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Title: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 24, 2018, 03:06:04 AM
This can be made quickly, and I believe it could lead to Free Energy, more-over it can lead to appreciation of aetheric energy, energy
 than can be felt.


Take a core, thinner/longer is better (but not necessary), it can be made of cut lengths of steel wire or welding rod as Bedini does for
 best results ...   Cut wire lengths bundled together add an energy component.


Wind a coil on this, this inner coil could be any regular coil, ideally a simple right handed knot, the first knot you tie when tying your
 shoes should be done just right handed -\-, this allows aetheric energy to circulate in this coil.  A simple twist like this is enough to
 keep the aether circulating within this loop endlessly.


Then add an insulator over the top of this coil...  So far with the exception of a twist, this is a regular coil...


Then comes the novel part, with another wire wind a first coil of say 50 turns on one half of the coil, and another of say 32 turns on
 the other side, while some numbers will be better than others, you want to have more turns on one side than the other, these coils create an uneven bucking magnetic pole in the center.


Ideally this second outer coil should cover the entirety of the inner coil, also this semi-cancelling coil can be further wound in a
 scramble wound fashion.


This outer coil can be can be energized as the primary of a transformer.  Or it a cap can be put across the ends and it can merely
enhance the energy on the inner coil, because that is what this coil does, it creates a sort of aetheric pressure on the inner coil!


You can make a simple demo of this (if you have wire) an a little over a minute, and if you energize the outer wire, the odds are high
 you will feel energy coming from the ends of the wire of the inner coil!


Some numbers are highly superior for the number of turns, especially of the outer coil...


32
48
50
56
72
88
Ask for higher numbers if interested...


There is a further advance possible, the inner coil could be 2 coils, each wound on half the length, then winding over the other, this
 creates a further amplification effect!


Such a coil will have activity, not electrical, but activity none the less even without being energized, and this energy is tangible.



Additional tips, connect just the negative of an unused battery to a powered electrical circuit, this is "splitting the positive" as you
 only connect the negative.


In addition, attached is a pattern that if put around a component, say a coil, or magnet, but feel free to experiment, will help that
 thing build up energy, you can re-create this pattern (which is 2 square grids crossed and interconnected) with wires/rods, or just
 print up this image (weaker) or lay wires over the lines in the printed image, but out a circle so you can put it around a component.


I have made this VERY easy to try, I PROMISE that if a number try this (and it really takes very little effort, you can do all of this in
 under 5 minutes) some will feel the energy, as many as 90% of people can feel this type of energy!
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 24, 2018, 09:31:08 AM
A diagram on making the coil was requested...


Small error :The example of how it looks in the final 2 steps for the alternate omits the yellow wire.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 24, 2018, 10:30:41 AM
Thank you, i will try to replicate this and post results, I like simple devices :)

The output is not normal electricity? but still "something" that i can feel?

and one more thing, the coils on the right side of the picture represent alternate version ? and more "efficient" ?
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 24, 2018, 12:15:16 PM
It is a bit more bother to make the alt version, and it is worth noting that is you follow the instructions on the left side you can use
 the coils in a ready made device, just add the bucking coil on top.


Also the device might be able with decent construction and testing and a few more tips and tricks be able to be turned into a Free
 Energy OU device, but really at this point I am just trying to explain the concept which is mostly "wind x turns one way, reverse
 direction and wind more turns the other way on top of a coil, energize or at least place a cap".


Really there are a lot of ways this could be used, the switch could be pulsed or just left.  If there is already an EMF you could just put
 a cap...


As for the energy out, yes, this is maybe not even by best attempt at making something to be felt, but it is an attempt at making a
 simple component that can be used to retrofit almost any design with electromagnets provided there is room left for the extra turns.


Once you make it I can coach you of how to go about trying to feel the energy that should be issuing through the inner coil.
In the case of the alt version (which is less flexible, and partly inspired by the cook coil) you could short one of the inner coils.


Also as you only need to feel one end of wire, you could tie one end into a bow as shown, this sucks aetheric energy, similar to how
 Dan A. Davidson explained about converging lines...


Also, on the feeling energy front, some can feel energy even from images on a screen (like 60% instead of 90%+ ), so I will attach
 an image for that, if you place your hand on the below image (the one with the circle) and pull you hand from the screen out about
 2 feet and back in for 2 minutes, and then try and feel it however you like, there is a chance you will feel it.

Note: This specific image works better upright.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: seychelles on July 24, 2018, 12:23:45 PM
MY TWO RUPEES WORTH..
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 24, 2018, 12:40:25 PM
Seychelles, did you make that image?  Because if not I can't help but think whoever did is an A-hole who is working against
Free Energy, that much blank image just stretches the size of the forum page to make posts really hard to read, can you please fix it,
 trim it down, thx.


Ok, sorry, I am PROBABLY just being paranoid and it is someone's native resolution and they didn't know how or didn't bother to crop it.


note: I have now added linebreaks in all my above messages so they aren't stretched so you have to scroll left and right, it had made them almost unreadable.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 24, 2018, 01:54:55 PM
aether22 what input you recommend? AC? pulsed DC?  low frequency? car battery or HV?
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 24, 2018, 02:15:22 PM
aether22 what input you recommend? AC? pulsed DC?  low frequency? car battery or HV?


I would go with anything but the AC, but even the AC would work, but better if not from the mains really.
High frequency high voltage, as long as it is not too high for the impedance of it might be a good call.
Car battery would be fine, HV is discharges could be interesting...


Really any and all, I just have a distaste for the mains, mains powered things can work, but it is harder to stop them from trying to
"elevate" the whole mains, and mains power is pretty de-energized.  caps or an isolation transformer can help, heck, even a simple
twist can help, this couples the right handed spiraling energy so it remains within the circuit, let me show you in the attached
image...

Oh, and technically no electrical input is needed to feel the aetheric energy, just the coil with the outer coil shorted, but it will be better with electrical power applied.  I also re-iterate, if you add the negative pole of an otherwise unconnected battery (car battery is ideal), you will improve performance.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: forest on July 24, 2018, 07:50:21 PM
Very nice very nice. ;D  now you only have to consider it is the magnetic field around us which is the aether ,well to simplify (it is an organized flow od aether)
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 25, 2018, 01:21:40 AM
Very nice very nice. ;D  now you only have to consider it is the magnetic field around us which is the aether ,well to simplify (it is an
 organized flow od aether)


EVERYTHING is made of aether.  So everything that flows is a flow of aether.
But, these forms of aether are already named, so it is pointless to really say that they are "aether", and not all aether flows manifest
 as magnetic fields.


Now, magnetic field flows, flows of water, really every physical phenomena has some additional effect of the underlying aetheric
 energy, so they do create an additional effect on aetheric energy we cannot readily detect or measure.


I am not going into the details, the details are that the aether is a superfluidic and potentially hyper-spacial substance, everything is
 a different vibration/dynamic within this underlying aether.


The energies that I am effecting are mostly not the true underlying bulk aether below, but rather the echos of material dynamics in
 the aether, which is like saying imagine matter is a tornado, and I am pulling a stream of eddies O ooooooo>  from the vortex
 mostly the not making the bulk of aether flow, but the bulk of aether is harder to detect as by default it passes through us with little
 effect.


It is disturbed or energized aether that has substance, everything that aether or aetheric energies flow through condition the aether
 and the aether pulls off some of the "dance" the frequency, quality of that thing.    Each substance makes it's own aetheric field, if
 you pull the field from say steel and put it into copper it experiences much less friction and moves very quickly, but only when not
near steel, the moment it gets near steel friction hits, the friction generates more energy but it kills the velocity.


There are aetheric energies that are the 'wash" or 'ghosts" or the subtle energy of electrons, so called soft electrons or space
electrons, this is why negative ions are healthful as waves in the air knocks energy out of the negative ions and so it produces ghost
 ion energy, this energy acts like an electron, it also spins in a right handed spiral, your DNA is designed to absorb this type of
energy and it does, the positive ions however act like ghost protons and when you have a mix of these energies, when you create a
 flow they tend to go in opposite directions, the proton energy has a left hand spin and when the right handed energy conducts one
 way the left handed energy move the other way so their direction of rotation agrees, but this creates head on collisions, and these
 collisions create more energy at the sacrifice of speed, this leads to stagnation.    Orgone being electrons has been observed by the
 likes of Konstantin Meyl, when I heard that claim I did not believe it..  But it is true.


You see when I made my first coil I assume "aether was aether" and that it was one thing, but it is not, there are an endless number
 of different aetheric energies that can exist, it is all one aether, but many of these energies pass through each other, recently I have
 been discovering the importance of what I have come to call aetheric bandwidth where you pull together a larger range of aetheric
 patterns so that the energy affects a broader range of energy/matter/reality.


But this is all getting far far ahead of the basics which I need to try and tech you first, and the basic first lesson is that aetheric
 energy is what you need to learn, and that I have useful and unique insights for you to learn from.
That is not a hard thing to show you, but it is CRITICAL!


So, please, if you seriously want to achieve Free Energy, try making a coil, ask me how to prove this to yourself, I cannot guarantee
 you will feel the energy, but I can guarantee that overall most people do.



Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aussiebattler on July 25, 2018, 03:37:39 AM
I would be very wary of replicating these circuits. I ran one thru my recently acquired app "Testing for shonky circuits" and it came up with a red alert. It seems that if one of the aethers escapes and collides with a quasar a catastrophic volcanic like eruption follows. Apparently this leads to millions of electrons leaking  out everywhere causing disastrous results to all electronic devices in the vicinity. I also have it on good authority that the contaminated electrons are carcinogenic. This of course would require the experimenter to wear a full body suit for personal protection. In summary the circuits  could be replicated providing appropriate precautions are taken including the installation of fire extinguishers and taking out suitable insurance covering fire, explosion, and personal injury.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 25, 2018, 04:50:27 AM
I ran one thru my recently acquired app "Testing for shonky circuits" and it came up with a red alert.
It seems that if one of the aethers escapes and collides with a quasar a catastrophic volcanic like eruption follows.


Ok, you are joking and doing it poorly, firstly what I am saying indeed does sound like gobbledygook and nonsense to you just as
 explaining electric circuits with electrons and atoms and emf would sound like so much nonsense to someone before all this science was developed.


Next, there is some danger but not much.  One example of danger, though this came from just a TV, is the mythic explosion that
 apparently occured according To Steven Marks, when a boy was watching TV and the field around the ferrite yolk collapsed, well I
have created similar dynamic fields and it kinda adds up to me, the aether moves within such rings and it can come to a collapse
and in doing to it evolves a lot of aetheric energy.


I also felt the surf board like movements of the donut that SM mentioned, this does occur, though this was very very early (roughly
 7 years ago) once i had gained elementary success with feeling the energy, it was like in the first week probably, so it verifies what
 he did IMO.


But that is an example of possible danger.  albeit only from a very specific design, and unlikely overall, but Norm Wootan with  the
 MRA and sometimes with locked motors sometimes would break a magnetic circuit and a pulse that defies conventional physics
 would be released, but this was not as dangerous as the energy wave that IIRC killed the boy watching TV.


I have also heard that someone made one of Paul Pantone's GEET's and it exploded massively, that device causes transmutation and
 not NOT conventional, it is aetheric.


Still, such things are RARE!


But go on, joke and ignore because that will add so much to Free Energy research.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 25, 2018, 03:57:08 PM
So, presumably YOU yourself can feel this energy you are talking about, coming from your designs, coils or images. So I propose a
test. We will take one of your designs, coils or images, that you can feel, and we will put it into a box of some kind. We will have five
other identical boxes with inert contents. Let's use an image, since it won't be making noise or ordinary vibrations that might give it
away.  I'll mix up the six boxes, and you can tell me which one contains your energy-emanating image. We will repeat the 6-box test
ten times, and if you are able to correctly identify the box with your thing in it 8 times out of the ten trials... you win, and I'll write a
full report and get it published in a real journal. If not... I get your thousand dollars. Before we start, you provide proof of your
thousand dollars by putting it in escrow with a trusted third party (Chet? Wesley?).
Does that sound fair to you?  Since you yourself will be providing the image (or coil or device) and you yourself know already that
you yourself can feel its energy... this method eliminates all third-party variables. We didn't build the device wrong, whether or not
we are sensitive doesn't matter, there can be no excuses of that nature and you yourself will be the primary judge of whether or not
you yourself can feel this energy. 8 out of 10 trials with six boxes.... should be easy for you.

That sounds mostly fine, but there are some issues.
As for the $1k, I am unemployed, I do have the money actually and more put aside, but my [/size]mortgage just rolled over
(fixed term ended) so I put my money in there, while I can get it out of the floating portion, the plan was to pay it down from
 where it is and I am reticent to push it back up, though I could...  And in addition there will be fees for moving it out of
New Zealand which I would not be happy about losing, probable exchange losses and then I am trusting someone, though
I do have a strongly positive opinion of Chet the whole point of putting up the money is based on the idea that I am not trusted
 and he is, why do you consider my word and reputation is not enough?  I have been in this field my whole life and welching on
 such would not be good.[/font]
Also I am in New Zealand and it would cost more than that for us to get in the same place for the test unless you were ok for it
 to be performed here with people I can find and videoed...

I actually have not done much in the way of such tests, but I am rather confident I could do that, even though I don't generally
 like such tests since the energy can be consciously effected, so there is room for the test to be effected, I really don't like such
 tests in general, but I am 98% confident I'd be successful.
So my counter offer to your plan.

I make 2 different images, one that produces energy and one that doesn't, these could look near identical.
I then walk the streets of my town maybe a town within an hours drive and I ask strangers to see if they feel energy above
either image.
Then if people don't select the active image, or if a coil, the active coil, then I pay you the $1k.

Or, how about this...  as anything that involves me feeling energy locally and setting things up will be prone to be suspected
of being faked, maybe other could just see if they feel energy...
Why not just try it, and get some friends to do so?
I could make a similar looking design, indeed I could hide from you which one is active and which isn't.

If you or people you and others show it to cannot feel there is energy or pick the wrong one, then I will accept I have lost and
pay you the money, which I can get out, but I consider the chance of having to pay it out to be less than 1%.


I guess the other thing is we could do a multi part thing, first I prove that I and other locally can feel the energy, providing as
compelling proof as I can by selecting strangers.
And then you do tests there.


