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Title: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM
IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?

This seems to me a great technology revolution! As if these guys are extremely gifted engineers! Please look at the two links below:

https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf

https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf

The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.

Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.

The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.

Alternatively, you can run a search in Google for the phrase "HOW BARON MUNCHAUSEN CAN LIFT HIMSELF INTO THE AIR BY PULLING HIMSELF UP BY HIS OWN HAIR" (with capital letters).

You can contact the inventors at randdgroup34@gmail.com.

And most important, in order to understand the text and the related Figs.1-6, you have to be an expert in the field of theoretical and applied mechanics

My friends and I are extremely curious about the opinions of the colleagues, who are members of the world community, related to reactionless propulsion systems, alternative sources of energy and other non-standard technology problems.

What do you think about the experiment described in the links above? As if everything seems to be perfect? As if this is really a reactionless propulsion system and/or a perpetual motion machine?

Besides these guys suggest another technology revolution. Their  second technology breakthrough increases drastically the distance travelled by a standard electric car on a single charge. And what do you think about this electric technology? 

Eagerly looking forward to your answer.

Best regards

George Sen
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on August 26, 2018, 11:42:09 AM
I do not see any comments. No one here is interested in reactionless drive?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: aether22 on August 28, 2018, 07:55:40 AM
I do not see any comments. No one here is interested in reactionless drive?


It's more a case of "wait, so I have to read a bunch of low contrast handwriting and math that might go over my head, and the only alternative is some meaningless cryptic images that by themselves explain nothing"...




Also, if you break the conservation of momentum, then you break the conservation of energy either way.


Also, finally, most attempts to violate mathematical laws with math fall flat, they are mistakes, errors.

Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: telecom on August 28, 2018, 11:02:46 PM
have you actually tried the experiment?
Generally speaking, mv of the reaction is a vector, and if the direction is changed on the opposite, i.e. not against the original force, but with it, the reaction can be made to
double the original force.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 01, 2018, 03:15:29 PM
Please look at the two PDF links.
1) Everything is explained clear enough and the text and the drawings are also clear enough.
2) No, there are no experiments at all. It's only a theoretical research. If somebody in this forum has time and good will, then he/she could carry out the experiment. You can also consider everything as a part of the entertaiment industry. Simply have fun and be happy! 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 08, 2018, 11:27:51 AM
Dear colleagues,
Let me tell you about two more things.
1) Precise mathematical calculations (including intergrals) unambiguously show the correctness of the conception described in the two PDF links  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf and  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf. Baron Munchausen can lift himself into the air by pulling himself up by his own hair for sure! The calculations however take too much space (20 pages) and that's why they are not given here. But anybody, who is interested in, can do the math.
2) There are special computer programs (since 1990s) which entirely and fully imitate real mechanical (as well as electrical, chemical and other) processes. There are numerous clips in YouTube which totally and fully imitate the real mechanical processes which occur in the internal combustion engines (ICE) for example. The clips are animations which show clearly vectors (as time varying directions and magnitudes) of linear and angular velocities and of forces and torques related (a) to the rotating crankshaft, (b) to the reciprocally moving pistons and (c) to the cylinders. AND PLEASE NOTE -- there is an option which allows imitating of the real mechanical processes in ICE with and without friction, that is, friction can vary from zero to any value(magnitude) bigger than zero.
So if there are enthusiasts (enthusiasm is one of the basic requirements of any great deed) in this forum who are well educated in computer sciences, then they could adapt the above mentioned programs to the Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive conception and show all of us in this forum the related adaptations.
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And let me repeat again -- nobody forces you into accepting of the Baron Munchausen's conception for a reactionless drive. Please consider the two PDF links as a part of the entertainment industry. Simply have fun and be happy!
Best regards,
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 15, 2018, 11:22:42 AM
And two more arguments related to Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive which are not related to higher mathematics.
1) Firstly, please look again at Figs. 1,2,2A and 3 in link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf and at the related text in link  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf. Please assume that the inside walls of the straight-line black pipes are quite rough and covered with abrasive paper. The two blue balls slide inside the straight-line black pipes s-segments. Let us assume that the resisting force of friction is 1N. (The weight of an average apple is around 1N.)
Secondly, please look again at Figs. 4,5,5A and 6 in link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf and at the related text in link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf. Please assume that friction inside the zig-zag channels is 100000 times smaller than 1N (which is perfectly possible by using modern technologies), that is, the resisting force of friction is now 0.00001N. Therefore friction can be assumed negligible -- it is much smaller than the weight of a mosquito! And the related experimental error is 0.001%, that is, the experimental error can be also neglected as the acceptable margin of experimental error is 1% at most.
How to explain the Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive in a simpler and more understandable way?
2) Now we are preparing a presentation (text and drawings) of another approach which allows replacing of friction (Figs. 1,2,2A and 3) with another technology unit. The blue ball slides with negligible friction inside the straight-line black pipe and at a certain moment pushes sideways an oblique piston which on its behalf slides in a straight-line channel. This channel (a) is perpendicular to the black straight-line pipe and (b) is firmly attached to the black straight-line pipe. There is a spring of suitable stiffness inside this additional channel. The blue ball slides inside the black straight-line pipe and pushes the oblique piston, which on its behalf presses the spring. After some period of time the piston is totally pushed out of the black straight-line pipe and is locked in its ultimate position; the spring is maximally pressed and the related velocities are the same as in Fig. 3. If friction is assumed negligible, then (a) no heat is generated and (b) the related energy is accumulated in the spring as a potential energy. (The spring is assumed to be ideal and I will not explain now what is an ideal spring and how it correlates with a real spring.)
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It seems to me that many members of this forum (excluding a few clumsy and ignorant agents of the BIG OIL) as if fear the truth.
Nevertheless simply have fun!
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: fritznien on September 15, 2018, 03:26:03 PM
hard to read.TLDRwhat is the point.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on September 22, 2018, 10:36:44 AM
To fritznien.
1) The experimental error caused by friction in a real experiment can be reduced to 0.001% (modern technologies allow this) while the acceptable margin of experimental error is 1-2% at most and 5% as a standard.   
2) Friction can be replaced by oblique pistons which are pushed aside by the moving blue balls. Pistons press high-quality springs that accumulate potential energy and do not practically generate heat.
Note. Yet please read the text which you evaluate as TLRD. 
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on October 06, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
Don't fear the truth! And the truth is that BARON MUNCHAUSEN CAN LIFT HIMSELF INTO THE AIR BY PULLING HIMSELF UP BY HIS OWN HAIR FOR SURE! The law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not correct in some cases! Any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing disturbing and tragic in this fact. Be simply braver and have fun!
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 04, 2018, 11:30:14 AM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: F6FLT on November 04, 2018, 01:15:44 PM
...BARON MUNCHAUSEN CAN LIFT HIMSELF INTO THE AIR BY PULLING HIMSELF UP BY HIS OWN HAIR FOR SURE!
...
Does he use the same method as Peter Pan?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on November 05, 2018, 02:17:31 PM
I do not see any comments. No one here is interested in reactionless drive?
The point here is how one can pull his own hair and lift himself into the air. The hand that pulls, will pull equally in the opposite direction of the weight he want to lift. Such videos, or statements are untrue because it's a good trick, with nothing more to it.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: F6FLT on November 05, 2018, 06:01:15 PM
...The hand that pulls, will pull equally in the opposite direction of the weight he want to lift. Such videos, or statements are untrue because it's a good trick, with nothing more to it.
...

