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Title: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM
IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?

This seems to me a great technology revolution! As if these guys are extremely gifted engineers! Please look at the two links below:

https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf

https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf

The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.

Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.

The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.

Alternatively, you can run a search in Google for the phrase "HOW BARON MUNCHAUSEN CAN LIFT HIMSELF INTO THE AIR BY PULLING HIMSELF UP BY HIS OWN HAIR" (with capital letters).

You can contact the inventors at randdgroup34@gmail.com.

And most important, in order to understand the text and the related Figs.1-6, you have to be an expert in the field of theoretical and applied mechanics

My friends and I are extremely curious about the opinions of the colleagues, who are members of the world community, related to reactionless propulsion systems, alternative sources of energy and other non-standard technology problems.

What do you think about the experiment described in the links above? As if everything seems to be perfect? As if this is really a reactionless propulsion system and/or a perpetual motion machine?

Besides these guys suggest another technology revolution. Their  second technology breakthrough increases drastically the distance travelled by a standard electric car on a single charge. And what do you think about this electric technology? 

Eagerly looking forward to your answer.

Best regards

George Sen
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on August 26, 2018, 11:42:09 AM
I do not see any comments. No one here is interested in reactionless drive?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: aether22 on August 28, 2018, 07:55:40 AM
I do not see any comments. No one here is interested in reactionless drive?


It's more a case of "wait, so I have to read a bunch of low contrast handwriting and math that might go over my head, and the only alternative is some meaningless cryptic images that by themselves explain nothing"...




Also, if you break the conservation of momentum, then you break the conservation of energy either way.


Also, finally, most attempts to violate mathematical laws with math fall flat, they are mistakes, errors.

Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: telecom on August 28, 2018, 11:02:46 PM
have you actually tried the experiment?
Generally speaking, mv of the reaction is a vector, and if the direction is changed on the opposite, i.e. not against the original force, but with it, the reaction can be made to
double the original force.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 01, 2018, 03:15:29 PM
Please look at the two PDF links.
1) Everything is explained clear enough and the text and the drawings are also clear enough.
2) No, there are no experiments at all. It's only a theoretical research. If somebody in this forum has time and good will, then he/she could carry out the experiment. You can also consider everything as a part of the entertaiment industry. Simply have fun and be happy! 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 08, 2018, 11:27:51 AM
Dear colleagues,
Let me tell you about two more things.
1) Precise mathematical calculations (including intergrals) unambiguously show the correctness of the conception described in the two PDF links  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf and  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf. Baron Munchausen can lift himself into the air by pulling himself up by his own hair for sure! The calculations however take too much space (20 pages) and that's why they are not given here. But anybody, who is interested in, can do the math.
2) There are special computer programs (since 1990s) which entirely and fully imitate real mechanical (as well as electrical, chemical and other) processes. There are numerous clips in YouTube which totally and fully imitate the real mechanical processes which occur in the internal combustion engines (ICE) for example. The clips are animations which show clearly vectors (as time varying directions and magnitudes) of linear and angular velocities and of forces and torques related (a) to the rotating crankshaft, (b) to the reciprocally moving pistons and (c) to the cylinders. AND PLEASE NOTE -- there is an option which allows imitating of the real mechanical processes in ICE with and without friction, that is, friction can vary from zero to any value(magnitude) bigger than zero.
So if there are enthusiasts (enthusiasm is one of the basic requirements of any great deed) in this forum who are well educated in computer sciences, then they could adapt the above mentioned programs to the Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive conception and show all of us in this forum the related adaptations.
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And let me repeat again -- nobody forces you into accepting of the Baron Munchausen's conception for a reactionless drive. Please consider the two PDF links as a part of the entertainment industry. Simply have fun and be happy!
Best regards,
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 15, 2018, 11:22:42 AM
And two more arguments related to Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive which are not related to higher mathematics.
1) Firstly, please look again at Figs. 1,2,2A and 3 in link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf and at the related text in link  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf. Please assume that the inside walls of the straight-line black pipes are quite rough and covered with abrasive paper. The two blue balls slide inside the straight-line black pipes s-segments. Let us assume that the resisting force of friction is 1N. (The weight of an average apple is around 1N.)
Secondly, please look again at Figs. 4,5,5A and 6 in link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf and at the related text in link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf. Please assume that friction inside the zig-zag channels is 100000 times smaller than 1N (which is perfectly possible by using modern technologies), that is, the resisting force of friction is now 0.00001N. Therefore friction can be assumed negligible -- it is much smaller than the weight of a mosquito! And the related experimental error is 0.001%, that is, the experimental error can be also neglected as the acceptable margin of experimental error is 1% at most.
How to explain the Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive in a simpler and more understandable way?
2) Now we are preparing a presentation (text and drawings) of another approach which allows replacing of friction (Figs. 1,2,2A and 3) with another technology unit. The blue ball slides with negligible friction inside the straight-line black pipe and at a certain moment pushes sideways an oblique piston which on its behalf slides in a straight-line channel. This channel (a) is perpendicular to the black straight-line pipe and (b) is firmly attached to the black straight-line pipe. There is a spring of suitable stiffness inside this additional channel. The blue ball slides inside the black straight-line pipe and pushes the oblique piston, which on its behalf presses the spring. After some period of time the piston is totally pushed out of the black straight-line pipe and is locked in its ultimate position; the spring is maximally pressed and the related velocities are the same as in Fig. 3. If friction is assumed negligible, then (a) no heat is generated and (b) the related energy is accumulated in the spring as a potential energy. (The spring is assumed to be ideal and I will not explain now what is an ideal spring and how it correlates with a real spring.)
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It seems to me that many members of this forum (excluding a few clumsy and ignorant agents of the BIG OIL) as if fear the truth.
Nevertheless simply have fun!
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: fritznien on September 15, 2018, 03:26:03 PM
hard to read.TLDRwhat is the point.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 22, 2018, 10:36:44 AM
To fritznien.
1) The experimental error caused by friction in a real experiment can be reduced to 0.001% (modern technologies allow this) while the acceptable margin of experimental error is 1-2% at most and 5% as a standard.   
2) Friction can be replaced by oblique pistons which are pushed aside by the moving blue balls. Pistons press high-quality springs that accumulate potential energy and do not practically generate heat.
Note. Yet please read the text which you evaluate as TLRD. 
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on October 06, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
Don't fear the truth! And the truth is that BARON MUNCHAUSEN CAN LIFT HIMSELF INTO THE AIR BY PULLING HIMSELF UP BY HIS OWN HAIR FOR SURE! The law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not correct in some cases! Any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing disturbing and tragic in this fact. Be simply braver and have fun!
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 04, 2018, 11:30:14 AM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: F6FLT on November 04, 2018, 01:15:44 PM
...BARON MUNCHAUSEN CAN LIFT HIMSELF INTO THE AIR BY PULLING HIMSELF UP BY HIS OWN HAIR FOR SURE!
...
Does he use the same method as Peter Pan?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on November 05, 2018, 02:17:31 PM
I do not see any comments. No one here is interested in reactionless drive?
The point here is how one can pull his own hair and lift himself into the air. The hand that pulls, will pull equally in the opposite direction of the weight he want to lift. Such videos, or statements are untrue because it's a good trick, with nothing more to it.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: F6FLT on November 05, 2018, 06:01:15 PM
...The hand that pulls, will pull equally in the opposite direction of the weight he want to lift. Such videos, or statements are untrue because it's a good trick, with nothing more to it.
...

I share your opinion, Vidar.
The configuration reduces to a closed mechanical system and no new physics is assumed. A Lagrangian can therefore describe the system, which excludes any possibility of non-conservation of the momentum.
I consider this thread to be a good joke, even if it is not the April fool's day.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 11, 2018, 12:20:33 PM
To F6FLT and to Low-Q.
Are you really ignorant or you only imitate ignorance because of the money you receive from the BIG OIL and/or from similar organizations? Most likely the second one is true.   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 11, 2018, 12:23:21 PM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: F6FLT on November 11, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
To F6FLT and to Low-Q.
Are you really ignorant or you only imitate ignorance because of the money you receive from the BIG OIL and/or from similar organizations?
Yes I get $50.000 every month from "BIG OIL and/or from similar organizations" to animate social networks. ::)  ;D ;D ;D

Irony aside, after having learned elementary physics, you should also learn the ad hominem fallacy of "Guilt by association" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy) in order to improve your mastery of logic and rethoric and to be less insulting in the future.

Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 12, 2018, 04:25:42 PM
To F6FLT.
Please excuse me if I have insulted you. You are free to have your own opinion and protect it. I do not mind if you consider the above Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive as a joke. Then please have fun and be happy! It's OK! 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 12, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 26, 2018, 06:26:55 PM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on November 30, 2018, 12:56:29 PM
To F6FLT and to Low-Q.
Are you really ignorant or you only imitate ignorance because of the money you receive from the BIG OIL and/or from similar organizations? Most likely the second one is true.
This has nothing to do with Big Oil. Oil is Big because over unity doesn't work. Claiming that Big Oil is in the way, is just a conspiracy theory that is constructed by ignorant minds.
Science is all about numbers. If the numbers doesn't add up, you have a problem that can't be solved. Easy as that.
However, in spite of this, even myself have spent lots of time trying to crack the over unity code. Sleepless nights, convinced that I have figured it out, but then the day after I realize I made a mistake in the calculations, or methods that are used to determine how things work.


Working with OU is an extremely hard task to manage fully - just because, in the end of the day, the numbers doesn't add up, EVERY TIME. Frustrating, but true.
I'm not saying that all those experiments and simulations are a waste of time. While walking that steep uphill path, you learn more and more - learning the hard way, by doing errors. You learn what mistakes you did, and then avoid those in later experiments and simulations. Unfortunatly for someone, the broken record plays the same track over and over. Makes the same mistakes over and over.
Just a fool repeats experiments that fail. You must think new every time, even if you don't have any good ideas left - then try the bad ideas untill you come up with something promising.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on November 30, 2018, 01:02:57 PM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
I have noe clue about these simulators, but what I assume, is that those computer models use calculus to determine the outcome.
As long that calculator correctly states that 1+1=2, I cannot guarantee that you some day will be able to simulate a mechanical system that delivers over unity.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 01, 2018, 11:45:17 AM
To Low-Q
Hi Vidar,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
1) Well, there are three possibilities -- the described above Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive either (a) breaks only the law of conservation of linear momentum or (b) breaks only the law of conservation of mechanical energy or (c) breaks simultaneously both the law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy.
2) The violation of the law of conservation of linear momentum automatically leads to a comparatively simple mechanical reactionless drive machine, which (PLEASE NOTE!) has nothing to do with literally lifting yourself into the air by pulling your own hair -- only the ultimate effect would be the same 
2) You wrote that you have spent lots of time trying to crack the over unity code. In such a case let us work together and not compete. Let us find together an expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems and processes. (You and I are not experts in this field for sure.) 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on December 02, 2018, 12:41:45 AM
Well, George, I'm not actually competing. I just find such claims a little odd - the logic doesn't add quite up. By reactionless, I understand a force that does not need a reference. Say that you help a driver with his car by pushing it out of from a pile of snow. By "magic" you do not spend a calorie, but the car is still pushed away from the pile.
Then you realize that the car was hooked up on a tractor. The mistake was that you didn't noticed the tractor.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 12, 2018, 12:45:44 PM
To Low-Q.
Hi Vidar.
Thanks a lot for your reply. And here is my answer.
1) Actually I did not understand what exactly are you talking about in your last message. May be this is due to my insufficient qualification. But let us try another simple approach.
2) Assume that the black component is either fixed to the ground or its mass is much bigger than the mass of the blue component. Then after covering a certain number of zigzags the blue component will stop WITHOUT HEAT GENERATION as friction is zero (or small enough for the related experimental error to be neglected). This corresponds to the second experiment.
3) Let us now replace the black component zigzag sector with a straight-line sector which is rough enough and long enough. Then after covering a certain suitable length/part of the straight-line rough sector the blue component will also stop but this time WITH HEAT GENERATION. This corresponds to the first experiment.
4) If in items 2 and 3 the black component is either not fixed to the ground or its mass is not much bigger but comparable with the mass of the blue component, then in both cases after covering a certain number of zigzags (experiment 2) and after covering a certain length of the rough straight-line sector (experiment 1) the blue and black components will form together one united whole which will move with one and same final velocity. But in one case (corresponding to experiment 2) THERE IS NO HEAT GENERATION and in the other case (corresponding to experiment 1) THERE IS HEAT GENERATION. This enevitably leads to the conclusion that may be both the law of conseravation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not correct simultaneously to some extent. And there is now only one step to designing and manufacturing a reactionless derive. (Let us call it for fun a "Baron Munchausen reactionless drive".)
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It's simple, isn't it?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George     
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 12, 2018, 12:58:56 PM

Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 18, 2018, 09:19:13 AM
And here is one even more understandable variation of the considerations related to the links  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf and https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf.
1) Let us assume that the mass of the black component is m and the mass of the blue component is m too. The initial velocity of the blue component is Vo and its linear momentum is mVo respectively.
2) Let us consider only the zigzag experiment 2.
3) Firstly, let us consider what would happen if the zigzag channels are rough and there is friction. And secondly, let us consider what will happen if the zigzag channels are smooth and there is no friction.
4) The question is how many zigzags have to be covered by the blue component for both the black component and the blue component to form one united whole whose mass is 2m and whose velocity is Vo/2, and whose linear momentum is exactly (2m)(Vo/2).
5) The answer is surprisingly simple -- simple formulas and calculations have to be used only.
5A) For the first case -- rough zigzag channels. The blue component has to cover 5 zigzags for both the black component and the blue component to form one united whole whose mass is 2m and whose velocity is Vo/2, and whose linear momentum is (2m)(Vo/2) respectively. In this first case HEAT IS GENERATED.
5B) For the second case -- smooth zigzag channels. The same final results with the only difference that (1) the blue component has to cover 11 zigzags and (2) HEAT IS NOT GENERATED.
6) We chose a sine wave shape of the zigzag channels. But one can use any other zigzag-shaped curve.
7) For the calculations we used the following initial data.
7A) Force of friction = 1N (initial value); force of friction gradually decreases because it depends on the normal force (normal to the sine wave curve) which also decreases while the blue component moves in relation to the black component.   
7B) Coefficient of sliding friction = 0.5 = const.; it does not change while the blue component moves in relation to the black component.
7C) Sine wave maximum amplitude = 0.2 m.
7D) Vo = 1 m/s.
7E) m = 1 kg.
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How to explain the situation in a simpler manner?
IT IS EVIDENT that there is only one step from the above considerations to the designing and manufacturing of a comparatively simple  ENTIRELY mechanical reactionless drive machine.
Looking forward to the answers of all sceptics :) (who we actually consider as friends, associates and colleagues).
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 18, 2018, 09:42:25 AM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 26, 2018, 04:25:41 PM
1) Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
2) Any member of this forum, who is a top expert in theoretical and applied mechanics, and who is able to check the correctness of our calculations related to 5/11 zigzag experiments?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 29, 2018, 03:57:51 PM
1) Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
2) Any member of this forum, who is a top expert in theoretical and applied mechanics, and who is able to check the correctness of our calculations related to 5/11 zigzag experiments?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 02, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Best wishes to all members of this forum!
And I would like to ask again for support, partnership and collaboration:
1) Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
2) Any member of this forum, who is a top expert in theoretical and applied mechanics, and who is able to check the correctness of our calculations related to 5/11 zigzag experiments?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on January 02, 2019, 12:43:07 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Best wishes to all members of this forum!
And I would like to ask again for support, partnership and collaboration:
1) Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
2) Any member of this forum, who is a top expert in theoretical and applied mechanics, and who is able to check the correctness of our calculations related to 5/11 zigzag experiments?
Happy new year George!
I think your question doesn't get any response, but I have answered your question earlier - even if it wasn't exactly what you wanted.
If you want to simulate a mechanical setup, the professional way, any legit simulators out there does not allow over unity - simply because they take all physical and mathematical aspects into consideration that cannot allow a false answer to a calculation. It will, if all details about your zigzag-idea is put into the model, calculate zero output.


I have analyzed your zigzag-idea (Based on what I can uderstand frot it), but I cannot find anything in it which creates energy from nothing, or anything special, or surprizingly odd.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 06, 2019, 12:50:00 PM
Happy New Year, Vidar!
Thanks a lot for your reply. I would not agree with your opinion, but it's ok. It is normal different people to have different opinions.
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To all other colleagues and friends in this forum, who do not share Vidar's opinion.
Please consider carefully the 10 items below that can be found by Google.
1) Physics engine -- Wikipedia.
2) Physics abstraction layer (PAL).
3) Dynamechs.
4) RigidChips.
5) Dynamical simulation -- Wikipedia.
6) Open dynamics engine.
7) Japanese rigid-body simulator.
8) Rigid-body simulator.
9) Rigid-body Dynamic Simulators.
10) And many more.
Google shows that there are at least 15 high-quality simulators of physical reality which ARE BASED ON THE THREE NEWTON'S LAWS. And this means that the experimental error is reduced practically to zero.
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on January 06, 2019, 11:50:18 PM
 @George1,
 
Hi,
I'm an old timer. Been a very long time since my last post...
Nicely written paper! Very cleanly explained. Congratulations! However, I've stop reading at the very top of page 8: "The second result is that the blue T-shaped component decelerates..."
Why is it do you think it would decelerate? Would it? Why would it? I'm asking because I firmly believe it won't. In the absence of any friction (ideal case), it's the balls that accelerates instead. It will accelerate without any problem in the light of the assumption made at page 3, in the brackets: "For easier considerations further in the text you could assume that the masses of the two symmetrical couples blue rods - blue balls are equal to zero and can be neglected". Emphasis is on "are equal to zero", hence they do not require energy, nor momentum, to accelerate instantaneously.  The speed of T-shaped component will, therefore, remain constant. Having reached this point, I'm sorry to say that, imho, the rest of the paper does fall short on physics?


Waiting for your reply,

Best regards!
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 07, 2019, 01:01:35 PM
But if the speed of the T-shaped component remains constant, then this will lead to a severe violation of the two basic laws. No matter how many are the zigzags the T-shaped component's speed will be always constant and the T-shaped component will never stop. Did I understand you correctly?
(In my poor opinion the best solution is the use of a high-quality rigid-body simulator of the kind that is used in NASA, Boeing, Formula 1 etc.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards!
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on January 07, 2019, 02:24:37 PM
Yes, that is correct. In the absence of friction and zero ball masses, the T-shaped component's speed will be always constant, regardless of zigzags. There is no violations of any laws that I am aware of.
If you'll want to consider non-zero ball masses but also the absence of friction, the speed of T-shaped component will vary as per momentum and energy conservation laws, depending on the zigzags exact geometrical configuration but, in the end, when traveling straight again, the speed will revert back to the exact initial speed, regardless of zigzags. It's just slightly more complicated to solve but in essence I think you'll find out a solution close to a kind of jerky motion and nothing else of particular relevance.
That's how I see it.I'm sorry for the bad news.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on January 07, 2019, 07:01:12 PM
@tinu
That is pretty much what I figured out too.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 08, 2019, 09:30:59 AM
To Low-Q/Vidar and tinu.
Thanks a lot for your replies. I would not agree with your arguements because of several reasons. It will take too much time and space however to explain these reasons in detail. (Part of these reasons were explained in some of my previous posts.)  Anyway you both are free to have your own opinions and protect them. It's OK. My intuition tells me however that very soon you both will change your minds and you both will join our team. If so, you are welcome.
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To all other colleagues and friends in this forum, who do not share present Vidar's and tinu's opinions.
Please consider carefully the 10 items below that can be found by Google.
1) Physics engine -- Wikipedia.
2) Physics abstraction layer (PAL).
3) Dynamechs.
4) RigidChips.
5) Dynamical simulation -- Wikipedia.
6) Open dynamics engine.
7) Japanese rigid-body simulator.
8) Rigid-body simulator.
9) Rigid-body Dynamic Simulators.
10) And many more.
Google shows that there are at least 15 high-quality simulators of physical reality which ARE BASED ON THE THREE NEWTON'S LAWS. And this means that the experimental error is reduced practically to zero.
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 11, 2019, 01:14:29 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum, who do not share present Vidar's and tinu's opinions.
Please consider carefully the links below.
1) https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_simulation_software
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PfAtth53bk
4) https://www.mathworks.com/products/simmechanics.html
5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_engine
6) And many more.
Google shows that there are at least 20 high-quality simulators of physical reality which ARE BASED ON THE THREE NEWTON'S LAWS. And this means that the experimental error is reduced practically to zero.
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 16, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum, who do not share present Vidar's and tinu's opinions.
Please consider carefully the links below.
1) https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_simulation_software
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PfAtth53bk
4) https://www.mathworks.com/products/simmechanics.html
5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_engine
6) And many more.
Google shows that there are at least 20 high-quality simulators of physical reality which ARE BASED ON THE THREE NEWTON'S LAWS. And this means that the experimental error is reduced practically to zero.
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 20, 2019, 10:40:47 AM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 23, 2019, 02:49:38 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 28, 2019, 10:14:17 AM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 01, 2019, 09:59:29 AM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 02, 2019, 01:09:32 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 04, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 10, 2019, 03:14:39 PM
Any comments, opinions, recommendations, objections? Any positive and constructive criticism is welcome.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 10, 2019, 03:15:15 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 12, 2019, 03:18:00 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 19, 2019, 10:29:30 AM
Any comments, opinions, recommendations, related to our reactionless drive conception?
Looking forward to your answers.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 20, 2019, 10:18:22 AM
Instead of repeating yourself and annoying everyone with the same messages over and over, you can build this thing, and see how it works ;)


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 21, 2019, 10:15:49 AM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
1) Yes, you are right. As if I overdo the things a little. I am sorry for this.
2) Now we are working over a real experiment as well as over a computer simulation. But these two problems are not easy to be solved. Some help from any member of this forum would be always welcome.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,     
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 21, 2019, 11:48:30 AM

Starting with specific design on the drawing board is a good way to start. Drawings with specific details, such as size of parts, where to put them (how to assamble), what the parts are for, and what purpose they have. Choise of materials for each part.
3D drawings is easier to understand. Not many can understand 2D drawings and put those together in an imaginary 3D model, then visualize how it works.
You have some work to do, I suppose🙂


Vidar

To Low-Q.
---------------------
Hi Vidar,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
1) Yes, you are right. As if I overdo the things a little. I am sorry for this.
2) Now we are working over a real experiment as well as over a computer simulation. But these two problems are not easy to be solved. Some help from any member of this forum would be always welcome.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,     
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 21, 2019, 03:38:53 PM
A quote from Low-Q: "Starting with specific design on the drawing board is a good way to start. Drawings with specific details, such as size of parts, where to put them (how to assamble), what the parts are for, and what purpose they have. Choise of materials for each part.
3D drawings is easier to understand. Not many can understand 2D drawings and put those together in an imaginary 3D model, then visualize how it works.
You have some work to do, I suppose🙂"
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To Low-Q.
-----------------
Hi Vidar.
Thanks a lot for your reply and for your moral support. We highly appreciate this. And yes, you are right -- we have some work to do, that's true.
And one question, if you please. I can't understand these three sentences: "3D drawings is easier to understand. Not many can understand 2D drawings and put those together in an imaginary 3D model, then visualize how it works." Would you be so polite to give us some more detailed explanations?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 22, 2019, 10:42:45 AM
To Low-Q.
-----------------
Hi Vidar.
Why 3D is easier to understand than 2D? Isn't it just on the contrary?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 22, 2019, 06:47:44 PM
What I meant was draw the model in 3D, such as you do in Fusion 360 or Sketchup.


