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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 120740 times)

Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #360 on: February 05, 2021, 03:24:37 PM »
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IT WORKS!
What will be the next step? Shall we do a bigger device, let's say, with the sizes of a small car? But as if it will not be very cheap, I guess. (At least the first prototype.)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #361 on: February 05, 2021, 07:38:00 PM »
Yea small car and 2 professional athletes should be enough to power the car, maybe even levitate it.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #362 on: February 06, 2021, 01:31:11 PM »
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We (our team) are ready to help, if you need some assistance for doing the device.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #362 on: February 06, 2021, 01:31:11 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #363 on: February 06, 2021, 03:40:14 PM »
We just need to make sure our athletes are well fed while they swing their swords on our way to the Moon.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #364 on: February 06, 2021, 06:27:22 PM »
We just need to make sure our athletes are well fed while they swing their swords on our way to the Moon.

Usually, three shredded wheat is an impossible hill to climb, but, in this case, might be insufficent.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #364 on: February 06, 2021, 06:27:22 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #365 on: February 07, 2021, 09:34:32 PM »
Correction #351 number :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Constantinescu#/media/File:Constantinesco_Car.jpg
                                  5 hp ,but

https://simanaitissays.com/2018/04/01/george-constantinescu-scientist-engineer-inventor-automaker-part-2/
like by the french 2CV,fiscal horsepower ,not physical-technical :

The Constantinesco automobile, manufactured in France 1926–1928,......
The Constantinesco automobile engine was a two-stroke design with two vertical cylinders between which nestled the torque converter. This water-cooled engine displaced a mere 494 cc and produced 5 taxable hp.

small two cylinder engine comparison
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19391/lot/120/1925 BMW 494cc R32Friz's masterwork 486cc flat-twin gave 8.5 horsepower, good for a top speed of about 60 mph, plenty for the roads of the day.

the given 170 Nm torque ic engine to convert in KW electric  is RPM dependent = velocity :

https://x-engineer.org/automotive-engineering/internal-combustion-engines/performance/power-vs-torque/
http://x-engineer.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Tightening-torque-at-wheel-bolt-300x270.jpg?c4395d&c4395d


https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/electrical-motors-hp-torque-rpm-d_1503.html

                         "full torque"

for IC engines :The full load engine torque curve Te [Nm] is characterized by four points:
T0 – engine torque at minimum engine speed
 Tmax – maximum engine torque (peak torque or rated torque)
 TP – engine torque at maximum engine power
 TM – engine torque at maximum engine speed


for electric motor "full torque" :

3450 RPM +- 170 Nm   62 KW
2000 RPM +- 170 Nm   35 KW

1750 RPM +- 170 Nm   32 KW

1000 RPM +- 170 Nm   18 KW

  500 RPM +- 170 Nm   10 KW



next :

torque definition :
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is-the-torque-output-of-the-motor-unique-for-an-electric-motor-with-a-specific-power-rating
maximum torque 

rated torque


When "inventors" plays with numbers,without showing these claims in real world application,like here :
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE4031920A1/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE10011074A1/en
A car with an electric motor (1500 watts, 4000 rpm)

 using a conventional battery-set,instead :
  "..... which gets its energy from the extra built in the engine compartment Power generator (generator with 6000 watts of power) takes and moves. .....

This ensures that a car with a low overall weight can drive up to 120 km / h
( without refueling and consumption is zero. )

Average 40 Km/h and 3000 Wh= 3 KWh  electric power consume ,okay ! Without extra appliances as load,heater et cetera !Assuming 600 Kg total weight !

Compared :
https://www.researchgate.net/post/How_much_torque_is_required_to_move_a_300_kg_vehicle
Sulaymon Eshkabilov North Dakota State University
The Electric car making 40 kmph with E-motor of 1200 W  .....

and

Martin SchulzInfineon Technologies
Dear Ambar,Here is a result of an experiment  conducted just for you:
I tried to move my personal electric vehicle at 40km/h, observing what power is needed to do so.Outcome: In even terrain the car consumes more than 3kW to maintain 40km/h.Accounting that the weight is 1200kg and power to overcome friction is four times that of a 300kg vehicle, about 1.2kW are needed simply to overcome friction.This also means, about 2kW are needed to overcome air drag.The car is Volkswagen Golf III and in case your vehicle has to achieve 40km/h with only 1200W, you would have to get down to less than half the A*cp-value.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #366 on: February 08, 2021, 02:26:59 PM »
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Thanks a lot for your very, very interesting post! Please give me some time to consider it carefully.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #366 on: February 08, 2021, 02:26:59 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #367 on: February 09, 2021, 02:55:44 PM »
To lancaIV.
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Your last post is very, very interesting! Keep reading.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #368 on: February 10, 2021, 01:50:28 PM »
Our zigzag concept simulation/animation is still under construction. Please be patient. It is not easy to make everything in a proper and precise manner. 

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #368 on: February 10, 2021, 01:50:28 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #369 on: February 10, 2021, 04:17:25 PM »
Our zigzag concept simulation/animation is under construction.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #370 on: February 11, 2021, 02:26:40 PM »
Hi there,
Any new "crazy" mechanical idea except our OU zigzag concept? :)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #370 on: February 11, 2021, 02:26:40 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #371 on: February 12, 2021, 02:42:20 PM »
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The Bessler wheel concept seems to be very interesting. But it has a great variety of modifications. Which is the simplest modification and where to find it? Please give some link, if possible.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #372 on: February 13, 2021, 01:43:39 PM »
Please say a few words about the Kapanadze generator. Is there any company(or person), that sells working devices of this type?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #373 on: February 15, 2021, 03:52:21 PM »
Is there any company(or person), that sells a working Kapanadze generator?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #374 on: February 18, 2021, 02:58:31 PM »
Our zigzag concept simulation/animation is still under construction. But it will published here in this forum in the nearest future.

 

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