I share your opinion, Vidar.
The configuration reduces to a closed mechanical system and no new physics is assumed. A Lagrangian can therefore describe the system, which excludes any possibility of non-conservation of the momentum.
I consider this thread to be a good joke, even if it is not the April fool's day.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 11, 2018, 12:20:33 PM
To F6FLT and to Low-Q.
Are you really ignorant or you only imitate ignorance because of the money you receive from the BIG OIL and/or from similar organizations? Most likely the second one is true.   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 11, 2018, 12:23:21 PM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: F6FLT on November 11, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
To F6FLT and to Low-Q.
Are you really ignorant or you only imitate ignorance because of the money you receive from the BIG OIL and/or from similar organizations?
Yes I get $50.000 every month from "BIG OIL and/or from similar organizations" to animate social networks. ::)  ;D ;D ;D

Irony aside, after having learned elementary physics, you should also learn the ad hominem fallacy of "Guilt by association" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy) in order to improve your mastery of logic and rethoric and to be less insulting in the future.

Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 12, 2018, 04:25:42 PM
To F6FLT.
Please excuse me if I have insulted you. You are free to have your own opinion and protect it. I do not mind if you consider the above Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive as a joke. Then please have fun and be happy! It's OK! 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 12, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on November 26, 2018, 06:26:55 PM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on November 30, 2018, 12:56:29 PM
To F6FLT and to Low-Q.
Are you really ignorant or you only imitate ignorance because of the money you receive from the BIG OIL and/or from similar organizations? Most likely the second one is true.
This has nothing to do with Big Oil. Oil is Big because over unity doesn't work. Claiming that Big Oil is in the way, is just a conspiracy theory that is constructed by ignorant minds.
Science is all about numbers. If the numbers doesn't add up, you have a problem that can't be solved. Easy as that.
However, in spite of this, even myself have spent lots of time trying to crack the over unity code. Sleepless nights, convinced that I have figured it out, but then the day after I realize I made a mistake in the calculations, or methods that are used to determine how things work.


Working with OU is an extremely hard task to manage fully - just because, in the end of the day, the numbers doesn't add up, EVERY TIME. Frustrating, but true.
I'm not saying that all those experiments and simulations are a waste of time. While walking that steep uphill path, you learn more and more - learning the hard way, by doing errors. You learn what mistakes you did, and then avoid those in later experiments and simulations. Unfortunatly for someone, the broken record plays the same track over and over. Makes the same mistakes over and over.
Just a fool repeats experiments that fail. You must think new every time, even if you don't have any good ideas left - then try the bad ideas untill you come up with something promising.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on November 30, 2018, 01:02:57 PM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
I have noe clue about these simulators, but what I assume, is that those computer models use calculus to determine the outcome.
As long that calculator correctly states that 1+1=2, I cannot guarantee that you some day will be able to simulate a mechanical system that delivers over unity.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 01, 2018, 11:45:17 AM
To Low-Q
Hi Vidar,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
1) Well, there are three possibilities -- the described above Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive either (a) breaks only the law of conservation of linear momentum or (b) breaks only the law of conservation of mechanical energy or (c) breaks simultaneously both the law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy.
2) The violation of the law of conservation of linear momentum automatically leads to a comparatively simple mechanical reactionless drive machine, which (PLEASE NOTE!) has nothing to do with literally lifting yourself into the air by pulling your own hair -- only the ultimate effect would be the same 
2) You wrote that you have spent lots of time trying to crack the over unity code. In such a case let us work together and not compete. Let us find together an expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems and processes. (You and I are not experts in this field for sure.) 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on December 02, 2018, 12:41:45 AM
Well, George, I'm not actually competing. I just find such claims a little odd - the logic doesn't add quite up. By reactionless, I understand a force that does not need a reference. Say that you help a driver with his car by pushing it out of from a pile of snow. By "magic" you do not spend a calorie, but the car is still pushed away from the pile.
Then you realize that the car was hooked up on a tractor. The mistake was that you didn't noticed the tractor.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 12, 2018, 12:45:44 PM
To Low-Q.
Hi Vidar.
Thanks a lot for your reply. And here is my answer.
1) Actually I did not understand what exactly are you talking about in your last message. May be this is due to my insufficient qualification. But let us try another simple approach.
2) Assume that the black component is either fixed to the ground or its mass is much bigger than the mass of the blue component. Then after covering a certain number of zigzags the blue component will stop WITHOUT HEAT GENERATION as friction is zero (or small enough for the related experimental error to be neglected). This corresponds to the second experiment.
3) Let us now replace the black component zigzag sector with a straight-line sector which is rough enough and long enough. Then after covering a certain suitable length/part of the straight-line rough sector the blue component will also stop but this time WITH HEAT GENERATION. This corresponds to the first experiment.
4) If in items 2 and 3 the black component is either not fixed to the ground or its mass is not much bigger but comparable with the mass of the blue component, then in both cases after covering a certain number of zigzags (experiment 2) and after covering a certain length of the rough straight-line sector (experiment 1) the blue and black components will form together one united whole which will move with one and same final velocity. But in one case (corresponding to experiment 2) THERE IS NO HEAT GENERATION and in the other case (corresponding to experiment 1) THERE IS HEAT GENERATION. This enevitably leads to the conclusion that may be both the law of conseravation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not correct simultaneously to some extent. And there is now only one step to designing and manufacturing a reactionless derive. (Let us call it for fun a "Baron Munchausen reactionless drive".)
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It's simple, isn't it?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George     
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 12, 2018, 12:58:56 PM

Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 18, 2018, 09:19:13 AM
And here is one even more understandable variation of the considerations related to the links  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf and https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf.
1) Let us assume that the mass of the black component is m and the mass of the blue component is m too. The initial velocity of the blue component is Vo and its linear momentum is mVo respectively.
2) Let us consider only the zigzag experiment 2.
3) Firstly, let us consider what would happen if the zigzag channels are rough and there is friction. And secondly, let us consider what will happen if the zigzag channels are smooth and there is no friction.
4) The question is how many zigzags have to be covered by the blue component for both the black component and the blue component to form one united whole whose mass is 2m and whose velocity is Vo/2, and whose linear momentum is exactly (2m)(Vo/2).
5) The answer is surprisingly simple -- simple formulas and calculations have to be used only.
5A) For the first case -- rough zigzag channels. The blue component has to cover 5 zigzags for both the black component and the blue component to form one united whole whose mass is 2m and whose velocity is Vo/2, and whose linear momentum is (2m)(Vo/2) respectively. In this first case HEAT IS GENERATED.
5B) For the second case -- smooth zigzag channels. The same final results with the only difference that (1) the blue component has to cover 11 zigzags and (2) HEAT IS NOT GENERATED.
6) We chose a sine wave shape of the zigzag channels. But one can use any other zigzag-shaped curve.
7) For the calculations we used the following initial data.
7A) Force of friction = 1N (initial value); force of friction gradually decreases because it depends on the normal force (normal to the sine wave curve) which also decreases while the blue component moves in relation to the black component.   
7B) Coefficient of sliding friction = 0.5 = const.; it does not change while the blue component moves in relation to the black component.
7C) Sine wave maximum amplitude = 0.2 m.
7D) Vo = 1 m/s.
7E) m = 1 kg.
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How to explain the situation in a simpler manner?
IT IS EVIDENT that there is only one step from the above considerations to the designing and manufacturing of a comparatively simple  ENTIRELY mechanical reactionless drive machine.
Looking forward to the answers of all sceptics :) (who we actually consider as friends, associates and colleagues).
Regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 18, 2018, 09:42:25 AM
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 26, 2018, 04:25:41 PM
1) Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
2) Any member of this forum, who is a top expert in theoretical and applied mechanics, and who is able to check the correctness of our calculations related to 5/11 zigzag experiments?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on December 29, 2018, 03:57:51 PM
1) Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
2) Any member of this forum, who is a top expert in theoretical and applied mechanics, and who is able to check the correctness of our calculations related to 5/11 zigzag experiments?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 02, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Best wishes to all members of this forum!
And I would like to ask again for support, partnership and collaboration:
1) Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
2) Any member of this forum, who is a top expert in theoretical and applied mechanics, and who is able to check the correctness of our calculations related to 5/11 zigzag experiments?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on January 02, 2019, 12:43:07 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Best wishes to all members of this forum!
And I would like to ask again for support, partnership and collaboration:
1) Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?
2) Any member of this forum, who is a top expert in theoretical and applied mechanics, and who is able to check the correctness of our calculations related to 5/11 zigzag experiments?
Happy new year George!
I think your question doesn't get any response, but I have answered your question earlier - even if it wasn't exactly what you wanted.
If you want to simulate a mechanical setup, the professional way, any legit simulators out there does not allow over unity - simply because they take all physical and mathematical aspects into consideration that cannot allow a false answer to a calculation. It will, if all details about your zigzag-idea is put into the model, calculate zero output.


