mate that never got the flu shot.
Now,do you know why this might have happened?,well i will tell you.
Once you start taking chemicals to fight off these viruses,you also take away the bodies natural immunity against these very viruses.
So while you might think it is a good thing to have all these immunization shot's,as generations go by,the bodies natural immune system starts to degrade,where there comes a time when humans will have no natural immunity against the smallest of viruses at all.
The end game is,we will all have to rely on these !so called! vaccinations just to survive.
You do also realise that these immunity shots only have a 1 in 3 chance of working,due to the fact that no one knows for sure as to which strain of said virus might turn up next.
You also have to wonder how the kids of 100 years ago managed to survive with so very few vaccines against all these new viruses that keep turning up out of the blue ;)
Then there is this classic
Parents who have there children vaccinated,dont want un-vaccinated children to attend there kids school.
I ask--why?. If your child is vaccinated against such viruses,then what is the problem with them being around un-vaccinated children? This is how brain dead these people are,and how forced vaccination is being implemented.
Yes,that is how it is all panning out now--forced to pump your children full of chemicals,without even knowing what those chemicals are,nor what long term effect they will have in generations to come.
It is appalling to see just how many parents are happy to have there children injected with all these chemicals and viruses,just because they are told that this is best for there children--normally by some other parent that also has no idea as to what was just injected into there children.
Are you(F6FLT) one of these people that believe that man can send man to the moon,or land robots on mars,build nuclear weapons that can destroy our planet, but cant cure the simple cold?. ::)
Brad
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I had my second child in march of this year, and decided with my wife that we wanted to at least wait with vaccinations.
This ones development is amazing. She is 8 months old, and already walking since two weeks back. Our first daughter walked around 12 months old.
She is about 1 years old if you follow the development charts.
I cant help to Think that the lack of vaccines in her system makes her do things when babies normally do things.
Ps. I have to say that i am not anti vaccines 100%, as i dont have made the necessary research on it to be able to say that i am for or against vaccines.
I was ny wife that absolutely didnt want to do it, and now i am seeing the benefits.
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vaccinations weaken immunity and reduce the body’s resistance to new infections...
But without a vaccine there is a risk of dying from tetanus and pneumococcal infection.
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Vaccination can be inconvenient for some people, or sometimes there are accidents, or even wrongdoing by the pharmaceutical industry, so it is proof that vaccination should be avoided!
This poor "reasoning" that we see in some previous posts, a sophism called faulty generalization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulty_generalization), masks that immunization currently prevents between 2–3 million deaths every year.
The worst argument I've read is that an unvaccinated child seems to be behaving better than vaccinated children, from the point of view of.... his parents! Hilarious. Perhaps it will be less hilarious for parents if their child has a serious health problem at some point, and they will understand that their stupidity is the cause.
I see a lot of misinformation about physics, but when it comes to vaccination and health, I think it's criminal.
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The fisrt of nine videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86mppvuskK8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86mppvuskK8)
This French guy said the truth about vaccination.
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Vaccination can be inconvenient for some people, or sometimes there are accidents, or even wrongdoing by the pharmaceutical industry, so it is proof that vaccination should be avoided!
This poor "reasoning" that we see in some previous posts, a sophism called faulty generalization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulty_generalization), masks that immunization currently prevents between 2–3 million deaths every year.
The worst argument I've read is that an unvaccinated child seems to be behaving better than vaccinated children, from the point of view of.... his parents! Hilarious. Perhaps it will be less hilarious for parents if their child has a serious health problem at some point, and they will understand that their stupidity is the cause.
I see a lot of misinformation about physics, but when it comes to vaccination and health, I think it's criminal.
Yeah you don't RTFL, like dementia at an early age, learning difficulties from the MERCURY and FORMALDEHYDE
and a live dose of someone else's Flue virus, some people just don't RTFL, Oh and it appears if you're over 65 Big Farmer don't want
to give you the same dose as everyone else it appears they want you to have a mega dose so you get a wapping 4 times dose !! is it just to
make sure big pharma can pump up the dose so you can benefit from what you missed out on as a kid AUTISM IN RETIREMENT.
iF YOU HAVE HAD THE FLUE JAB PERHAPS YOU SHOULDNT BE ADVISING OTHERS AS THE MERCURY AND FORMALDEHYDE
AND FLORIDE (ALUMINIUM) IN THE WATER SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TAKEN IT'S TOLL.
