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Offline marathonman

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Re: Free Energy is IMPOSSIBLE without this, why everyone fails!
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2018, 11:26:42 PM »
A standard generator would be OU or self sustaining if it wasn't for the cogging effect from the Lenz Law pulling the rotor back into register.

when the system is up and running the primary draw is reduced to just the IR2 losses. part of the secondary is fed back to the system to maintain the field. the amperage to the primaries is still being circulated through the exciting system but not being used by the primaries.

the electricity is the Aether pulled from counter space dimension caused by the polarization of the primaries. the whole free electron in the copper wire is the biggest joke of them all. if you pull electrons from a copper atom then it becomes NOT copper.

generators are Aetheric accumulators pulling in electricity that is basically a pressure system. this is brought on by the polarization of the Aether as magnetism cancels out two dimensions of gravity leaving one dimensional electric flow from counter space into space. when a load is presented to a standard generator the current is increased to the exciters until the output is producing enough for the exciters and the load. that is the pressure in the system is increased until it can maintain the exciters and the load. it takes time for the pressure to build up as in a few seconds. Aether pressure from counter space.

the whole key i think for OU is to preserve the power to the primaries as in recycle the energies and for opposing primaries. if the losses to power the primaries are reduced to just the IR2 losses them you are well on your way to an OU device.

a standard off the shelf transformer conforms to the conservation of energy but the motional electric field does NOT as it is non- conservative therefore if one was to use these principals a device can and will provide the power to it's self and the load once started.

preserve the power used to the primaries not expend it.

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Re: Free Energy is IMPOSSIBLE without this, why everyone fails!
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2018, 11:44:37 PM »
A standard generator would be OU or self sustaining if it wasn't for the cogging effect from the Lenz Law pulling the rotor back into register.

when the system is up and running the primary draw is reduced to just the IR2 losses. part of the secondary is fed back to the system to maintain the field. the amperage to the primaries is still being circulated through the exciting system but not being used by the primaries.

the electricity is the Aether pulled from counter space dimension caused by the polarization of the primaries. the whole free electron in the copper wire is the biggest joke of them all. if you pull electrons from a copper atom then it becomes NOT copper.

generators are Aetheric accumulators pulling in electricity that is basically a pressure system. this is brought on by the polarization of the Aether as magnetism cancels out two dimensions of gravity leaving one dimensional electric flow from counter space into space. when a load is presented to a standard generator the current is increased to the exciters until the output is producing enough for the exciters and the load. that is the pressure in the system is increased until it can maintain the exciters and the load. it takes time for the pressure to build up as in a few seconds. Aether pressure from counter space.

the whole key i think for OU is to preserve the power to the primaries as in recycle the energies and for opposing primaries. if the losses to power the primaries are reduced to just the IR2 losses them you are well on your way to an OU device.

a standard off the shelf transformer conforms to the conservation of energy but the motional electric field does NOT as it is non- conservative therefore if one was to use these principals a device can and will provide the power to it's self and the load once started.

preserve the power used to the primaries not expend it.

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Marathonman
That's not really true the thing you refer to as a generator doesn't generate any thing it's a contradiction in terms !
it's a device that generates BEMF and forces + and - potentials further apart the heat is produced by the BEMF and the way it is internally wired make some electronics to make it more efficient and your in business.

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Re: Free Energy is IMPOSSIBLE without this, why everyone fails!
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2018, 12:05:38 AM »
Faraday's law of induction is a basic law of electromagnetism predicting how a magnetic field will interact with an electric circuit to produce an electromotive force (EMF)—a phenomenon called electromagnetic induction.

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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2018, 12:49:41 AM »
Pretty words marathon man, but there is no truth to them.


Generators are MOSTLY explained correctly by convention, by Lenz Law.


There is however a degree of truth, electricity is not a flow of aether, it is a flow of valence electrons (or ions outside of metal) due to either a change imbalance or due to an EMF, and an EMF is like an electric field/force that pops into being due to some change or movement or time varying nature of a magnetic field.


