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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 159532 times)

Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #900 on: September 13, 2021, 12:38:16 PM »
To Jerry Volland (and to the other paid agents of the official science mafia).
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It is evident for all of us here in this forum that you use a clumsy and an ineffective manipulation technique, which is as follows.
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A) As a first part of your primitive manipulation trick you imitate unseccessfully a pathological lack of understanding of THE FIRST SIMPLE OBVIOUS FACT, that whatever the values of V2 and V3, either (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is invalid or (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is invalid or (c) both the law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are invalid simultaneously.   
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B) As a second part of your primitive manipulation trick you imitate unseccessfully a pathological lack of understanding of THE SECOND SIMPLE OBVIOUS FACT, that if V1 = 1m/s, then (always) V2 > 0 and V3 > 0.
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C) In one word, it is evident for all of us here in this forum, that your primitive manipulations tricks do not work anymore. Try some other manipulation method/approach. Show some more creativeness. Because otherwise you resemble an amateur clown.
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D) But if you do not really understand the essence of the above mentioned TWO SIMPLE OBVIOUS FACTS, and if you do really reject the validity of the above mentioned TWO SIMPLE OBVIOUS FACTS, then you really need to see your doctor as you obviously suffer from some kind of a severe mental disorder. You need a good psychiatrist. You need to undergo an intensive course of medical treatment in a hospital for mental diseases.
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I am asking (YOU PERSONALLY!) my two simple questions for the 37th time.
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1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
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2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;   
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
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3) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is valid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is invalid.
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4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is invalid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is valid.
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5) It is evident that both (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are invalid simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case, which is described in the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
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So I am asking (YOU PERSONALLY!) again my two simple questions for the 37th time.
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QUESTION 1: V2 = ? (How many meters per second is V2 equal to?)
QUESTION 2: V3 = ? (How many meters per second is V3 equal to?)
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Looking forward to your two (PERSONAL!) answers for the 37th time.

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Offline Jerry Volland

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #901 on: September 13, 2021, 05:00:56 PM »
Science mafia?  Sorry, I don't affiliate.


Now quit beating around the bush and ANSWER my two simple questions:


1. What is the torque radius?
2.  Does your shock absorber produce acceleration?
(A yes or no on that one is good enough).

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #902 on: September 14, 2021, 02:35:13 PM »
To Jerry Volland (and to the other paid agents of the official science mafia).
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All honest members of this forum can clearly see that your clumsy and primitive manipulation tricks will not save your a**! You will be beaten by your masters for sure, because you regularly fail to manipulate successfully the audience! You have to run quickly! :)
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I am asking (YOU PERSONALLY!) my simple (AND ALREADY ONLY ONE SINGLE!) question for the 38th time.
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1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;   
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
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3) It is evident that (always) V2 > 0 m/s and V3 > 0 m/s.
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4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is valid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is invalid.
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5) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is invalid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is valid.
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6) It is evident that if (a) V2 is not equal to 0.6 m/s, and if (b) V2 is not equal to 0.8 m/s, and if (c) V3 is not equal to 0.1 m/s, and if (d) V3 is not equal to 0.3 m/s, then both (e) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (f) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are invalid simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case, which is described in the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
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So I am asking (YOU PERSONALLY!) again my simple (AND ALREADY ONLY ONE SINGLE!) question for the 38th time.
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QUESTION: Do you have any objections against any of the above items 1-6 and if yes, then why?
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Looking forward to your  (PERSONAL!) answer for the 38th time.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #902 on: September 14, 2021, 02:35:13 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #903 on: September 14, 2021, 06:34:14 PM »
George 1:


If someone gave you the answer you'd claim they didn't, just to keep YOUR NAME on the forum's front page.  And all you have is Click Bait at best, deliberate fraud possibly.  Still, that's no excuse for on-going defamatory statements.  Nothing more despicable than a paid agent of suppression.

I'll see if my lawyer can find out what your name is.

JV

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #904 on: September 14, 2021, 08:33:06 PM »
George 1:


If someone gave you the answer you'd claim they didn't, just to keep YOUR NAME on the forum's front page.  And all you have is Click Bait at best, deliberate fraud possibly.  Still, that's no excuse for on-going defamatory statements.  Nothing more despicable than a paid agent of suppression.

I'll see if my lawyer can find out what your name is.

JV


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  Peter Axe !?