If you need help with design or wether it works or not, it is important to be VERY specific. Detailed drawings in 3D is very helpful.
Because ball-pen lines, some ripples/waves, a square here and there, maybe a circle somewhere on a piece of paper, does not make sense for many. Even if the text/explanations are there, it is not always easy to follow the explanation of the drawings.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 23, 2019, 12:45:23 PM
Hi Vidar,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
Your last text is very interesting. I would need some time to formulate exactly a few questions. And what are Fusion 360 and Sketchup?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 23, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
Fusion 360 and Sketchup is computer software where you can modelling objects, put them together so you can sort of simulate a real model, turn it around on the computer screen so you can look at the model from any thinkable positions.
Search youtube for Fusion 360 modelling or Sketchup modelling. Then you see what purpose these softwares has🙂
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 23, 2019, 01:14:39 PM
Well, aside from my reply above, I have given your drawing an eyeball, and wonder about one thing.
The waveform, I assume is a hollow track, or two tracks close to each other, keeping a small rod or something on track as you move the piston back and forth.
The lines that goes in between the two vertical parallell lines, what are they supposed to do, except from bouncing up and down as you move the piston sideways?
It is somewat hard to keep track on a handwritten photographed description, in multiple pages in, a foreign language...
Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 25, 2019, 02:21:23 PM
To Low-Q/Vidar.
----------------------
Hi Vidar.
Thanks a lot for your reply.
Would you be so polite to formulate again your question(s)? I did not understand them entirely.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 25, 2019, 02:24:02 PM
To Low-Q/Vidar
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And thanks a lot for the information related to Fusion 360 and Sketchup.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 26, 2019, 09:09:48 AM
To Low-Q/Vidar
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It's not an easy job for an unexperienced man to work with Fusion 360 and with Sketchup. It will take some time to study and learn the basic skills.
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 27, 2019, 11:43:34 AM
To Low-Q/Vidar.
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There is some progress with these programs. But it will take time.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 27, 2019, 07:43:46 PM
Sounds great Geroge1.
These compotersimulations in 3D are powerful tools.
They do not only offer a full 3 dimension model, but you can make parts, assemble them on the computer. In this way you can easily see where you need adjustments or alternative fittings. Last, but not least, your model can be exported to a 3D printable version, and one day hold your computermodel in your hands. I do this all the time. Making parts on my 3D printer that I have made in SketchUp Make ( the free version of scetchup).


It is a steep learning curve at the beginning. I have recently got into Fusion 360, but after many years with SketchUp, I find it hard to "reset" my brain to handle Fusion 360 well.
I'll probably stick to SketchUp for now.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 01, 2019, 12:15:15 PM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar.
Thank you for your reply.
1) Yes, SketchUp really seems to be more convenient. It is web-based and does not need downloading (as Fusion 360 does) which is, let's say, one of its primary advantages.
2) But as if neither SketchUp nor Fusion 360 have any options related to a possible details' motion. Or may be there are such options but being a non-expert I did not notice them? Please throw some light on this section of SketchUp and Fusion 360, if possible.
3) As I can see you are a top-expert in the field. So would you be so polite to think over the possibility to join our team and become our partner?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George     
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on March 01, 2019, 03:28:06 PM

Hi George1,


I have to think about the partnership. What does it involve? Finance, development, support, or what?
I cannot throw money after people. I can for sure help if you need some sketches, but do not expect me to be 100% dedicated to the partnership since I do have lots of other things to do - such as kids, other hobbies, a wife, a job etc.
I will not spend a second on contributions to developments of devices that obviously cannot work, such as closed looped gravity powered machines of all kinds, or electrical closed looped devices that is suposed to deliver excess energy.


I am more into magnetism, because that is a relatively wide field when you think about it. It is not directly compareable to gravity, even though the magnetic fields at any point is conservative, but it is the magnetic field gradient that looks interesting. What can we do with it? How can we displace magnetic materials, or other magnets, within a magnetic field gradient without effort? etc. This is the issues I work on right now (Actually for years without sucsess this far).


Speaking of SketchUp: It is not possible to animate functions of a model in SketchUp. To do this you need an expert level in VERY expensive and powerful computer tools.
What I do is designing a model in SketchUp, then 3D-print it as a model with parts that I put together, and test in real life. Computersimulations cannot provide proof. Most important, computersimulations use generic calculus to determine the outcome. That means you will never be able to simulate overunity on a computer.


Vidar

To Low-Q.
-----------------
Hi Vidar.
Thank you for your reply.
1) Yes, SketchUp really seems to be more convenient. It is web-based and does not need downloading (as Fusion 360 does) which is, let's say, one of its primary advantages.
2) But as if neither SketchUp nor Fusion 360 have any options related to a possible details' motion. Or may be there are such options but being a non-expert I did not notice them? Please throw some light on this section of SketchUp and Fusion 360, if possible.
3) As I can see you are a top-expert in the field. So would you be so polite to think over the possibility to join our team and become our partner?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 10, 2019, 12:14:45 PM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar.
Thank you for your reply.
My colleagues and I have been extremely busy for the last 7 days and because of this I could not answer your last letter.
About the partnership. Actually I have not an exact formula for this partnership. May be support and development? Or something else? Please suggest, if you like, some formula for partnership and collaboration of mutual benefit.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on March 10, 2019, 02:36:38 PM
Hi George,


I am willing to discuss projects with you. Just tell me how you prefer the communication. Open source, such as this forum, or in full secret.
Email, facebook, messenger, or what?


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 12, 2019, 09:38:57 AM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar
Thank you for your reply.
Well, may be some part of our correspondence could be open source and some part could be secret. You have the email address of our group. It is written in my first post. Please write to our email address, if you like, and if you have some secret projects, which you don't want to reveale to public.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on March 12, 2019, 01:49:29 PM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar
Thank you for your reply.
Well, may be some part of our correspondence could be open source and some part could be secret. You have the email address of our group. It is written in my first post. Please write to our email address, if you like, and if you have some secret projects, which you don't want to reveale to public.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George   
OK. Thanks. I sent you an email from my gmail account just now.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 15, 2019, 03:09:14 PM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar.
Thank you for your reply. I will enter our team's email address after a while.
Best regards,
George 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 16, 2019, 11:39:18 AM
Any comments, advices, recommendations, objections?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: aurelian on March 17, 2019, 01:42:00 AM
Is there any moderator on this forum who can approve new posts?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: hdeasy on March 19, 2019, 04:04:24 PM
Why don't you pay an engineer to make up your system and test it? That's what I have done for 6 or 7 prototypes at this stage using centrifugal force to propel reaction-lessly. Some of the prototypes shattered due to vibrations but they all gave the predicted forces. I won't show them as trying to develop in a startup company. I estimate yours would cost about 500 Euros with the firm I work with.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 26, 2019, 10:45:15 AM
Why don't you pay an engineer to make up your system and test it? That's what I have done for 6 or 7 prototypes at this stage using centrifugal force to propel reaction-lessly. Some of the prototypes shattered due to vibrations but they all gave the predicted forces. I won't show them as trying to develop in a startup company. I estimate yours would cost about 500 Euros with the firm I work with.
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This is a good advice. You have done 7 prototypes. Could you recommend me soe skillful engineer?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 30, 2019, 02:16:41 PM
Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 31, 2019, 05:21:08 PM
Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 08, 2019, 03:42:03 PM
Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 09, 2019, 01:35:16 PM
Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 10, 2019, 10:58:56 AM
Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 11, 2019, 12:55:06 PM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 15, 2019, 11:28:51 AM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 16, 2019, 11:17:02 AM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 19, 2019, 10:06:12 AM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 20, 2019, 10:07:57 AM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 22, 2019, 08:48:01 AM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 23, 2019, 10:11:04 AM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 24, 2019, 10:07:31 AM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 25, 2019, 09:10:51 AM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 26, 2019, 02:05:07 PM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 27, 2019, 12:52:25 PM
Hi everyone
1) Are there any skillful engineers/craftsmen in this forum who are ready to carry out either real or computer-simulated experiments? We are ready to pay. How much?
2) We are also ready to discuss any form of cooperation of mutual benefit. Any idea in this direction?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on April 30, 2019, 09:26:01 AM
It seems to me a paradox that there isn't at least one enthusiast in this forum who is ready to perform either a real or a computer-simulated experiment of the reactionless drive. I can't understand this. What happens here?
Regards,
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 02, 2019, 09:53:55 AM
Hi everyone
Very, very sad! No inventors-enthisiasts here?
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on May 02, 2019, 03:06:16 PM
 Maybe that's because time and money are too precious to be wasted?!
There are enough enthusiasts here but I told you already that your idea is flawed. You may perform the real experiment by yourself by placing two laser pointers at the end of a rod in such a way that their emitted photons will be your zero-mass balls. Make the zig-zag pattern out of mirrors appropriately placed so as the laser is reflected back to the central rod where is to be absorbed on a black surface. Now you can move the rod back and forth and do your observations and measurements. I suggest you use a very low-amplitude pendulum movement for the rod by suspending it with stings under vacuum and then measure it's oscillation frequency, with lasers turned on then off. But I'd rather suggest you better keep studying physics as it would be more conclusive and beneficial in the long run.
Best regards!
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 03, 2019, 09:49:40 AM
Hi tinu,
Thank you for reply.
1) First of all it's evident that there is some kind of misunderstanding here. Nobody ever mentioned about zero-mass balls. The mass of each blue ball is, let's say, 1/100 the mass of the T-shaped blue component.
2) Your laser-based idea seems to be interesting. But how will you imitate the "ball+rod united whole" back-and-forth motion by using laser beams? We cannot understand this. It seems to be incompatible with our basic concept. Please explain your point of view in detail, if possible.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
       
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: hdeasy on May 03, 2019, 10:12:16 AM
I couldn't wade through the verbose exposition - reminds me of something from Bergson or Alfred Whitehead. Can you not summarize it in 2 or 3 sentences? The springs remind one of what is a truly reaction-less system - i.e.  http://www.inertialpropulsion.com/ . (http://www.inertialpropulsion.com/)
 Nothing like it thoguh, is it? (http://www.inertialpropulsion.com/)
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 04, 2019, 12:29:14 PM
Hi hdeasy,
Is there any friction between this machine and the horizontal surface?
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 04, 2019, 12:31:24 PM
As if some four small wheels maintain the horizontal motion?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: hdeasy on May 04, 2019, 01:13:18 PM
Do you mean Steve's demo of his cart moving? Well some friction is there between wheels and surface but he maintains that a reaction-less force moves it forward without contact to the axle of the wheels. However, the movement is a bit jerky, which could be that he's using one way wheels. In this case the system would be reaction off the floor.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on May 06, 2019, 10:28:58 AM
Hi tinu,
Thank you for reply.
1) First of all it's evident that there is some kind of misunderstanding here. Nobody ever mentioned about zero-mass balls. The mass of each blue ball is, let's say, 1/100 the mass of the T-shaped blue component.
2) Your laser-based idea seems to be interesting. But how will you imitate the "ball+rod united whole" back-and-forth motion by using laser beams? We cannot understand this. It seems to be incompatible with our basic concept. Please explain your point of view in detail, if possible.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
     
Hi George1,

1. Nobody ever mentioned about zero-mass balls?!!! https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf Page 3, in the brackets: "For easier considerations further in the text you could assume that the masses of the two symmetrical couples blue rods - blue balls are equal to zero and can be neglected".  So, it seems the whole paper was written by somebody else, someone not part of 'your team', since you don't even remember what's about? I've only red it once, almost 4 months ago  and still remember what's written within while you obviously don't know it even at this time...
So, who actually wrote the paper? Please tell him/her/them, that the paper is plain wrong (starting with page 8 ) and please forward to him/her/them my previous post of January 6th.

