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Author Topic: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?  (Read 904 times)

Offline postingsite

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What actually is the most efficient way to pulse an iron-core, which is normally pulsed by the coil in which the core is placed .

   - Could a more efficient method to pulse an iron-core,  be to run a pulse of current through it,  the same( amount ) of pulsed current that was going to be run through the coil in which the core was normally placed  ?

   -  You would still require a coil ( maybe with a different number of windings or thickness ) around the core, to collect any energy gain,  unless,  there is some other method to collect that energy gain  ?
         
    -  Could an alternative method to collect energy gain from an  iron-core,  be to attach two wires to it,  and then pulse the core via some method which does not use those two wires ( maybe by attaching a third and fourth wire to the core in order to pulse it )   ?

    -  Would this alternative method of pulsing an iron-core,  result in more surplus output from the  iron-core  ?

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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2018, 05:48:01 AM »
       
    -  Could an alternative method to collect energy gain from an  iron-core,  be to attach two wires to it,  and then pulse the core via some method which does not use those two wires ( maybe by attaching a third and fourth wire to the core in order to pulse it )   ?

   Four wires running to and from the iron-core,  probably not logical,  since any surplus output from the iron-core would also be collected in the output wire of the first pair of wires used to pulse the iron-core .

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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2018, 08:38:16 AM »
It looks like you have re-invented the transformer. Perhaps you could patent it.

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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2018, 11:02:29 PM »
Any company that thinks I invented this idea ( and that I can prove it ) would already have contacted me, everyone knows who I am  etc 
   (  I already contacted most of the companies over 2 years ago,  regarding  non-overunity ( and yet suppressed fields of design ) designs,  but I already knew I would have no success
   
I think there may be people on this site who do make money from tech on here,  selling  self-powered-motor-generators or even solid-state-self-powered-generators,  magnet-motors just can not compare with these
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I'm really curious if,   pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it,  and the alternative methods of collecting any energy gain,  that I posted on this thread,  if they actually work or not .

You'd think maybe not,  since apparently electricity actually only flows across the surface of conductors including metals,  and also,  maybe you'd really have to be on the outside of an iron-core to collect the most of the amplified  magnetic-field  .

However,  what if,  in metals,  there is always electricity flowing in all random directions,  and when you pass a current through it,  you make the big mass of an  iron-cores  electrical activity only flow in one direction,  the result being an energy gain .
   Or maybe some other type of cascading effect,  the result being an energy gain


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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2018, 11:45:42 PM »
Some overunity,  or power-amplification  ideas .

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  1 -  Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?

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  2 -  What if you keep a piece of quartz permanently bent, and then run direct-current through it,  for some reason I think this configuration may amplify the current .
         (  I also remembered,  some time ago I found a thread on some website,  about someone that seemed to have discovered this configuration and was very surprised at the  current-amplification it produced,  and all the responses on that page said he must have made some sort of mistake, and that it was not possible. 
             Since I did not note the website etc,  I was not able to locate that thread again .

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  3 -  What about rolling coated( insulate-coating ) thin-copper-sheet, or other metal sheet,  into a coil,   so with all that increased surface area, for inductance,  could it function as a power amplifier ?

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    4 -   Below, I have attached a diagram of a very simple capacitor-and-coils-with-cores-generator  design.
        NOTE - Not all of the wiring in that diagram is completed,  I don't know how to complete it,  I have no experience in this field,  etc .

         -  It relies on using very-small-capacitors,  since for some reason I think that the smaller capacitors are,  then the more efficient they are ( maybe because bigger objects are more dense, and therefore larger capacitors lose more energy to the environment in the electromagnetic-pulse they generate .
         -  It also relies on power amplification through coils-with-cores,  obviously requiring correct different windings on the output-coil ( number of windings, thickness of wire,  spacing between windings )
         -  It also relies on the fact( I assume ) that even though all the capacitors will be identical,  there will still be a slight difference in the time each one needs to charge up,   so that capacitors will always ( usually ) be discharging at different points in time,   so I think that is why this device would keep on running as a  self-powered-device.

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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2018, 06:50:05 PM »
Po you have very good thouthts been there saw things but its limited by the money you have and support. IT ends always the same

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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2018, 11:56:39 PM »
I am wondering if you have considered putting the iron on the outside of the coil as Walter Russel has stated many times that man winds his coils wrong. i think Bob teal used this technique in his magnetic motors and was the reason they were so powerful.
only tests will prove otherwise.
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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2018, 12:57:55 AM »
How do you bend quarts it's like glass, let alone mount it in iron ?

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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2018, 08:57:49 PM »
And your contribution has WHAT ? to do with his project. hes talking about coils on a core so what planet are you on AlienGrey.
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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2018, 08:57:49 PM »
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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2018, 07:05:01 AM »
My previous post had 4 suggestions,  of possible simple  power-amplification-methods . 
 - One of them a solid-state-self-powered-generator idea .

Another self-powered-generator idea could be,  a motor( motor-1 ) turning another identical-motor( this one to function as generator ),  and then  add  permanent-magnets to  motor-1  to make it more powerful,  and spin faster .
   When you add  permanent-magnets to a motor, you not only increase it's torque output, you also increase it's speed .

How to get this design running -
  The simplest solution to make this device function would be :
       -  First,  power motor-1 ( which is intended to rotate the generator ) by using an  'external power source'
       -  And then,  when the generator is generating power,   gradually mix the output of the generator with the current of the 'external power source',  and then gradually decrease the  'external power source',  until the device is self-powered

   THE SIMPLEST WAY TO DO THAT
    -  This could be as simple as two variable-rotary-resistors/potentiometers, connected together via two cog wheels,  so that when you increase one, you are also decreasing the other,   their combined output-power going to motor-1 .
   

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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2018, 07:36:25 AM »
I cannot believe that these types of comments continue to be made here

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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2018, 08:31:47 AM »
And your contribution has WHAT ? to do with his project. hes talking about coils on a core so what planet are you on AlienGrey.
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Marathonman
thanks for your 'aggressive' comment Marathon I would have thought my comment was obvious they have obviously removed the comment or amended it, clever dick!
Any way both copper and iron have certain quality's that could be taken advantage of with the way so called electrons travel I won't bother to explain or offer a
practical solution as your obviously slicker know it all than me!

However Tinman and hyiq have already shown how to do this on other treads.!

over and out  ;D


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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2018, 10:08:56 AM »
And your contribution has WHAT ? to do with his project. hes talking about coils on a core so what planet are you on AlienGrey.
Regards,
Marathonman

Well postingsite stated "What if you keep a piece of quartz permanently bent, and then run direct-current through it,  for some reason I think this configuration may amplify the current ."

So AG replied to that.

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Re: Pulsing an iron-core by running electrical-current through it ?
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2018, 10:12:04 AM »
thanks for your 'aggressive' comment Marathon I would have thought my comment was obvious they have obviously removed the comment or amended it, clever dick!
Any way both copper and iron have certain quality's that could be taken advantage of with the way so called electrons travel I won't bother to explain or offer a
practical solution as your obviously slicker know it all than me!

However Tinman and hyiq have already shown how to do this on other treads.!

over and out  ;D

Well few people on this forum have spent too much time near spark gaps. I am not sure if lithium will even work on them... They can go bipolar in a second and go all caps for a week. GOD SEES YOU!!!! They can pull you into an argument that does not even exist.

 

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