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAydFMDKj2Y  6:24+  11 inventions,so enough ideas for new topics  ::)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY 7:12+

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #904 on: September 14, 2021, 08:33:06 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #905 on: September 15, 2021, 02:29:14 PM »
To Jerry Volland (and to the other paid agents of the official science mafia).
========================
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Asking our simple question for the 39th time.
--------------------------------------------
1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;   
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
3) It is evident that (always) V2 > 0 m/s and V3 > 0 m/s.
--------------------------------------------
4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is valid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is invalid.
--------------------------------------------
5) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is invalid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is valid.
--------------------------------------------
6) It is evident that if (a) V2 is not equal to 0.6 m/s, and if (b) V2 is not equal to 0.8 m/s, and if (c) V3 is not equal to 0.1 m/s, and if (d) V3 is not equal to 0.3 m/s, then both (e) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (f) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are invalid simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case, which is described in the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
--------------------------------------------
Asking again our simple question for the 39th time.
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QUESTION: Do you have any objections against any of the above items 3-6? Yes or no? (And if yes, then specify exactly which item you do not agree with and why.)
--------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your answer for the 39th time.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #906 on: September 15, 2021, 03:46:39 PM »
Frame dragging is the weakest force in the universe.
The so-called gravitomagnetic curl.
10.exp.23 times weaker than gravity.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #907 on: September 15, 2021, 06:08:11 PM »
George1
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1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY

I like the proof in this video much better because 1) it's demonstrable as seen in the video and 2) it's so obvious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDf4ooPdo
Vertitasium, Anti-Gravity Wheel?.

Here we can apply any physics or equations we want but that does not change the fact that a large spinning mass on the end of a long shaft produces a completely non-intuitive phenomena.

Most don't understand what there seeing but the "spinning mass" has transferred all of it's "weight" to the fulcrum or point of rotation on the other end of the lever as shown below. However in order for the gyroscope/mass to transfer all it's weight to the fulcrum it must first apply an angular force on the lever following the known laws of levers. Which begs the question, the spinning mass obviously generated a force which produced the angular force on the lever but what was the spinning mass acting on to generate said force?.

As it turns out there is nothing the spinning mass can act on other than itself to produce the angular force on the lever ... Oh dear.

That's strange isn't it?, science is explicit that nothing can "act on itself" ergo act on nothing yet that is exactly what the spinning mass on the end of the lever did. So while most were mesmerized by the spinning mass they forgot to consider the lever it was attached to. I mean we all understand levers and the laws relating to them but somehow everyone got distracted in this case.

In my opinion this is a classic case of not being able to see what's right in front of us not unlike the concept of free energy. I mean all we have to do is ask a few simple questions...
1) Is this a lever with a mass on the end furthest from the fulcrum... yes
2) Does the lever require a force to lift or hold the lever on the end furthest from the fulcrum... yes.
3) Where does the force come from but more important what does the mass act on to produce said force?... apparently the spinning mass acts on itself.

When I first saw this experiment I thought it was very strange that so many people seemed to have completely missed the whole point. There is a large spinning mass on the end of a lever and somehow it produced a force "within itself" because there is nothing else it can act on... that is the point.

Regards
AC







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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #908 on: September 15, 2021, 07:28:25 PM »
Gravitomagnetic curl = 10.exp.-23g
Einstein thought it was .exp.-28.
That resulted in a belief in the need for
a cosmological constant.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #909 on: September 16, 2021, 02:52:40 PM »
To Jerry Volland and to onepower.
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1) First of all I would like to apologize for being as if a little more rude than necessary. I am sorry, please excuse me. 
2) Secondly, your last posts seem to be very interesting. Need some time to consider them carefully.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #910 on: September 16, 2021, 02:55:19 PM »
Asking our simple question for the 40th time.
--------------------------------------------
1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;   
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
3) It is evident that (always) V2 > 0 m/s and V3 > 0 m/s.
--------------------------------------------
4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is valid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is invalid.
--------------------------------------------
5) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is invalid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is valid.
--------------------------------------------
6) It is evident that if (a) V2 is not equal to 0.6 m/s, and if (b) V2 is not equal to 0.8 m/s, and if (c) V3 is not equal to 0.1 m/s, and if (d) V3 is not equal to 0.3 m/s, then both (e) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (f) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are invalid simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case, which is described in the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
--------------------------------------------
Asking again our simple question for the 40th time.
--------------------------------------------
QUESTION: Do you have any objections against any of the above items 3-6? Yes or no? (And if yes, then specify exactly which item you do not agree with and why.)
--------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your answer for the 40th time.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #910 on: September 16, 2021, 02:55:19 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #911 on: September 17, 2021, 12:28:45 PM »
Asking our simple question for the 41st time.
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1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;   
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
3) It is evident that (always) V2 > 0 m/s and V3 > 0 m/s.
--------------------------------------------
4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is valid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is invalid.
--------------------------------------------
5) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is invalid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is valid.
--------------------------------------------
6) It is evident that if (a) V2 is not equal to 0.6 m/s, and if (b) V2 is not equal to 0.8 m/s, and if (c) V3 is not equal to 0.1 m/s, and if (d) V3 is not equal to 0.3 m/s, then both (e) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (f) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are invalid simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case, which is described in the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
--------------------------------------------
Asking again our simple question for the 41st time.
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QUESTION: Do you have any objections against any of the above items 3-6? Yes or no? (And if yes, then specify exactly which item you do not agree with and why.)
--------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your answer for the 41st time.
========================
P.S. It is interesting to note a simple interesting experimental fact, which is as follows.
A) A certain number and a certain shape of the zigzags lead to the validity of the above written item 4.
B) Another combination of number and shapes of the zigzags leads to the validity of the above written item 5.
C) And a third combination (and more precisely, a group of combinations) of number and shapes of the zigzags leads to the validity of the above written item 6. 
« Last Edit: September 17, 2021, 03:57:24 PM by George1 »