I have analyzed your zigzag-idea (Based on what I can uderstand frot it), but I cannot find anything in it which creates energy from nothing, or anything special, or surprizingly odd.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 06, 2019, 12:50:00 PM
Happy New Year, Vidar!
Thanks a lot for your reply. I would not agree with your opinion, but it's ok. It is normal different people to have different opinions.
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To all other colleagues and friends in this forum, who do not share Vidar's opinion.
Please consider carefully the 10 items below that can be found by Google.
1) Physics engine -- Wikipedia.
2) Physics abstraction layer (PAL).
3) Dynamechs.
4) RigidChips.
5) Dynamical simulation -- Wikipedia.
6) Open dynamics engine.
7) Japanese rigid-body simulator.
8) Rigid-body simulator.
9) Rigid-body Dynamic Simulators.
10) And many more.
Google shows that there are at least 15 high-quality simulators of physical reality which ARE BASED ON THE THREE NEWTON'S LAWS. And this means that the experimental error is reduced practically to zero.
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on January 06, 2019, 11:50:18 PM
 @George1,
 
Hi,
I'm an old timer. Been a very long time since my last post...
Nicely written paper! Very cleanly explained. Congratulations! However, I've stop reading at the very top of page 8: "The second result is that the blue T-shaped component decelerates..."
Why is it do you think it would decelerate? Would it? Why would it? I'm asking because I firmly believe it won't. In the absence of any friction (ideal case), it's the balls that accelerates instead. It will accelerate without any problem in the light of the assumption made at page 3, in the brackets: "For easier considerations further in the text you could assume that the masses of the two symmetrical couples blue rods - blue balls are equal to zero and can be neglected". Emphasis is on "are equal to zero", hence they do not require energy, nor momentum, to accelerate instantaneously.  The speed of T-shaped component will, therefore, remain constant. Having reached this point, I'm sorry to say that, imho, the rest of the paper does fall short on physics?