Curiously this EMF exists as with Hooper-Moonstein even where the magnetic field is not detectable because it sums to zero, but it turns out despite summing to zero magnetic fields still exist, this is also how a transformer works despite there being potentially no detectable magnetic field where the secondary turns are.


Now, there are some clever ideas like that of the MEG and switched flux paths there it seems maybe Free Energy should happen, but it never seems to, but I digress, it is however hard to analyze these systems.
Fact is, conventional physics accurately and almost completely explains most things to very high degrees of accuracy, even to parts per million!


Free Energy does not just happen, and when it does happen there is more that just Free Energy going on, there is almost every time other anomalies observed!


Ok, so back to generators, you see there are a bunch of ways that generators can involve the aether, this is a secondary current, it can be generated by a generator and it flows though a wire, and it can even be sort of like electricity, this stuff often won't read on a meter, sometimes it seems loads can actually burn this stuff, but most of the time there is too little of this stuff to do anything.


And it is this aetheric current, this radionic like energy that flows through the wires, can easily flow out the end of a wire because unlike electrons that move slow, this stuff moves like a high speed fluid.
You description is somewhat fitting for this.
And it could be that this energy somewhat increases the efficiency of motors and generators.

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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2018, 04:45:38 AM »
You; "Pretty words marathon man, but there is no truth to them."
Me: you have absolutely no clue what so ever as to the truth.
Me; the electricity is the Aether pulled from counter space dimension caused by the polarization of the primaries.
You; "That's not really true the thing you refer to as a generator doesn't generate any thing it's a contradiction in terms."

who said anything about generating but you. it is YOU who is wrong and stop putting words in other people mouths and read what they say not what you thought they said. it is you that does not know how a standard generator works. they are Aetheric pressure systems all day long.

You; "Generators are MOSTLY explained correctly by convention, by Lenz Law."
Me; WRONG again and not even close. living in a fantasy land explained with incorrect assumptions.
You; "it is a flow of valence electrons (or ions outside of metal)"
Me; Completely wrong again. typical Dogma taught College School BS grasping for straws handed down from generation to generation.
You; "Fact is, conventional physics accurately and almost completely explains most things to very high degrees of accuracy"
Me; OMG !  i can't stop laughing, that is like watching Feynman explaining a magnetic field and squirming on a hot pan.


"Faraday's law of induction is a basic law of electromagnetism predicting how a magnetic field will interact with an electric circuit to produce an electromotive force (EMF)—a phenomenon called electromagnetic induction."

WOW ! now i never would of thought of that if you were not here. thank you so much and thank you for sharing.

Not much learned here but very comical though. needs a few more years to ripen.

Regards,
Marathonman


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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2018, 06:24:10 AM »
Me: you have absolutely no clue what so ever as to the truth.
Me; the electricity is the Aether pulled from counter space dimension caused by the polarization of the primaries.
We will have to agree to disagree.
But it is worth noting that electricity, the movement of charges, these charges are already in matter in this dimension.
What you are saying is true only of the aetheric component of electricity, and the aetheric component can be stripped and the thing called electricity still occurs.


I am not saying that EMF's don't maybe pull aetheric energies which might have a pseudo or fractional electrical charge from a couterspace dimension, not that I would say it does, but I don't know what a "counter-space dimension" is in the first place.
Certainly electron and proton like energies are moved by such a generator, and these might be described as extra-dimensional or something similar.


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You; "That's not really true the thing you refer to as a generator doesn't generate any thing it's a contradiction in terms."
I did not say that, another poster did.
who said anything about generating but you. it is YOU who is wrong and stop putting words in other people mouths and read what they say not what you thought they said. it is you that does not know how a standard generator works. they are Aetheric pressure systems all day long.
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You; "Generators are MOSTLY explained correctly by convention, by Lenz Law."
Me; WRONG again and not even close. living in a fantasy land explained with incorrect assumptions.
You; "it is a flow of valence electrons (or ions outside of metal)"
Me; Completely wrong again. typical Dogma taught College School BS grasping for straws handed down from generation to generation.
You; "Fact is, conventional physics accurately and almost completely explains most things to very high degrees of accuracy"
Me; OMG !  i can't stop laughing, that is like watching Feynman explaining a magnetic field and squirming on a hot pan.