2. You absolutely need a blue laser, since the rods and balls are blue in the concept paper you posted. Otherwise, the whole experiment might fail. In fact, I'm pretty sure it will fail. So, if you don't have a blue laser to emit blue photons acting as blue balls, you may quickly rewrite the paper according to the laser wavelength you have available, in an attempt to save the situation.  For instance, you may try red rods and red balls, if you have a red laser readily available. Yes, it seems my idea is hard to understood, isn't it? I'm glad you find it interesting, tough.
Point 2 was a joke, obviously, for those wandering. But since we're wasting time here, why not?

Best regards.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 06, 2019, 11:33:24 AM
Hi guys,
Let us focus again on the zigzag design as described in the first post of this topic.
-----------------------------------
1) What will happen if:
a) the mass of the blue component is SMALLER than the mass of the black component;
b) the mass of the blue component is EQUAL to the mass of the black component;
c) the mass of the blue component is BIGGER than the mass of the black component.
-----------------------------------
2) And one modification of the main concept.
-----------------------------------
Let us assume that the black component is fixed motionless somewhere to some obstacle and is not able to move. In this case it is evident that after entering the zigzag channel section the blue component will decelerate. What will be the value of this deceleration d and how it will depend on the number of the zigzags? After how many zigzags for example the velocity of the blue component will be 3/4 its initial velocity Vo? Or, let's say, 1/2?
-----------------------------------
And one more question. It is evident that if the blue component enters the zigzag channel section, then the black component exerts force Fc on the obstacle, which does not allow the black component's linear motion. It is evident that the direction of Fc coincides with the direction of Vo. What will be the mean value of Fc for example? Or its maximum and minimum? 
-----------------------------------
So can somebody calculate the values of the deceleration d and of the force Fc for all of us in this forum? It is evident that both d and Fc are bigger than zero ( d > 0 and Fc > 0), but it will be a nice job if some formulas are derived.
(Note. Friction is negligible and the shape of the zigzag channel could be for example an ordinary standard sinusoid. (Or any other curve, if more convenient.))
-----------------------------------
Looking forward to your answers.
-----------------------------------
George     
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 07, 2019, 08:57:02 AM
Hi guys,
Some calculations and/or opinions related to our last post?
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 08, 2019, 11:38:56 AM
Hi guys,
Any calculated values for Fc and/or for d?
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on May 08, 2019, 12:41:19 PM
 Yes, I'm working on it!
It goes quite slowly. So far I have a report but it's 800 pages long...  ::)
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 08, 2019, 01:32:28 PM
OK, we are waiting!
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 08, 2019, 01:39:53 PM
Hi tinu,
You petrify me again, my friend! As if you are a highly-qualified expert in electrochemistry as well as in theoretical and applied mechanics too! You are genius! :D
(Please don't be angry again -- I am only joking! :D)
Looking forward to your calculations related to Fc and d.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 09, 2019, 08:31:30 AM
Hi guys,
Let us focus again on the zigzag design as described in the first post of this topic.
-----------------------------------
1) What will happen if:
a) the mass of the blue component is SMALLER than the mass of the black component;
b) the mass of the blue component is EQUAL to the mass of the black component;
c) the mass of the blue component is BIGGER than the mass of the black component.
-----------------------------------
2) And one modification of the main concept.
-----------------------------------
Let us assume that the black component is fixed motionless somewhere to some obstacle and is not able to move. In this case it is evident that after entering the zigzag channel section the blue component will decelerate. What will be the value of this deceleration d and how it will depend on the number of the zigzags? After how many zigzags for example the velocity of the blue component will be 3/4 its initial velocity Vo? Or, let's say, 1/2?
-----------------------------------
And one more question. It is evident that if the blue component enters the zigzag channel section, then the black component exerts force Fc on the obstacle, which does not allow the black component's linear motion. It is evident that the direction of Fc coincides with the direction of Vo. What will be the mean value of Fc for example? Or its maximum and minimum? 
-----------------------------------
So can somebody calculate the values of the deceleration d and of the force Fc for all of us in this forum? It is evident that both d and Fc are bigger than zero ( d > 0 and Fc > 0), but it will be a nice job if some formulas are derived.
(Note. Friction is negligible and the shape of the zigzag channel could be for example an ordinary standard sinusoid. (Or any other curve, if more convenient.))
-----------------------------------
Looking forward to your answers.
-----------------------------------
George     
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 09, 2019, 11:12:57 AM
Hi tinu,
Waiting for your calculations related to the zigzag system.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 10, 2019, 10:14:09 AM
Hi guys,
Please have a look again at the first post of ours in this topic. Let us make the following comparison. (We will repeat some parts of our previous posts.)
============================
1) Please have a look at Fig. 4, Fig. 5, Fig. 5A and Fig. 6.
--------------------------------------------------
1A) THERE IS NO FRICTION. (Modern technologies allow to reduce practically as much as you want the experimental error, related to friction.)
--------------------------------------------------
1B) Let us assume that the black component is fixed motionless somewhere to some obstacle and is not able to move. In this case it is evident that after entering the zigzag channel section the blue component will decelerate. And it is also evident that the deceleration d (its absolute value and its mean value) will be bigger than zero, that is, d > 0.
--------------------------------------------------
1C) It is evident that if the blue component enters the zigzag channel section, then the black component exerts force Fc on the obstacle, which does not allow the black component's linear motion. It is evident that the direction of Fc coincides with the direction of Vo. It is also evident that the force Fc (its absolute value and its mean value) is bigger than zero, that is, Fc > 0.
============================
2) Please have a look at Fig. 1, Fig. 2, Fig. 2A and Fig. 3.
--------------------------------------------------
2A) THERE IS FRICTION in the linear channel s-segment section.
--------------------------------------------------
2B) Let us assume that the black component is fixed motionless somewhere to some obstacle and is not able to move. In this case it is evident that after entering the linear channel s-segment section the blue component will decelerate. And it is also evident that the deceleration d' (its absolute value and its mean value) will be bigger than zero, that is, d' > 0.
--------------------------------------------------
2C) It is evident that if the blue component enters the linear channel s-segment section, then the black component exerts force F'c on the obstacle, which does not allow the black component's linear motion. It is evident that the direction of F'c coincides with the direction of Vo. It is also evident that the force F'c (its absolute value and its mean value) is bigger than zero, that is, F'c > 0.
============================
3) Please compare item 1 with item 2. It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0. Therefore it is evident that zigzags successfully imitate resistance, which is identical to friction, but without generating heat. And if we use this simple fact in the experiments, described in Figs. 1 - 6, then we can conclude again that:
a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is not correct;
b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is not correct;
c) both the law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not correct simultaneously.
============================
Let us stress upon the fact that IN GENERAL both the law of conservation of mechanical energy and the law of conservation of linear momentum are absolutely true and correct. There is no doubt about this. But any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing special, disturbing and tragic in this fact.
--------------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George 




Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 11, 2019, 01:11:59 PM
Any comments, suggestions, opinions?
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 14, 2019, 01:38:36 PM
Hi guys,
As if the theoretical conception in the first post of ours in this topic is most probably a small exception of the law of conservation of linear momentum. But please note -- I wrote "MOST PROBBALY" and NOT "SURELY". Please have a look again at item 3 of our penultimate post. Which one of its sub-items (a), (b) and (c) is correct? We hope that some colleagues here will help to clarify this question.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George     
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on May 14, 2019, 08:03:35 PM
... most probably a small exception of the law of conservation of linear momentum
is nowhere to be found but in your head!

...But please note -- I wrote "MOST PROBBALY" and NOT "SURELY".
Noted. Most probably, like it's been said above.

Which one of its sub-items (a), (b) and (c) is correct?
Each and every of (a), (b) and (c) is wrong, also a brilliant sample of pure gibberish.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 15, 2019, 09:26:59 AM
tinu,
Did you take your medicine this morning?
You are a pathological hater. You are a sick man. You really need a doctor. And I am absolutely sure that you are sending your posts from the psychiatry section of a hospital.

Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on May 15, 2019, 09:54:03 AM
No arguments on topic?
 
Being uneducated might be somewhat excusable but being rude is your best choice? Really, George? lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaZDwIKYF4w
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 15, 2019, 11:42:59 AM
Hi tinu,
Ok, ok, my friend! :D I will not argue with you. You are free to have your own opinion and protect it. It's ok!
Don't worry and be happy! :D
Regards,
George
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 15, 2019, 12:04:08 PM
Hi guys,
A friend from another OU forum gives an interesting idea. He suggests the zigzag rounded curves to be replaced with sharp zigzag forms similar to saw teeth.  In this case, he says, the possible violation-of-the-two-conservation-laws effect would be as if even much greater. What do you think about his suggestion?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 15, 2019, 03:29:48 PM
Any opinions related to the saw-teeth zigzag model suggested by the colleague from a similar to ours OU website? (Please have a look at our last post.) His suggestion seems to be interesting.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM
Hi guys,
I am re-sending again our post of May 10, 2019, 10:14:09 AM. This post as if most clearly supports the validity of our basic concept.
============================
============================
Please have a look again at the first post of ours in this topic. Let us make the following comparison. (We will repeat some parts of our previous posts.)
============================
1) Please have a look at Fig. 4, Fig. 5, Fig. 5A and Fig. 6.
--------------------------------------------------
1A) THERE IS NO FRICTION. (Modern technologies allow to reduce practically as much as you want the experimental error, related to friction.)
--------------------------------------------------
1B) Let us assume that the black component is fixed motionless somewhere to some obstacle and is not able to move. In this case it is evident that after entering the zigzag channel section the blue component will decelerate. And it is also evident that the deceleration d (its absolute value and its mean value) will be bigger than zero, that is, d > 0.
--------------------------------------------------
1C) It is evident that if the blue component enters the zigzag channel section, then the black component exerts force Fc on the obstacle, which does not allow the black component's linear motion. It is evident that the direction of Fc coincides with the direction of Vo. It is also evident that the force Fc (its absolute value and its mean value) is bigger than zero, that is, Fc > 0.
============================
2) Please have a look at Fig. 1, Fig. 2, Fig. 2A and Fig. 3.
--------------------------------------------------
2A) THERE IS FRICTION in the linear channel s-segment section.
--------------------------------------------------
2B) Let us assume that the black component is fixed motionless somewhere to some obstacle and is not able to move. In this case it is evident that after entering the linear channel s-segment section the blue component will decelerate. And it is also evident that the deceleration d' (its absolute value and its mean value) will be bigger than zero, that is, d' > 0.
--------------------------------------------------
2C) It is evident that if the blue component enters the linear channel s-segment section, then the black component exerts force F'c on the obstacle, which does not allow the black component's linear motion. It is evident that the direction of F'c coincides with the direction of Vo. It is also evident that the force F'c (its absolute value and its mean value) is bigger than zero, that is, F'c > 0.
============================
3) Please compare item 1 with item 2. It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0. Therefore it is evident that zigzags successfully imitate resistance, which is identical to friction, but without generating heat. And if we use this simple fact in the experiments, described in Figs. 1 - 6, then we can conclude again that:
a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is not correct;
b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is not correct;
c) both the law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not correct simultaneously.
============================
Let us stress upon the fact that IN GENERAL both the law of conservation of mechanical energy and the law of conservation of linear momentum are absolutely true and correct. There is no doubt about this. But any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing special, disturbing and tragic in this fact.
--------------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on May 16, 2019, 12:46:26 PM
Please stop this crap already, will you? If you can't come with experimental results better stfu!
And stop spamming us again and again with your nonsense!
Can you understand this is a public forum or you're simply retard?
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 16, 2019, 01:37:10 PM
tinu,
You did not take your medicine again this morning. I will talk to your doctor to forbid you to write in this forum and take away your computer. You are dangerous for you yourself and for the others.
May be you have to change the medicine? Because obviously the medicine you are taking is not effective enough.       
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on May 16, 2019, 02:00:24 PM
George,

 I see you insist with repeated ad-hominem. You won't stay long here with your insults, you little prick.
 
