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Author Topic: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa  (Read 8876 times)

Offline SkyWatcher123

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Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« on: August 11, 2018, 07:18:43 AM »
Hi all, have been wanting to experiment more with mechanical devices, like I used to in the past.

I think the magnets rotating can be of benefit.
So, I am going to work with the ideas shared by Patrick Kelly, based on the anonymous inventor from South Africa.
What i have so far, is what I have on hand, will need to wind more coils though.
Starting out with the 12 strand, 24awg. magnet wire coil, not twisted with ferrite tube core.
Rotor has 1" diameter by 1/8" thick magnet on each end, total of 4 neo magnets.I am using a 400 size rc brushless outboard motor as the bearing and support structure for the rotor.
I removed the small neo magnets from the outboard casing of the motor, using a lighter to soften the glue holding the magnets, so now the rotor can spin freely.
Here is picture of what I have built so far, need to wire up the bedini type circuit for motor pulse action and other components.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6NA5N6ioU
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Rotary.pdf
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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2018, 10:37:03 PM »
Hi all, I had to modify the setup a bit, because the motor i was using for the rotor support structure and bearing, the bearings were bad.
It is now smooth and quiet and runs well.Using a 3 cell parallel pack of lithium ion cells for 4 volts input.


Have another identical battery pack as the charge battery.Using the basic circuit diagram shown in the pdf.

Still testing with just the 12 strand coil and ferrite core, will be adding more separate, single strand coils later, will have 4 total.peace love light  :) 

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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2018, 06:35:05 PM »
Hi all, the testing is looking very interesting so far.
I switched to 12 volt tractor batteries for testing and the results so far are looking promising.
The other smaller, longer coil on the right in the setup, is not being used at the moment, it is 7 strand 24awg. coil, though it does help balance out the rotor from vibrations.
So far, the input side is actually gaining a little voltage after every test run and the charge side charges very well.
The batteries are meant to swap positions.Questions or comments welcome, shall continue testing.peace love light :)
« Last Edit: August 15, 2018, 11:06:04 PM by SkyWatcher123 »

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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2018, 06:35:05 PM »
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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2018, 07:54:58 PM »
You can use old hard drive. It has excellent bearings, though I don't know how to safely glue magnets to the hdd plate

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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2018, 10:57:19 PM »
I registered on the site to follow up on your work. I've been struggling with energizers for some time but so far no really satisfying results. I have a certain difficulty in this project that when other collector coils are placed the rotor slows down a lot.

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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2018, 11:16:45 PM »
Hi forest, I've never used a hard drive bearing, though I guess the inventor is using that in one of the device versions.


The rc brushless motor with magnets removed, is working just fine with this type and size of rotor.

Are you planning on testing this setup forest, or have built something similar.

peace love light :) 

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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2018, 07:49:19 AM »
Hi aldex, thanks for the reply, I didn't realize you posted.
I'm not sure what setup you are using, are you using this circuit I posted.


Maybe if you share details of what you have, we can figure out what is happening in your setup.

As far as rpm, mine starts out slower after swapping, then picks up to a good speed as the charge battery goes above 13 volts.

As for this circuit, the inventor said specifically, it is better to have lower rpm's, as it is more efficient that way.

I've been running this setup for at least 10 hours so far, swapped 4 times and the input side is always equal or a little above the original start resting voltage, after resting a little.

The charge side is well above the voltage of whichever battery is currently on the charge side, taken note of before starting these tests.

The average input power being used is 3.2 watts.

I have not tried placing a 12 volt load yet where the inventor suggests, still observing the behavior of this setup and it seems promising.

If you analyze this circuit, it can be seen, that power is returned to the input battery by generator action using the 1n5408 diode across collector and emitter and that it is configured as a typical boost converter for the charging side.