Or, and I know this sounds crazy, just try it!   The sensations are not subtle for long for a good % of people, the energy can be
very intense and quite shocking.
This is not all super subtle stuff.
In addition people, strangers with no knowledge have felt energy from coils, even when hidden!  It hasn't happened often, but
it HAS happened more than once!


Oh, and if you insist it MUST be on your conditions (yes, all of them), then I accept, but you must pay for the costs of travel
and the money is held in NZD by a 3rd party in person so there are no losses from sending the money.
whoever travels, me there or you here, unless by some long shot you are a New Zealander.


BTW attached is the latest image, just put it on your screen, feel in the space infront of the image, try putting your hand on
the screen covering the image, slowly move you hand back 2 feel feeling for any sensation, move your hand back in, keep this
up for 2 minutes, then just spend a few moments feeling if freestyle.   There is roughly a 50% chance you will feel something.
And a 25% chance it will be notable/intense.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Acca on July 25, 2018, 08:47:21 PM
Russian TV's where number one cause of fires in homes in Russian and Poland in the 1970's to 1990's. TV's did implode due to the picture tube being a vacuum for the electron gun to work. Crappy builds of electronics contributed   to that effect..


Ferrite ring was to blame as it overheated the thin neck (yoke coil)... In some circumstances the yoke went in to a resonant state and exploded. Question is why ?  Iron bonds broke went in powder and the powder was the source of fuel to burn down the apartment.  Heat was like 1800 deg.  Iron powder ignites with with a match.


There was a re-formulation of chemistry of the ferrite yoke.. and it stopped the TV fires...


Two tesla coils will make a superposition wave and destabilize atomic bonds if they are in resonance with an electrostatic field from a high voltage flyback transformer like on the back of the Russian TV's.. 


Try it it works, and aether may contribute to that effect..


As you are fascinating bringing up these effects of the aether,  like to here more on the effects, like on the helix wound  "smith coils"..


Acca..
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: TinselKoala on July 25, 2018, 08:51:43 PM
@SEYCHELLES:  As you can see, oversized images screw up the thread formatting and make the "reply" buttons and other buttons scroll off the screen to the right. Please limit images to 1024 pixels or less horizontally to avoid this issue.

@Aether22:
1. You really should not be putting money at risk unless you actually have the money to risk. This is why I mentioned the escrow as a condition to start. If you really don't have the money... then you shouldn't be gambling. Or rather, risking, even a one percent chance, that you might lose money you cannot afford to lose.

2. Your location in New Zealand should not be a problem. Please note that there is an active skeptic's society in NZ, with chapters or members in the major cities. I would accept the results of a properly blinded test designed and administered by some members of this society, along the lines of what I have suggested above. They know how to do properly blinded and controlled tests and they understand the statistics of randomization and regression to the mean.
You might even like to attend some of their "pub" meetings in order to get to know them and see how they think... and what they think about your claims.
http://skeptics.nz/ (http://skeptics.nz/)
If you have a problem with skeptics in a society, let me know and I'll get in touch with some people at the University of Auckland or Christchurch Polytechnic Institute of Technology or some other university near you and we can try to arrange a fair test there. 

Meanwhile, you might like to research the topic of "blinding" in psychophysical testing, so you can understand why the kinds of tests you have proposed aren't really objective, fair or suitable.

3. The money is also no problem. Surely you have no-kill animal shelters, dog/cat spay/neuter programs, or similar programs that care for dogs and other pets that need help. If you lose, I will accept as payment, proof of a confirmed 1000 NZD donation to such an organization. Just post a photo of the receipt for the donation. If you lose, that is. I have no desire to profit personally in the case of your loss, but I definitely do think that people who make such offers and claims should be challenged to make them good.

To be clear, what we would be testing is your assertion that you can yourself detect the subtle energy (or whatever you like to name it) emanating from your diagrams. This is a first pass at a basic test. If you yourself cannot reliably detect which box contains your diagram, then there is something wrong with your claim. Either there is no energy to be detected, or you cannot detect it, or the box blocks detection somehow, or some combination of these factors. Further, more refined testing would tease out the finer facts. If on the other hand you _can_ reliably detect the location of the concealed diagram, then you have a start of something really big -- if further testing confirms the results of this preliminary test.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: ramset on July 25, 2018, 11:35:23 PM

I think this is a great test protocol to advance your Findings.
IMO very good advice and easy enuff to do , there are probably plenty of fellows in that group in NZ who would love to help with the testing .
I never had much success with the Drawings,[feeling stuff ?] But I absolutely believe Aether 22 is getting results in this area ,good control's are important

also we do have other members in NZ...
Chet
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 01:13:50 AM
As you are fascinating bringing up these effects of the aether,  like to here more on the effects, like on the helix wound  "smith coils"..
Acca..


Sure, well just to clarify, the type of aetheric energy that I have found most readily abundant and most readily related to coils and electronics is, well the first functional coil I made was a coil made of a coil (wire coiled around wire) just as a Torus coil is like a single turn coil made of a coil.


But the point is the energy is of a spiral nature, that is because I presume electrons are literally spinning, the it is this spin energy, this right handed spiral that is the energy I tap with some/most experiments.


This is the energy that easily transfers from one wire with a simple twist, hence the reason for the twist in the ends of the first coil above.


But the nails in that story were bent into a spiral shapes, which kinda makes sense if the energy is amped up to insane levels.


I have found another energy moves in the other direction with a left handed spin, this seems from all experiments to be a positive charge, and they are even attracted to each other like charged particles, and I have found that these 2 energies collide, this collision stirs up more energy in a potentially runaway reaction just as SM described!


Also, this positive energy, too much you get sick as it shuts down the flow in your DNA, I have experienced this by making coils wrong, it is not pleasant.


Actually, I say the coil I made around 2012 was the first coil I felt energy from, actually that is not quite true, I first made the mirror image of it in 2001, it was wound in a left handed fashion, and hence pulls in and circulates the proton energy which is less abundant.  I thought I could "kinda maybe" feel the energy, but there is less proton energy (possible due to it being on the inside of the atom) and so I really wasn't sure, it was at the edge of sensation, it was too subtle and because i wound that coil the wrong way I lost 11 years of progress!
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Acca on July 26, 2018, 03:20:19 AM
S.M coils are very interesting as to the nature of spin of the generated magnetic field in those coils will keep the magnetic field inside.. Round doughnuts coils like the ones that have angular slope have a vortex type of spin.


As the velocity of the "superfluidic" hyper- space is super-rigid that has spin, the effects are opposition to directional change which requires energy and it induces friction in matter. My studies suggest that aether is rigid super fine vortextial "material" that interacts with matter on a sub-atomic level... and these helical vortextial stuff is the cause of the effect as what you have listed some of these effects..


Aether is the cause of straight travel in space (inertia)  and NO directional change, as if to change direction aether is opposing mass in the directional change. More mass the object carries more energy in needed to change the direction.


So science is at loss to explain the absence of "that aether".  Permanent magnets have spin and will increase in velocity if dropped from high elevation and decrease depending which way you can configure them.




All types of spin will effect the aether, try this next time you get out of a chair , as you get up rotate your body keep your legs together it takes less effort now try different spin direction..


Spin interacts with mass and gravity has no effect spin just aether..




I hope to provide you with a mechanical device that is altered by aether spin "real world" , like the Skinner weight
power amplifier from 70 years ago... Also that Earth is moving through space 66,000 mph. frame dragging it at a velocity of 19.5 miles per second.. Not earth rotation speed.. Aether is flowing through everything..and you.. move your arm back and forth,  it's inertia..that you feel..




Acca.

Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 03:39:37 AM
Acca, I agree to the extent I understood.


But let me ask you this, with your model of understanding of aether, do you have any ideas of how to affect it?


Ways to tap it?


I ask because a lot of ideas can simply be drawn or made with wire and the truth can be revealed as i am sensitive enough to tell what's going on even if the effect is modest.


I know of many ways, but sometimes I am limited by my imagination, there are things I simply don't think to try.
Other things I try because of some idea, it works but not for the reason I initially tried it.


There are a lot of powerful ways to engineer the aether that are very simple, effortless.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 05:04:42 AM

Maybe it is the result of arguing with too many internet trolls...
Some of which I believe are paid (operation mockingbird)...


Some of it is a distaste for skeptics like "The Amazing Randi" who is a charlatan IMO.
Really I don't like these so-called skeptics, I say so-called because true skepticism is also skeptical about their own biases against believing something.


Also, I don't want to be on the radar of those looking to suppress this kind of research.
Plus there is the consciousness factor which I explained.


So while I am sure we can find someone that can suit us both, maybe a member of this group in New Zealand (I live in Tokoroa BTW, but could if need be travel).
Or maybe someone from the local polytechnic...  or maybe a local very mild skeptic, well, really more of a seeker.
Just someone who will make sure the test is conducted well, but not anyone who is going to really care if it does work, I think a lot of skeptics are in denial and will never accept results.

Whoever it is could consult with skeptics and you on how to conduct the test with all due Rigor, leaving as little doubt as possible about the result.

But please remember, I want most of all to fly under the radar of those who seek to squash stuff, I am only presenting this in this forum because I expect to be lumped into the crystals and orgonite and energy healing crowd, not that that isn't somewhat accurate I guess...


I don't actually want any white papers to hit academia, I don't want to go public till I can fly my Anti-G saucer over a sports game and land on the field, or at the very least have a Free Energy generator anyone can build.


As for the money, I can afford to lose it, yes a donation sounds fine.


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To be clear, what we would be testing is your assertion that you can yourself detect the subtle energy (or whatever you like to name it) emanating from your diagrams. This is a first pass at a basic test. If you yourself cannot reliably detect which box contains your diagram, then there is something wrong with your claim. Either there is no energy to be detected, or you cannot detect it, or the box blocks detection somehow, or some combination of these factors. Further, more refined testing would tease out the finer facts. If on the other hand you _can_ reliably detect the location of the concealed diagram, then you have a start of something really big -- if further testing confirms the results of this preliminary test.


Well a printed image with no light won't work well (it works more with the light than the ink).   It would require either a light in the box or the image be on a tablet computer (which I don't own any suitable example of)
 
A coil for that reason might be better.
Some of the energy from images is actually blocked by opaque objects, the energy from an image actually re-creates the form of the design in space in-front of the image as though it were a projector.
This seems to be dependent on an energy that is optical because the design is.  But secondary energy dynamics projected from a design are not generally stopped by opaque materials.


So I will have to in such an event do my own testing, interestingly I don't really NEED a device to feel the energy from, once you have a lot of energy built up in your body, you both run it through objects, and you become more sensitive to energy, so it is not hard for me to potentially pull off that magicians trick of the nail in the paper bag, but I would elect against slamming my hand on the bags I think are empty as that is un-necessary.


Another option is there could be a bag, and I run my hand along and mark where along the length of it the coil/object is.


My request if I pass is not that you publish a white paper on this, but rather that you simply take seriously what I have to offer and try experimenting with it.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 07:05:46 AM
Ok, I did a quick test, but it showed some problems with this.


One thing I have long known is that the aetheric energy does not just stop because the the physical cause for it has been stopped.
So I could feel energy where a nail was, I still can, this can at time be a real pain as energy from an image can remain on my computer screen for many hours or a day afterwards.


Also there is energy coming from my eyes, and I think this charged the nail so it worked as a beamer...


This simply means I need to spend time with the nail beforehand to charge it up, so it isn't an impediment, it just means I might be ineffective at feeling energy from every day object unless I have interacted with them.


...More testing, I think that it should be some coil so the energy is as strong and unambiguous as possible.


So, I can only use each location/table for a test once within some amount of time (or, until all positions had been used up, whatever it takes for the energy to decay.


I also found that it does help if the energy from something is stronger, helps cut through the noise of other things including the possibility of projecting the energy consciously, which I can absolutely do, it needs to be strong and obvious enough to compete with such noise, including energies from other things.


And finally, by using patterned cushions to hide the locations of things from me, the geometry/colour of the cover can affect things, and ideally it should either be covered with plain fabric or better yet paper...  Or, even better not covered and me blindfolded by a method that leaves zero doubt, this removes the physical barrier altogether and any interference.


Honestly this is a bit messier than I would have expected.


I have had absolute strangers not under test or part of any experiment feel energies and report on them, I can't help but feel that setting this kind of test up in an intentional manner might be more powerful evidence, though maybe hard to vet.


Long before I ever felt this energy, I suspected that it doesn't like to be tested, and that's looking true.


I will work on this, I am thinking paper or opaque plastic cups might be another option, I will get some next time I go shopping.


I will see if there is somethng I can pass at home with 100% success, before I invite in anyone.   Also if i get it strong I'll feel it without ever trying, sometimes I have to use my hands to feel for energies, others I feel in places that aren't usually sensitive to energies, I should try and create strong because I am finding the weaker ones defeated by my subconscious projections (not terribly surprised).


None of these problems are terrible surprising, they are all issues I have known about, but it does make for some issues with certain tests.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: onepower on July 26, 2018, 07:17:41 AM
Aether22
You may have what is known a electromagnetic hypersensitivity which if fairly well documented. In the most extreme cases a man was proven to literally pass out in the next room every time a cell phone was turned on 100% of the time. Apparently these people suffering from this EM hypersensitivity built there own town where all electric devices are banned.

Most of the real science concerning this phenomena has been corrupted by those with a vested interest such as utility and communications companies. Obviously they have a vested interest in seeing that these issues never see the light of day.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 07:52:00 AM
Aether22
You may have what is known a electromagnetic hypersensitivity which if fairly well documented. In the most extreme cases a man was proven to literally pass out in the next room every time a cell phone was turned on 100% of the time. Apparently these people suffering from this EM hypersensitivity built there own town where all electric devices are banned.

Most of the real science concerning this phenomena has been corrupted by those with a vested interest such as utility and communications companies. Obviously they have a vested interest in seeing that these issues never see the light of day.


Not no, but not really.


I can feel energy from all sorts of things.
I can feel energy from electrical and magnetic energies.


But I can also feel energy from things that aren't electromagnetic.
And I am not notably effected by electrical things, my laptop's emitting wifi, but I can't say I have felt it, then again I have not tried.


Still, it is possible that people who are electromagnetically sensitive are not just sensitive to electromagnetic things.


But, really, it's not just me, I am not terribly unusual, I spent 17 years researching aetheric energy, trying to feel energy from orgone accumulator pipe thing I made, trying to feel energy from coils, and i never felt enough to really say for sure I felt anything.  Things were just on the edge of maybe being felt, the very edge of perceptibility.