Tell me this: your character is abject, your education is poor, your western culture is almost non-existent and your inclination is clearly toward lying and cheating yet your English is pretty good. Add a high ego and no manners whatsoever. You must come from a former imperial colony, aren't you?
 
Anyway, I promise you: any time I'll have a spare minute, I'll sign in to smack in your face, moron!
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 16, 2019, 03:13:14 PM
tinu,
All members of this forum already see clearly that you are mad and dangerous. There is no doubt about this. How to have a dialogue with a mad person?
(I would like to appologise to all other members of this forum for my inappropriate words above. But there is no other way for communication with such people like tinu.) 
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on May 16, 2019, 08:43:46 PM
 George,

Haven't I just told you I'll not allow any more impunities?
Is it I was not clear enough or you're really retard?!
Wait for my reply. It will come shortly, as soon as I'll make some time to waste on you.
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on May 16, 2019, 09:11:54 PM
... we can conclude again that:
a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is not correct;
This assertion is plain stupid. Linear momentum is always conserved. There is no exception.

...we can conclude again that:
b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is not correct;
 
This assertion is plain stupid. In a closed system where there are no dissipative forces (as per your assumptions),  mechanical energy is always conserved. There is no exception.
 
...we can conclude again that:
c) both the law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not correct simultaneously.
This assertion is DOUBLE stupid. Both mechanical energy and linear momentum are always conserved. There is no exception.

Let us stress upon the fact that IN GENERAL both the law of conservation of mechanical energy and the law of conservation of linear momentum are absolutely true and correct. There is no doubt about this. But any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing special, disturbing and tragic in this fact.
This assertion is the most stupid sample one can read. Laws in physics have no exceptions! A single exception, if identified, would completely invalidate the law!

So George, why don't you go educate yourself a little more before coming here to insult people? If you need links and free books for your education, I can help.
Or, if you prefer, focus you attention to other kind of rules (traffic maybe) where, of course, there can be exceptions.

Please come back only when you're sufficiently enlightened and meanwhile refrain yourself from posting absurdities!


Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 17, 2019, 10:12:31 AM
tinu,
1) If you lived at the time of the three musketeers in France, then you should kill tens of people! :D (I am joking, Professor No-man -- please don't be angry again!):D 
2) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." Any objections against this last claim?

Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 18, 2019, 09:36:13 AM
Hi guys,
Any comments, suggestions, opinions related to our post of May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM and to the related item 2 of our last post?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on May 25, 2019, 06:26:52 PM
Hi guys,
Any comments, suggestions, opinions related to our post of May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM?
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on June 02, 2019, 02:13:29 PM
Hi guys,
Let us resume our almost-one-year-lasting discussion.
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1) The two supporting points of our basic concept are our two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0. Therefore it is evident that zigzags successfully imitate resistance, which is identical to friction, but without generating heat.
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2) It follows from the previous item 1 that it is perfectly possible to design and manufacture a reactionless drive of an entirely new kind. The principle of operation of this new kind of reactionless drive (a) is described in detail in our two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM and (b) is absolutely free.
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3) In order to work properly however the above mentioned new kind of reactionless drive needs a a reliable and effective motor system.
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4) The modern technology trend is related to electric vehicles -- electric cars, trucks, airplanes, drones, boats, bicycles, etc.
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5) So we are suggesting a revolutionary electric technology which increases (twice as a minimum and more than 25 times as a maximum) the distance travelled by a standard electric vehicle on a single charge. (Please have a look at our first post of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM.) Our revolutionary electric technology is cheap, safe and reliable and can be successfully used in combination with the new kind of reactionless drive as well as in combination with any type of a standard now-existing electric vehicle.
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6) We are selling our revolutionary electric technology for 10 (ten) million dollars. Money first and only then releasing of the technology description/information accompanied by a working experimental device.
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7) And we changed our minds. We decided to use 5 million dollars for R&D work and 5 million dollars for charity, that is, every second dollar of this 10 million dollars price will be used for charity.
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Looking forward to your answer.
George
 
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on June 09, 2019, 05:09:06 PM
Looking for a buyer of our revolutionary electric technology which is able to increase (twice as a minimum and more than 25 times as a maximum) the distance traveled by a standard electric vehicle on a single charge.
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: lancaIV on June 14, 2019, 01:23:31 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/20071119131255/http://www.trinitymotors.net/https://web.archive.org/web/20040607160343/http://www.trinitymotors.net/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20071119131255/http://www.trinitymotors.net/https://web.archive.org/web/20040607160343/http://www.trinitymotors.net/)
An historic breaktrough ( their words ::) )

The "PowerMax"
A generator-motor~ rotoverter concept
https://web.archive.org/web/20040607173348/http://www.trinitymotors.net/pressreleases.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20040607173348/http://www.trinitymotors.net/pressreleases.htm)"dormant windings" awaking

Similar:
http://www.geminielectricmotor.com/default.htm (http://www.geminielectricmotor.com/default.htm)"... the electricity generated by this third field could be used to recharge...... "

Both +/- calculation :100 electric units in and magnetic force out + 30 electric units for recharge


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Tanaka+saburo&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Tanaka+saburo&IN=&CPC=&IC=)

From battery 20 electric units to inverter to Tanaka Saburo device makes 100 electric units to
PowerMax or Geminielectricmotor ....... and 30 electric units for battery recharge .

   SURPLUS ENERGY CYCLE


"open source" technology: for electric vehicles( land,sub-/sea,air),  heat pumps/chiller, fridges, pumps,.........

Alternatively:
PowerMax or Geminielectricmotor

and this Dr. Imris battery recharge concept, since 31.03.2019 free/ open source :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&bcId=2&locale=en_EP&return=true&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&bcId=2&locale=en_EP&return=true&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5#)
Dr. Imris generative device ~ Tanaka Saburo device

THE 1 eWATT( and less) PER KILOMETER CHALLENGE;:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1#)
2000 Wh per 100 Kilometer

A. + 4x PowerMax / Geminielectricmotor + Saburo


B. Alternatively:

4x 500 Watt
https://www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet (https://www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet)
1000 Wh per 100 Kilometer

4x
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462or)

or Dr.Imris/ Tanaka Saburo generator/amplifier
200-100 Wh per 100 Kilometer =

                                                 1 eWATT PER KILOMETER
and optional :
https://www.interpatent.de/unsere_innovationen_strom_aus_der_federung_en.html (https://www.interpatent.de/unsere_innovationen_strom_aus_der_federung_en.html)
--------------------------------------

                           3d micro- modelling for surplus energy cycles
1. https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A#)
+ PowerMax or Geminielectricmotor  or inverter/ converter
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on June 15, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Hi lancaIV,
Hi dear friend,
It's a real pleasure to correspond with you! You are a great expert! (No flattering -- I really think what I am writing!) 
Please give me some time to consider carefully your last post.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on June 15, 2019, 10:12:41 AM
Hi guys,
1) We are selling a revolutionary electric technology for 10 (ten) million dollars. Our revolutionary electric technology increases (twice as a minimum and more than 25 times as a maximum) the distance traveled by a standard now-existing electric vehicle on a single charge. Our revolutionary electric technology is cheap, safe and reliable and is practically ready for production on a large industrial scale. There is a working prototype/experimental device.
2) In addition to our revolutionary electric technology we reveal ABSOLUTELY FREE the secret of the principle of operation of a revolutionary reactionless drive -- just like Baron Munchasen who lifted himself up by pulling his own hair. Please look at our two basic posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM.
3) The combination of the previous item 1 and item 2 would lead inevitably to an unique reactionless propulsion vehicle -- no transmissions, no propellers, no high-velocity hot gases, no high-temperature resistant materials, no high-pressure resistant materials, no sophisticated design and no sophisticated technology and NO POLLUTION(!), but only a simple electromechanical system, able to cover effectively great distances.
Looking forward to your answer.
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on June 16, 2019, 06:28:17 PM

Hi George,
I thought this was an open source forum. Selling stuff might be better elsewhere ;)
10 million dollars isn't cheap, btw, but why are you selling it?
Does it work?
Is it tested backwards, forwards, up and down, so you are sure this technology works?


I haven't looked through all the posts in this thread, but if this is some overunity stuff, you should be 110% sure it works.
Most important, when selling something wonderful, with a high price tag, you need to expose the inner workings. Let independent people examine your machine in full.


People has been fooled too many times on claimed overunity devices, nobody will buy it unless you can prove beyond doubt that it works. That means long time operation without input energy. We talk about weeks or months of continous operation, with no human interference or energy inputs of any kind.


Vidar

Hi guys,
1) We are selling a revolutionary electric technology for 10 (ten) million dollars. Our revolutionary electric technology increases (twice as a minimum and more than 25 times as a maximum) the distance traveled by a standard now-existing electric vehicle on a single charge. Our revolutionary electric technology is cheap, safe and reliable and is practically ready for production on a large industrial scale. There is a working prototype/experimental device.
2) In addition to our revolutionary electric technology we reveal ABSOLUTELY FREE the secret of the principle of operation of a revolutionary reactionless drive -- just like Baron Munchasen who lifted himself up by pulling his own hair. Please look at our two basic posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM.
3) The combination of the previous item 1 and item 2 would lead inevitably to an unique reactionless propulsion vehicle -- no transmissions, no propellers, no high-velocity hot gases, no high-temperature resistant materials, no high-pressure resistant materials, no sophisticated design and no sophisticated technology and NO POLLUTION(!), but only a simple electromechanical system, able to cover effectively great distances.
Looking forward to your answer.
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Acca on June 21, 2019, 01:15:17 PM
Clip from Russian space station a Reaction-less puller..
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PNclxVYBuD1BkBOaGlndyjulHc_coNvb/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PNclxVYBuD1BkBOaGlndyjulHc_coNvb/view)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5RnjeTvuNk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5RnjeTvuNk)
The anti-gravity engine of Leonova <ins><ins><ins></ins></ins></ins>Speaking of a quantum engine, Vladimir Leonov does not mean the classical scheme of a photon engine, where thrust is created by annihilation of matter and antimatter. The scientist, working on new physics, creates devices that work on the basis of the elasticity of space and energy of gravitational waves. Unfortunately, the army of scientists tries not to touch upon similar topics, and continues to improve what is already hopelessly outdated. In order to clarify the necessity of transition to new principles of motion in space, it suffices to say that the specific impulse of modern carrier rockets is only twice that of the rocket of Werner von Braun. That is, the physical limit of liquid rocket engines has been reached. Nuclear engines are dangerous, and electric engines have a low thrust and are not suitable for starting from the Earth. This is why Leonov's anti-gravity engine is so important. In case of successful implementation of the project, engineering and technology are awaited by incredible transformations, which can not even be imagined. Suffice it to say that with a quantum engine, a spacecraft will reach the Moon in three and a half hours, and Mars in just two days ...Sound signals should sound immediately. The initial and final state of the system looks exactly the same, and yet we have extracted energy from the system. This is, at last, an eternal machine, which everyone dreams about? To solve this paradox, we must carefully study each of the individual operations. The laws of physics for any closed system are reversible, and therefore our approach is to locate the one that hides an irreversible operation. Obvious candidates are the process of measurement or, perhaps, the installation of a shutter or piston.


 
https://housepic.ru/en/antigravity-engine-development-russia-successfully-tested-the-antigravity-engine-of-the-lion.html (https://housepic.ru/en/antigravity-engine-development-russia-successfully-tested-the-antigravity-engine-of-the-lion.html)





 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on June 23, 2019, 02:45:54 PM
Hi guys,
--------------------
1) We are selling a revolutionary electric technology for 10 (ten) million dollars. Our revolutionary electric technology increases (twice as a minimum and more than 25 times as a maximum) the distance traveled by a standard now-existing electric vehicle on a single charge. Our revolutionary electric technology is cheap, safe and reliable and is practically ready for production on a large industrial scale. There is a working prototype/experimental device.
--------------------
2) In addition to our revolutionary electric technology we reveal ABSOLUTELY FREE the secret of the principle of operation of a revolutionary reactionless drive -- just like Baron Munchasen who lifted himself up by pulling his own hair. Please look at our two basic posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM.
AND VERY IMPORTANT -- THE PRINCIPLE OF OPERATION OF OUR REVOLUTIONARY REACTIONLESS DRIVE MUST BE EVALUATED ONLY BY HIGHLY QUALIFIED EXPERTS IN THEORETICAL AND APPLIED MECHANICS! 
--------------------
3) The combination of the previous item 1 and item 2 would lead inevitably to an unique reactionless propulsion vehicle -- no transmissions, no propellers, no high-velocity hot gases, no high-temperature resistant materials, no high-pressure resistant materials, no sophisticated design and no sophisticated technology and NO POLLUTION(!), but only a simple electromechanical system, able to cover effectively great distances.
--------------------
Looking forward to your answer.
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Acca on June 23, 2019, 06:52:14 PM
You should at least show a photo of this 10 million dollar machine ...
As to why you are posting this here as this overunity forum is to reverse engineer your type of machine ?
 ...and the principle of operation.. as we don't want anything that is just another radioactive Harold Coleman power generator..