They have HUGE holes in their understnading, and there are whole areas of physics held together by sellotape and faith in Einstein.

But they also get a lot of things right, and there is a ton of evidence for electrons and a lot of details about it, there are maybe some funny things about spin and there are a few issues, but there is a lot that they get right and get right to amazing degrees, I don't throw out all of conventional physics, I just throw out portions that are obviously and proven false.  But each to their own.
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"Faraday's law of induction is a basic law of electromagnetism predicting how a magnetic field will interact with an electric circuit to produce an electromotive force (EMF)—a phenomenon called electromagnetic induction."

WOW ! now i never would of thought of that if you were not here. thank you so much and thank you for sharing.

Not much learned here but very comical though. needs a few more years to ripen.

Regards,
Marathonman


IMO you are conflating 2 things.
The hadcore materialistic electrcicity which shows few if any signs of overunity or anomaly.
And the aetheric component which might be what you say it is.


The aetheric component can be huge for certain type of electrical energy generation, and this is the energy that can easily be turned into more and more energy with suitable processing.

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Re: Free Energy is IMPOSSIBLE without this, why everyone fails!
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2018, 07:28:47 AM »
Your quote /quote tags need some work.

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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2018, 07:52:47 AM »
Your quote /quote tags need some work.


Ah crap, something about this adds all sorts of font junk I have to clean up as well, just cleaned up my reply to you, ok, note to self, I should NOT intersperse replies here.


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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2018, 01:39:53 PM »
I'll agree on that one.
all of man's electric machines are of electrical pressure (pressure systems)
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2018, 02:06:23 PM »
I remember I read something about this topic  There was discussion in early 1900 about aetheric force and the consensus was established  that there is only one electricity , whih means all so called aetheric effects or even metaphysic effects can be finally explained by science. I believe it so that aetheric effects are simply electromagnetic effects here the sourc of power is our Earth not tthe circuit power source.

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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2018, 02:48:04 PM »
I remember I read something about this topic  There was discussion in early 1900 about aetheric force and the consensus was established  that there is only one electricity , whih means all so called aetheric effects or even metaphysic effects can be finally explained by science. I believe it so that aetheric effects are simply electromagnetic effects here the sourc of power is our Earth not tthe circuit power source.


I guess that depends on what is in a name.


You say "it is all electricity".


That makes me ask "What is electricity?".


And, I mean, be really specific!


Do you accept there are positive and negative charges?
Do you accept the negative charges fly through a vacuum with the right setup, but the positive charges don't...  because they are atoms!
Do you accept electric fields motivate electrons?
Do you accept that a magnetic field can place forces of electrical charges based on some confusing set of conditions, but, essentially by movement or time varying and whatever an N-machine is?


See, if electricity is just charges and their moving because of an imbalance or a field's forces, then electricity is electrons and ions and their movements, but MOSTLY electrons as even in ionization they are the only net movement (well, assuming metal is part of the circuit).


So if you are saying "electricity is charged bits of matter and associated field forces somewhat' then I would answer that no, electricity is most assuredly not aether.  or, not more aether than matter is at any rate.

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Re: Free Energy is IMPOSSIBLE without this, why everyone fails!
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2018, 06:23:41 PM »
as I am a full time researcher and experimenter in "Overunity" systems, I won't be hypocritical, I will assume the.....for now "assumptions" of aether being a key to reciprocal energy efficiency systems, how is it you propose or intend to empirically show viable methods and/or technologies that can be utilized right now ???