But once I started to expose my hand to energy of the coil that really worked it went from "pretty sure I can feel something slight" to "Ouch" over 2 days or so.


So this is something most people can gain if they actually bother to, most don't bother to.

Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aussiebattler on July 26, 2018, 11:24:10 AM
Great work! I love comedy. Never laughed so much in years
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 11:33:56 AM
Great work! I love comedy. Never laughed so much in years


How about this Battler...


Try feeling the energy infront of the image I posted.


There is very roughly a 50% chance you will feel it if you try, give it 2 minutes, then you criticism of me will have some meaning!


So, you might not feel it, but the next person tries, maybe they won't either, but if I am right about this as more people try this people who feel if will be found.


I have had hundreds of people try this, the biggest challenge in online in a mass way since most people will just argue and not try it.


Really, this is the simplest thing, try it, and some, roughly half from previous experience, should feel it.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aussiebattler on July 26, 2018, 11:53:27 AM
 I think you have lost the plot Aetheric. The goal is to produce physical energy not spiritual feely feelys.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 12:47:44 PM
I think you have lost the plot Aetheric. The goal is to projuice physical energy not spiritual feely feelys.


The plot loss is yours.


So the goal is to take advantage of how physics really works in order to generate excess energy and other related anomalies based of success from people in the past.


And, did people in the past use sensitivity?  In MANY cases we know for a fact they did, and they used the aether/ether.
We know their results did not match conventional physics in a number of ways.


There are quite a few Free Energy devices that perform not just one impossibility, but two by actually creating antigravity or losing weight!!
There are a lot of other anomalies associated with these devices!


Now, if you want to ignore all that and apply conventional physics that tells you none of this is possible, go for it!
How well has that been working huh???


So, what I am proposing that maybe instead of doing the same thing again and again and again...
And trying to replicate devices using conventional physics that cannot achieve what is being sought...


You consider that there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence that supports evidence for Chi, Orgone and Ether!


And, why not?!


A good reason would be if you can't feel it, sure, I can give you some pointers, some tips, it might help, but it helps massively if you can feel the energy.  But unless people in this area are atypical (could be) MOST, up to 90% of you might feel the energy!


Sure, it's not an absolute cinch, I can tell you how to amplify this energy, but I can't tell you how much of it you need... 
But at the same time my ideas cost nothing to implement but a bit of time and a bit of wire...
They won't affect anything conventional.


They might lead to a Free Energy breakthrough in the first week, or, it might take years, I don't know. but then at least you guy's won't be stumbling in the dark!  But you, Aussie Battler don't seem to have the sense to try this.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aussiebattler on July 26, 2018, 12:57:46 PM
Correct. I haven't got the sense to try it.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 01:07:06 PM
I think my testing earlier today was mostly blighted by something that I try to explain to people, feeling energy is active.


The way I move my hand helps couple the energy, I won't just wave side to side, when I know where something is and I intend to couple to to feel it, I move my hand toward and away from the object.


But, if I don't know where something is as with the cushions, then I just have to feel along, and I realize that whenever I try to to that I can't feel sh!t.


Something about the to and fro helps lock energy on, where coming in front the side is more likely to brush the energy to the side.


I wasn't thinking of this factor, as my sensitivity has grown to a great degree, but you can't feel what isn't getting to you.


See, I am wiling to report my failures.
But, can having established I am honest anyone explain away my successes?  How are huge percentages of people just imagining really intense energy from nothing?  Sometimes the energy is too much, at times it has been toxic on rare occasions, or simply too much.  It has been felt by random people from hidden devices.    It has been recognized in every culture...   But if there isn't a meter for it, it doesn't exist right Aussie Battler?
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 01:20:38 PM
Correct. I haven't got the sense to try it.
Afraid you will feel something?  Or afraid you won't?
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aussiebattler on July 26, 2018, 01:28:39 PM
aether Actually I know exactly what you are talking about. Fear No way. I would put my spiritual strength up against yours any day. However this is not the appropriate place to deal with such matters. Email me if you wish.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: TinselKoala on July 26, 2018, 02:07:46 PM
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But, if I don't know where something is as with the cushions, then I just have to feel along, and I realize that whenever I try to to that I can't feel sh!t.
You should really meditate upon this finding of yours. If you don't know where it is, or you can't see it... you can't feel it. Some people might conclude that this means... you can't actually detect this energy at all. You might just be fooling yourself. 

There is a method to determine just how sensitive a person might be to some subtle stimulus. It is called Signal Detection Theory. A properly designed experiment, using SDT analysis, will reliably tell you whether or not you can actually detect what you think you are detecting, and also how sensitive you actually are (that is, just how weak a signal you can actually detect.) And very importantly... SDT can identify and quantify _bias_, that is, the tendency to state detection, or to deny detection, of the signal regardless of whether it is present or not.

But of course it's like dowsing, I suppose. People swear by it but when it is tested scientifically... the dowsers always fail.

The beauty of what I have suggested to you is that you won't have to rely on the subjective reports of others, which may or may not be honest, or take the chance that a device or drawing or coil prepared by someone else may be faulty in some way. YOU make it, you detect it, you feel its energy yourself. No ambiguity with that part of the trial.  Then all we need to do is make sure you can actually do it under controlled conditions.  If YOU can do it reliably, with devices, coils or diagrams that YOU made... I'll bet there will be many people who will go along with you and build and replicate.

But what if you can't? What if, even though you yourself still believe.... you can't do it? In that case I hope you will honor your donation of 1000 NZD to an animal charity.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 26, 2018, 02:16:56 PM
aether Actually I know exactly what you are talking about. Fear No way. I would put my spiritual strength up against yours any day. However this is not the appropriate place to deal with such matters. Email me if you wish.


Oh, well I am happy you have a rich spiritual life.


I have never had any spiritual experiences.
I am sure you could be more spiritual than me, I am too much in my head to really get into spirituality, I don't care for religion, I can't meditate, I just end up going to sleep.
I have never astral projected or seen anything that isn't there.


In fact I have genuinely wondered if something is missing or off, I remember thinking that watching people in church as a kid, were they getting something that I didn't?


I hear people talk about astral like experiences and seeing things and I can't help but wonder if they are bonkers.


No, this stuff, though it is spiritual for some, it is not spiritual for me, I did not really believe in chakras, till after I gain sensitive
 one day I was "wait, what's this thing".


I am a very grounded and logical person, I am an INTJ in the Myers briggs personality typing system, which means "Thinks to damn much".


I am sure you could out-do me spiritually.


But, I have found that I and like 90% of normal people can feel energy if they fucking give it a go.


But this is like Galileo's telescope again, people refuse to look.


Yes, I have become "interactive" with energy from being exposed to a lot of it, but I suspect that besides wanting to for a long time and being exposed to a lot of it for a long time, I would probably be LESS sensitive to this energy than most!


I just happen to have been exposed to it a lot.


So, again, why not spend 2 damn minutes with the latest image?  Why are people reluctant?


No one is arguing with me on the logic!  No one is saying that these devices don't create associated anomalies, no one is arguing that many of the successful inventors didn't use sensitivity.  You ridicule it, but there is a conspicuous lack of actual reason behind your attack.

Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 27, 2018, 06:02:28 AM
So I got some Polystyrene cups, now in many ways these are not ideal as they are conical and cones, even without points does focus energy.


And these cups have some tiny embossed circles in the bases (which also creates beams), if I had seen these details I would have bought something different, anyway I tried a very simple coil, but the results were too ambiguous, so I made a more powerful coil to cut through the noise of circles, cones, and how other elements interact...
I did find putting a cup or even the coil over a line made for a beam, much like Wilhelm Reich finding a flowing river enhanced cloudbuster operation (both are channels perpendicular to a beam), I have found this same effect where falling rain can enhance the energy in a circle massively as long as the circle is pointing at an angle across the sky (not straight up)...  Also corners suck energy out, as Dan A. Davidson mentions in shape power, and as I recall the Chinese lady mentioning on the Iron Fist TV show, but it's taken from eastern study of this same science.
Oh, and one last wrinkle, a book under the coil really suppresses the energy, I didn't think to check beforehand and based on the way the coil worked I was surprised it does this, but the coil clearly pulls energy from below and a whole bunch of pages screws things up.

So anyway, once I got rid of cracks/lines, corners, books below, made the beamer stronger...

I got 100% correct, 10 out of 10, only it was more than 10, maybe 15 out of 15, it became tiresome and count was not kept.

Yes, I know it is possible to be lucky 10 or 15  times in a row, but still the odds are low.


So I will try more, I am not ready to have the added pressure of skeptics, and money on the line, indeed if TinselKoala agrees it isn't necessary would like to withdrawl the money offer, not because I have less confidence now after finding blind experiments a bit trickier and affected by more than I had expected, but moreover because it adds un-needed pressure.


I think that the pressure to perform under a blind conditions is what makes the subconscious screw this up, the energy is so subtle it is affected by thought/visualization and when you don't know where something is, it is impossible not to try and guess, and that guess materializes some energy, the more pressure the more that competes, running a stronger coil under the cup did reduce that till I was able to get clean and clear answers, they weren't just right, they were clearer answers as the energy was simply more intense.


So, there is a huge difference between the level you can reliably feel blind and under test or otherwise, the noise level just increases a lot.


I might try filming me do this test, thus far I am just doing it with 2 cups, which cut has the coil changes randomly so there are no clues.
Because these are exact spots not whole areas to check it does not seem to be a problem with using the same table, as long as the locations dance around the table so that any remaining energy doesn't mess things up.
 
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: TinselKoala on July 27, 2018, 06:31:52 AM
I applaud your efforts and willingness to cooperate.

But... in your description of your experiment, I didn't see how you performed the blinding. Did you yourself put the coil in the cup? Really, you should have someone else do it and mix the cups up, without you seeing that part. Only after the coil is concealed by the cup and the cups are arranged in a random manner should you yourself (or other test subject) be allowed to see the cups. And there really should be more than just two cups. This would be a "double blind" protocol, as long as nobody knows which cup contains the coil when the trial is performed.
Even then... instead of detecting the energy, you could be reading the mind of the person who set it up and knows which cup it's in.   ( just kidding... sort of.)

The experiment could also be performed under the Signal Detection Theory protocol. This is both simpler and more complicated, heh. It would involve only a single cup, but many trials (like 30 or 50, the more the better) where the coil is either in the cup, or it isn't, randomly, and your task is simply to tell whether it is or isn't. Without touching the cup of course! This also has complications, like what if the energy "imprints" on the cup and causes False Alarms (a technical term in SDT). SO to avoid this you'd need a stack of cups and use a new one for each trial. Of course you need to test beforehand to make sure that the cup doesn't block energy (leading to a Miss (another tech term in SDT) instead of a HIT.)  (In an SDT protocol, on a given trial the subject sees a cup, and responds either "Yes it's in there" or "No, empty cup". And of course the cup either does contain the coil or it doesn't. So we have 4 possible outcomes: HIT (you correctly detected the coil), MISS (the coil was there but you said it wasn't), False Alarm FA (the coil wasn't there but you said it was) or Correct Rejection CR (the coil wasn't there and you said empty cup). Each trial will result in one of these four outcomes. At the end of all trials the percentages are calculated and a graph is drawn which will show any bias, how sensitive you are to the stimulus, and how strong the stimulus must be before you detect it. SDT is extremely powerful. )
 ;)
As far as the money goes... Hmmm. Perhaps you've learned that real tests of these things are more complicated than it first appears.  That's worth a lot of money right there. So I agree, we can put the money matter aside for the present. Of course I can't speak for anyone other than myself!
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 27, 2018, 07:39:33 AM
I applaud your efforts and willingness to cooperate.

But... in your description of your experiment, I didn't see how you performed the blinding. Did you yourself put the coil in the cup? Really, you should have someone else do it and mix the cups up, without you seeing that part.


Oh, damn!   That's a good idea, I had been putting them there and waiting till I forgot, or drank to blackout... :)

Give me a little credit Tinsel, the coil was placed by someone else when I was out of the room and a cup at random put over it and the other cup put elsewhere on the table.

If I had known where it was or had any way of knowing I wouldn't have got it wrong half the time before controlling for those factors.

I'll happily do more, but it became tiresome for both me and the person assisting.
I will do a few more, then film it, sure it would be easy to cheat with the person's assistance if I wanted to, so you will have to take me at my word, and I'm not expecting you to live up to your promise based on that alone, still it is a good first step towards that, all that has to be ruled out then is fraud or to reach a more statistically significant result.
 
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Only after the coil is concealed by the cup and the cups are arranged in a random manner should you yourself (or other test subject) be allowed to see the cups.

It was!


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And there really should be more than just two cups.



I respectfully disagree. I mean I get it, it requires fewer trials with more cups to rule out statistical chance, sure.
But it can be proven with 2 cups given more trials to the same level of confidence.
I am not saying that more cups wouldn't work, probably it would, I am just saying I have proven I can do 2 cups to my own satisfaction provided something improbable did not occur, and so if I did wish to go ahead with 2 cups it does not preclude gathering some rather compelling evidence.

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 This would be a "double blind" protocol, as long as nobody knows which cup contains the coil when the trial is performed.


True, now it wasn't double blind, but I can assure you I did not, not even subconsciously read the person helping to set them up.
Nor did I look at them.
It's someone I have never been able to read :)  And I am not that observant about peoples facial expressions and other ques.
I think it is very hard to setup this as a double blind, maybe the best that could be done is they leave the room so we are never in the same room at the same time, this is easy in my house as you can do a loop, maybe that should be the next test.

Even then... instead of detecting the energy, you could be reading the mind of the person who set it up and knows which cup it's in.   ( just kidding... sort of.)

Yes, in theory.
But it gets kinda silly.
Look, there is already no way the things that have happened could have happened if this was just that...
And if you do want to go for that theory, then it means that I give a coil to someone who knows about it, they sit in a hospital waiting room next to someone who then reads their mind and feel an energy based on what their person has in their pocket...
It gets pretty silly.


And then there is the fact that this aetheric science shows huge correlation between different people engaged in it developing and finding the same things and agreeing maybe not with each others theories and models but experiments producing the same effects.


I have many times independently of someone developed the same techniques and feel the same things, it is well well beyond coincidence.
I have also had many body (overload, or drained, or malaise) and healing effects, but you could put everything down to the mind I guess, but, it just isn't true.