Acca...


Ps I want only 5 million for my method of accelerating time .."machine"..I have to sell it as I am old..



Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Acca on June 23, 2019, 07:38:58 PM
Soo... I forgot to ask you if this technology is stolen Russian reaction-less device by Vladimir Leonov as shown in the ISS clip..  I posted the link on the previous page as Leonov just uploaded the clip two days ago on his youtube channel..  I think that this is soo..  You have to really by honest here as Russians already have the unit in gravity-less ISS and doing engineering application based experiments for the uni-directional drive..


So unless you can prove your claim with photos the Russians have patents already and disclosed this method..


However Americans are still debating if it is even possible to have uni-directional thrust with no counter reaction..


Sooo ...too bad as this is 100 times more efficient and like Robert Cook described this in his book "The death or rocketry" in the 1980's  and patent..The cat is now out of the brown paper bag.. and you are now on the sidelines..


Acca.. 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on June 29, 2019, 10:21:37 AM
Hi Acca,
Hi Low-Q/Vidar,
Thank you for your replies.
The links you have sent to us have nothing to do with our technologies and conceptions. But these links are very interesting and we need some time to consider them carefully.
George 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 02, 2019, 09:07:07 AM
To Acca and Low-Q/Vidar.
--------------------------------
Hi guys,
1) We considered carefully the last links that have been sent. As mentioned in our last post our technologies and conceptions have nothing to do with these links, i.e., our technologies and conceptions have nothing to do with antigravity and quantum energetics. We describe only a simple mechanical system consisting of four simpe mechanical components. As for the clip, describing the Russian reactionless puller, we suspect that this is some kind of pneumatic system which uses for support the air inside the cabin and actually this is not a reactionless puller.
2) And what is your opinion about our two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM? Zigzags imitate resistance, identical to friction, but without generating heat, don't they?
Looking forward to your answer.
George     
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on July 02, 2019, 10:24:59 AM
To Acca and Low-Q/Vidar.
--------------------------------
Hi guys,
1) We considered carefully the last links that have been sent. As mentioned in our last post our technologies and conceptions have nothing to do with these links, i.e., our technologies and conceptions have nothing to do with antigravity and quantum energetics. We describe only a simple mechanical system consisting of four simpe mechanical components. As for the clip, describing the Russian reactionless puller, we suspect that this is some kind of pneumatic system which uses for support the air inside the cabin and actually this is not a reactionless puller.
2) And what is your opinion about our two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM? Zigzags imitate resistance, identical to friction, but without generating heat, don't they?
Looking forward to your answer.
George     
The only force that somewhat imitate friction is a constant acceleration of mass, but then you gain kinetic energy as the velocity increase.
The "friction" you talk about does not involve any increase of kinetic energy due to mass acceleration, so therefor the friction must cause heat.


So, to answer your last question, the zigzags generate heat if you cannot recover 100% of the "friction" to do useful work.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 03, 2019, 02:30:53 PM
To Low-Q/Vidar
---------------------------
Hi Vidar,
You greatly disappoint me, my friend!
You have written: "The only force that somewhat imitate friction is a constant acceleration of mass, but then you gain kinetic energy as the velocity increase.
The "friction" you talk about does not involve any increase of kinetic energy due to mass acceleration, so therefor the friction must cause heat. So, to answer your last question, the zigzags generate heat if you cannot recover 100% of the "friction" to do useful work." There is no sense in this composition of words. This is for example something like the following sentence: " The Moon is black and it walks around the green tree." Grammatically correct, but absurd.
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 03, 2019, 02:39:05 PM
To Low-Q/Vidar
---------------------------
Hi Vidar,
You greatly disappoint me, my friend!
You have written: "The only force that somewhat imitate friction is a constant acceleration of mass, but then you gain kinetic energy as the velocity increase. The "friction" you talk about does not involve any increase of kinetic energy due to mass acceleration, so therefor the friction must cause heat. So, to answer your last question, the zigzags generate heat if you cannot recover 100% of the "friction" to do useful work." There is no sense in this composition of words. This is for example something like the following sentence: " The Moon is black and it walks around the green tree." Grammatically correct, but absurd.
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 03, 2019, 02:40:48 PM
I don't know why my last post has been sent two times in a row. I am not responsible for this.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on July 03, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
To Low-Q/Vidar
---------------------------
Hi Vidar,
You greatly disappoint me, my friend!
You have written: "The only force that somewhat imitate friction is a constant acceleration of mass, but then you gain kinetic energy as the velocity increase. The "friction" you talk about does not involve any increase of kinetic energy due to mass acceleration, so therefor the friction must cause heat. So, to answer your last question, the zigzags generate heat if you cannot recover 100% of the "friction" to do useful work." There is no sense in this composition of words. This is for example something like the following sentence: " The Moon is black and it walks around the green tree." Grammatically correct, but absurd.
George
Sorry for disapointing you. I hope you can provide an understandable explanation to why the zig-zag does not loose energy to heat, and why friction, per definition, doesn't create heat.
My purpose was not to disappoint you, but putting down my thoughts on the subject.
Mechanical systems follows mechanical physics. There is no workaround to avoid a physical device to violate its physical nature.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 03, 2019, 03:05:00 PM
Vidar,
1) But you haven't read at all the two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. PLEASE READ THEM CAREFULLY!
2) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." Any objections against this last claim?
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on July 04, 2019, 12:30:20 AM
Vidar,
1) But you haven't read at all the two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. PLEASE READ THEM CAREFULLY!
2) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." Any objections against this last claim?
George
What's written is one thing. How your device work in real life is another thing.
I strongly believe it is smart to do the practice first, then figure out how it works. Anyone can write down ones ideas, claims, etc, but that does not prove anything.


For 10 million dollars, you really need to prove your claims. The one and only way to do that, is to build the thing, and exmine how it works - not only by you, but by independent people without influence of the inventor. Avoiding anything that would possibly bias the examiners work and results.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 04, 2019, 10:28:14 AM
Hi guys,
------------------------------
1) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
------------------------------
2) Because the lack of objections inevitably leads to a generation of a violation/exception of the rule/law of conservation of linear momentum. (I will remind again that any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing special, tragic and disturbing in this fact.)
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3) Previous item 2 inevitably leads on its behalf to a possibility of designing and manufacturing of a reactionless drive.
------------------------------
How to explain the things in a simpler and easier manner?
George
=================
P.S. To Vidar. Firstly, (1) our reactionless drive conception and (2) our revolutionary electric technology are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. Secondly, as far as I can see you have no objections against the claim of item 1. Thirdly, if you have 10 million dollars, then we could start negotiating about our electric technology. And fourthly, the reactionless drive motor could be either (a) some kind of electric technology or (b) an internal combustion engine or (c) a steam engine or (d) a steam turbine combined with some nuclear device for example, etc. (You can even integrate the reactionless drive with some bycicle-like device and use your muscle power.) And at last, you, Sven and I are viking descendants and we have to support each other and not to confront.         



Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on July 05, 2019, 11:21:58 PM
.......... And at last, you, Sven and I are viking descendants and we have to support each other and not to confront.         
Supporting each other is not the same as agreeing to everything. Confrontations are something else I think - like something that happend when the vikings boarded the northern shore of Scotland and took with them the most beautiful nuns back to Norway...


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 06, 2019, 11:56:28 AM
Hi Vidar,
A) Yes, you are right about the words "support'" and "confront" -- I did not use them in the most suitable way.
===================
B) But let us get back to the essence of this discussion. I am sending again the text of one of our last posts.
===================
1) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
------------------------------
2) Because the lack of objections inevitably leads to a generation of a violation/exception of the rule/law of conservation of linear momentum. (I will remind again that any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing special, tragic and disturbing in this fact.)
------------------------------
3) Previous item 2 inevitably leads on its behalf to a possibility of designing and manufacturing of a reactionless drive.
===================
How to explain the things in a simpler and easier manner?
------------------------------
Do you agree with items 1, 2 and 3?
Looking forward to your answer.
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 14, 2019, 02:29:07 PM
Some idiots try to imitate us coppying the name of our topic. Please don't pay attention to their writings.
George 1 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 14, 2019, 02:36:43 PM
Please don't pay attention to the writings of that old cheater whose name is losiledlighting. The latter has nothing to do with us.
George 1
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on July 17, 2019, 12:32:53 AM
Hi Vidar,
A) Yes, you are right about the words "support'" and "confront" -- I did not use them in the most suitable way.
===================
B) But let us get back to the essence of this discussion. I am sending again the text of one of our last posts.
===================
1) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
------------------------------
2) Because the lack of objections inevitably leads to a generation of a violation/exception of the rule/law of conservation of linear momentum. (I will remind again that any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing special, tragic and disturbing in this fact.)
------------------------------
3) Previous item 2 inevitably leads on its behalf to a possibility of designing and manufacturing of a reactionless drive.
===================
How to explain the things in a simpler and easier manner?
------------------------------
Do you agree with items 1, 2 and 3?
Looking forward to your answer.
George
I can't agree with item 1, 2 or 3 unless you have experimental results that confirms the hypothetis.
Any idea or hypothetis is often biased, meaning that the idea feels so right, one can't see the error in it.
I do not say there is an error in your hypothetis, but the possibility for an error that you will discover when you tests the hypothetis in pratice, is there.
Besides, the explanation written May 10.th, and repeated May 16.th is not refering to figures that is easily accessable from the page where the explanation is written.
That makes it time consuming to follow.


