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Author Topic: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children  (Read 3578 times)

Offline stevensrd1

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2019, 10:02:05 PM »
I did a little research on this as most I assume. No one can tell you get a vac or not as you never really know what will happen. They could save a kids life,,they could harm a kid, and theirs no guarantee either way that whatever the vac is for will prevent it as in a 100% guarantee. But Ive read many a stories on such, some say they save lives, others say they harmed their kid. Only factual stuff I can gather from all I read is either way vac or no vac, its not a guarantee cure so to speak. Some get vacs for whatever and it may prevent them from getting something, others get vacs and still get that something. Maybe its a roll of the dice really. Who knows, but if those stories are true that their kids were harmed over vacs I feel for them no doubt. I guess its really hard to prove if A happens that it then caused B, as in kid got vac then kid got harmed from it. And the same I guess can be said in reverse, there is no way to guarantee that getting vac A will prevent something we call B. Tricky stuff there I think to say the least.

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Offline pulp

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2019, 08:33:41 AM »
According to me some vaccines are not necessarily and they should give us a choice which vaccines to apply and which not. Now there is Measles disease spree in my country because of this non vaccinated children. For me this is very stupid not to vaccinate against dangerous diseases you are risking not only your child's life but the others too. Hepatitis b vaccine is mandatory and why you should not vaccinate? There is no cure for it and it will ruin your liver.

Offline F6FLT

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2019, 03:05:52 PM »
The fisrt of nine videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86mppvuskK8

This French guy said the truth about vaccination.
The "truth"  ::)  ;D   L'avis de Mme Michu sur la question a la même pertinence.

This video has been debunked. In brief, it's an unscientific opinion based on biased interpretation of facts and partial position.
See here:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/les-vaxxeuses/régénère-acte-1-le-pétard-mouillé/704511469900830/

It's good to go straight to scientific studies, which don't say at all what this guy says they say!



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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
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Offline SeaMonkey

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2019, 01:08:03 AM »

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Offline Dog-One

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2019, 07:12:26 AM »
Well, maybe I can pull a few heart strings...

They do the same thing to your pets.  And your pets suffer and die prematurely because of your actions.  You do it because you have to right?  Your pet has to be legal right?  Has to have all its shots?

Like children, your pets rely on you to do things in their best interest.

So take ownership of that responsibility and use a little discernment.  The excuse, "The devil made me do it!" isn't going to fly.

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
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Offline Temporal Visitor

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2019, 02:06:12 PM »
Well, maybe I can pull a few heart strings...

They do the same thing to your pets.  And your pets suffer and die prematurely because of your actions.  You do it because you have to right?  Your pet has to be legal right?  Has to have all its shots?

Like children, your pets rely on you to do things in their best interest.

So take ownership of that responsibility and use a little discernment.  The excuse, "The devil made me do it!" isn't going to fly.

Presuming there are still hearts beating that can recognize they are enjoying "the privilege of existence" that came from "the maker of rules" I'll hope those strings are pulled.

"They" meaning those that choose to ignore the reality of being natural individuals, (men & women) with full natural rights that can be exercised as needed to fend off others who have surrendered to the legal fiction of being "persons" created by statute and proper subjects of the juristic scam foisted upon all comers to this legalistic realm.  Yes they do, and "they" get everyone they can to volunteer into it by deception.

Yes pets and children suffer because of their caregivers/parents actions made in ignorance of where rights come from. Rights come from the creator. In the natural world rights come from God almighty. In the "legal world" rights come from "The STATE OF _ _ _ _ _ " which is another legal fiction. - So it really does make a huge difference in what each individual believes and takes action in as a proper subject THEREOF.
Creatures are proper subjects of their creator. If you claim to be a "creature" of the STATE it is your "creator" and owner and as such it will exercise its DOMINION over you, and all you will ever have, children and pets included.

Children are the individual fruit of a living man and woman in nature, they are not creatures of any "STATE" unless their parents act of their own freewill to individually give up their God given natural rights in exchange for "STATE" granted privileges of becoming "legal persons" and thereby proper "subjects" of statutes, codes, certificates, licenses, etc ....

Pets are also individuals found IN NATURE, and are not creatures of any "STATE": unless their caregiver acts to make them "legal" ....

IN REALITY: No individual man, woman, or child has any right to inject anything into any other individual living thing without the consent of the living thing. PERIOD

Since individuals have no such right, no group of people pretending to be ACTORS OF THE STATE OF  _ _ _ _ _ _  can claim to have the right to inject others with anything against the will of another. But sadly the masses of people have been "given over" to their "strong delusions" from which many will perish by their ignorance. ("Ignorance is no excuse in Law.")

So: NO children and pets don't have to be legal. Because they are already natural and that is the reality under which they were created.

NO: no one has to participate in mass delusion or criminal acts, and no one can force anyone else to do so or believe and act a certain way.
BUT: The choice is up to the individual, fight for what is your right, or go along to get along and be one of the "legal" herd.

Yes I agree: parents as men and women need to "take ownership of that responsibility and use a little discernment".

Just know that it is battle of WILLS, and not an easy path to walk, but in the end: it has its rewards. Saying sorry after the fact isn't going to fly either. https://youtu.be/aBQalkIeE7s?t=130

To each their own, they own their ACTS and CHOICES individually.

BTW: SeaMonkey that is a great video, and shows a strong woman risking her career/reputation.

Offline Temporal Visitor

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2019, 03:53:33 PM »
unintentional repost - now deleted.