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The experiment could also be performed under the Signal Detection Theory protocol. This is both simpler and more complicated, heh. It would involve only a single cup, but many trials (like 30 or 50, the more the better) where the coil is either in the cup, or it isn't, randomly, and your task is simply to tell whether it is or isn't. Without touching the cup of course!
If one cup can work, then so can 2 :)  <Later on I see why you like one cup more, I think.
I could try that, but I think comparison between 2 cups or more is good.
I will try a few rounds of that, really it has the same value as picking which cup, it is a binary choice.
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This also has complications, like what if the energy "imprints" on the cup and causes False Alarms (a technical term in SDT). SO to avoid this you'd need a stack of cups and use a new one for each trial.
Since I boosted the power of what I am feeling such imprints aren't having too serious an impact, when it was just a nail, the noise would ruin the signal.  I can feel some very subtle energies, but this is also a problem.
Still if I got one wrong at this point I would look for a cause.  I have already thought that ideally dots should be placed to record the locations that were imprinted on.


I will do another 5 tests and if they work I will film 10-20 tests and upload if they go all or almost all well., either 2 cups or maybe more if that tests ok.
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Of course you need to test beforehand to make sure that the cup doesn't block energy (leading to a Miss (another tech term in SDT)
These cups might be attenuating,  not sure, but they don't block the energy, but good point, maybe paper cups would, at any rate I should test.
There is one issue, by the cups being the same it means they can easily become linked like twins, they are energetically resonant, and could transfer energies between them, so I might rather use mismatched cups, but first I would need to test that itself does not cause problems!


Luckily so far that has not happened to an obvious degree.
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instead of a HIT.)  (In an SDT protocol, on a given trial the subject sees a cup, and responds either "Yes it's in there" or "No, empty cup". And of course the cup either does contain the coil or it doesn't. So we have 4 possible outcomes: HIT (you correctly detected the coil), MISS (the coil was there but you said it wasn't), False Alarm FA (the coil wasn't there but you said it was) or Correct Rejection CR (the coil wasn't there and you said empty cup).
Ok, so it's not binary after all.
I see why you like it more, still, 2 cups provides evidence, just slower.
I can try that method, but I think direct comparison is the easiest, if I feel energy in both places I go with the strongest, if energy is weak on both I go with the strongest, it gives me a reference.


I guess I could have additional known cup with coil and known cup without coil for comparison purposes, and see if the cup under test, the unknown cup, matches the one with or without a coil, this give a reference.   Still, probably any number of cups works, I just need to have a strong signal when testing this, like 100 times stronger than the minimum I can feel, maybe more, that give clarity.
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Each trial will result in one of these four outcomes. At the end of all trials the percentages are calculated and a graph is drawn which will show any bias, how sensitive you are to the stimulus, and how strong the stimulus must be before you detect it. SDT is extremely powerful. )
 ;)
As far as the money goes... Hmmm. Perhaps you've learned that real tests of these things are more complicated than it first appears.


Very much so.
I am increasingly regaining my confidence, but I did expect that I could just feel energy through things, but that is not nearly as easy as feeling energies on the surfaces of things, when I really thought about it, I never feel energies under things normally, I can feel the difference in the texture of the energy from the shag mats .vs wood boards floors while standing with my hands feet above the floor.
I can feel the walls across the room, the lighting fixture.
But I never feel things through walls or floors normally, when I do it is some powerful energy.


But with my initial tests I thought I'd be find feeling nails lying down through fat cushions, that was totally not correct!  :)
It turns out covering things is an issue as the energy is attenuated, absorbed, altered by the passage, by the geometry of it.
So there are a huge number of complicating factors, many I knew existed like energy persistence, but I had no idea how much of a problem all these issues turn out to be combined, and therefore all of these need to be controlled for including my subconscious sabotaging me with wrong guesses that manifest energy.  Ironically I might do best if I am drained, if I am charged I will project so much more energy.


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  That's worth a lot of money right there. So I agree, we can put the money matter aside for the present. Of course I can't speak for anyone other than myself!
Ok, cool, so here is what I intend to do...


As discussed above, I will run a few more tests for my own confidence.
Then I will run a few tests with either 1 cup, or a number of cups, see if either proves to be a problem.


Then I will film 10 or 20 tests based on the best method...


Then we can get someone more independent involved, someone who is friendly so I am at ease, yet suitable careful and impartial.


My question to you then Tinsel is, then what?


I don't want whatever you offered initially, a white paper or something, I'd rather quite simply that I have an audience of active experimenters who would try my tips and learn to feel energy for themselves!


Because I think I can hopefully, when I can pull myself from the effortlessness of graphic and unpowered coil based designs, advance to physical experiments and quickly get results, but once I get to that stage, honestly I will be too protective of myself and my work to share.


I have learnt so incredibly much over the past 7 + 17 years that I also am in danger of become incomprehensible, spouting my own made up language of gobbledygook :)    Currently I can still dumb it down.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: icarus on July 29, 2018, 09:03:41 AM
Hi Aether22,
OK, 5 minutes experiment. I did it.
Wrapped a first layer on a iron core, winded back and knot. Then insulation with 4 layer of cardboard.
Final layer: half of the turns CW and half CCW. Energized the final layer with a battery with a switch.

I don't feel anything. I have tried on two occasions and with 2 types of different battery (6 and 12 volt).
Nothing at all. Am I one of those who do not feel the "sensation" ?
Do I have to change something ?
To measure a sensation I think it's a big problem. You said conventional measuring systems fail.
What can we use to measure this event?
Uv camera? Geyger counters? Thermometers? Magnetometers? Vibration or movement sensors?
Thanx
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 29, 2018, 10:27:55 AM
Hi Aether22,
OK, 5 minutes experiment. I did it.
Wrapped a first layer on a iron core, winded back and knot. Then insulation with 4 layer of cardboard.
Final layer: half of the turns CW and half CCW. Energized the final layer with a battery with a switch.

I don't feel anything. I have tried on two occasions and with 2 types of different battery (6 and 12 volt).
Nothing at all. Am I one of those who do not feel the "sensation" ?
Do I have to change something ?
To measure a sensation I think it's a big problem. You said conventional measuring systems fail.
What can we use to measure this event?
Uv camera? Geyger counters? Thermometers? Magnetometers? Vibration or movement sensors?
Thanx


While I have not done exhaustive testing to say the least, I don't think there is any conventional way to measure all the types of this "energy".


So what I am going to ask you to try now is to wind a wire around one or both of the wires in that coil, but especially the inside one.


The straight grey wire would be the wire of say the inner coil, and the wire wrapped around it would be a separate piece of wire.


Now the right side end of the coil in the image could be ideally pointing into the inner coil (not out)  and you would feel the other end of that wire coil.


Wire coil in image \  \ \\|  > inner |||||||  coil > lead out---    Feel here


Feel the energy issuing out of the end, the coil in that image issues energy out the right side.


This will notably boost the energy coming from the coil and give you a much increased chance of feeling the energy.
I would have mentioned it at the start, but I wanted to keep it simple.

Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 29, 2018, 10:35:48 AM
Hi Aether22,
OK, 5 minutes experiment. I did it.
Wrapped a first layer on a iron core, winded back and knot. Then insulation with 4 layer of cardboard.
Final layer: half of the turns CW and half CCW. Energized the final layer with a battery with a switch.



Ok, so I see you did half the turns CW half CCW, that won't work.
There must be more turns one direction.


Also, the coil works BETTER if the outer coil is less neat and is scramble wound.


So add another coil in series with the outer coil and and do say 25 scramble wound turns to re-inforce one of the directions.


to be clear when energized this pole should have a North magnetic pole in the middle of it, I probably have not made that clear enough, but test with a magnet of known polarity, the south pole of a test magnet should be attracted to the center of this coil if it is made right.


Also, the ideal would be to put in AC or pulsed DC so there is a changing magnetic field in the outer coil.


With that correction and the addition of the coil in the previous post you stand a much better chance of feeling an energy issue out the tip of the end of the inner coil lead.
To feel the energy, move your have toward and away from the wire, this helps it connect.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: seychelles on July 29, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
huuummm.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: seychelles on July 29, 2018, 01:05:07 PM
soooory..
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: jhewitt03041976@gmail.com on July 29, 2018, 03:01:11 PM
Seychelles sir(or miss), can you show a demonstration, short vid perhaps ??
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 29, 2018, 11:08:52 PM
soooory..


You have just proven yourself to be a total ass!


I shrunk that image horizontally so it was not so wide, it uses it's whole width and if it made the lines a mess I would have bloody well fixed it (but it didn't,  not much/really).


Remove your reposted images (both mine and yours, neither serve ANY purpose).

BTW, your image posted on the first page I rightly complained about is 3000 pixels wide, you have now reposted that one at 1500 pixels while trying to show me up for posting one of 1373.

Mine is 1373!  (1627 pixels smaller)  All of if necessary!   No excess white space.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 30, 2018, 03:52:46 AM
Ok, so because icarus is building stuff, good on him, I am going to share more relivant info on the aether...


So, the coil i described at the start had more turns on one side, when icarus fixes that (and verified it creates a monopole magnetic field
 in the center when the outer coil is energized) there will be the potential for it to work.


The next coil I added him to ask is an early coil I learnt how to make, where a wire is wound around a thin core with the turns getting
 progressively closer to one another until the displacement is one wire width.


This coil move when to the tight end (the right) but it helps to have a longer turn or 2 after as shown in the diagram (and not the photo).


This coil is great for directing energy for someone to feel, indeed most people that have felt energy would have done so from such a coil.


Ok, so the next thing, which I did point out in the initial post is that this will all work probably a bunch better if you use the outer square
grid arrangement in the image I have asked people to feel, this arrangement is excellent at making the things inside of it generate aetheric energy.


So, you can print up such a grid, and lay wires over the lines, it will take you a few mins, easy peasy.


Ok, so here is the part where I said I would teach new things, what I am about to share with you might not help with feeling energy (it might,
but it might not, it makes the energy more solid but removes it's distinctiveness).


But I have been testing this and it is very very true, so listen up, this could prove CRITICAL to getting results with Free Energy/OU technology!!!


Every energy type you use increases the bandwidth of the energy aether and this increases the range of aether involved and with it the power!!!


Let me explain, so, a lot of Free Energy devices are shown running loads, motors, lights, well, sure, you want something to show it works, right?


Well, of curse, but that would be missing the point, the load and the energies it creates are critical to making the device operate!


So, consider that a Free Energy device might have high frequency mixed with low frequency EMF, and magnets, and current and voltage, those
all those combine...
But so does the light, the thermal energy, the kinetic energy...
The MRA used Piezo buzzers...
They might have high enough voltages to produce sound from spark gaps, they might produce ions and plasma.


You want to have as many different ranges of energy as you can!


I am right now feeling energy from a magnet, a battery and a candle put into the wire grid thing, the candle makes plasma, heat and light.
But there is much more energy I can feel coming from this when all 3 are in there!


Consider too Hutchison who had all manner of things by mixing a lot of different energies, EM all over the spectrum, and got a wide range of effects.


No, just having these energies by themselves won't normally do squat, Hutchison tuned them to bring in the aetheric interaction.


But if geometry is the key of the aetheric involvement, then you do not need to tune things, just provide the energies!


There is also a patent for an instantaneous communication system that uses 2 bucking magnets, a halogen bulb which is both heat (it gets VERY HOT)
and HV DC is applied plus radiofrequency, it needed all of these energies and enough intensity from all of them to work.


So if you make a Free Energy device, you want to have loads, so try and have sound, light, heat and motion and EMF covered, a motor, a bulb and a
speaker/piezo should cover that whole range.


Consider it like the Alchemists, pulling on the forces of earth and air, fire and wind.   To produce strong energies you need a range of energies.


Consider that a Joe Cell does little installed on a bench comparatively to the kinds of crazyness people have reported when in a car (HV ignition
 system, combustion, high current and EMF with alternator, kinetic/rotation, thermal).


And the few devices that I found worked that were completely passive had something like a spiral coil or a cone, something that covers a lot of
different diameters being having an essentially continuous transition.  Or like Keely where he used a bunch of wire of different lengths (in a circle,
not that they ahve to be in a circle or in order for this benefit f a wide bandwidth of energies).


Also, and Keshe states this as well, the loads, especially light and EM can additionally cycle in the system, so if the energy emitted from the bulb
is fed back into the system, all the better, indeed it won't help if totally isolated.      I am pretty sure Stubblefield's results could be replicated today
 as long as you also used an arc lamp, that makes an awesome load, light, heat, sound, plasma, EMF all in one thing, no wonder there were so many
 early Free Energy devices, and eroding electrodes also record energy states,  the ions in the air, the energy from that I am confident would couple
to his battery/coil and cycle the energy around and around until the aetheric energy and the electrical energy and the light energy becomes mixed
up as a hybrid, that's why he had light appearing to come from the hillside itself!


So if you want Free Energy/OU, you might have to do nothing more than...


Use a battery to get things started or some source of energy to kick things into gear.
Make a circuit that can trip into FE mode without increasing the current through the battery.
Have some degree of EMF/induction in the system, this is the part the aether will most likely modify.


And here are the real key parts...
Use loads as just described, ones that involve a wide range of range of energy types, the more the merrier, so incandescent is better than LED, also
be willing to just include things like magnets, candle/fire, just things used for their contribution to energy range.   Yes energies that are actually doing
things and moving are better than static energies like a magnet, but it all adds.
Think motors, Tesla Coil, Radio (anything that emits), Xenon bulb, Piezo, electrolysis (burn the gas too).
That is Bandwidth and energy processing.


Use the grid and or a coil like the outer one with turns going both ways with more turns in one direction so it creates a net magnetic field, this stimulates
whatever is inside it to generate a lot of energy.


And finally you want something the aether can conduct though, this can be wire or cylinders.


What does it cost to make that grid?  a printed sheet of paper using very little ink and a few scraps of wire, maybe 3 minutes and a bit of tape.
What does it cost to scrounge some interesting loads, many you might already have?  A bit of effort.


The way the wires are cut and conditioned and wound can make a huge difference, I have only shared a tiny bit about that.


It does not cost much, these things are not hard to do.  I can suggest more, but I hope you get the idea!


Attached grid:  I have found making the "left" square of the diamond orientation grid to be advantageous.   This creates an inwards CCW vortex.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: icarus on July 30, 2018, 03:10:36 PM
The new wire around the inner coil:
In this way ? With knotted wires terminals like in your pics ?
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 31, 2018, 12:37:30 AM
The new wire around the inner coil:
In this way ? With knotted wires terminals like in your pics ?