Make some precise building plans, follow the plans, and build it. Untill then, I cannot comment any further.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 18, 2019, 05:51:12 PM
Well, you are a stubborn colleague Norseman! :)
OK, let us start again. Starting again with item 1.
---------------------------
1) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
---------------------------
Looking forward to your answer.
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 28, 2019, 01:54:08 PM
Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
---------------------------
Looking forward to your answer.
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on August 03, 2019, 02:36:06 PM
Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
----------------------------
1) As far as we can see there aren't any objections against this last claim. Besides a simple experiment, which was repeated many times, confirmed the validity of Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0. We developed an entirely new and original technology able to decrease standard sliding friction hundreds (and even thousands) of times thus reducing hundreds (and even thousands) of times experimental error due to friction. (In principle modern technologies allow reducing of friction practically as much as you want thus reducing as much as you want the experimental error due to friction.)
----------------------------
2) Our general intention is to suggest to the audience an electro-mechanical reactionless drive without any pollution.The secret of the principle of operation of the mechanical component of the system has been already revealed ABSOLUTELY FREE in this topic. The electrical component of the system however is not free an we sell it for 10 (ten) million dollars.
And here is our key business proposal. It is evident that most members of this forum are creative persons of non-standard and original way of thinking. (Not a flattery, but a true real fact.) If a certain member of this forum manages to help us to sell the electrical component of the system for 10 (ten) million dollars, then he/she would immediately receive 1 (one) million dollars and an invitation to join our team of inventors (if he/she wants to join us and work with us, of course.)
----------------------------
Looking forward to your answers.
George       
   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on August 11, 2019, 11:55:16 AM
Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." (Experimentally proved) ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
-----------------------
Many people here are simply afraid of truth. A very sad fact!
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on August 19, 2019, 09:54:08 AM
Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." (Experimentally proved) ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
-----------------------
No objections?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on August 25, 2019, 12:50:50 PM
Still no objections? Shall we write a new textbook of physics? :)
We need (1) brave collaborators/partners of non-standard and original way of thinking and (2) 10 million dollars for further perfection of our next inventions as performing of precise, exact and high-quality scientific experiments is an EXPENSIVE business.
Looking forward to your answer.
George1   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 01, 2019, 01:34:56 PM
Deep silence again? :)
STILL NO OBJECTIONS WITHIN A PERIOD OF MORE THAN ONE MONTH?
It is a matter of (1) a perpetual motion machine and (2) a reactionless drive simultaneously, isn't it? Where are the Nobel prize committee representatives? :)
Any candidates for buying the secret of our electric technology and/or for collaboration with us? (Our team welcomes new members of non-standard and original way of thinking.)
George1
   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 08, 2019, 01:58:22 PM
Deep silence second month and still no objections? This unambiguously shows that it is really a matter of a serious technology breakthrough! And because of this the price of our electric technology has been increased. Our electric technology costs already 20 million dollars. (Please don't worry -- we are not greedy. The greater part of the money will be used for charity.)
Looking forward to your answer.
George1 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on September 09, 2019, 10:25:12 PM
It might be a different reason to why it has been scilent for months, than you might think. The first thing that comes to mind, is that the posts here is repeated over and over, about something mechanical. Something that obeys laws of physics - as all other mechanical systems do (sorry).
You need to build this to convince yourself, and us. The outcome is however predicted already by everyone except yourself ;)


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: lancaIV on September 09, 2019, 11:34:19 PM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20160727&CC=CY&NR=1113918T1&KC=T1#

                                                                26.12.2012
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP08872337&tab=main
https://register.epo.org/application?lng=en&number=EP08872337&tab=main
It seems this machine does not obey the defined laws
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on September 10, 2019, 02:37:19 PM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20160727&CC=CY&NR=1113918T1&KC=T1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20160727&CC=CY&NR=1113918T1&KC=T1#)

                                                                26.12.2012
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP08872337&tab=main (https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP08872337&tab=main)
https://register.epo.org/application?lng=en&number=EP08872337&tab=main (https://register.epo.org/application?lng=en&number=EP08872337&tab=main)
It seems this machine does not obey the defined laws
I cannot find anything in these documents that does not obey the laws of physics. Please point out where you find the OU. I cannot find it.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: lancaIV on September 10, 2019, 02:50:22 PM
[0020] ......which the efficiency is appreciable increased..... NO PERCENTAGE, NO NUMERICAL NUMBER

[0022] ...... August 2008 ...

Maerz( prototype), April( the Arestov xing-article/offer), Mai, Juni, Juli, August 2008 :

                                              Linevich Unwuchtmotor

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.xing.com%2Fcommunities%2Fposts%2Fdie-alternative-stromanlage-bei-einer-leistungsaufnahme-von-nur-25-watt-entwickelt-der-motor-eine-leistung-1001254727 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.xing.com%2Fcommunities%2Fposts%2Fdie-alternative-stromanlage-bei-einer-leistungsaufnahme-von-nur-25-watt-entwickelt-der-motor-eine-leistung-1001254727)
Prototyp : 25 in and 400 out numbered detail and 400/25= 1600% as percentage
for given experimental construction


But based by the received commercial EP Grant this does not obey the laws. !  ;)
Probably you know: many U. S.  Patent office grants are withdrawn by the EP Patent office. !
In the U. S. probably commercial save,  in the EP estates : open source. !

U. S. Patent office grant conditions obey European Patent office grant conditioning
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 15, 2019, 11:30:41 AM
Well, I am repeating hundreds of times one and same thing.
I am repeating again!
Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0."
---------------------------
ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
---------------------------
Looking forward to your answer.
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 20, 2019, 09:37:49 AM
YOU SIMPLY FEAR THE TRUTH!
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Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0."
---------------------------
DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 21, 2019, 12:19:51 PM
I WILL REPEAT WITH CONFIDENCE WHAT I HAVE FORMERLY AFFIRMED -- YOU SIMPLY FEAR THE TRUTH!
------------------------------------
Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0."
---------------------------
DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 29, 2019, 01:30:31 PM
Still no objections? This is because no objections can be invented. ;)
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: lancaIV on September 29, 2019, 02:05:32 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.tagesspiegel.de%2Fgesellschaft%2Fpanorama%2Fnach-milliarden-scheidung-ex-frau-von-amazon-chef-will-haelfte-ihres-vermoegens-spenden%2F24392228.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.tagesspiegel.de%2Fgesellschaft%2Fpanorama%2Fnach-milliarden-scheidung-ex-frau-von-amazon-chef-will-haelfte-ihres-vermoegens-spenden%2F24392228.html)
Give yourself the reazons/arguments that the 4th richest woman on earth should invest or donate 10 or 20 millions €/$ in your/team idea/concept.  !?
TV- invention-investment-show participation. ?
https://www.vox.de/cms/sendungen/die-hoehle-der-loewen.html (https://www.vox.de/cms/sendungen/die-hoehle-der-loewen.html)

Capital venture event participation.,worldwide ?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=capital+venture+fair&oq=capital+venture+fair&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5 (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=capital+venture+fair&oq=capital+venture+fair&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5)


IENA/GENF INVENTION Exposition participation. ?
http://www.iena.de/de/home.html (http://www.iena.de/de/home.html)

http://inventions-geneva.ch/en/home/ (http://inventions-geneva.ch/en/home/)


http://www.borderlands.de/index1n.php3 (http://www.borderlands.de/index1n.php3)
http://www.transaltec.ch/facma/design.php?design=2 (http://www.transaltec.ch/facma/design.php?design=2). Adolf and Inge Schneider

X-Prize. ? Richard Branson ( Virgin group, billionaer) Prize. ?




Btw. : you have  the concept -dossier ready,  with a.  manufacturing-  b. production then - lease - selling costs and prices?

The pros/cons list related conventional in market/ in pipe( ~ R&D) competitors/ converters. ?
A functional prototype for the demonstration from your theory in practise. ?


 Capital Venture 100 visits : 99 " good bye and good luck " and only 1 " Stay, new Partner! "
Joint-venture participation Quote. ? 10%,25,1%,49,9%,50,1%,74,9%,75,1%  ?
 Win-win up to loose/loose ad-venture risk ratio
Sharing the capital quotes and capital loose risk with many partners. ? Kickstarter et cet.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 29, 2019, 02:28:39 PM
Hi lanca IV.
Thank you for your reply.
1) As if you have interesting suggestions again. Please give me some time to consider carefully the links you have posted here.
2) We tried many times to contact Richard Branson, but we always failed. Do you have any idea for how to contact this man?
Looking forward to your answer.
George 
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: lancaIV on September 29, 2019, 02:49:13 PM
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/komoto-fans-heat-2000sf-for-4-cents-per-hour#/ (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/komoto-fans-heat-2000sf-for-4-cents-per-hour#/)
                        3656 $ investment pleased
                          reached : 16%  or 593 $

How great is the indiegogo audience in number. ?
How important is energy and costs savings  ?

What is the Investor and consumer real priority. ?

To see and feel him-/her-self and by others by the " ecce homo ! " - moment
PROUDNESS AND PRESTIGE
To reached the sky  !
UNFORGETABLE MOMENT  !

When the energy/electricity market becomes liberized and volative : from positive cents/KWh costs down to negative cents/KWh costs ( the producer has to pay ) what are the own competition conditions. ?
Fix costs/ open market costs

Your 10/20 millions demand divided by how many devices/KW installations   ?= basic fix cost


Richard Branson : " ... man" ? " .....   person " !
I can here play " the Punk" but I am educated by " old school"-rules and so do know the border lines.

You visiting your possible investors become observed,  your profile in the Internet dislosed ( there are professional company's/servants who do this for their clients)
crime statistic
 https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FF%25C3%25BChrungszeugnis (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FF%25C3%25BChrungszeugnis)
External and the Internal ( the second : secret area related;  estatal/industrial aso.  )

and probably ,before contract assignment : finance sector rating ( living standart / by cash or high credit)



To know the rules of the game and making " the Partner( his ambient : family, curriculum vitae)  transparent


Your device/-s : ready for UAL/TUEV approvement. ?


Why not the B. O. S. - scheme : you build - you operate-you sell,  this is today industrial common solution
Are you in financial hurry, do your team player want to see fast money return. ?

Giving an break-even-point : 1 Euro-cent/KWh electricity Generation

How far are you away from this flat/base : 1,5/2,0/.... Euro-cents
                                                                             0,75/0,5/... Euro-cent

                                     ???   Questions and answers. !?
Who shall manufacture the physical devices : are they not worth as industrial project partners. ?

                                                           A LITTLE MORE CAUTION :
Kybernetik : from Men-Machine society to Machine-Men society development, this we are

Instead " Machine" also nameable Virtuosity or https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm)

                        "ZEITGEIST"                           COGITO ERGO DESIGN.

You probably also know that this " man" is not a Knight, not an OBE, but a SIR Richard Branson.Did he studied on an Uni?  Degree?  PROMOTION/HABILITATION/ HONORARY-DOCENT ?

What do you know about the 80' : the Virgin label,later Virgin Megastore and Virgin airline. ?Free speech and free mind and free knowledge and free interests interchange during conversation. !

THE " HINTS" in this 25 millions prize  ? ( the small written conditioning. ! Acceptable by both sides. ? )
https://www.virginearth.com/the-prize/ (https://www.virginearth.com/the-prize/)

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britische_Jungferninseln (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britische_Jungferninseln) here he has his private isle/island

Clearly :
Hi Richii ,you rich cool motherf****,all okay ? I have the shit, the super- dooper heavy machine !
also possible !


Be satisfied to get from his bureau/ secretary a positive comment and the invitation for more this concept clearing details  by your first trial  !

20/10 millions as lump sum or in rates/tranches per1/2 - 1 year payment ?

Business Angel/-s,this is what you need ;
or you decide for professional consultance : 1000 Euros per day( excellent professionals: 400€ per hour)
https://www.google.com/search?q=buisiness+angel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=buisiness+angel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

RICHDOM diversification : 1 rule : never more than 10% in one investment ( excluded company owner : solely investment and liquidity source)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.diepresse.com%2F5226461%2Fstartup-aus-oberostereich-greift-nach-us-patenten-fur-salzwasser-zellen (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.diepresse.com%2F5226461%2Fstartup-aus-oberostereich-greift-nach-us-patenten-fur-salzwasser-zellen)               
                                       2,8 Million assets value

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fenergyload.eu%2Fstromspeicher%2Fstromspeicher-energiewende-startups%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fenergyload.eu%2Fstromspeicher%2Fstromspeicher-energiewende-startups%2F)
                                 from over 200 millions investment

How rich are the aquion-Investors   before the insolvency ?