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I did a little research on this as most I assume. No one can tell you get a vac or not as you never really know what will happen. They could save a kids life,,they could harm a kid, and theirs no guarantee either way that whatever the vac is for will prevent it as in a 100% guarantee. But Ive read many a stories on such, some say they save lives, others say they harmed their kid. Only factual stuff I can gather from all I read is either way vac or no vac, its not a guarantee cure so to speak. Some get vacs for whatever and it may prevent them from getting something, others get vacs and still get that something. Maybe its a roll of the dice really. Who knows, but if those stories are true that their kids were harmed over vacs I feel for them no doubt. I guess its really hard to prove if A happens that it then caused B, as in kid got vac then kid got harmed from it. And the same I guess can be said in reverse, there is no way to guarantee that getting vac A will prevent something we call B. Tricky stuff there I think to say the least.
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According to me some vaccines are not necessarily and they should give us a choice which vaccines to apply and which not. Now there is Measles disease spree in my country because of this non vaccinated children. For me this is very stupid not to vaccinate against dangerous diseases you are risking not only your child's life but the others too. Hepatitis b vaccine is mandatory and why you should not vaccinate? There is no cure for it and it will ruin your liver.
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The fisrt of nine videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86mppvuskK8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86mppvuskK8)
This French guy said the truth about vaccination.
The "truth" ::) ;D L'avis de Mme Michu sur la question a la même pertinence.
This video has been debunked. In brief, it's an unscientific opinion based on biased interpretation of facts and partial position.
See here:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/les-vaxxeuses/régénère-acte-1-le-pétard-mouillé/704511469900830/ (https://www.facebook.com/notes/les-vaxxeuses/régénère-acte-1-le-pétard-mouillé/704511469900830/)
It's good to go straight to scientific studies, which don't say at all what this guy says they say!
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A most informative presentation. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h66beBrEpk)
More here.
(http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=184825)
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Well, maybe I can pull a few heart strings...
They do the same thing to your pets. And your pets suffer and die prematurely because of your actions. You do it because you have to right? Your pet has to be legal right? Has to have all its shots?
Like children, your pets rely on you to do things in their best interest.
So take ownership of that responsibility and use a little discernment. The excuse, "The devil made me do it!" isn't going to fly.
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Well, maybe I can pull a few heart strings...
They do the same thing to your pets. And your pets suffer and die prematurely because of your actions. You do it because you have to right? Your pet has to be legal right? Has to have all its shots?
Like children, your pets rely on you to do things in their best interest.
So take ownership of that responsibility and use a little discernment. The excuse, "The devil made me do it!" isn't going to fly.
Presuming there are still hearts beating that can recognize they are enjoying "the privilege of existence" that came from "the maker of rules" I'll hope those strings are pulled.
"They" meaning those that choose to ignore the reality of being natural individuals, (men & women) with full natural rights that can be exercised as needed to fend off others who have surrendered to the legal fiction of being "persons" created by statute and proper subjects of the juristic scam foisted upon all comers to this legalistic realm. Yes they do, and "they" get everyone they can to volunteer into it by deception.
Yes pets and children suffer because of their caregivers/parents actions made in ignorance of where rights come from. Rights come from the creator. In the natural world rights come from God almighty. In the "legal world" rights come from "The STATE OF _ _ _ _ _ " which is another legal fiction. - So it really does make a huge difference in what each individual believes and takes action in as a proper subject THEREOF.
Creatures are proper subjects of their creator. If you claim to be a "creature" of the STATE it is your "creator" and owner and as such it will exercise its DOMINION over you, and all you will ever have, children and pets included.
Children are the individual fruit of a living man and woman in nature, they are not creatures of any "STATE" unless their parents act of their own freewill to individually give up their God given natural rights in exchange for "STATE" granted privileges of becoming "legal persons" and thereby proper "subjects" of statutes, codes, certificates, licenses, etc ....
Pets are also individuals found IN NATURE, and are not creatures of any "STATE": unless their caregiver acts to make them "legal" ....