No, that coil was meant to be wound around a single thin wire and not the rest of the coil.


Here, this makes it clear, the wire transitions from grey to copper coloured in the image but that is just for contrast purposes, in reality all of the wire would be copper.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: icarus on July 31, 2018, 02:26:26 PM
Hi Aether22,
I rewound the inner wire (external side) with another wire; the outer coil asymmetrically (one side more turns than the other).

I tested it with a battery and then with a frequency generator from a few hz to a few mhz, square wave: nothing, I do not feel anything, nada, nichts, rien.

Maybe I'm still wrong, but I think some more information and details on the dimensions, measurements and specifications of the device would help.

Thanx
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: conradelektro on July 31, 2018, 04:50:36 PM
I can feel it!


Just tried the the "feel v3" image on my big PC screen.


MY HAIR IS STICKING OUT !


How can I get rid of this phenomenon? Be careful incase you have longer hair than me !


Greetings, Conrad



Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: onepower on July 31, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
Aether22
On a note of interest concerning your two cup experiment. The probability of your first guess was of course 50% however 10 correct choices was 0.009% and 15 correct choices falls to 0.0003%. The probability that anyone could randomly make 15 correct choices is effectively zero.

It would appear you have proven most peoples opinion to be incorrect.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on July 31, 2018, 11:55:47 PM
Hi Aether22,
I rewound the inner wire (external side) with another wire; the outer coil asymmetrically (one side more turns than the other).

I tested it with a battery and then with a frequency generator from a few hz to a few mhz, square wave: nothing, I do not feel anything, nada, nichts, rien.

Maybe I'm still wrong, but I think some more information and details on the dimensions, measurements and specifications of the device would help.

Thanx


I am not clear on if it is not correct, but I would suggest strongly for feeling purposes you wind that coil on the lead wire, I uploaded an image to spell it out, this should make the other end very suitable for feeling energy from.


I will also today or tomorrow wind the coil as I intend and take a photo after every step to remove any ambiguities.


Also, did you check that there is a magnetic pole in the middle of the coil?
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: onepower on August 01, 2018, 11:01:24 PM
Conrad
Quote
MY HAIR IS STICKING OUT !
How can I get rid of this phenomenon? Be careful incase you have longer hair than me !

Get rid of it?, it looks like you could use all the help you can get my friend and were in the same boat. First it was the receding hair line then reading glasses then that infernal ear hair. You know back when me and dad were kids I didn't think being older would be like this. It's not that bad and life is pretty relaxing without all the drama of youth.

And time marches on... time marches on.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: MasterPlaster on August 01, 2018, 11:24:06 PM
I wonder if how a coil is wound does effect its characteristics. Long ago I had some thoughts but lost the thread. Still, kept a picture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_knots
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 02, 2018, 12:10:40 AM
I wonder if how a coil is wound does effect its characteristics. Long ago I had some thoughts but lost the thread. Still, kept a picture.


I palmed a picture of knots like that and one similar looking to 7 (4) produced a tangible energy.


So I made the knot physically and without changing it's form I realized how it was working, that lead after some modification to the attached coil which creates a circular flow of energy through the wires despite the wire being anything but continuous, the energy is transferred twice per revolution through spiral join.   And the energy that does not move through the spiral in the CCW direction is sent both directions into the center.


But the main point is that energy can be made to move in a loop energy if the loop is not composed of one continuous loop of wire, this reminds me of the Kipper coil which did just that.


You could for instance make such a knot between the input and output between say the primary and secondary of a transformer as shown in an image I just made, will this transfer energy into a vortex centering on the transformer (or other component inside)?  Yes.  Will that result in Free Energy?  Maybe eventually.   And be eventually I mean that it can take time sometimes for this aetheric tech to grow the energy.


An important point to make about this is that even if it takes you an hour of fiddling to make a nice circle, get all the turns the same way (right handed) and  all that, the potential to do this with just knotting some lead wire up is the point I want to make, the down side is subtle differences make a huge difference in how a device works with the aether, the upside is that subtle intentional changes can make a regular device powerful at involving aetheric energies!   So as long as you understand how it works, it take little to have a huge impact, the direction some wire is wound or twisted, the way the end of a wire points, how a wire is cut.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 02, 2018, 02:36:57 AM
Sensitivity testing update; simply been putting it off, will get to it. It can work well, but can easily be disrupted by various details than need to be shaken out with every change, especially change of location.


But, I wanted to share some details on why Free Energy used to be a lot easier to come buy, especially long ago...


Consider Tesla, Stubblefield and some others of that day, they were around for the carbon arc lamp.


Let's consider theis technology...


If had a spark gap which has been recognized as being connected to radiant energy, literally the arc radiates light, but more than just light.
These develop UV A, B and C, UV has been associated by this kind of energy. (glass can filter out the worst of that)
They develop a lot of light, full spectrum (and can be rather energy efficient also)
They develop a lot of iR, also connected to aetheric type energy.
They develop large amounts of radio frequency interference, so they create a lot of RF energy.
They create sound, some have claimed that when a spark gap produces the right hiss stuff happens, so sound.
They produce a lot of heat, thermal energy.
They produce Bucky balls, which have been associated with this kind of aetheric energy.
They create a plasma, and ions
They create ozone, ozone has been noted as being connected to Free Energy, especially in motor systems.  Other chemical things going on also.
Better arcs included iron pyrite, this can been connected to Ormus and antigravity (Hinthorne).
Carbon itself is an element associated with aetheric energy.
The coils can create EMF, and there can be feedback between energy from the arc being absorbed into the coils, aetheric energy that radiated from the arc and reabsorbs in the coils and goes around again and again converges with physical energy.


So just that point simple thing, an electric light, and you wonder why you can't get Free Energy with LED's!


The carbon arc lamp creates broad spectrum EM (radio to UV-C) and Thermal and magnetic EMF and ions and sound and exotic materials (bucky balls, ozone).


So guess what, if you try a Stubble-field earth battery, poorly constructed, in a poorly chosen ground, or a Tesla Magnifying transmitter or similar, guess what?!  You don't get squat!


They used wire that corroded over time, but what you don't know is that wire that corrodes over time actually records aetheric energy in it's decay!  That is (part of what) what Keshe is doing with his nanocoating, any system that changes over time records aetheric energies.  There is a Russian outfit using this fact to record energy from inside pyramids into setting of epoxy, any time a unique pattern/structure is formed in an energy field it records that energy field and this can be compounded.   This is the pyramid being welded levitating, this is old broken down telegraph lines weaving along earth energy lines becoming activated with aetheric energy.  This is commutators in things line the Newman system becoming a key part, others have claimed that similar sparking contacts can produce exotic energy coatings with weird effects.


If you want Free Energy, you need to both use aetheric energy, and also have a wide range of energies as well as intense energies, the depth (intensity) and breadth (type and freq. range) of energy you embody as well as the sheer quantity all comes into play, once you have enough combined with aetheric principles working together, then you have the necessary conditions to break the laws of physics as we know them, things can be done of which Free Energy is hardly the most stunning.


Free Energy comes about with the joining of wide band high intensity energy (possible to avoid in part with collecting high bandwidth energy from environment) with aetheric energy.   This is easy to develop, but only if you know what you need to do and how to do it.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Tynoo on August 04, 2018, 03:11:15 PM
Hi aether,nice work !
My congratulations for the dedication, the effort and the courage,in sharing these subjects publicly !!

I read all your posts and I understood better the other forms of energy available on our planet,but unfortunately it does not interest to exploit a lot of people,many of them readers of these forums...!!
All my professional life I dealt with electricity and electronics and never imagined that these forms of energy existed.
 GO AHEAD MAN WITHOUT FEARS !
I built two QEG engines (Quantum Energy Generator)when they resonated and produced energy,I sat down speechless for what my eyes saw...
(someone interested, I show the videos)

All the best
Tynoo
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 04, 2018, 03:33:47 PM
Hi aether,nice work !
My congratulations for the dedication, the effort and the courage,in sharing these subjects publicly !!

I read all your posts and I understood better the other forms of energy available on our planet,but unfortunately it does not interest to exploit a lot of people,many of them readers of these forums...!!
All my professional life I dealt with electricity and electronics and never imagined that these forms of energy existed.
 GO AHEAD MAN WITHOUT FEARS !
I built two QEG engines (Quantum Energy Generator)when they resonated and produced energy,I sat down speechless for what my eyes saw...
(someone interested, I show the videos)

All the best
Tynoo


Thanks Tynoo!


It is strange how hard this stuff is to share, the interest is really not there.
I kinda get the hostility towards the aether because I had it too initially, it was not my preferred model, but largely that was because it was a damn hard field to enter with no meters, no real facts.


I would ask you then to try some of this stuff, try and images and coils, see if you can feel, or develop sensitivity to the energy.


Anyway, yes please do post the videos you made, why not.

Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Tynoo on August 04, 2018, 04:25:45 PM
Surely,I will do your coils and post the results .
I will try with various types of waves,various frequencies or up to HV.
Do you knows the Russian builders Kapanadze,Stalker,Ruslan... and their works ?

Your coils are very similar,but more completely.I believe that these Russian lords have many secrets in these constructions,if true!
Very important to know the principle,how this energy manifests itself !

To a greener and blue planet!
Greetings
Tynoo
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 05, 2018, 12:45:15 AM
Surely,I will do your coils and post the results .
I will try with various types of waves,various frequencies or up to HV.
Do you knows the Russian builders Kapanadze,Stalker,Ruslan... and their works ?

Your coils are very similar,but more completely.I believe that these Russian lords have many secrets in these constructions,if true!
Very important to know the principle,how this energy manifests itself !

To a greener and blue planet!
Greetings
Tynoo


I don't know much of the second 2 names, but Kapanadze, sure.


Yes it is very possible that this is one of the mechanisms behind such devices, assuming they are genuine at all.


It is also much the same principle behind the Tesla switch, where batteries oppose other batteries.


When you have this kind of setup it creases an intense pressure, the energy is induced to flow flow both directions, but one way wins out, this creates a radiative pressure in the aether.


You can actually do it with more than just electrical EMF, you can even do it with magnetic fields n=s s=n n=s.
By creating not just opposition >< , but opposition with a net direction ><> or >><  the opposition creates a type of aetheric radiation.


You get some of this with just say a battery and a resistor, but it is reflective of the watts expended, the key to this is that you can if done right have KW worth of aetheric radiation pressure but only a few watts of actual expended power.


A good option is batteries in opposition -+ -+ -+ +- +- +-  with an AC signal going though from a transformer, this takes much of the effect a Tesla switch has but is super simple to implement and does not drain the batteries, though honestly I don't know, it might kill them depending on how they feel about being charged and discharges alternately.


Still it is important to understand this does not create Free Energy, it merely creates a dense aetheric energy in the center of the coil, you still need to do something with that aetheric energy, another coil inside of that is a good option, those Russians are doing something tricks with coils inside of counterwound coils...

Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Tynoo on August 05, 2018, 11:21:46 AM
Hi aether !
Thank you for your wise words!!
I agree and I share your opinion,we have to understand the beginning of aetheric energie.Many people start building complex devices,without building a tesla coil and take it to the limits power.

I leave here a recent scheme of the used coils of the Russians guys (to not change the purpose of your post)
if it is possible to aether comment the coil winding and what is wrong.

Also,I leave a link to understand my story looking for free energy.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20735-tesla-motor-generator-already-running.html

Greetings
Tynoo
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Tynoo on August 05, 2018, 11:26:48 AM
..direction of the coils !
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: lancaIV on August 05, 2018, 11:56:36 AM
From quadratic transformer to round transformer to co-axial transformer to air core( transformer)                                                         To rectenna

aetheric transformer : Ranque- Hilsch tube.   cold/hot ambient.                             inductor        : Carbon Nano tube.       Electron tunneling     

Did  the pioneers from the "Aether/Ether" defind it as " gas" or " radio-ocean(Dirac,Moray)/radiation/emissions" or bodies/Korpuskel ? The source ?
 Was the first proclamation about " aether/ether" before or later the Physics acceptance and definition from
" radio-activity", alpha- beta- gamma-.....particles-rays and opto-electric bandwide in nm ?
Chain reaction and elementary decay and elementary enriching/pooring
 elements classification tabella with/-out Isotopen
elements classification tabella with/-out ORMES ( mono/ di- atomic)

Make these for the "energy receiving and transforming devices" a difference ?Free Energy and Bonded Energy


Could the Pierre Chambrin "transmutator" giving partial answers , including the experiment and result from a Laboratory of the University Vienna related Homoeopathy "potenzieren/ verduennen": a Scharlatan-fake or physical core information transformation/transmutation , effect morphing, only detectable and proveable by electron-microscopy.
Infra-red waves/radiation by free emission has no temperature ( written in the astrofoil - foil bubble webpage)
Michael Rodrigues, GB inventor Club,  " temperature"- explanation view= oscillations/ turns/ pulses                                 
Sincerely

Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 06, 2018, 01:04:59 AM
..direction of the coils !


The green conical winding diagram in the first image if I am interpreting the dot symbol correctly (never been totally clear on how to read that, as turn direction or some interpretation of relative phase) it is additive.


In the other images it looks that it is reverses in the outer turns and that would probably fit my scheme better.


Now there are a few things I would note, first is that a conical shape as shown will create a flow of aetheric energy due to the asymmetry.
The other is that colour DOES have an effect and while I do not know if colour insulation tape will have an effect on wire, and if it does will it have an effect on the level of energy needed for this, I don't know, but colour absolutely affects the aether, blue tends to accelerate energies, orange slows energies, a certain green will "make" energy and a purple colour will destroy or dematerialize energies, basically it all acts as a ramp, blue is a ramp towards faster /  orange is a ramp towards slower \  greed is a ramp that meets in the middle /\  and purple moves energies to both ends of the spectrum away from the middle \/  But you can do the same with sound, for instance if you create these shapes on an equalizer with white noise you can create these same effects, this has to do with energy chasing along the increased amplitude.


Green is basically the colour of energy materializing into this reality.


But, again this is not really just about green, this can be done over other spectrum ranges and in other energies.


There is a lot of green, and all that green helps materialize energy from the sun, and there is a lot of blue, that helps accelerate energy which if healthful.
So green and blue = good.
Orange and purple = bad.


Though it's not abut the isolated frequencies, but abut the spectral ramps that such a colour usually represents.