I am an optimist at heart, you need to be in my line of work, but even in my experiments and successes, I do NOT just blatantly imply exciting and promising already is available without backing it up in some way......

your statements as they are, are intriguing as an idea, but can it be implemented, what organized data have you acquired to even suggest that this is a viable idea, much less an actual, beginning to a new direction ???, again, trying to think positively and assuming you have something more convincing than your current statements to inspire even a modicum of confidence in your idea, how far down the road do you estimate the ability to integrate the "aether contingency" into current research and/or full on experimentation ???

as patient as people can be here, it's aggravating enough just doing what we do now, trying every day, little by little to solve every new puzzle, patience wears eventually, if you intend to come in here with a claim of "OU" can't exist without MY theorem, you better be ready and able to pop that dinner in the microwave REAL FAST, because these people here have been starving for some promising results for a LONG TIME and they don't want to wait for dinner till tomorrow, while you hold a picture of a steak in their faces.......you will have a riot on your hands.

so, don't tell us what you think, empirically SHOW us what you ACTUALLY have please...

Thank You for your time sir and hopefully a viable addition/alternative to further progresses our cause

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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2018, 01:18:26 AM »
Hello J. Hewitt, I will try my best to address your post, thanks for being an optimist, let's get cracking.


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as I am a full time researcher and experimenter in "Overunity" systems, I won't be hypocritical, I will assume the.....for now "assumptions" of aether being a key to reciprocal energy efficiency systems, how is it you propose or intend to empirically show viable methods and/or technologies that can be utilized right now ???




Well, I'm not.
Simply, things move through stages.
The first stage the thing might not even be known about or guessed.
The next stage some have experience of it and it becomes a myth or something magical, this is where the aether is currently for most.
The next stage is where electricity was when it could twitch a frogs leg, there was proof of it, but no clear utility, but that brought more study and elementary understanding.
The next stage brought electricity to more vigorous experimentation and useful things began do be made, this blossomed into what we have today which is the final stage, an advanced level of utilization


Now, some people have taken this aether thing to the second to last stage, there useful things could be made.
I however am currently only at the frogs legs twitching stage, though in some ways ore advanced, and yet simultaneously if you don't count subjective human experience, maybe even objective human experience and sensation of this energy, not quite that stage.


But, the point is that to get it to the next stage, I don't think pulling out a finished product is the answer, as people will just focus on the product and not care how it works, replications will fail again as people assume it works just electrically.
I am pushing the science and the understanding itself!


If you want a Free Energy design, or an Antigravity design, there are LOTS to choose from, what I am presenting is simultaneously much more and much less.
I am showing you the science, the understanding, not an end product, but the ability to be a pioneer with understanding of a fresh new branch of science that has been newly unlocked, what could be found is limitless and is more than just overunity.


Yes, there is unknown, and results beyond those of feeling energy cannot really be guaranteed.
I believe I am on the precipice of getting this to work, but if I do I will be too scared to share, now I can share rather more freely as I am just a crank, and not worth the bother.


Maybe I could share this now with you guys, and as MOST people feel the energy so at least some of you will, and then you will experiment and find the energy works much as I say, but perhaps you won't get any breakthrough, it won't have cost anyone much, it won't have likely stopped anyone from getting OU/FE but it will have been just a curiosity, something you include in designs but doesn't help or hinder.


But there is another possibility, if I am right I have cracked enough of the "code" that within the first month of people trying things with this energy, some startling anomalous and maybe OU results are obtained, and quickly this grows and revolutionizes the world.
Everyone here that works on this goes down in history as a pioneer that revolutionized science and technology and took the first steps to making Star Trek type technology a possibility.


I consider that both of these possibilities are about even, and the second possibility is so bright, and it takes the responsibility off of me.




Ok, you said not just viable technologies, but viable methods, well I have viable methods to produce an energy that the vast majority of humanity can directly feel (and ways it can be objective).    I think the ability to evolve a clearly real and novel energy field is viable, as for how can I prove it is the same thing in use from claims of fringe inventors of the past, I can provide correlations aplenty if you want to delve into that, that show that they used these same techniques, of course that is not proof, it could be a coincidence, but how likely is it that they used techniques that produce an energy but didn't use that energy as part of their technology???