Waiting for your reply,

Best regards!
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 07, 2019, 01:01:35 PM
But if the speed of the T-shaped component remains constant, then this will lead to a severe violation of the two basic laws. No matter how many are the zigzags the T-shaped component's speed will be always constant and the T-shaped component will never stop. Did I understand you correctly?
(In my poor opinion the best solution is the use of a high-quality rigid-body simulator of the kind that is used in NASA, Boeing, Formula 1 etc.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards!
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: tinu on January 07, 2019, 02:24:37 PM
Yes, that is correct. In the absence of friction and zero ball masses, the T-shaped component's speed will be always constant, regardless of zigzags. There is no violations of any laws that I am aware of.
If you'll want to consider non-zero ball masses but also the absence of friction, the speed of T-shaped component will vary as per momentum and energy conservation laws, depending on the zigzags exact geometrical configuration but, in the end, when traveling straight again, the speed will revert back to the exact initial speed, regardless of zigzags. It's just slightly more complicated to solve but in essence I think you'll find out a solution close to a kind of jerky motion and nothing else of particular relevance.
That's how I see it.I'm sorry for the bad news.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on January 07, 2019, 07:01:12 PM
@tinu
That is pretty much what I figured out too.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 08, 2019, 09:30:59 AM
To Low-Q/Vidar and tinu.
Thanks a lot for your replies. I would not agree with your arguements because of several reasons. It will take too much time and space however to explain these reasons in detail. (Part of these reasons were explained in some of my previous posts.)  Anyway you both are free to have your own opinions and protect them. It's OK. My intuition tells me however that very soon you both will change your minds and you both will join our team. If so, you are welcome.
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To all other colleagues and friends in this forum, who do not share present Vidar's and tinu's opinions.
Please consider carefully the 10 items below that can be found by Google.
1) Physics engine -- Wikipedia.
2) Physics abstraction layer (PAL).
3) Dynamechs.
4) RigidChips.
5) Dynamical simulation -- Wikipedia.
6) Open dynamics engine.
7) Japanese rigid-body simulator.
8) Rigid-body simulator.
9) Rigid-body Dynamic Simulators.
10) And many more.
Google shows that there are at least 15 high-quality simulators of physical reality which ARE BASED ON THE THREE NEWTON'S LAWS. And this means that the experimental error is reduced practically to zero.
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 11, 2019, 01:14:29 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum, who do not share present Vidar's and tinu's opinions.
Please consider carefully the links below.
1) https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_simulation_software
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PfAtth53bk
4) https://www.mathworks.com/products/simmechanics.html
5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_engine
6) And many more.
Google shows that there are at least 20 high-quality simulators of physical reality which ARE BASED ON THE THREE NEWTON'S LAWS. And this means that the experimental error is reduced practically to zero.
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 16, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum, who do not share present Vidar's and tinu's opinions.
Please consider carefully the links below.
1) https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_simulation_software
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PfAtth53bk
4) https://www.mathworks.com/products/simmechanics.html
5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_engine
6) And many more.
Google shows that there are at least 20 high-quality simulators of physical reality which ARE BASED ON THE THREE NEWTON'S LAWS. And this means that the experimental error is reduced practically to zero.
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 20, 2019, 10:40:47 AM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 23, 2019, 02:49:38 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on January 28, 2019, 10:14:17 AM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 01, 2019, 09:59:29 AM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 02, 2019, 01:09:32 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 04, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 10, 2019, 03:14:39 PM
Any comments, opinions, recommendations, objections? Any positive and constructive criticism is welcome.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 10, 2019, 03:15:15 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 12, 2019, 03:18:00 PM
To all colleagues and friends in this forum.
Please consider the link below, which shows computer simulations of a great variety of real physical processes.
https://www.myphysicslab.com/index-en.html
Please help us to make a computer simulation of the mechanical systems described in the two links below.
1) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
2) https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.
Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.
The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.
(Please look at the beginning of this forum discussion.)
LET'S DO THE THINGS TOGETHER!
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 19, 2019, 10:29:30 AM
Any comments, opinions, recommendations, related to our reactionless drive conception?
Looking forward to your answers.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 20, 2019, 10:18:22 AM
Instead of repeating yourself and annoying everyone with the same messages over and over, you can build this thing, and see how it works ;)


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 21, 2019, 10:15:49 AM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
1) Yes, you are right. As if I overdo the things a little. I am sorry for this.
2) Now we are working over a real experiment as well as over a computer simulation. But these two problems are not easy to be solved. Some help from any member of this forum would be always welcome.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,     
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 21, 2019, 11:48:30 AM

Starting with specific design on the drawing board is a good way to start. Drawings with specific details, such as size of parts, where to put them (how to assamble), what the parts are for, and what purpose they have. Choise of materials for each part.
3D drawings is easier to understand. Not many can understand 2D drawings and put those together in an imaginary 3D model, then visualize how it works.
You have some work to do, I suppose🙂