But, if I am coming to a point, it is this, you want to use blue coated wire or blue tape with a coil if you want energies to be accelerated...
Green if you want something to materialize.
And some orange might be ok for the part where you want power to manifest as this MIGHT help shift the energies to the physical.


If you look at Kapanadze and the early claims of successful replications the blue seemed to be ever present.

So, if you want to create a blue that accelerated on a computer screen, just have Blue 255 Green 80 Red 10   This creates a ramp, well, a lot of numbers create a ramp, but this is better than a blue just composed of blue pixels.   Printing uses a different proccess of Cyan Magenta Yellow and so this might not work so well in that colour-space.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 06, 2018, 01:13:17 AM
The component labeled "Ferrit HM40" or something in that first image does match the requirements for my outer coil, it shows what appears to be counterwound coils in series with more turns one way that the other, creating what looks like a bucking pole in the middle.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 06, 2018, 02:12:26 PM
I have just had an idea, and this might relate so designs such as those by those crazy Russians...


So, aetheric energy and electric energy both exist and both flow in wires, the amount of aetheric energy is highly varied by the source of electrical power and many other things.


But, just having both in the wire does not necessarily mean much, for the aetheric energy to become useful it must do one or more of 3 things, that is disintegrate the conventional energy till it becomes more aetheric, copy/mimic the conventional energy or meld with the conventional energy.


Broadly speaking one or some combo of those things (and, they might be more different view points on the same phenomena) happens when conventional energy in converted/manifested, the aetheric energy is transformed along with it and the 2 become in some manner mixed, once mixed Free Energy might not just happen, but with such electro-aetheric energy making OU would be as the resultant energy can be used to do all manner of extraordinary things, including asymmetric induction which will give OU.


So, how do we "proccess' such energy you should then ask?  Well, you want something that will recycle the energy again and again back and fourth, again and again.
One excellent way is with a motor/generator, indeed if it is driven independently, you can setup a situation that just shuttles energy between the stator coils and the rotor back and fourth with no real drag and no real drive...


Ideally you want more than just say a tank circuit...


And that is when I had an idea!!!  And those Russians have some something like it.


What you do is instead of having a rotor which a stator coil helps and accelerates during part of the cycle and hinders during the other half, why not a high frequency tank circuit inductor, and it can induce energy into an adjacent loose coupled coil.




High freq tank   <>   Coil with DC or lower frequency


When the HF tanks inductive voltage adds to the voltage in the low or no freq coil, it shuttles energy to the coil, but when it subtracts it steals energy from the coil, it does this potentially hundreds or thousands or millions of times a second.


The induction of the tank ads and removes energy from the coil at a high frequency, the higher the frequency (without inducing high losses due to skin effect etc) the faster energy is induced and the faster energy is processed between the 2 coils.


So this makes a lot of sense to me.  so, what is the ground about?


Well, aetheric energy is limited in a lot of sources, but correctly stimulated, the earth has a lot of aetheric energy, this could be the source of the aetheric energy, at least part of it.


I still need to test that this works, I have been trying to find east to implement yet effective ways of moving energy between components for a long time and this seems particularly perfect, a signal generator plus and amplifier to induce energy into the tank circuit, easy enough.
The DC coil might as well be air core, at least the end exposed to the HF part, it might be a good idea is the other end had a fair bit of impedance, this will inhibit the LF coil from sucking the HF tanks energy.
 
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Tynoo on August 06, 2018, 06:17:34 PM
Very good ideas ...and explanations!
The  coils images (grenade),create disturbance in the environment,(very small the working window)
when the tuning starts to make it smells like ozone !!
 But the resonance is very complicated.I concluded that there are many other secrets (ex wire colors).
I use yoke TV,or 3,small and large to increase core.
With OFC colis (oxygen free copper) the yield is more high.

I started with the engines, start resonate is wonderful to an ordinary electrician or electronics.
But I gave up because it has moving parts and makes noise,I'm going to make a video of the bigger one and rotate it slowly for you to hear,when it starts to produce energy (only pure iron)!!!
Electronic circuits are easier to make and control.

The color green and blue I will test in practice.I'm using multiple frequencies from 10 to 10,000Khz.
I got many granades built.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Fiiocolor on August 08, 2018, 10:28:33 AM
I believe that the story mentioned in this can create.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Tynoo on August 08, 2018, 01:01:41 PM
For two years I've been looking for new energie!
Yoke tv is cheap,easy to find and works well at desired frequencies.
The tests with these devices must be done, not on tables with iron,
but far from magnetic material ,like with in the picture yokes.
People make lots of mistakes..
There are many details that I am discovering,and I like to share information with people,
only in this way all progress in this area !!

The tesla coil creates the unbalance in the environment,and has to be stopped for nanoseconds
time the grenade absorbs the energy of the disturbance,
this time is given by electronic circuits
You're in the right way,has a lot of knowledge about these subjects,
everything I've been reading these two years is right !!

It takes hard work to get better results..and a lot of patience..

All the best
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 08, 2018, 02:42:09 PM
For two years I've been looking for new energie...


Whenever possible, please avoid posting images larger that say 1500 pixels horizontal at most, ideally more like 1200 or something.


It malforms the forum making it needful to scroll side to side to read each line.


Hopefully the new forum software if it ever happens will fix that.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Tynoo on August 09, 2018, 11:57:20 AM
...yes I  understand,my mistake !!!
If possible,please you or the administrator can delete my large pixel images!!!
 I publish then with the appropriate pixels.
Sorry...
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 09, 2018, 12:36:03 PM
...yes I  understand,my mistake !!!
If possible,please you or the administrator can delete my large pixel images!!!
 I publish then with the appropriate pixels.
Sorry...


Rather than bug Stefan about it, I am just going to reply so we get to the next thread faster.


Feel free to post a short reply to help use up this page.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 09, 2018, 12:37:22 PM

Rather than bug Stefan about it, I am just going to reply so we get to the next thread faster.


Feel free to post a short reply to help use up this page.


Such as, this.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 09, 2018, 12:37:53 PM
Or even this.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 09, 2018, 12:38:26 PM
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Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 09, 2018, 01:29:35 PM
Or that.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
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Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: ramset on August 09, 2018, 02:55:45 PM
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I realy do hope so ...are we to the next page yet ?
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: TinselKoala on August 09, 2018, 04:46:19 PM
..........no............









 :'(
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 10, 2018, 12:22:49 AM
Well, that did it.


To celebrate, I will tell you what I have just discovered...


I believe it explains the shape of flying saucers...


So first a little background, a circle will tend to aetherically project into a cylinder...  Which is to say the circular form is recreated into the 3rd dimension.


If there is an energy that this cylinder taps into, if the intensity of this energy varies over the length of the cylinder, it will pull energy to the point of highest intensity.


So I have found for instance that if you have a coil (circular or cylindrical) that is the right number of turns to tap into magnetism (20 or 20.25) that if there is a magnetic gradient, you will induce an aether flow in the coil.




|||||||||- coil


N
S  N
    S   N
         S   N
              S


The magnets be being stronger or closer to one end creates asymmetry...


To do this you also need an aetheric short circuit, this can come from twisting wire in a simple twist knot (like the first knot you use to tie your shoes). which aetherically acts for many energies a lot like a ring or cylinder.


But look at the Russian coil of a conical shape posted earlier by Tynoo, this would meet this criteria, it only needs to be wound on a cylinder, or to have some turns twisted as I explained to create a closed loop.


But this would also explain the conical shape of a flying saucer, I found that an alternative to making the energy more intense was simply to contain more energy at the coil, but making the right changes the coil could project a conical field and this naturally pulls energy to the widest point.
But as this would be working based on the internal energy of the form, you would ant to put a lot of energy into the form, but many accounts have the saucer with a central coil pumping intense energy.


This also makes sense of Otis T. Carr's Utron.


So, to clarify, you need either...


Some form of closed loop circle/cylinder...
And an energy with an intensity gradient over the length of that cylinder/projection (consider Paul Pantone's GEET with tubes with heat applied).


Or you need something with a conical form (physical, or a continued projection) which can have a constant energy, the gradient is created by the shape.


The conical one is a bit funny as 2 things works in opposition, the metal actually focuses it's effect towards the top, but the energy inside focuses towards the widest point.


This also explains Tesla's finding conical coils to be of interest.


But don't get hung up on any specific implementation, the principle is closed loop/cylinder plus energy gradient along length.


This also would impact on Walter Russell's conical vorticies.



Tinsel Koala, sorry I have simply not put doing a new proper test as a high enough priority to actually do it.

I have already produced evidence that moves it into the realm of very high probability it is real (I also presented conclusive pre-existing testimonial evidence), and I am not trying to seek some "skeptic approved" verified status, quite the opposite.
I only want to seek the attention of those who have an open mind and a tendency to experiment and honestly what I have presented should be enough for such a person to take interest.

For anyone who is believes I operate in bad faith or who thinks me crazy, no amount of convincing is likely to turn them into a productive experimenter IMO, someone operating from that level of closed mindedness and cynicism is unsuited.   Still, I will do a test with 10 cups and film it and do a number of rounds assuming the rounds are successful.

P.S.  I counted and each page has 21 posts, this is including the Ad posts, length of post does not not matter.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 13, 2018, 04:23:40 AM
Ok, my recent discovery (well, it has been reinforced, I got the first hints a few years ago) has been that the bandwidth of the aetheric energy is important.


One specific and simple way to increase the bandwidth has become increasingly apparent.  Also relivant is that this employs what i term foreign conduction, when an energy flows through a material it was not liberated from, it moves much faster an energy native to that material.


Anyway, what I have found is that different metals used for the conductors of a device (actually, electrical energy does not have to be conducted through all of them, as long as aetheric energy is) can increase the bandwidth of the aetheric energy, and let's look at this from a historical perspective.


So Let's consider Louis Rota, you might not know much about him, but he achieved antigravity, and he achieved Free Energy, this was by burying bundled slabs of different metals, and conducting this compound aetheric energy for various uses.


Another early example is Keely, he used wire consisting of a core of one metal with to outer layers of other metals, I think Platinum was one of them, but the point is this might has been ideal, sure, but it is not IMO necessary to use anything so expensive, the point is a tri-metal wire of key.


Then yesterday for the first time every I came across something I had missed hearing about before, Tesla's Tri-metal generator, it consists of Aluminium, Iron and wire.


Now let's consider Stubblefield, like ROTA he buried metals, but just 2, copper and iron, and with this he lit a carbon (another conductor, plus plasma, a 4th).


Now to be clear I am not saying that anything more that one material is used in a circuit Free Energy results, rather what I am saying is that by using different metals, if the design is suitably engaging the aether and the connections support aether flowing in the circuit effectively, and if other components are present, then the metals used can help widen the bandwidth.


I also found that winding a wire many times around another wire and having then connect in parallel creates a high bandwidth effect even with a single metal as used by Markovitch.   And Keely used different length wires to tune into a high bandwidth.  And the loads used also contribute, again I would use John Hutchison as an example.   Tesla's Pancake coil also resonates with a wide range of energies.


Another example of this multi metal thing is Lakhovsky's MWO, the different rings were made of different metals.


I have also in the past identified a lot of evidence that some designs pull energy from either air, water, glass or some transparent material, Indeed I think Tesla's glass bottle based capacitors used at one point might have had an impact in some key results he got.
Another example is Les Brown, he used a pancake spiral, wound out of wool IIRC, and when he connected this to a Copper wire he got a huge discharge of energy that threw him violently across the room in his pyramid shaped home.


Hendershot combining his coil (copper) and capacitor (Aluminium) and coffee can (steel) would also fit!


We cold look at Swiss ML's use of Aluminium cans along with iron wire in one part...


Or what about Dotto, with his Copper ring with an allow segment.
Or Searl with concentric ring of different materials!


I have found that a Zinc wire can easily be made from cutting the Zinc can from a "heavy duty"  AA or other sized cheap battery.
I bought some Aluminium wire used for welding affordably, and picked up some even cheaper copper coated steel wire, sure enough these things increase the energy.    I will pick up some tinned copper wire also.  I don't think 3 is the limit, I think 2 works, and 4 works better.


Batteries, especially mixing different types in parallel/series might also increase the range of energies, but again with electrical circuits i recommend connecting the negative end of an otherwise unconnected battery.


I am not saying that this is a necessary condition, and it certainly isn't a sufficient condition but it helps, and it is easy.  Add in a carbon arc lamp and a Piezo buzzer, maybe a motor and or something HV as "loads" and the bandwidth of the energy will be further increased.
But this only increases the bandwidth of the aetheric functionality if propperly implemented buy itself it won't produce Free Energy or anything even interesting, this works on aetheric,not electrical current.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 13, 2018, 04:49:10 AM
Oh, and Hans Coler used Silver and Iron in series with copper wire.


It is also worth noting that Telegraph operators, sometimes used grounds of different metals and a single wire, because the grounds used different metals a voltage was created (earth batteries), but many of these telegraphs demonstrated Free Energy and also signals over broken wires and other indications of aetheric energy, well the source of the aether is not unclear, that is the telluric currents in the earth, but the different metals helps to increase the energy bandwidth.


Tesla also used an elaborate grounding system which used I believe both steel and copper an minimum.
He also used an aluminium tube mentioned in his magnifying transformer patent connecting between the coil and the upper electrodes.


Steven Marks used copper and iron wire.


Hubbard, Perrigo and Bedini used iron wires/nails/welding rods as cores (more suited to coupling to a wire I think), the energy from this might have coupled into the copper wires, as might really and open magnetic circuit device (Adams motor and many others), including U shaped magnetic cores (used by too many to list, but included Moray).


Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor, as well as the air arc, not sure what he used for his screen around the tube, but this might have been a 3rd.


So now, going back to my original proposed coil, add in other wires, include the negative pole of a second battery (split the positive ad Ed Gray said (don't connect it)).

Also Stiffler with a super low voltage current from his Thermal Magnetic Battery TMB that despite it's low voltage would have a bright blue spark of not insignificant length on breaking a circuit!   not only might the energy of the plates (Tin) be added, but the ferrite magnets which the current somehow passed through (along with glad wrap and cardboard/balsa).

Also Sweet used an Aluminium cage, the energy of which could have entered the coils along with the energy of the ferrite magnet.

