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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 152579 times)

Offline Jerry Volland

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #750 on: June 09, 2021, 07:44:19 PM »
And when you wake up in the morning you realize it was all a bunch of oblong bull shit.  There's no such thing as a Reactionless drive.  You don't even have a drive, just a science busting Action Strip, waiting for something to act against.  But even if it does, NOoo, there won't be any reaction.  Now rewind, step out in some direction, and move forward.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #751 on: June 10, 2021, 01:25:58 PM »
To Jerry Volland.
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Are you illiterate? Are you familiar with English alphabet? Simply answer my two questions.
Question 1: How many meters per second is V2 equal to?
Question 2: How many meters per second is V3 equal to?
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Looking forward to your two answers for the 20th time.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #752 on: June 10, 2021, 05:15:21 PM »
Ignore, Dispute and Ridicule.

Actually, I'm NOT illiterate; I do know the difference between a shock absorber ('SA') and a Centrifugal Reaction Thruster. ('CRT')


What's up with your persecution complex, claiming you asked a question 20 times without one single answer?


Perhaps you should discuss my latest responce?  (The velocity is not constant). You DO want a responce?  Are you going to watch the zig-zag again?  Try to pinpoint the exact moment in the video where it jags?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #752 on: June 10, 2021, 05:15:21 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #753 on: June 10, 2021, 06:20:12 PM »
I figured out the perspective on Wheeler's Absorber Theory.
The universe is expanding at every point.  Therefore, the future is upcoming.  (Through the planet's central gravitational reference point).  So all we have to do is direct our longitudinal movements upwards.  For instance, we can skip up and coast down.  As long as the moves point away from the future, the longitudinal forces could actually pull the future towards the observer.  As a bonus, the past imperfect time cone might be pushed away, even as an imperfect Absorber.
Some of our negative traits do need to be pushed into the past.
edit:  The past is over.  So we need to aim all longitudinal movements as much  upwards as we can.  Maybe use a small jet for velocity and the Centrifugal unit strictly for lift?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #754 on: June 10, 2021, 09:46:26 PM »
If V3 is the straight line plunger's velocity, then


V3=0 meters per second, which is 0 M*sec-1


You have to hold the thingy to push the plunger in.  Thereful, the plunger is vibrating, not moving.  It has a rate and a magnitude, but no 'velocity'.


Maybe you have to hold the SA too?  Remember, V2 does not have a constant velocity.  IF it HAS velocity.




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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #755 on: June 11, 2021, 02:52:26 PM »
To Jerry Volland.
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1) Your last post is full of absurd and senseless claims. For example you wrote: "V2 does not have a constant velocity.  IF it HAS velocity." The last sentence is a striking nonsense. V2 DOES NOT HAVE A VELOCITY! V2 IS VELOCITY ITSELF, YOU IGNORAMUS! What are you talking about? Have you ever read the explanatory texts of our first video? 
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2) At first I thought that you were only an aggressive and ambitious ignoramus. BUT THE SITUATION PROVED TO BE MUCH WORSE -- YOU WROTE THAT V3 = 0 METERS PER SECOND!!!! SHOCKING!!!! YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE YOUR DOCTOR! URGENTLY! I AM SERIOUS! YOU HAVE A TREMENDOUS COGNITIVE PROBLEM! YOU OBVIOUSLY SUFFER FROM SOME KIND OF A SEVERE MENTAL DISORDER! YOU HAVE TO START URGENT TREATMENT IMMEDIATELY! 


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #756 on: June 11, 2021, 05:04:22 PM »
Good Morning George.  What's up with the abusive personality symptoms?  Are you subcociously 'projecting' a need for therapy?

By the way,  do you have any plans to reduce your invention to practice?  A new shock absorber might be useful.  At what point will you decide what the distance of travel is?  How about the time of travel?  Is "1kg" all you know about it?  How much force is applied?  What's the typical torque radius of the  zig-zag  segment?  And  what does a brake next to a shock absorber DO??


Looking forwards to your responce.  (Based on the questions I just asked).