Now sure, I would love to be in a position to present you with more, but is this not potentially worthwhile if I am right that it can make the difference between stumbling in the dark and actually working with both knowledge and an ability to feel your way to success?


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I am an optimist at heart, you need to be in my line of work, but even in my experiments and successes, I do NOT just blatantly imply exciting and promising already is available without backing it up in some way......


As I have said, this energy can be felt, I wish it was "can be felt by everyone", but sadly it is merely "can be felt by most".
But that is still far far better than "can be felt be a small minority".
Or worse "can only be felt by me".


The question is, if that is the best I can do, should I just let the rest of you stumble in the dark when I have decoded so much?


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your statements as they are, are intriguing as an idea, but can it be implemented, what organized data have you acquired to even suggest that this is a viable idea




Well I have 24 years of research into this.
I had enough evidence to focus my life of this full time essentially for 17 years with only correlations to show this is what was the force behind past experimenters success.


I have been willing to go into correlative detail, but now, I am willing, but mostly I would rather dive into more powerful evidence and action, still if you want to go into that we could, but it is more powerful to experience it, more useful too.


I am not asking people to take things on faith.
If you agree that "aether" is the driving force behind Free Energy and Antigravity, then it stands to reason that if I can present means of generating some kind of substance or field or energy that seems to match this 'aether" and works with similar looking means and principles that you are willing to assume is key, then very probably what I am presenting is not some novel but irrelivant distraction, but is the very same aether.


Again, I would like to present more than that, I would like to have more than that to present, but is this not still a significant amount?
As for what evidence, my evidence is my own experience with feeling this energy and having others feel.


Now I get that for some people who want meter readings and hard data, that just isn't enough, but if these subjective or partly objective experiences can be shared with most people, does it nor become useful enough data?
I mean, it would want to be on the fringe, on the leading edge, you might have to climb onto the skinny branches, you might have to work without cement foundations.


If you want safe settled science that has white papers and calibrated instruments and decades of research to confirm things, then you shouldn't be out in the fringe looking to bring new things into science.


If you are not inspired be the pioneering spirit, by learning new things and exploring things that are not already well established, then this research isn't for you.


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much less an actual, beginning to a new direction ???, again, trying to think positively and assuming you have something more convincing than your current statements to inspire even a modicum of confidence in your idea, how far down the road do you estimate the ability to integrate the "aether contingency" into current research and/or full on experimentation ???


I think that it can easily be mixed into current research with little to no effort and expense and risk.
I think it can have high payoffs.
I think it might only work to produce a strong result often enough to be well worthwhile.  I expect that involving aetheric energy to bring material results with little investiment at a rate that does not make it all that much of a long shot.


In truth, I don't think it is down the road at all, I think we are here, it only takes someone to be interested and to remain interested as I try and pass on my knowledge.


If someone was "tell me what to do to this experiment I am about to try right now" I could probably give them 20 different ways to improve their chance of success which would be easily implemented.


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as patient as people can be here, it's aggravating enough just doing what we do now, trying every day, little by little to solve every new puzzle, patience wears eventually, if you intend to come in here with a claim of "OU" can't exist without MY theorem, you better be ready and able to pop that dinner in the microwave REAL FAST, because these people here have been starving for some promising results for a LONG TIME and they don't want to wait for dinner till tomorrow, while you hold a picture of a steak in their faces.......you will have a riot on your hands.
Well, then I guess the question is back to you guys, how long are you going to dick around before you ask me what the techniques are?
How long are you going to wait before you test the image I uploaded in the 'aetheric transformer/inductor" thread,  or the coil in that same thread?


I am ready to help you guys right now, pull out that OU motor that didn't work.
Pull out that Kapanadze coil that didn't work.
Pull out that Hendershot, Hubbard, anything really that doesn't work.


And make the changes I suggest, and see what you get!


Ask me about the physics of the aether.
Ask me about the techniques.