Indeed it might interestingly be fewer devices that just used copper and closed magnetic circuits than those that plausibly implemented this principle on mixed energies.  Certainly with the early pioneers, multi metals was abundantly clear, Rota, Stubblefield and Tesla, it was quite marked!
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 13, 2018, 08:02:07 AM
Look at this image drawn of Henry Moray's device, there are 2 metal bars, one labeled Lead, the other Silver (hard to make out, but it's Silver).


So that's a funny "coincidence" no?


The person muses over what purpose 2 sizable parallel bars of metal could have, despite it somewhat resembling the burred bars of Louis Rota!


Also if this diagram is right (why wouldn't it be?  it was some witnesses attempt to understand Moray's device after witnessing it) and if it is used as I propose (what other use could 2 parallel bars of metal like that POSSIBLY have?) then this suggests that indeed, as per ROTA and Stubblefild, a fair mass can or should be employed of these metals, he might have used lead solider, but a huge mass of lead was more suited!


So this now encompasses all the early inventors!
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Belfior on August 13, 2018, 11:33:52 AM
In "Evolution of Matter" https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Matter-Classic-Reprint/dp/1332011764

le Bon comes to the conclusion, that electricity is effect cause by radioactive dissimilation of matter and that everything is radioactive. Something like steel radiates very slowly compared to uranium, but use a catalyst like shine a light on a metal plate and it will start radiating. He also found out that by combining materials you can make elements react violently even if they seem stable otherwise. This made him think that electric effect could be also gotten without equal power in.

He also says radiation will render air conductive, so there are ions there. What if you use a spark gap covered with bismuth or cover copper coils with molten bismuth?
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Belfior on August 13, 2018, 11:37:42 AM
a good place to start investigating Moray so you don't start from scratch

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/smoreland.html

Gustave le Bonn seems to be on his reading list too...
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 13, 2018, 12:25:26 PM
In "Evolution of Matter" https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Matter-Classic-Reprint/dp/1332011764 (https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Matter-Classic-Reprint/dp/1332011764)

le Bon comes to the conclusion, that electricity is effect cause by radioactive dissimilation of matter and that everything is radioactive. Something like steel radiates very slowly compared to uranium, but use a catalyst like shine a light on a metal plate and it will start radiating. He also found out that by combining materials you can make elements react violently even if they seem stable otherwise. This made him think that electric effect could be also gotten without equal power in.

He also says radiation will render air conductive, so there are ions there. What if you use a spark gap covered with bismuth or cover copper coils with molten bismuth?


I have Bismuth, I would be tempted to add it as a block as Moray did in that example.


At any rate, whatever criticisms anyone might have about Moray and radio transmitters, it is irrelevant when one considered that Moray's other achievements, all very soundly in the realm of aetheric sciences.


He also used radionic like tuning to pickup conversations.


He is not dealing with regular energy, Steven Marks too might have cheated by being near megavolt lines, and others might have found similar such advantages, there is a speculation about the Kipper motor and Microwaves...
And Stifler I believe had some big electrical gear near him.


But, all of that is not about tapping actual conventional energy, but rather the aetheric side of that energy, much like John Hutchisons effects!


Apparently Bedini had one design work great near a radio transmitter.
I have a friend who gets success that I am pretty sure is largely related to his ham radio transmitter!


The point is that these things add a component to the aetheric energy background, they add a component...
Combine with ions in the air, also maybe ozone, this makes for an environment that is very suitable for this kind of work!


It excites the air, the environment around the experiment and reduces what the experiment needs to provide to get results.


As is the use of Radium, which again John Hutchison used a radioactive sample.


So radium, ions, ozone, maybe HV, RF and other electrical emissions...  Multi metals, Loads creating vibration (Piezo, Keely/Davidson/Wootan), light (Carbon arc lamp), motor...  Ground, other aetheric principles... = Success.


In other words this stuff needs a wide bandwidth of different energy signatures before it begins to have real physical effects, it also needs to cycle energy between components as this processes the aetheric and the electrical energies together.


But, aetherically/radionically, everything does indeed radiate, but that is not hard particle radiation.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: nelsonrochaa on August 13, 2018, 01:43:28 PM

I have Bismuth, I would be tempted to add it as a block as Moray did in that example.


At any rate, whatever criticisms anyone might have about Moray and radio transmitters, it is irrelevant when one considered that Moray's other achievements, all very soundly in the realm of aetheric sciences.


He also used radionic like tuning to pickup conversations.


He is not dealing with regular energy, Steven Marks too might have cheated by being near megavolt lines, and others might have found similar such advantages, there is a speculation about the Kipper motor and Microwaves...
And Stifler I believe had some big electrical gear near him.


But, all of that is not about tapping actual conventional energy, but rather the aetheric side of that energy, much like John Hutchisons effects!


Apparently Bedini had one design work great near a radio transmitter.
I have a friend who gets success that I am pretty sure is largely related to his ham radio transmitter!


The point is that these things add a component to the aetheric energy background, they add a component...
Combine with ions in the air, also maybe ozone, this makes for an environment that is very suitable for this kind of work!


It excites the air, the environment around the experiment and reduces what the experiment needs to provide to get results.


As is the use of Radium, which again John Hutchison used a radioactive sample.


So radium, ions, ozone, maybe HV, RF and other electrical emissions...  Multi metals, Loads creating vibration (Piezo, Keely/Davidson/Wootan), light (Carbon arc lamp), motor...  Ground, other aetheric principles... = Success.


In other words this stuff needs a wide bandwidth of different energy signatures before it begins to have real physical effects, it also needs to cycle energy between components as this processes the aetheric and the electrical energies together.


But, aetherically/radionically, everything does indeed radiate, but that is not hard particle radiation.
Hi , before you start play with bismut and high voltage take a radiation detector near you for your own protection.
The transmutation of bismut  could be very  danger to your health .  Is only a advice :)

Cumpliments

Nelson Rocha
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 14, 2018, 12:53:27 AM
I did a test with a compound coil, this was 4 turns of aluminium wire,  4 turns of steel wire, 4 turns of copper wire.


The wires were not connected in any way and 2 of the wires were insulated, so there was no conductive contact between the wires, never the less, this worked!   They are merely inductively linked, except not power is applied.


So this applies to Hendershot, and Hubbard, both of which wound coils on steel cylinders.


Also the Tesla switch  might seem potentially not included, until we recall it has 4 large batteries, likely lead acid, so lead plates, and not just a token amount but really a large amount of lead in series.


So we have:


Rota (big blocks of many metals)
Stubblefield  (main component a bi-metallic coil)
Keely (Tri metal wire basis of work)
Daniel McFarland Cook
Tesla (Tri metal generator)
Moray (2 Big blocks of lead and silver)
Hubbard (Steel Cylinder)
Hendershot (Steel Cylinder)
Coler (Silver and Iron rods)
Tesla Switch (many Lead acid batteries)
Searl (Concentric layered rings of various materials)  Probably also apply to Hamel
Swiss ML/Paul Bauman (Aluminium and iron wire)
Bedini
Perrigo
Steven Marks (Iron wire in coil)
Lakovsky's MWO (not Free Energy, but aetheric energy and health, used rings of different metals)
Dotto (antigravity and health, used ring of copper and copper-Nickle Alloy)


There are no doubt more, this could plausibly apply to the Russians, Kapanadze as well, buried metal, cylinders used as cores...


Is is not amazing that something that very few people include in their unsuccessful experiments (significant amounts of different metals/conductors) just seems to be involved in a huge number of the more impressive claims?


And in the case of Rota and Moray, the inclusion of metals seems very clearly pointed and could serve really no other purpose, both used them in bulk!


So simple, so easy to include in experiments, so likely to be significant and yet basically never tried because few here are students of the connections between the historical Free Energy and other fringe claims.


I can think of other examples, a person who reportedly made paperclips vanish with a high frequency circuit and a steel loop, so that is steel plus copper,  Oh, and welding a Pyramid, that's steel plus Copper.  What about Howard Menger, his coil might have interacted with the carbon rod (might have conducted through it as well), but it should also have likely interacted with the Aluminium disk, and same goes for Hinthorne (Aluminium disk and coils vanished).     So, there you have it, no, by itself mixing metals (especially insufficiently) won't give you Free Energy or Antigravity.  But if you do this along with other guide principles, then your odds of getting Free Energy increase hugely!


A LOT of Free Energy devices BTW don't have a connection to the grid even to start them off, and a lot don't have a connection to the earth, even for ones that tap earth energy a part of the circuit regularly floats!   So having at least part of a circuit floating is another well worn correlation.


I remember a Free Energy device, let's see if it fits this description!


An excerpt from info ion C. Earl Ammann:



He placed some steel bars on a work table and picked up a coil which looked like a loose coupler. After placing the coils on the steel rods he touched the opposite terminal. The bell rang with great force, and there was quite a spark, too.


I picked up the coils to make sure there was no contact with other appliances. I could see right through them. There was no battery inside. The bell rang just as vigorously. The wire was iron.


In the basement Earl had what he called an Activator Transformer, the size of two fists, which had to be within 10 miles of the radius of the generator coils. The activator was not in contact with any visible wires or appliances. It was activated by the electric currents which surge around the earth and activate the compass needle. By cutting into these currents, earl said, we can obtain unlimited power.


A year later Earl demonstrated his Cosmo Electric Generator in Denver. He had placed two copper spheres on the front fenders of his car in place of the headlights. From these copper spheres he obtained enough power to drive that old jalopy all over Denver as reported in the Denver Post at the time.


So, we see Iron wire was used, but he also used Copper Spheres, but, a bell was made to ring, now his coils were iron, but the bell which not more or a reciprocating electric motor would have been standard, and wound no doubt with Copper wire!!!


So there we have it again, copper and iron wire most highly probably combined in series!
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 14, 2018, 02:56:19 AM
I did a test to see if coils wound around wires/rods picked up their energy, this would apply to Hubbard (already has the cylinders going for it), Bedini (used chopped up welding rods as cores), Perrigo (used nails), Daniel McFarland Cook (iron rods) and probably many more.


I don't believe this would apply to closed magnetic circuits, or magnetic circuits that basically don't support effective aether flows, which would include probably most-all regular transformers.


I also think this likely works much better with round wire/rod rather than flat bar, but that is just a guess.


Sure enough, a bundle of different wire types proved better than a bundle of copper wire wound with a copper wire!


So rods/wires as cores and cylinders both check out, I am yet to check though that cylinders that are cut so as not to present a short circuit work, but I assume it must.


 But this general discovery also applies to a startling array of weird experiments, both Free Energy and beyond, this actually applies to at least 8 independent cases of claimed invisibility (and possibly another 3 of which steel and copper were used but I am not sure if the energies combined), all combines steel and copper conduction, I had previously noted the use of steel, but I had not noted that all of these circuit actually were dual steel and copper! (or in one case maybe lead and steel).


If you are interested in the cases of invisibility I can cover them, but most use steel and copper combines, and that's not counting the likes of the mythical Philadelphia experiment which it would also apply to.   Actually another involved a guy vanishing (witnessed) near antennas, Antennas are not made of Copper often and employ Aluminium and steel structure, but are connected to Copper wire, therefore this could be a 9th or maybe 12 example!


Of course other things have to be just right for these results to occur, but can you see how easily this detail is overlooked but it heavily involved in so many cases of Free Energy and weirdness, and when not present there are substitutes to the effect such as multi frequencies and energies (John Hutchison) and different lengths/Pancake coils (Tesla, Keely), amazingly these principles show up where this multi metal thing appears to be lacking!





Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 14, 2018, 05:10:49 AM
I have twice tried to make a post that contains info on correlations on how Conical Coils, Cones, Converging lines/wires, Circular flat discs, wires of different length have been used many times and that some of these devices have produced modest anomalies even with no input power because they are Antennas that intercept a wide range of energies from nature, and both times the post was wiped out because of an annoying mistake!  This is one of the ways to high bandwidth energy.

So, I am just going to include the images and if anyone wants to ask me more, go ahead, also I will add one thing on that subject...

Not only have Pancake coils been used by Tesla, Les Brown, Coler, Markovitch and others (weird story about a pancake Caduceus coil and invisibility from one researcher (Van Tassel)...


But pancake coils have been found carved on rocks around the world, I think for this same reason.


In addition, I thought of another example of Bi-Metallic conduction...


Stan Deyo mentiones the "Wedding Cake" Antigravity experiment, thing is that used iron coils, and yet is connected up to regular copper circuitry to power it, so here we AGAIN have steel and copper, also present in HHO cells, a lot of which produce a product that seems to defy the laws of physics.



THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE!


Update: I thought "what about the "Lockridge" device?"  Well, it uses I presume copper wire, but it has 2 sets of Carbon brushes, and as such fulfills the criteria, so might the magnetic field leaking, indeed most any all electric DC type motors for these reasons are likely prone to go OU, likely why they have appeared to do so, so many times.


If you aren't impressed with the evidence for this bi-tri-quad-metal conductor correlation, then you are pretty cynical, or you haven't read or understood the evidence I have presented!    I have not even come close to exhausting the evidence for it and combined with the other methods to achieve the same it might well cover every successful device that has ever done something odd!


In addition, further tests have shown that a split cylinder (so it does not act as a huge Eddy current liability) still works to transfer the energy (split rings/tubes resonate with energy, might even help or be maybe critical).
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 15, 2018, 12:55:06 AM
I should add, Split rings used as cores for coils has been heavily discussed before and found to be interesting and relivant!
I think also connected to some Russian Kapanadze like designs.


But it will only work propperly if the metal is not Copper, it must be something different!


I also tried split rings of plastic and glass, this worked also.

Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 16, 2018, 08:06:40 AM
The silence if deafening!


I would note that this is not due to radioactivity as earlier proposed, sure radioactivity can be induced, but that's not what is happening here.


Anyway I tested and found that indeed the mass of the metals is absolutely relivant!


I also found a preferred embodiment as attached, where this fits into a circuit is up to the designer, but one example is Moray's circuit






Additionally; Curious, there are still 21 messages (including ads) per page, but somehow posts from the previous page have pushed into this page?!   Have the most numbers changed?  Seemingly they must have, more ads maybe? (ads also have a post number).

Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Bob Smith on August 16, 2018, 04:50:00 PM

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Aether22,
Are you saying that there is a measurable potential difference in copper wire with the dissimilar metals in this configuration?

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Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 17, 2018, 01:05:58 AM
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Aether22,
Are you saying that there is a measurable potential difference in copper wire with the dissimilar metals in this configuration?

[size=78%]Bob[/size]


Bob, it's NOT about potential difference.