I also think generator action may be happening through the flyback diodes, when the rotor approaches, it couples with the input battery voltage and the induced coil voltage and gives even more charging to charge side.
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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2018, 02:32:32 PM »
Hi, I'm currently running some tests with a 5-wire coil in tests. at first I used some of 3 wires being 2 awg23 and 1 awg26. which I realized that the anergy of the return of the wrist actually returns in the 2 wires but they are the same energy. if I take the 3 filament and put to recharge the primary battery I verified that it really returns a little charge to the primary battery and putting 4 batteries in the output adding the 48v as demonstrated in one of the schemes of this project I saw that the 4 receive also a little energy. so that the first one that moves the circuit can not recharge the other 4. But that was just a test. Now I started to use one with 5 wires being 2 awg 23, 2 awg26 and one I think awg 28. 2 wires equal to the bedini of 850 laps and the other 3 with 1000 laps. what I saw is that the same thing happens with the 3-wire. the energy pulsates at all but the return is the same. I started the tests on Monday and this week put the photos for you to see. the rotor I am using is a wheel of 12 ferrite magnets and I am using the tip3055 transistor. I have other transistors for testing. But I could not put collector coils in any way without the rotor dragging. Let's talk and thank you for sharing your findings.

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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2018, 07:15:42 PM »
Hi aldex, thanks for the reply and information, I'm glad to talk with you.

There is nothing wrong with the rotor dragging, inventor makes a point of that, this is not a speed up under load device.
And I see no reason to put meters everywhere, trying to check power.


All I'm doing at the moment, is observing the wheel rotor doing work, by continuously rotating.


Then when the input side reaches around 12.40 volts, I let batteries rest an hour at least, then check voltages and the input side voltage is always equal to or a little greater than when I started these tests, and the charge side is well above the initial rest voltages.

The fact the battery voltages are not reducing, is very interesting.
Keep in mind, I'm using just the one 12 strand coil, with a ferrite tube core, so the core causes no drag.
Whereas, an iron core will cause unwanted drag.
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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2018, 07:44:12 PM »
Hi

I've done alot of runs with batteries, one thing you should be weary of is, although a battery can show voltage gain,it's capacity to deliver gets weaker the longer it runs.
Eventually it goes dead.
Just what I've seen so far.
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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2018, 08:03:52 PM »
This experiment is so basic, and known, that I cannot imagine it will work as an over unity machine. It is essentially spinning magnets and coils. What can possibly make this device different from a normal generator?


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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2018, 10:30:37 PM »
Hi all, I'm still testing this setup variant, it is not exactly the same as the south african setup.

Hi shylo, thanks for the reply, I'm aware of what you say and have run many similar devices as well.


What i can say so far, this is performing different. The voltage keeps increasing on the charging side for every swap cycle and I'm draining the input side to the same level every time, specifically to 12.35 volts and the run time is also increasing in every cycle phase.

Hi low-q, thank you for your reply, I'm also aware this type of setup is common, look at the circuit drawing I posted, it's not exactly the same as most I've seen or tried.

Also, what can possibly make this different you say, well I always think about a gasoline engine car, if the timing is off, that car is barely moving.


Maybe it's similar to that, if things are not setup within a certain window of design, most will not see anything out of the normal.


Not that I'm saying this is operating out of the norm, though it is looking interesting and I'm just sharing my observations thus far, not making claims.
peace love light :)

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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2018, 03:08:26 AM »
Hi, keep testing and posting your experiences. Years ago I tried to replicate some energizers and you are making me continue testing. There is no impossibility until we find the end of the possible. which I particularly do not believe they have found
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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2018, 05:43:06 PM »
Hi aldex, thanks for the positive reply.

I will indeed continue testing, as the results are still encouraging.

I am now officially keeping track of data, since the results continue to be positive.

Total run time has been around 15 hours at around 3.2 watts input.

Of the two 12 volt tractor batteries, one started with 12.56 volts and the other started with 12.55 volts before starting this testing.

The overnight rest voltage on the most recent input side batteries is 12.57 volts.

The overnight rest voltage on the most recent charge side battery is 12.70 volts.

At around 48 watt hours used so far, one of these batteries should have dropped in voltage by now, but that is not what is being observed.

Each of these 235 cold cranking amps tractor batteries has around 12-13 amp hours capacity.

Shall continue testing and documenting the results.

peace love light :)

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Re: Self-Powered Generator - Inventor From South Africa
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2018, 11:40:07 AM »
Skywatcher

You show 11 strands paralleled, couldn't you just use a single strand of a heavier guage?
Not trying to discourage.
Your work and sharing is greatly appreciated.
Thanks  artv

 

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