P.S.:  THIS is the forum I'm reading, not YouTube.  Put your specs right here.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2021, 08:38:23 PM by Jerry Volland »

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #756 on: June 11, 2021, 05:04:22 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #757 on: June 11, 2021, 05:08:45 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB4RMIWroMY


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #758 on: June 12, 2021, 10:03:57 AM »
To lancaIV.
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Hi lancaIV,
Nice video! Thank you for it! It is always a pleasure to correspond with you! :)
Regards,

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #758 on: June 12, 2021, 10:03:57 AM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #759 on: June 12, 2021, 10:25:26 AM »
To Jerry Volland.
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1) Ah, this is already another song! :) Your last post is reasonable and smart. Please give me some time to consider it carefully. I will write to you in the nearest future.
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2) By the way, why don't you make a simple wire model of the zigzag device (PART 3 of our first video) and experiment on your kitchen table? Reduce friction as much as possible by using in the beginning an ordinary soap mash for example. Try different shapes and number of zigzags. It will be interesting for you, I am sure. One of our first zigzag-concept-related experiments many years ago was just of that kind  -- wire zigzag (and other forms of) frames, which were sliding over a horizontal kitchen table.       

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #760 on: June 12, 2021, 06:05:16 PM »
And don't forget the coefficient of friction on the side with the straight line plunger.  Of course, this can be adjusted so the frictional force on one side matches the torque resistance on the other, enabling both plungers to travel at the same rate.


Now tell me again how this is supposed to be a Space Drive. Or is your real purpose nothing more than to 'show' a violation of some Law of Thermodynamics?  (Making this a click bait thread).

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #761 on: June 14, 2021, 02:37:08 PM »
To Jerry Volland (and to all other members of this forum, who are interested in our zigzag concept).
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1) Please look again at PART 3 of the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY&t=24s  . Please focus on the “upper” zigzag case.
2) Ma = 1 kg.
3) Mb = 4 kg.
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4) Va’ = pre-zig-zag velocity of the blue component = 1 m/s = const.
5) Vb’ =  pre-zig-zag velocity of the black component = 0 m/s; the black component is motionless.
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6) Va” = during-zig-zag velocity of the blue component = variable and comparatively difficult (but not impossible) to calculate.
7) Vb” = during-zig-zag velocity of the black component = variable and comparatively difficult (but not impossible) to calculate.
8) Vy = during-zig-zag velocity of each couple blue rod-blue ball along the Y-axis = variable and comparatively difficult (but not impossible) to calculate.
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9) Va”’ = post-zig-zag velocity of the blue component = 0.6 m/s = const.
10) Vb”’ = post-zig-zag velocity of the black component = 0.1 m/s = const.
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11) According to the third Newton’s law and to the related law of conservation of linear momentum we can write down the equalities
((Ma) x (Va’)) +  ((Mb) x (Vb’)) =  ((Ma) x (Va”’)) +  ((Mb) x (Vb”’))      <=>
<=>  ((Ma) x (Va’)) + 0 =  ((Ma) x (Va”’)) +  ((Mb) x (Vb”’))       <=>
<=>  (Ma) x (Va’) =  ((Ma) x (Va”’)) +  ((Mb) x (Vb”’))       <=>
<=>  (1 kg) x (1 m/s) = ((1 kg) x (0.6 m/s)) +  ((4 kg) x (0.1 m/s))     <=>
<=>  1 kg.m/s = 1 kg.m/s.
12) In one word, the values of Va”, Vb” and Vy are actually of no interest to us.  Actually only the values of Va’, Va”’ and Vb”’ are of interest to us as these three values determine the validity of the third Newton’s law and the related law of conservation of linear momentum.
13) The mass of each couple blue rod-blue ball is much smaller than the mass of the blue T-shaped component. For example if Ma=1kg, then the mass of each couple blue rod-blue ball must be equal to, let’s say, 0.0001 kg (and even smaller).
14) In our numerous real experiments we strongly reduce friction and the mean values of  Va”’ and Vb”’ are equal to 0.5999992 m/s and to 0.0999997 m/s, respectively, that is, Va”’ = 0.5999992 m/s and  Vb”’ =  0.0999997 m/s. The latter clearly shows that the experimental error (due to friction) is much smaller than 1 % and this experimental error is perfectly acceptable.
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Please ask your questions, if any. We are ready to answer.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #762 on: June 14, 2021, 02:40:21 PM »
The yellow head with the black spectacles in our last post must be replaced by number 8 followed by the bracket symbol ")". The system keeps generating some constant defect related to the writing of number eight.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #763 on: June 14, 2021, 04:00:51 PM »
Click bait.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #764 on: June 15, 2021, 05:38:30 AM »
If you hold a brake housing in one hand and push the plunger with your other hand, you'll have to hold just as hard as you push.  Any heat from friction is caused by pushing from BOTH directions.  And the same is true of torque resistance.


You can't move a space ship by pushing against a brake.  Or a shock absorber.

 

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