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Offline F6FLT

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2019, 05:59:57 PM »
"Her thesis was entitled Immunologic Memory to Polysaccharide Antigens. Ironically, her research showed how vaccines work. Yes, she provided us with strong evidence on the effectiveness of vaccines."

"Her research consists of precisely eight published articles. Two of them, very small clinical trials, examined amino acid relationships to autism spectrum disorder. Neither of these two articles even mention vaccines"

"In that one paper [where she is the first author], she concluded that “As the generation and regulation of immunologic memory are central to vaccination, our findings help explain the mode of action of the few existing polysaccharide vaccines and provide a rationale for a wider application of polysaccharide-based strategies in vaccination.” Yes, that was a pro-vaccine paper."

"There is nothing in her background that indicates she has compiled robust and scientifically important evidence about vaccines."

"She was interviewed for an antivaccine article in the lunatic website, whale.to, an anti-semitic, hate-filled, conspiracy-laden website run by a pig farmer. It’s really hard to get beyond this point."

"She thinks homeopathy works."
...
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/appeal-to-false-authority-who-is-tetyana-obukhanych/

"She only worked in research labs and has no experience in medical clinics."

"Tetyana buys into all the usual antivax tropes and has not used her formal education to her best advantage. She has cherry picked the science to show what she wants it to show, that vaccines are not perfect. This is a real shame. No, Tetyana, we are not ignoring you. We just know better than to believe your version of science."
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https://vaccinesworkblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/24/how-did-immunologist-tetyana-obukhanych-become-antivax/





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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2019, 10:05:57 PM »
I smell a troll, what a stench.
F6FLT, are you family of our famous and distinguished board certified Sir Trollalot?

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2019, 10:53:00 PM »
Here is an interview between Jon Rappoport and a retired vaccine researcher-

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2019/03/13/interview-with-a-retired-vaccine-researcher/

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Offline F6FLT

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2019, 09:56:12 AM »
I smell a troll, what a stench.
F6FLT, are you family of our famous and distinguished board certified Sir Trollalot?

Your defamatory words are terribly stupid.

A few days ago, a woman died in France of measles, she was not vaccinated.
Another family of French people, suffering from measles, again because they were not vaccinated, was quarantined in Costa Rica where they were on holiday, and where there had been no cases of measles for years. These people have put others in danger.
The president of the Friuli Venezia Giulia region, Italy, who is against vaccination, is in hospital: he has caught chickenpox.    ;D
Anti-vaccination campaigns are increasingly showing their effects.

Those who die in this way will receive Darwin Awards.

When I read Tink, wouldn't I read a guy paid to promote the killing of people?

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Offline tinman

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2019, 03:29:28 PM »
Your defamatory words are terribly stupid.

A few days ago, a woman died in France of measles, she was not vaccinated.
Another family of French people, suffering from measles, again because they were not vaccinated, was quarantined in Costa Rica where they were on holiday, and where there had been no cases of measles for years. .
The president of the Friuli Venezia Giulia region, Italy, who is against vaccination, is in hospital: he has caught chickenpox.    ;D
Anti-vaccination campaigns are increasingly showing their effects.

Those who die in this way will receive Darwin Awards.

When I read Tink, wouldn't I read a guy paid to promote the killing of people?

Wow,im baffled as to how the human race managed to survive for thousands of years before vaccines came out. Im even at a loss as to how i survived childhood without the flu shot,being that i spent so much time out in the rain,during the cold winter month's,playing rivers and creeks.

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These people have put others in danger

If the !others! have been vaccinated against such viruses,how exactly are they in danger?.

But hey,why let the human immune system build up to fight off such viruses(as it has done for thousands of years),when you can just go and get an injection of a chemical cocktail that 99.9% of people have no idea as to what chemicals they just got injected with,nor what the long term effects will be.

Offline iflewmyown

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2019, 10:29:02 PM »
Good on ya Tinman!
Let them that want to be brain dead get vaccinated and they can leave the rest of us alone.

Offline F6FLT

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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2019, 11:19:48 AM »
Wow,im baffled as to how the human race managed to survive for thousands of years before vaccines came out...

Very easily: at the cost of at least one in two infants who die at an early age, and at the cost of epidemics that killed millions of people.

As late as 1918, the Spanish flu killed between 50 and 100 million people, more than the Black Plague.

With "survive" you actually used the correct term. If you hope to survive rather than want to live, refusing vaccination is the method. It's not my idea of progress.


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Re: Finally! A health study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2019, 12:19:28 PM »
Very easily: at the cost of at least one in two infants who die at an early age, and at the cost of epidemics that killed millions of people.

As late as 1918, the Spanish flu killed between 50 and 100 million people, more than the Black Plague.

With "survive" you actually used the correct term. If you hope to survive rather than want to live, refusing vaccination is the method. It's not my idea of progress.

It's 2019, now 101 years later and despite all the miracles of modern medicine (and there have been miraculous advances) doctors remain unable to cure any disease although they can and do treat the symptoms of a wide variety. The rest they cut out or send you off for expensive treatments only to die anyways; after taking what money you had. They are "Practicing" medicine with no guarantees, period.

There still is no cure for the common cold, nor a vaccine to prevent it. - Since that is a fact: what makes you think that your WANT to live, even with taking every vaccine ever produced is going to be enough to be able to overcome the actual NATURE and CAUSE of any particular disease?

Your physical body has all the right things it needs to heal itself - or it does not. That is the way it is, like it or not.

The medical community OF this world does not make money off healthy people. There is no incentive to have a healthy herd of "human beings".

Think for yourself because when you do you will realize there is no one on Earth who cares as much about you and your life as you do. Honest.

   

 

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