Vidar

To Low-Q.
---------------------
Hi Vidar,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
1) Yes, you are right. As if I overdo the things a little. I am sorry for this.
2) Now we are working over a real experiment as well as over a computer simulation. But these two problems are not easy to be solved. Some help from any member of this forum would be always welcome.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,     
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 21, 2019, 03:38:53 PM
A quote from Low-Q: "Starting with specific design on the drawing board is a good way to start. Drawings with specific details, such as size of parts, where to put them (how to assamble), what the parts are for, and what purpose they have. Choise of materials for each part.
3D drawings is easier to understand. Not many can understand 2D drawings and put those together in an imaginary 3D model, then visualize how it works.
You have some work to do, I suppose🙂"
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To Low-Q.
-----------------
Hi Vidar.
Thanks a lot for your reply and for your moral support. We highly appreciate this. And yes, you are right -- we have some work to do, that's true.
And one question, if you please. I can't understand these three sentences: "3D drawings is easier to understand. Not many can understand 2D drawings and put those together in an imaginary 3D model, then visualize how it works." Would you be so polite to give us some more detailed explanations?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 22, 2019, 10:42:45 AM
To Low-Q.
-----------------
Hi Vidar.
Why 3D is easier to understand than 2D? Isn't it just on the contrary?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 22, 2019, 06:47:44 PM
What I meant was draw the model in 3D, such as you do in Fusion 360 or Sketchup.


If you need help with design or wether it works or not, it is important to be VERY specific. Detailed drawings in 3D is very helpful.
Because ball-pen lines, some ripples/waves, a square here and there, maybe a circle somewhere on a piece of paper, does not make sense for many. Even if the text/explanations are there, it is not always easy to follow the explanation of the drawings.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 23, 2019, 12:45:23 PM
Hi Vidar,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
Your last text is very interesting. I would need some time to formulate exactly a few questions. And what are Fusion 360 and Sketchup?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 23, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
Fusion 360 and Sketchup is computer software where you can modelling objects, put them together so you can sort of simulate a real model, turn it around on the computer screen so you can look at the model from any thinkable positions.
Search youtube for Fusion 360 modelling or Sketchup modelling. Then you see what purpose these softwares has🙂
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 23, 2019, 01:14:39 PM
Well, aside from my reply above, I have given your drawing an eyeball, and wonder about one thing.
The waveform, I assume is a hollow track, or two tracks close to each other, keeping a small rod or something on track as you move the piston back and forth.
The lines that goes in between the two vertical parallell lines, what are they supposed to do, except from bouncing up and down as you move the piston sideways?
It is somewat hard to keep track on a handwritten photographed description, in multiple pages in, a foreign language...
Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 25, 2019, 02:21:23 PM
To Low-Q/Vidar.
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Hi Vidar.
Thanks a lot for your reply.
Would you be so polite to formulate again your question(s)? I did not understand them entirely.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 25, 2019, 02:24:02 PM
To Low-Q/Vidar
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And thanks a lot for the information related to Fusion 360 and Sketchup.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 26, 2019, 09:09:48 AM
To Low-Q/Vidar
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It's not an easy job for an unexperienced man to work with Fusion 360 and with Sketchup. It will take some time to study and learn the basic skills.
 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on February 27, 2019, 11:43:34 AM
To Low-Q/Vidar.
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There is some progress with these programs. But it will take time.
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on February 27, 2019, 07:43:46 PM
Sounds great Geroge1.
These compotersimulations in 3D are powerful tools.
They do not only offer a full 3 dimension model, but you can make parts, assemble them on the computer. In this way you can easily see where you need adjustments or alternative fittings. Last, but not least, your model can be exported to a 3D printable version, and one day hold your computermodel in your hands. I do this all the time. Making parts on my 3D printer that I have made in SketchUp Make ( the free version of scetchup).