IN REALITY: No individual man, woman, or child has any right to inject anything into any other individual living thing without the consent of the living thing. PERIOD
Since individuals have no such right, no group of people pretending to be ACTORS OF THE STATE OF _ _ _ _ _ _ can claim to have the right to inject others with anything against the will of another. But sadly the masses of people have been "given over" to their "strong delusions" from which many will perish by their ignorance. ("Ignorance is no excuse in Law.")
So: NO children and pets don't have to be legal. Because they are already natural and that is the reality under which they were created.
NO: no one has to participate in mass delusion or criminal acts, and no one can force anyone else to do so or believe and act a certain way.
BUT: The choice is up to the individual, fight for what is your right, or go along to get along and be one of the "legal" herd.
Yes I agree: parents as men and women need to "take ownership of that responsibility and use a little discernment".
Just know that it is battle of WILLS, and not an easy path to walk, but in the end: it has its rewards. Saying sorry after the fact isn't going to fly either. https://youtu.be/aBQalkIeE7s?t=130
To each their own, they own their ACTS and CHOICES individually.
BTW: SeaMonkey that is a great video, and shows a strong woman risking her career/reputation.
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unintentional repost - now deleted.
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"Her thesis was entitled Immunologic Memory to Polysaccharide Antigens. Ironically, her research showed how vaccines work. Yes, she provided us with strong evidence on the effectiveness of vaccines."
"Her research consists of precisely eight published articles. Two of them, very small clinical trials, examined amino acid relationships to autism spectrum disorder. Neither of these two articles even mention vaccines"
"In that one paper [where she is the first author], she concluded that “As the generation and regulation of immunologic memory are central to vaccination, our findings help explain the mode of action of the few existing polysaccharide vaccines and provide a rationale for a wider application of polysaccharide-based strategies in vaccination.” Yes, that was a pro-vaccine paper."
"There is nothing in her background that indicates she has compiled robust and scientifically important evidence about vaccines."
"She was interviewed for an antivaccine article in the lunatic website, whale.to, an anti-semitic, hate-filled, conspiracy-laden website run by a pig farmer. It’s really hard to get beyond this point."
"She thinks homeopathy works."
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https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/appeal-to-false-authority-who-is-tetyana-obukhanych/
"She only worked in research labs and has no experience in medical clinics."
"Tetyana buys into all the usual antivax tropes and has not used her formal education to her best advantage. She has cherry picked the science to show what she wants it to show, that vaccines are not perfect. This is a real shame. No, Tetyana, we are not ignoring you. We just know better than to believe your version of science."
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https://vaccinesworkblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/24/how-did-immunologist-tetyana-obukhanych-become-antivax/
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I smell a troll, what a stench.
F6FLT, are you family of our famous and distinguished board certified Sir Trollalot?
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Here is an interview between Jon Rappoport and a retired vaccine researcher-
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2019/03/13/interview-with-a-retired-vaccine-researcher/
Pm
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I smell a troll, what a stench.
F6FLT, are you family of our famous and distinguished board certified Sir Trollalot?
Your defamatory words are terribly stupid.
A few days ago, a woman died in France of measles, she was not vaccinated.
Another family of French people, suffering from measles, again because they were not vaccinated, was quarantined in Costa Rica where they were on holiday, and where there had been no cases of measles for years. These people have put others in danger.
The president of the Friuli Venezia Giulia region, Italy, who is against vaccination, is in hospital: he has caught chickenpox. ;D
Anti-vaccination campaigns are increasingly showing their effects.
Those who die in this way will receive Darwin Awards.
When I read Tink, wouldn't I read a guy paid to promote the killing of people?
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Your defamatory words are terribly stupid.
A few days ago, a woman died in France of measles, she was not vaccinated.
Another family of French people, suffering from measles, again because they were not vaccinated, was quarantined in Costa Rica where they were on holiday, and where there had been no cases of measles for years. .
The president of the Friuli Venezia Giulia region, Italy, who is against vaccination, is in hospital: he has caught chickenpox. ;D
Anti-vaccination campaigns are increasingly showing their effects.
Those who die in this way will receive Darwin Awards.
When I read Tink, wouldn't I read a guy paid to promote the killing of people?
Wow,im baffled as to how the human race managed to survive for thousands of years before vaccines came out. Im even at a loss as to how i survived childhood without the flu shot,being that i spent so much time out in the rain,during the cold winter month's,playing rivers and creeks.