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #912 on: September 21, 2021, 11:09:18 AM »
To Jerry Volland and to onepower.
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1) Your last posts are really extremely interesting. Need some more time to consider them carefully and thoroughly, and in depth.
2) As far as I can see there are no fundamental zigzag-principle-related objections on your part. This is good. I would suggest to work together.
3) And a few questions, which are not related to the technology topics however. :) Do you have some idea how to contact reliably some world famous high-tech laboratory? How to hire experts and/or equipment, that belong(s) to such a laboratory? How to gain a reliable access to such a laboratory? (Because we (our team) wrote already several times to NASA as well as to each of the 17 most famous laboratories in the world (these 17 laboratories can be found in the link https://www.rankred.com/best-science-and-technology-research-labs/ ), but we still have no answer. Obviously these 17 world famous laboratories are heavy bureaucratic structures, whose officers (of any rank) make even the most trivial decision with a great difficulty.)
Looking forward to your answer.
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P.S. Yes, "a large spinning mass on the end of a long shaft produces a completely non-intuitive phenomena." Well said! Absolutely true! But how this happens? A really mysterious fact, don't you think so?
   

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #913 on: September 21, 2021, 11:13:22 AM »
To those sceptics, who are still not convinced in the validity of the zigzag principle. (Scepticism is extremely useful, but in a moderate dose. :))
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Asking our simple question for the 42nd time.
--------------------------------------------
1) Consider carefully and thoroughly (and many times!) the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
--------------------------------------------
2) Assume that:
a) Ma = 1 kg;
b) Mb = 4 kg; the value of Mb can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
c) V1 = 1m/s = const;
d) Ffr. = force of friction inside the zigzag channels = 0.0000001 N; the latter can be further decreased as many times as you want;   
e) N = number of zigzags = 10; the value of N can be either increased or decreased as many times as you want;
f) Shapes of the zigzags = sinusoids; the latter can be replaced by any other curve patterns.
--------------------------------------------
3) It is evident that (always) V2 > 0 m/s and V3 > 0 m/s.
--------------------------------------------
4) It is evident that if V2 = 0.6 m/s and if V3 = 0.1 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is valid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is invalid.
--------------------------------------------
5) It is evident that if V2 = 0.8 m/s and if V3 = 0.3 m/s, then (a) the law of conservation of linear momentum is invalid and (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is valid.
--------------------------------------------
6) It is evident that if (a) V2 is not equal to 0.6 m/s, and if (b) V2 is not equal to 0.8 m/s, and if (c) V3 is not equal to 0.1 m/s, and if (d) V3 is not equal to 0.3 m/s, then both (e) the law of conservation of linear momentum and (f) the law of conservation of mechanical energy are invalid simultaneously in this special particular zigzag case, which is described in the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY  .
--------------------------------------------
Asking again our simple question for the 42nd time.
--------------------------------------------
QUESTION: Do you have any objections against any of the above items 3-6? Yes or no? (And if yes, then specify exactly which item you do not agree with and why.)
--------------------------------------------
Looking forward to your answer for the 42nd time.
========================
P.S. It is interesting to note a simple interesting experimental fact, which is as follows.
A) A certain number and a certain shape of the zigzags lead to the validity of the above written item 4.
B) Another combination of number and shapes of the zigzags leads to the validity of the above written item 5.
C) And a third combination (and more precisely, a group of combinations) of number and shapes of the zigzags leads to the validity of the above written item 6.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #914 on: September 23, 2021, 11:54:54 AM »
To Jerry Volland and to onepower.
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1) A REALLY very interesting experiment is described in the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDf4ooPdo   .
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2) But what mathematics and what equations stand behind this REAL anti-gravity phenomenon? Are these equations correct or they are simply some kind of a falsy adjustment? Because a spinning mass and a mass at rest should behave in one and same manner. BUT THEY DO NOT BEHAVE IN ONE AND SAME MANNER! May be some new branch of mathematics has to be developed? Or may the surrounding us physical reality has some unknown mysterious properties, which have not been discovered yet?
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3) How to solve this anti-gravity paradox? I would suggest to discuss and clarify the problem in depth and after that to try to design some real device, which is able to fly as a bird, but without using wings.
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Let us work together and let us push forward together the technology progress! Because enthusiam seems to be basic (not to say the only) motive power of any great achievement and technology feat!
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Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
 

 

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