I am as ready to spill as you are to get results.
Hey, I want results too!


So rather than messing around with tyre kicking, I'm not asking for money, what do you have to lose honestly?!


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so, don't tell us what you think, empirically SHOW us what you ACTUALLY have please...
Thank You for your time sir and hopefully a viable addition/alternative to further progresses our cause


Well, it sounds like you want to see the techniques?!


Ok, so here is the game plan.


#1  I want people to make coils or to try and feel the energy from the images, this can quickly remove a lot of doubt and skepticism, AND being able to feel what is going on with aetheric energy is a HUGE help!
While I would not say it is pointless to follow my lead if you cannot feel aetheric energy, it is immeasurably better not to be working blind, or on faith.


#2 Once a useful number of people report they can feel energy from my images/coil, I will then, depending on the number, share with just them in private, or if more on here publicly how they would go about including these techniques with little difficulty in experiments.


That really is it.


If you want to jump over stage 1, and jump to stage 2, well, ok, but I think it is far better to try and first get on the same page so you don't have to take me at my word.

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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2018, 02:05:37 AM »
Ok. I am in.
Eather22, tell me the way you experienced that energy.
Lets go from there.
Maybe we can find a way to make something work.
best regards


Ok, I feel I have already done that, but here goes...


So, I made a coil that i had a hunch might affect the aether, I put my hand above it and I felt initially a very very faint energy in my right hand.


The longer I tested it, the more and more clearly I could feel the energy in that hand, I think both the energy was getting stronger (in part due to how I learnt to move my hand) and the energy was building up in my right hand till it became acute, to the point of it being painful.


It was no longer on the edge of perception, it was a solid and real as any material thing, yes simultaneously it was unlike any normal sensation, I could feel the energy right through my hand,not just on the surface.


It felt sometimes warm, somtimes cool, but mostly it help increasingly like pressure.
It could feel tingly, the sensations changed based on different variables, as the energy and my energy changed so did the quality of the sensation.


I still could only feel it in my right hand.


It took weeks, actually I think a few months probably before I began to feel energy in my left hand, this built up slowly as I did not use it as often being right handed.


So one of the things that makes it clear it isn't just that somehow my mind has found ow to hack my body and make it feels fake sensations, because it only happens in locations that get exposed to a lot of the energy for a long time!


So there you go, that is the history of how I experience it.
It isn't spiritual, it doesn't take an altered state of mind.


It does help if your hand is tense, that seems to resist the energy better and it builds up, moving your hand toward and away from the thing to be felt is hugely important, it can make a flow even from a regular object, but probably that works much better if your hand has a stronger built up field.


It is the "state of hand" that matters more than state of mind, I mean state of mind only matters in as much as not trying to block or project, you just want the mind to be not overly critical or overly wanting, it just shouldn't interfere.   Wringing fingers and dynamic hand movements help connect to the energy.  See if you can feel anything at all and then try and maximize, play with it to try and see how you can maximize the effect.    If you are to do anything with your mind, just put your awareness in your hand, imagine your hand becoming inflated, pumped with energy and blood from your body.    The last thing you want to do is have your hand "passive", it feels energy by having energy in it, the motion causes it to receive energy, but the hand itself should be a little tense, like when making a stop sign, or "talk to the hand" :)


That is about as complete I can be, why everyone is fascinated with me and how I feel it I don't bloody well know, MOST people can feel it, I have tried hundreds of people in person, and what must be 50 people with images online and feeling energy is not rare!   it is the norm.


So, rather than worrying about how and what I feel, what do YOU feel?


Have you tried it?


Give it a go now!


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Re: Free Energy is IMPOSSIBLE without this, why everyone fails!
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2018, 03:37:42 AM »
This sounds much like the Keshe pain pens. They give of a subtle energy which can be detected by pointing the tip between your forefinger and thumb and moving the pen around. As Aether22 has mentioned not everyone can detect this energy. In my experience it will temporarily reduce and even eliminate pain.

 

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