These people have put others in danger
If the !others! have been vaccinated against such viruses,how exactly are they in danger?.
But hey,why let the human immune system build up to fight off such viruses(as it has done for thousands of years),when you can just go and get an injection of a chemical cocktail that 99.9% of people have no idea as to what chemicals they just got injected with,nor what the long term effects will be.
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Good on ya Tinman!
Let them that want to be brain dead get vaccinated and they can leave the rest of us alone.
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Wow,im baffled as to how the human race managed to survive for thousands of years before vaccines came out...
Very easily: at the cost of at least one in two infants who die at an early age, and at the cost of epidemics that killed millions of people.
As late as 1918, the Spanish flu killed between 50 and 100 million people, more than the Black Plague.
With "survive" you actually used the correct term. If you hope to survive rather than want to live, refusing vaccination is the method. It's not my idea of progress.
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Very easily: at the cost of at least one in two infants who die at an early age, and at the cost of epidemics that killed millions of people.
As late as 1918, the Spanish flu killed between 50 and 100 million people, more than the Black Plague.
With "survive" you actually used the correct term. If you hope to survive rather than want to live, refusing vaccination is the method. It's not my idea of progress.
It's 2019, now 101 years later and despite all the miracles of modern medicine (and there have been miraculous advances) doctors remain unable to cure any disease although they can and do treat the symptoms of a wide variety. The rest they cut out or send you off for expensive treatments only to die anyways; after taking what money you had. They are "Practicing" medicine with no guarantees, period.
There still is no cure for the common cold, nor a vaccine to prevent it. - Since that is a fact: what makes you think that your WANT to live, even with taking every vaccine ever produced is going to be enough to be able to overcome the actual NATURE and CAUSE of any particular disease?
Your physical body has all the right things it needs to heal itself - or it does not. That is the way it is, like it or not.
The medical community OF this world does not make money off healthy people. There is no incentive to have a healthy herd of "human beings".
Think for yourself because when you do you will realize there is no one on Earth who cares as much about you and your life as you do. Honest.
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It's 2019, now 101 years later and despite all the miracles of modern medicine (and there have been miraculous advances) doctors remain unable to cure any diseases...
I wonder what would make you think that medicine should cure everything today!
Progress is rapid at the beginning of a new discipline because we start from zero. This was the case at the beginning of medicine and at the beginning of physics. Then the simplest having been understood, things get complicated.
Judging on what does not exist, and could exist especially in your illusions, makes no sense, nor to attribute bad motive to actors.
Your physical body has all the right things it needs to heal itself
That's not true. What you're saying is based on ignorance. The living is in competition. The microbes, the viruses are in competition with us. And the natural radioactivity can breaks DNA. To believe that man should "naturally" always be the victor is scientifically unfounded. What emerges from Nature through our knowledge of evolution is that it is the survival of the species that prevails, not that of the individual. So yes, on the scale of the human species, even if half of the people die before 4 years old and the others before 40 as was the case until the 18th century, the species survives however.
Anti-vaxes want to considerably increase their risk of death. I'm not against it. It is the law of nature, the least adapted, even intellectually, are the victims of themselves. The world can only be better for it. But it still hurts me to know that children will die because of their parents' ignorance and stupidity.
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I have never put that garbage in my body after i left the Military and have been unbelievably healthy my whole life. i refuse to put flu shot garbage in my body as well as all other shots. the CEO of Merck Incorporated spilled his guts on his death bed just how disgusting and ruthless Big Pharma's actually are and will stoop to the lowest level all for a buck. shots are nasty chemical and Viral compounds and they think we are their dumping grounds for PROFIT.
what a fool you are thinking corporate world is not in depopulation mode as we are being systematically chemically poisoned on a daily basis. you definitely are working for Big Pharma.
on another note i have a really stupid neighbor that thinks the way you do and her kids are the most sickly scrawny kids i have ever seen and has to many allergies to list.
i suppose you think Fluoride is good for you when the study was done at John Hopkins University by the leading toxicologist which has sense passed away proved Fluoride is the 5th most toxic substance on earth and has no business in our bodies other than a form of toxic waste disposal without the high price.
i can not believe the garbage that flows from people's mouths.
Murder with no jail sentence.
Regards,
Marathonman