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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 152577 times)

Offline nix85

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #465 on: March 29, 2021, 05:38:56 PM »
You build scrap, i build sophisticated stuff.

I've seen your "levitation" video. Better tie it down so it doesn't fly away.

Basic principle always stands.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #466 on: March 29, 2021, 05:46:30 PM »
You haven't seen my Levitation video - I've never uploaded it.


I did have a "tip lift" video showing the 'basic principle' behind Tesla's Flying Stove.  It's not there now, for some reason.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #467 on: March 29, 2021, 05:50:25 PM »
Oh it's "secret", i see :)

Understand the basic principle, 4th law of motion.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #467 on: March 29, 2021, 05:50:25 PM »
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Offline Jerry Volland

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #468 on: March 29, 2021, 06:14:44 PM »
Oh it's "secret", i see :)

Understand the basic principle, 4th law of motion.


It's worse than that; I have people who keep telling me they're going to kill me if I do.


Now YOU discuss why the Principle of Conservation of Momentum FORCES a machine to move if the radius is shortened.


Or are you just a troll, delighting in misdirecting the conversation away from one thing after another?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #469 on: March 29, 2021, 06:28:28 PM »

It's worse than that; I have people who keep telling me they're going to kill me if I do.

Sure, sure. "They" don't let you. Meanwhile i have broken down the whole inertial business to it's basic components so a monkey could understand and build a basic device.

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Now YOU discuss why the Principle of Conservation of Momentum FORCES a machine to move if the radius is shortened.

Radius does not have to be shortened at all. See what happens when you don't understand the basic principle, you are confused and confuse others, so let me repeat it..

ANY UNBALANCED MASS
OSCILLATING WITHIN 180° OR LESS
OR SPINNING FULL CIRCLE WITH VARYING SPEED
CONVERTS CENTRIFUGAL FORCE
INTO LINEAR ACCELERATION
OF THE WHOLE SYSTEM

No changing of radius.

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Or are you just a troll, delighting in misdirecting the conversation away from one thing after another?

That is exactly what you are doing, asking ridiculous questions, distracting from the subject.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Offline Jerry Volland

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #470 on: March 29, 2021, 09:28:58 PM »
This isn't even your thread.  Yet you jumped in spouting gibberish and claiming that EVERY working system is based on YOUR stated principle, with everything else being irrelevant.  I'm trying to discuss issues related to the opening post, on the first page.  As well as general aspects of mechanical force propulsion.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #471 on: March 29, 2021, 11:04:55 PM »
@nix85:
That's an interesting diagram you posted, of a torus having a smaller diameter on one side.  I mean, it's interesting that you think that a faster flow, with less mass will produce more centrifuge force (not a miss spelling) than appears on the slower side having much more mass.  And your drawing is SO very unsofisticated.  The bottom part contains NONE of the intricate detail of the Mercury Drive.  (Presented as "The Modern Day Workhorse of Inertial Propulsion").


And haven't you heard that the so-called "Fourth Law of Motion" (surge) is in direct opposition to the Second Law, which holds that it takes just as much energy to accelerate something quickly as to slowly accelerate to the same velocity?  Introducing this factor did not suddenly make the Dean Drive start working.  So why even mention it?  Distraction?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #472 on: March 29, 2021, 11:13:24 PM »
This isn't even your thread.  Yet you jumped in spouting gibberish and claiming that EVERY working system is based on YOUR stated principle, with everything else being irrelevant.  I'm trying to discuss issues related to the opening post, on the first page.  As well as general aspects of mechanical force propulsion.

Never said it's my thread. I'm sure it sounds like gibberish to you cause you don't get it. In fact you are the only one spouting gibberish. It's not my principle i just defined it so anyone can understand. And i am not stopping you from trying to discuss anything.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #473 on: March 29, 2021, 11:21:50 PM »
@nix85:
That's an interesting diagram you posted, of a torus having a smaller diameter on one side.  I mean, it's interesting that you think that a faster flow, with less mass will produce more centrifuge force (not a miss spelling) than appears on the slower side having much more mass.  And your drawing is SO very unsofisticated.  The bottom part contains NONE of the intricate detail of the Mercury Drive.  (Presented as "The Modern Day Workhorse of Inertial Propulsion").

I don't think lesser volume at greater speed produces more force proportionally to ratio of  speed, it is a simple fact cause cent. force is velocity squared, basic math.

Mercury Drive? What does that have to do with anything here, this is water drive.

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And haven't you heard that the so-called "Fourth Law of Motion" (surge) is in direct opposition to the Second Law, which holds that it takes just as much energy to accelerate something quickly as to slowly accelerate to the same velocity?  Introducing this factor did not suddenly make the Dean Drive start working.  So why even mention it?  Distraction?

Everyone knows this principle "violates" conservation of momentum and thus conservation of energy (not really in the wider scope of things).

So this principle is OU, it is an example of reactive power doing real work.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #473 on: March 29, 2021, 11:21:50 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #474 on: March 29, 2021, 11:55:06 PM »
The water drive illustrates the construction of the more powerful Mercury system.  With water, a garden hose goes around the top half of a car tire, then spirals around the bottom half.  There's enough room between the spirals for the hose to wrap 4 or 5 times.  Then hang it on a rope from a tree, with the long wraps pointing to the side, and turn the hose on.  Force from the spirals cancel from side to side, but nothing offsets the force on the long wrapped side.  There is no difference in velocity anywhere.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #475 on: March 30, 2021, 12:13:53 AM »
Mercury is 13 times denser than water, you should understand energy to propel it is proportionally larger, not to mention Mercury is toxic and totally out of question for system like this.

As for the rest, you are wrong. Like said before due to Venturi Effect, water speeds up in narrower parts and since cent. force is mass velocity squared over radius, force is proportionally larger in narrower part.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #476 on: March 30, 2021, 01:41:00 AM »
HaHa. nix and his overblown ego getting spanked again! Suckit nix, you fukn lame!

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #477 on: March 30, 2021, 01:13:28 PM »
LOL this guy is so lame and delusional..

So you wanna suck me, hmm, i'll pass on that.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #478 on: March 30, 2021, 01:55:50 PM »
This device produces low force but i like the atmosphere of these videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjV5PaqDpR4

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #479 on: March 30, 2021, 03:13:04 PM »
Video on Thornson

https://youtu.be/5JEFME-V_zw?t=2249

I have no doubt water inertial system is the best.

 

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