How high was the aquion-share quoted before the insolvency  ?

Total investors richdom divided cash aquion- investment sum  ?
IPO : aquion investment sum/ aquion.    a. total  b free market    share quotes value
aquion total assets value after insolvency/

  For some people 20 millions are " peanuts" and
they or their foundations administrates thousands of those "nuts"

You can be perfect organized but your possible partner feels him at this moment in the wrong place and by the wrong time and give the for you wrong decision : " NO,no interest ! Good bye and good luck !"

                           FUZZY LOGIK :                   
                         you are ever wellcome in the " 99%- No, thank you ! # metoo " club

Daimler-Benz : a project was presented to the administration and received the "R&D"- budget okay. !
                           The engineers of this project were funny. !
                          the same project presented a second time to the same administration
                                                  got "R&D"- budgetting withdrawn/ rejected



                         LIFE IS FUNNY  ::) AND THE RULES SO CLEAR  8)
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: lancaIV on September 30, 2019, 11:17:49 AM
"...When the energy / electricity market becomes liberized and volatile : ..... "
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/CDU-Spitze-will-die-EEG-Umlage-abschaffen-article21302770.html (https://www.n-tv.de/politik/CDU-Spitze-will-die-EEG-Umlage-abschaffen-article21302770.html)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpolitik%2FCDU-Spitze-will-die-EEG-Umlage-abschaffen-article21302770.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpolitik%2FCDU-Spitze-will-die-EEG-Umlage-abschaffen-article21302770.html)
Flat rate : in-flat- ion/ stag-flat-ion/de-flat-ion/re-flat-ion
Working by free market conditioning or " manipulated" market prices by inflated "net rate back"- warranty by the estate !?

What happened in Spain with the electricity market and the energy investment values when the estate abolished the " net return rate" per KWh  !?
LEGAL !?  BY MACRO-ECONOMY LAWS AND ORDER ?
YES !?  EACH U. N.  ESTATE ECONOMY PRIORITY :
GENERAL EFFICIENCY RULE, german : Allgemeine Wirtschaftsgebot. ; "gebot"= DEMAND

The consequence for the energy generator producer ( wind,solar,...)  national,in Germany. !?
"HARD FACTS WARRANTY" OR "SOFT FACTS WARRANTY"  ?


Gefaehrliches Fahrwasser aehnlich https://www.google.com/search?q=silvio+gesell&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=silvio+gesell&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m) and the WW2- prediction  :
EURO- KREDIT-COMMUNISMUS
DOLLAR-CREDIT-COMMUNISM

Science Punk or geral science anarchy by other

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=lassale+Sozialismus+haengematte&oq=&aqs= (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=lassale+Sozialismus+haengematte&oq=&aqs=)
and care caridade charity :
why do you think,George1, that YOU has ( has and not have ! 3.pers.pl.m ~ THE) the MUST to DECIDE to notplease a lower  lump sum ( or rates/ tranches)for your material and idealistic concept. ?Is the chance to give probably investors lower investment risk and later lower endconsumer lease or selling price not charity enough. ?

Are you in hurry to leave Planet EARTH/ERDE vulgo TELLUS. ?
Together ? : https://www.spacex.com/ (https://www.spacex.com/)  Co-investor : Elon Musk

Which is the actual liquid/net salary in your country/estate, statistical : from 100% , from the upper 90%/ down 90% :does 2500/5000/10000 €/$ per month/ quartal /semester not change the living standart from you and your team  ?
You work by ultimative decisions : from 10 millions to 20 millions. !
When you will demand 50 millions. ?
ARROGANZ : classical and meaning 2019 p. C.n.  ?!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(character (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(character))
  from V. I. P. s   to  T. V. I. P. s


https://patentauction.com/ (https://patentauction.com/)     how many "George1"-Characters will we refind there. ?
If there is an offer : for a 260 billion market only 500.000 US$ investment ( hints?)
how much thinks an other one with an 20 years patent validation - up calculated - market value about 600 billions $ to receive as offer : " make an offer" this inventor please. !?

Married?  What thinks your wife about you  ?Having child/-s. ?  What "WELTBILD" from you he/they would imaging/ printing on a white virgin page. ?
George1,here you are fiction,  in your day-by-day life I hope real/-ly. !
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: lancaIV on September 30, 2019, 02:19:59 PM


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(character (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(character))
  from V. I. P. s   to  T. V. I. P. s

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/bonhomie (https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/bonhomie) ::)
 https://www.spurensuche.info/wp-spurensuche/portfolio/madeleinedelbrel/ (https://www.spurensuche.info/wp-spurensuche/portfolio/madeleinedelbrel/)    ?
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Everywhere/nowhere soul-brothers and everywhere/ nowhere soul-sisters  ?  ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fcdkwdfz0GA

Do we - by common sense - want to become " soul-wolves" ?
https://cbs.riken.jp/en/faculty/t.fukai/ (https://cbs.riken.jp/en/faculty/t.fukai/)

https://www.heise.de/tp/autoren/?autor=Erich%20Bieramperl (https://www.heise.de/tp/autoren/?autor=Erich%20Bieramperl)

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Gesegnete Mahlzeit. !

.... Denn Dein - ist das Reich
               und.  - die Kraft
               bis.    - in alle Ewigkeit

Knowing the rules from the game : wellcome in " ENGEL-LAND" ,where " time out/off" commands

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Kid, when you grow up what do you want to become. ?
A GIGAJOULE-CONSUMER, LIKE ALL THE OTHERS  !
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IT found his sin of life ,like ALL the others, is it not. ? :)
The Future : 8,9,10  ?  GIGA(JOULE) Factories consuming Planet Earth

George1 , where is your Drake. ? ( Philosophical Internet- Patron?)
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 GEORGE1.    MEETS   1EGROEG. ?
Ca c' est seulement un(e) amusement, stay happy. !
GEORGE1: 1989 PERSPECTIVE  2049: RETROSPECTIVE
SEULEMENT UN(E)  AMUSEMENT. !
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+ #whichmindisreal
+ # whichfutureisreal
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on October 06, 2019, 02:40:14 PM
Hi lancaIV,
1) Thanks a lot for your last posts. You have sent again a plenty of good and interesting ideas. Please give us some time to consider carefully all materials you have posted.   
2) I do not know whether you are an expert in theoretical and applied mechanics or not. If yes, then what is your opinion about the zigzag mechanical conception of this topic? Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: lancaIV on October 07, 2019, 11:25:43 AM
George1,83499 members has this forum. !
Read the several members response/comments to your idea, write the pos/cons on a paper, avail by yourself 
the worth from their positive/negative critics/ judgement/ validation. !
How far/ near as help for your progress  !?
A successfull work wishing
OCWL
p.s.: I can by my mind and opinion ever be wrong. ! This is my own responsibility  !
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on October 13, 2019, 02:32:51 PM
To lanca IV.
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Hi lanca IV,
Thanks a lot for your reply. Thank you for your last good advice. I will follow it.
Any other good idea is welcome.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on October 13, 2019, 02:51:27 PM
Hi guys,
1) Although overunity.com is not a typically commercial website we would like to make a business offer. If some member of this forum "invents" a method/way/approach for selling of our electric technology as a trade secret for 20 million dollars, then he/she would immediately receive 1 million of these 20 million dollars. (Google is a typical example of a high-tech business (1) which is a not-patented trade secret and (2) which works successfully as a perfect money-making machine.)
2) Let me remind you again that our electric technology increases many times (twice as a minimum) the distance traveled by any standard now-existing electric vehicle on a single charge. Our electric technology has a successfully working prototype.
3) And here is again an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on October 19, 2019, 02:33:56 PM
Isn't there any highly qualified expert in theoretical and applied mechanics in this forum who has enough bravery and good will to admit unambiguously that our zigzag mechanical conception represents the principle of operation of a reactionless drive?   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on October 27, 2019, 01:29:18 PM
And here is again an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM? THE LATTER HAS BEEN EXPERIMENTALLY PROVED ALREADY MANY TIMES.   
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 02, 2019, 09:40:07 AM
Still no objections within a period of almost three months?! It is evident therefore that most human minds are heavily infected by some kind of mental poison which does not allow them to see and accept obvious theoretical and EXPERIMENTAL(!) facts. Very sad! :(
Am I right? 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 10, 2019, 02:49:54 PM
Here is again an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM? THE LATTER HAS BEEN EXPERIMENTALLY PROVED ALREADY MANY TIMES.   
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 12, 2019, 08:36:55 AM
“RD” checks out.
PM, I don’t see that but.....




Even if we simplify the situation
Take the zig-zags, or a washboard whatever
And a ‘rake’, that brushes across it in only one direction
The force of friction will have a vector
And as such, will impart motive force on the system as a whole.


Like the impact boat on crack


Need a real world example? Jerk the shake-weight only in one direction.

Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 17, 2019, 04:24:01 PM
Hi smOky2,
Thanks a lot for your reply. And thank you for your good words -- all members of our team (including myself) are really pathological enthusiasts! 
1) What is PM?
2) Actually I could not understand your arguments. Please give me some time to consider them carefully. (It seems to me that we are talking about different things.)
3) Meanwhile would you be so polite to consider carefully our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM and especially the following sentence: "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." Do you have any objections against this last claim? The latter has been experimentally proved many times.     
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 23, 2019, 09:43:14 AM
The principle of operation of a reactionless drive seems to be already a reality.
Please consider carefully again our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM and especially the following sentence: "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." Do you have any objections against this last claim? The latter has been experimentally proved many times.     
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 24, 2019, 02:07:22 PM
Any opinion related to our yesterday post?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 30, 2019, 08:57:25 AM
Deep silence again? :o Still no objections? This is because it is impossible to deny experimental facts.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 07, 2019, 03:12:26 PM
1) Still no objections against our zigzag mechanical concept? You simply fear the truth thus stopping the technology progress. And because of this we are increasing now the price of our electric technology, which is able to increase twice (as a minimum) the distance traveled by a standard electric vehicle on a single charge. The price of this electric technology is now 30 (thirty) million dollars. And this price will further increase if our zigzag mechanical concept (i.e. the reactionless drive) does not win public recognition.
2) We shared openly and freely two inventions of ours and these are (1) the reactionless drive, considered in this topic, and (2) the electric heater, described in the topic A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1. And still these two inventions cannot win public recognition. That is why our next several inventions will not be free.   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 08, 2019, 09:04:44 AM
George, have you constructed a zig-zag device to show us?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 10, 2019, 07:00:20 PM
Hi SmOky2,
Thank you for your last post.
Yes, we have constructed an experimental zig-zag device for the third link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/please_have_a_look.pdf.
But there are two obstacles for showing it and these two obstacles are as follows.
1) Obstacle 1: It would take too much time (especially time!), money and human resources in order to make a high quality professional video. But this obstacle is, let's say, avoidable more or less.
2) Obstacle 2: A member of our team, who is a top expert in tribology (as well as in other technology areas, but tribology is his favorite branch of science), has invented an entirely new and an extremely effective, simple and cheap method for strong reducing of sliding friction. This method is used in the zig-zag device and if we show the zig-zag device, then we will show the new method of decreasing of sliding friction too. Our inventor however does not want to show publicly his sliding-friction-reducing method for the present. We have to obey his decision. But I promise to do my best to persuade our sliding-friction-reducing method inventor to change his mind in the nearest future. Please give me some time.
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Meanwhile you could do by yourself the zig-zag experiment in the third link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/please_have_a_look.pdf even on your garage floor. The experiment is extremely simple and cheap. You can use even ordinary lubricants and you only have to add some correction coefficient related to the experimental error due to friction. Besides if you manage to reduce friction enough, then the experimental error due to friction can be neglected.
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And at last a simple elementary logic unambiguously shows that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0. Simple logic and simple math. Like 1+1=2. Practically no need of experiment.
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Looking forward to your answer.
George