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Author Topic: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment  (Read 7719 times)

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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2020, 10:24:49 PM »
Yes, exactly, small magnet is being repelled, but it has not only vertical,
but a horizontal vector as well, IMHO.

Yes, at some distance there certainly is some horizontal vector of that. But i tried to measure that horizontal component every way i could, i couldn't find any measurable force. One way is to put some surface on the small magnet, as it is repelled, and no longer stays on the surface below, to be able to measure that horizontal component. There is certainly some horizontal force in that case, but it may not be strong enough, so that the spring scales can measure.


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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2020, 12:42:01 AM »
Telecom, good if you would replicate, very important. Fish scales, spring scales, but maybe even the best is weight over a pulley. Somewhat difficult to make though, i think i did it in the simplest way.


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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2020, 11:39:15 PM »
I will order digital scale on Amazon.
Like those:
https://www.amazon.ca/AMPPHY-Electronic-Portable-Hanging-Luggage

Meanwhile was playing with different angles of the large magnet.
I've noticed that small magnet produces quite a lot of vertical force
on the way out.
It can be added to the output through some kind of a mechanical leverage,
I think.

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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2020, 11:39:15 PM »
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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #93 on: January 22, 2020, 11:53:47 PM »
I have an idea to connect two of these setups back to back, in such a way,
that while one attracts from the left, another from the right.
If the left one has more power, we should see it pulling more.
What do you think?

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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #94 on: January 23, 2020, 12:15:33 AM »
I have an idea to connect two of these setups back to back, in such a way,
that while one attracts from the left, another from the right.
If the left one has more power, we should see it pulling more.
What do you think?

Force? See my graph above. The all matter is, force appears to be less at the left side, and more at the right side. Yet at the left side this force goes to much longer distance than at the right side, and as the result the energy at the left side is greater than at the right side. The energy is the area under the curve, it is force multiplied by distance, or sum of these for several small distances.

There, a single thing that really may show the most, is how far the force goes at the left side, and at the right side.


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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #95 on: January 23, 2020, 12:24:20 AM »
Force? See my graph above. The all matter is, force appears to be less at the left side, and more at the right side. Yet at the left side this force goes to much longer distance than at the right side, and as the result the energy at the left side is greater than at the right side. The energy is the area under the curve, it is force multiplied by distance, or sum of these for several small distances.

There, a single thing that really may show the most, is how far the force goes at the left side, and at the right side.
Exactly,
so initially right side will win, and then the left side, if to follow your drawing,
IMHO.
But I don't insist on this setup.

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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #96 on: January 23, 2020, 12:42:49 AM »
Exactly,
so initially right side will win, and then the left side, if to follow your drawing,

Yes. It is thought so that, it accelerates at the left side, so much that it goes through the right side, the way that the speed is still increased when it leaves the field. What my other experiment also seems to show, only there it's the opposite, the straight magnet is standing, and the tilted magnets move.


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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #97 on: January 23, 2020, 11:42:02 PM »
I ordered scales from the Ali Express.
Tried Amazon, but no matter what I did, they wanted me to buy
staff for $35 before shipping, so I had to cancel.
Instead, paid for a faster delivery from Ali.

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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #98 on: January 24, 2020, 05:19:32 AM »
I ordered scales from the Ali Express.

So it's these scales from ebay as i understand, $6.26  https://www.ebay.com/p/9024597154?iid=323934323417&rt=nc . The precision supposed to be 5 g, that is approximately 0.05 N. If so, it's precise enough for the purpose, what remains to see is how precise it really is in practice.


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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #99 on: January 24, 2020, 07:05:48 AM »
So it's these scales from ebay as i understand, $6.26  https://www.ebay.com/p/9024597154?iid=323934323417&rt=nc . The precision supposed to be 5 g, that is approximately 0.05 N. If so, it's precise enough for the purpose, what remains to see is how precise it really is in practice.
Probably mechanical accumulator of energy, such as flywheel,
will be needed to utilize the difference in energy on two sides.
Or another type of the accumulator, such as spring.

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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #100 on: January 25, 2020, 07:26:58 PM »
It's a kind of tricky to put the big magnet under an angle there, so that also the angle can be adjusted. Considering using cardboard. On the figure below, the height is adjusted by layers of cardboard. I use mounting tape to attach everything, that makes it somehow adjustable, though not that easy either. In my experiment, i used matchboxes and cardboard from matchboxes, in a rather improvised way. There may be easier ways, like a rectangular magnet may be directly glued to box, another question is how to change its angle then, just remove the glue and glue again? I just showed a kind of way how i did it, i don't say that it's necessarily the best.


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Re: Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment
« Reply #100 on: January 25, 2020, 07:26:58 PM »
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