It is a steep learning curve at the beginning. I have recently got into Fusion 360, but after many years with SketchUp, I find it hard to "reset" my brain to handle Fusion 360 well.
I'll probably stick to SketchUp for now.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 01, 2019, 12:15:15 PM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar.
Thank you for your reply.
1) Yes, SketchUp really seems to be more convenient. It is web-based and does not need downloading (as Fusion 360 does) which is, let's say, one of its primary advantages.
2) But as if neither SketchUp nor Fusion 360 have any options related to a possible details' motion. Or may be there are such options but being a non-expert I did not notice them? Please throw some light on this section of SketchUp and Fusion 360, if possible.
3) As I can see you are a top-expert in the field. So would you be so polite to think over the possibility to join our team and become our partner?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George     
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on March 01, 2019, 03:28:06 PM

Hi George1,


I have to think about the partnership. What does it involve? Finance, development, support, or what?
I cannot throw money after people. I can for sure help if you need some sketches, but do not expect me to be 100% dedicated to the partnership since I do have lots of other things to do - such as kids, other hobbies, a wife, a job etc.
I will not spend a second on contributions to developments of devices that obviously cannot work, such as closed looped gravity powered machines of all kinds, or electrical closed looped devices that is suposed to deliver excess energy.


I am more into magnetism, because that is a relatively wide field when you think about it. It is not directly compareable to gravity, even though the magnetic fields at any point is conservative, but it is the magnetic field gradient that looks interesting. What can we do with it? How can we displace magnetic materials, or other magnets, within a magnetic field gradient without effort? etc. This is the issues I work on right now (Actually for years without sucsess this far).


Speaking of SketchUp: It is not possible to animate functions of a model in SketchUp. To do this you need an expert level in VERY expensive and powerful computer tools.
What I do is designing a model in SketchUp, then 3D-print it as a model with parts that I put together, and test in real life. Computersimulations cannot provide proof. Most important, computersimulations use generic calculus to determine the outcome. That means you will never be able to simulate overunity on a computer.


Vidar

To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar.
Thank you for your reply.
1) Yes, SketchUp really seems to be more convenient. It is web-based and does not need downloading (as Fusion 360 does) which is, let's say, one of its primary advantages.
2) But as if neither SketchUp nor Fusion 360 have any options related to a possible details' motion. Or may be there are such options but being a non-expert I did not notice them? Please throw some light on this section of SketchUp and Fusion 360, if possible.
3) As I can see you are a top-expert in the field. So would you be so polite to think over the possibility to join our team and become our partner?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 10, 2019, 12:14:45 PM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar.
Thank you for your reply.
My colleagues and I have been extremely busy for the last 7 days and because of this I could not answer your last letter.
About the partnership. Actually I have not an exact formula for this partnership. May be support and development? Or something else? Please suggest, if you like, some formula for partnership and collaboration of mutual benefit.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on March 10, 2019, 02:36:38 PM
Hi George,


I am willing to discuss projects with you. Just tell me how you prefer the communication. Open source, such as this forum, or in full secret.
Email, facebook, messenger, or what?


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 12, 2019, 09:38:57 AM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar
Thank you for your reply.
Well, may be some part of our correspondence could be open source and some part could be secret. You have the email address of our group. It is written in my first post. Please write to our email address, if you like, and if you have some secret projects, which you don't want to reveale to public.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George   
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: Low-Q on March 12, 2019, 01:49:29 PM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar
Thank you for your reply.
Well, may be some part of our correspondence could be open source and some part could be secret. You have the email address of our group. It is written in my first post. Please write to our email address, if you like, and if you have some secret projects, which you don't want to reveale to public.
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George   
OK. Thanks. I sent you an email from my gmail account just now.


Vidar
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 15, 2019, 03:09:14 PM
To Low-Q.
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Hi Vidar.
Thank you for your reply. I will enter our team's email address after a while.
Best regards,
George 
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: George1 on March 16, 2019, 11:39:18 AM
Any comments, advices, recommendations, objections?
Title: Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
Post by: hdeasy on March 19, 2019, 04:04:24 PM
Why don't you pay an engineer to make up your system and test it? That's what I have done for 6 or 7 prototypes at this stage using centrifugal force to propel reaction-lessly. Some of the prototypes shattered due to vibrations but they all gave the predicted forces. I won't show them as trying to develop in a startup company. I estimate yours would cost about 500 Euros with the firm I work with.