Let me explain, there is ample evidence through all the claims of Free Energy and other fringe physics experiments that shows that these effects develop together, in devices plagued by impossibilities, containing an energy besides conventional electromagnetism.  And because it is not conventional electromagnetism, using principles for conventional electromagnetism is assured to lead to failure!


I have found how to feel and affect the aether, but the challenge has been getting it to have physical effects,  My current insight is that devices that I believe to be aetheric that have physical effects have properties that I refer to as "High Bandwidth".


My theory is that when aetheric energy (which happily flows through wires and is liberated by many wires and batteries) has a wide enough range of energy types, it begins to affect physical energies.


Louis Rota Buried large parallel laminations of different metals in the ground (but insulated for any conductive connection) and from these metals came an energy that was not just electrical (in his own words) but which dis amazing things such as make an arc lamp glow.


Now, Stubblefield made a coil with parallel bifilar turns of iron and copper wire, and from this coil he got an energy that was not just electrical that made a carbon arc lamp glow.


Now, Moray used a ground and an Antenna and used large parallel bars of Lead and Silver in his experiment according to one witness, thing is using large bars of metals in this fashion serves no conventional purpose, so this is compelling reason to think this was the cause.


There are other things that should lead to high bandwidth energy, one is a multitude of loads, Tesla always shows lights and motors running from the loads of his generators/receivers, maybe that was needed?


One is Pancake or conical coils, or cone.


But it also makes sense that if we can receive radio through the air or ground, that ground and aerial antennas are high bandwidth!


Spark gaps and arc lamps can make a lot of RFI as well as a wide flat bandwidth of light from UVC down to low infra-red and heat.


So, if we include these other ways of achieving high bandwidth, we see that all of these more famous cases actually used ore than just multi metals, they used Pancake coils, arc's, grounds and more!


Indeed, thinking about it, I am pretty sure that to a large degree the level of achievement is closely related to how well and how many of these bandwidth expanding things they included!  (with the exception of conduction through iron, that seems to be worth a lot!)


So yes, if you join metals and apply heating or cooling on either side of the joins you will get a voltage, and logically if such voltages occur at every temperature as long as they temperature is different, then when the same it means that the voltage exists but is opposing, so there is going to be some small positive and negative voltage, and that might have some useful effect, but it is NOT the point, but it doesn't hurt either!


Number of Asterisks is the number of high bandwidth elements used.


Louis Rota ***  (ground, arcs, multi metal)
Stubblefield ***  ditto
Tesla ****  ditto plus pancake/conical coils
Keely  *** multi length wire fan, multi metal, multitude of different tuned components
Moray **
Hubbard * (maybe **)
Hendershot **  (multi freq tanks)
Coler **
Tesla Switch ** (noisy switching, also one version was run at a radio station)
Searl *** (Multi diameters, multi materials and multiple number sets)
Hamel ** (Aluminium, steel and likely ferrite energy mixing, also cones/vorticies are multi freq)
Ed Grey, **
Perrigo ** (multi metal, and overly complex array with different angles that would likely be high aetheric bandwidth)
Lakhovsky MWO *** (this is the only one that has no Free Energy, however it still suggests there are energetic reasons for these principles.
Kapanadze *** Buried steel ground counts as 2, noisy arc counts as 1.
John Hutchison * A multitude of different electrical gear with different tunings.


This analysis becomes less fruitful with other more recent more marginal cases of Free Energy, is this BECAUSE they don't use these methods???


So, high bandwidth (which is a term to mean complex, many different energies, multi spectral) is about creating a flow of aether that involves a wide range of different energies in order to manifest a more compelling and complete manipulation of the material world.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 17, 2018, 01:14:20 AM
“If At First the Idea Is Not Absurd, Then There Is No Hope for It” - Albert Einstein


If anyone doubts this idea, I would like to challenge them to find something that is done in successful Free Energy devices of which we have the most confidence in, and not done much or at all in less successful attempts?


If this is just a coincidence (despite the case that with Rota and Moray it is too plainly embodied to have any other explanation) then surely you can find other coincidences just as compelling?


The amazing thing is that to a very large extent, the experiments that include a lot of these and embody it better have stronger results than those that embody it more weakly!   The exception being some cases of current through iron which I can think of many cases where that has proven to do amazing things!

Also, even if you do not buy the explanation for these design principles, does not mean that you have to reject the correlations themself.

I have looked for correlations for a long time (24 years), I have found none as compelling as this!
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: Bob Smith on August 17, 2018, 05:44:34 PM

Bob, it's NOT about potential difference.

My theory is that when aetheric energy (which happily flows through wires and is liberated by many wires and batteries) has a wide enough range of energy types, it begins to affect physical energies.

Louis Rota Buried large parallel laminations of different metals (but insulated for any conductive connection) and from these metals came an energy that was not just electrical (in his own words) but which dis amazing things such as make an arc lamp glow.

Stubblefield ...coil with parallel bifilar turns of iron and copper wire, and from this coil he got an energy that was not just electrical that made a carbon arc lamp glow.

Moray ...ground and an Antenna and used large parallel bars of Lead and Silver in his experiment according to one witness...

...other things that should lead to high bandwidth energy, one is a multitude of loads, Tesla always shows lights and motors running from the loads of his generators/receivers, maybe that was needed?

...Pancake or conical coils, or cone.

...ground and aerial antennas are high bandwidth!

So, if we include these other ways of achieving high bandwidth, we see that all of these more famous cases actually used ore than just multi metals, they used Pancake coils, arc's, grounds and more!

Indeed, thinking about it, I am pretty sure that to a large degree the level of achievement is closely related to how well and how many of these bandwidth expanding things they included! (with the exception of conduction through iron, that seems to be worth a lot!)

Number of Asterisks is the number of high bandwidth elements used.

Louis Rota ***  (ground, arcs, multi metal)
Stubblefield ***  ditto
Tesla ****  ditto plus pancake/conical coils
Keely  *** multi length wire fan, multi metal, multitude of different tuned components
Moray **
Hubbard * (maybe **)
Hendershot **  (multi freq tanks)
Coler **
Tesla Switch ** (noisy switching, also one version was run at a radio station)
Searl *** (Multi diameters, multi materials and multiple number sets)
Hamel ** (Aluminium, steel and likely ferrite energy mixing, also cones/vorticies are multi freq)
Ed Grey, **
Perrigo ** (multi metal, and overly complex array with different angles that would likely be high aetheric bandwidth)
Lakhovsky MWO *** (this is the only one that has no Free Energy, however it still suggests there are energetic reasons for these principles.
Kapanadze *** Buried steel ground counts as 2, noisy arc counts as 1.
John Hutchison * A multitude of different electrical gear with different tunings.

So, high bandwidth (which is a term to mean complex, many different energies, multi spectral) is about creating a flow of aether that involves a wide range of different energies in order to manifest a more compelling and complete manipulation of the material world.


Aether22,
Great explanation. Hope you don't mind my highlights and selective citing.
I am encouraged by your take on this, and will pursue it further.
You mention multiple loads (in association with diverse elements to conduct aetheric flow). What is it that a load accomplishes in this kind of scenario (rhetorical question)??  The load essentially establishes a kind of gradient which stresses the aether and facilitates or encourages aetheric transmutation, if you like, into useable charge.
I have found that large resistor - say 5 Watts - also helps in this process. It's as though the resistor becomes a kind of gate of transmutation that changes aetheric flow into useable charge. In this sense, the open circuit (i.e.. open to the aether) becomes load-driven:  the greater the load (and resultant aetheric gradient) the greater the flow of aether into the circuit and its transmutation into useable charge to do work.


I don't know if you'd concur with me to this point, but I have a question for you:


Do you believe that frequency plays a role in this entire dynamic?
If dissimilar metals each resonate at their own respective frequencies, is their close proximity actually going to produce a kind of capacitive heterodyning effect, which allows the aether to enter the circuit?


Thanks for sharing your insights.
Bob
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 18, 2018, 01:57:10 AM

Aether22,
Great explanation. Hope you don't mind my highlights and selective citing.
I am encouraged by your take on this, and will pursue it further.
You mention multiple loads (in association with diverse elements to conduct aetheric flow). What is it that a load accomplishes in this kind of scenario (rhetorical question)??  The load essentially establishes a kind of gradient which stresses the aether and facilitates or encourages aetheric transmutation, if you like, into useable charge.
I have found that large resistor - say 5 Watts - also helps in this process. It's as though the resistor becomes a kind of gate of transmutation that changes aetheric flow into useable charge. In this sense, the open circuit (i.e.. open to the aether) becomes load-driven:  the greater the load (and resultant aetheric gradient) the greater the flow of aether into the circuit and its transmutation into useable charge to do work.


I don't know if you'd concur with me to this point, but I have a question for you:


Do you believe that frequency plays a role in this entire dynamic?
If dissimilar metals each resonate at their own respective frequencies, is their close proximity actually going to produce a kind of capacitive heterodyning effect, which allows the aether to enter the circuit?


Thanks for sharing your insights.
Bob


You highlighted a typo where I typed "ore" but meant "more".


Do you recommend I use highlighting to make the main points stand out?


I'm glad you will Pursue this further, I think it is a smashing correlation.



"You mention multiple loads (in association with diverse elements to conduct aetheric flow). What is it that a load accomplishes in this kind of scenario?"


To answer your question despite it's Rhetorical nature, the loads do 2 things I believe, but, MAYBE 3 things or more.
The main one I am promoting right now is to consider each material, energy, frequency as an increase to the aetheric energy bandwidth of the aetheric energy coursing through the device.


Another one which is relivant and might be connected is what I term "Processing", this is where the aetheric and conventional energy is for instance a wire are both transformed in the same location, and that by doing this the 2 energies become mingled.


I have 3 theories, which might be different perspectives of one thing, or might all be occurring, one is disintegration of the physical energy by the aether, another is that the aetheric energy begins to mimic the conventional energy, and the final is a hybridization, where the 2 energies mix and the physical energy becomes transformed.


But, whatever happens, the physical and aetheric energy should be re-absorbed and re-emitted again and again I believe it become progressively more physical.
I know for a fact this DOES happen.


It is also on my radar that potentially something occurs when conventional energy shows a high degree of entropy (such as with a heater) that the aetheric energy might invert that into Extropy.


However, there is also an effect whereby much as you state, aetheric energy passed through a resistor amplifies the energy of the field it is in, this is a curious effect I have observed, but no conventional energy is needed for this effect to be observed.
I have found for instance that some patterns, or interesting shapes or geometries, while they seem inactive by themselves, placed near an aetheric resistor they increase the energy hugely, one such example is a Mobius strip, or, the likes of the Sri Yantra or the Flower of life.


This seems to do 2 things, energy is radiated and maybe even pulled from the form placed near it, but the energy manifesting, radiating from the resistor is structured by this field, i need to understand this better, also interesting things happen with a square grid or other tessellation.


As for you large resistors, is this with electrical power flowing through? (e.g.  5 watts of of electrical power?)
Or with just an aetheric power?



"Do you believe that frequency plays a role in this entire dynamic?"


I believe that there are some frequencies that are 'Special".
I believe that higher frequencies means more self inductance with less resistance, this means that circuits "proccess" (transform energy between potential and magnetic field and back) at a faster rate and this improves results until a point where the losses from too high frequencies become too great, this depends on the quality of the circuit it is harder to make a circuit that is good at say 500khz than 20khz and really hard at MHZ frequencies.


Also, Frequencies in the sense of multiple frequencies absolutely make a difference, John Hutchison is the prime example of what multiple frequency spectrum energy can do, this stimulates more bandwidth of aetheric energy.




"If dissimilar metals each resonate at their own respective frequencies, is their close proximity actually going to produce a kind of capacitive heterodyning effect, which allows the aether to enter the circuit?"


I had to look up Heterodyning actually, for those like myself, it basically refers to a beat frequency which is the difference from mixing of 2 higher frequencies.


I have no answer really, there is so much unknown, each element might be a basket of frequencies (if that is even the way the energy manifests), and we don't know how close they are even if each element has a distinctive frequency.  And I'm not sure if beat frequencies would make aetheric energies or aether enter the circuit.   But it is easy enough to test electrically to see what a beat frequency would cause.


But another interesting thing I have found to occur with the aether is that if you have 2 frequencies displaced in space, it creates the frequencies between in the space separating the 2.    For instance if you have 1khz and 2khz signals, in the space between aetherically you will get every value in between.   This works with frequencies, colours, numbers, and more.


So, I have not thought to do this with elements, or really to apply this to this high bandwidth thing yet, but I should try it, I have been meaning to.


Ok, so I just tried it, a short length and a long length either side of a of a longer bar, this created a high bandwidth energy (which feels very dense).


So, this might mean picking 2 elements, say Aluminium (14)  and Lead (82) either side of Carbon (6), the idea is to choose something not within that range to sit in between.


Ok, that's easy enough to try, but I'll use Bismuth (83) as I have that on hand...


Yup, that worked very well!


So, you can create a very high bandwidth by using 2 different metals either side of a main conductor!
Maybe the Silver and Lead in Moray's design were not stuck directly together, but sandwiched a copper conductor?


This would capture numbers between 47 to 82, which is to say those values should be created as an aetheric signal between those elements.


I have 2 signal generators, and one can make 2 frequencies, so I can create 3 different frequencies, and by using square waves i have create harmonics, so I should test this as well, including used this spectrum effect.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
Post by: aether22 on August 21, 2018, 03:13:57 AM
One experiment I did lead to the breaking of glass...


Thinking about it in this multi material sense...


I used Alnico and Neodymium magnets, they each contain multiple elements...
Also, there is the energy of the magnetic fields...


That by being held a certain way created a beam that was connected into a chunk of Bismuth...


The Bismuth was connected to a bit over 100v worth of batteries, those 23A 12v batteries in series.
So, there are the metals involved with the batteries as well...
And some copper wire that was used...


This energy then discharged through the air (the energy of the air does get involved, I have in the b=past confirmed that).
And into the glass which it broke, so we can add glass.


So that is a huge mix of metals and other materials, this energy would have quite a decent bandwidth!
Plus, I was part of the circuit in this case...


So the aetheric energy was quite complex!


Another one that occurred to me is the Rosemary Ainslie circuit, the electromagnet is wound with a ton of resistive wire, Nichrome, so Nickle, Chrome and typically Iron, in addition to Copper.
Title: Re: Aetheric transformer/inductor
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